So much for civility.

This word is defined as including but not limited to; encourager, nurturer, enabler, helper, provider, protector, supporter, complementor – complete-or, sustainer, succourer, aid, nourisher, husbandman (as in one who tends to and cares for livestock and vines and orchards – to provide for their ability to thrive), and of “having eachother’s back”, meeting the needs, and of sharing the load of life’s burdens joined in working for a common goal.

Thanks for the quote Ombre Rose. It is illustrative. As I read the quote I thought it described the commitment that some, not all, of my gay friends have made to one another. Honestly, I can’t find an aspect of that quote that they fail to meet. I’ll save the quote since my wife and I should often refer to it to make sure that our marriage stays tuned-up.

Also, I agree with you on the matter of fertility.

and still demand the right to their “privacy”

Some would say that “privacy” is an unalienable right endowed by your Creator and not something that you have to ask the government for.

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I know, and frankly, that knowledge helps me keep a lot more civil tongue in my mouth – believe it or not.

Actually, I have lost all patience with cretans who have a mountain of destruction spewed across their community in their wake and still demand the right to their “privacy”, and a right to massive social engineering without the support of even a MINIMAL majority of Americans for those changes. And don’t know why everyone is so angry with them.

So far, however, they are punishing themselves a great deal more than I would be able to do, so I have no vested interest at this point in coming after them.

Did you ever see the old Vincent Price horror movie, “The Masque of the Red Death”?

It isn’t the cornerstone of marriage – it is just the manifestation of the health of the relationship.

When God gave Eve to Adam, He said, here is a helpmeet (not “helpmate”).
This word is defined as including but not limited to; encourager, nurturer, enabler, helper, provider, protector, supporter, complementor – complete-or, sustainer, succourer, aid, nourisher, husbandman (as in one who tends to and cares for livestock and vines and orchards – to provide for their ability to thrive), and of “having eachother’s back”, meeting the needs, and of sharing the load of life’s burdens joined in working for a common goal.

Unfortunately, this is something the homosexual relationship cannot offer to the “partner”. They constitute the greatest threat to health, life, and purpose of life, and by participating in such a relationship, the implied demand of the one is that the other expend their life resources, literally their physical health and wellbeing upon the one’s selfish pleasure.
The vow to do the other person good all the days of their lives is broken by the consumation of the relationship.

We all realize that when 3 yr olds dress up and have a pretend tea party with their dollies, they are “playing house”.

I don’t say this to say their feelings aren’t real, or powerful, or deep – I certainly don’t say it to make light of what they go through – but they are misdirected, and they are deadly, and they are in fact just as dangerous as a ship on a very very long voyage having the wrong navigational information, and having steering mechanisms that are fatally flawed.
It just isn’t going to arrive where it thought it was going.
Even though all the seemingly same effort is genuinely being expended, it isn’t doing what it thought it was. Or meant to do.

Meanwhile, the busy-ness of focusing on the distraction and the distortion has kept the individuals from their design function, and their true purpose, and best use – most thrilling fulfillment, the solution of their life, and what they were designed to be the solution for.

Like a couple of things I have seen, one, people using rubber tires as construction material for houses, and another man used hundreds of old TVs as building blocks for a wall. Well, in those cases, the tires and TVs were not fit for their design function, anyway, but still, their best use was not as construction material or garden walls.

Maybe a better example would be that of a primitive African tribe using a water pump in the middle of a drought for a tribal god, instead of a water pump, while all the people are starving to death for lack of water.

And no, I don’t single out homosexuality. This just is the topic of this thread.

There just isn’t any reason to look at this earth and think endorphin-stroking addictions are the purpose and meaning of Life.

Democrats would be cheering Craig for ’standing his ground’. ( Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, William Jefferson, et al )

William Jefferson got his committee chairmanship taken away which is no small punishment.

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Having a chairmanship taken from him is NOT “PUNISHMENT”.

JAIL TIME is punishment.
Losing his job is NATURAL AND JUST CONSEQUENCES.

When Liberals buffer Dims from ANTURAL consequences of their own feloneous and miscreant conduct, other consequences will kick in. Consequences no human force can buffer, or shield one from.

The Law of Harvest will NOT be thwarted.

http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2007/10/2007-10-04_order_denying_motion.pdf

The judge’s opinion thoroughly covered all the issues.

Your chances on appeal are zero.

To repeat the advice from Darksean:

Don’t let the stall door hit you on the way out.

Darksean on October 4, 2007 at 3:13 PM

Ar any rate, I don’t really worry about alienating those into homosexuality just as I don’t worry about alienating the herion-using community.

Your analogy breaks down when you take into account that you are alienating homosexuals as well as many of their friends and families. Few consider chronic heroin users to be people of good character, but many Americans have worked with homosexuals who make very substantial contributions to the country and to the economy.

My earlier point about Islamic terrorism and the size of government was alluding to the fact that pushing more voters away from the Republican party can put Hillary in the White House. Maybe 3% seems like a small number but it decides a lot of electoral votes.

pressto said:
This is an issue for the People of Idaho to decide.

I agree. Let him fade into increasing irrelevance.

dedalus said:
Because you needlessly alienate a percentage of the population for no tangible benefit to the rest of us.

I strongly doubt the 3 percent of the population who choose the homosexual lifestyle much care about what I think. Truth be told, they would be more correct to beworried about such public spectacles as the Folsom Sex “fair” and “pride parades” as being “alienating”.

Ar any rate, I don’t really worry about alienating those into homosexuality just as I don’t worry about alienating the herion-using community. If people need my approval they likely shouldn’t be doing whatever they’re doing.