George W. Bush: Crusader for Mexican death row murderers and international law meddlers
I’ve followed these cases for some time. Here’s the latest on the legal wrangling.
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I had just read another article on Bush trying not to have a gang raper and murderer killed by the state of Texas….I immediately thought of you and I immediately thought who in the hell is this President I voted for.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299917,00.html
I believe that Bush is either evil incarnated OR he’s lost his mind.
Take your pick.
BTW, Michelle, I sent you an interesting link to read and maybe post.
If it were one or both of the twins how high would the rope be hanging? No kidding jaded, who is this guy? sheesh.
well just maybe there’s a valid reason so many have resigned.
Gayle,
I think they have All lost their minds.
http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5194658.html
Jorge has lost whats left of his mind
I think Washington and the world (and Mexico) should stay out of Texas business. I was here when all that went down and what those two families have gone through because of those useless thugs is a tragedy. If Mexico doesn’t want their criminals executed they need to keep them in their own country and let them kill their own innocent teenage girls.
Not only has the “National” government voided “states’ rights” under the Constitution, now, it seems, foreign interests wants to void them as well…with the blessing of the judiciary and the executive departments. So much for the 10th amendment….
As a Texan, I once again wonder what happened to the man we helped send to Washington. He is not the governor we were proud to have and support. The Beltway cocktail good people drink when they arrive in DC has an incredible power to alter their minds.
Let’s just be honest here…..haha.
We really cannot hold the illegals fully responsible, now can we?
Most cannot read English.
I hold those Elected Officials fully accountable for all the lawsuits that are getting ready to fly like a Halloween bat outta hell!
The more stuff like this comes to light the more and more demoralized I become. This has really been a bad news weekend. I really do admire the President for sticking to his guns on the war, but I have absolutely no faith in him in taking care of domestic matters beyond the economy. By the way if the economy is so great and we need to import workers why is anyone still on welfare? They should all be employed and then we can import some more labor with work visas. He has sold this country out for cheap labor in collusion with many in Congress allowing the open invasion of our borders, keeping wages depressed while allowing these invaders to commit the crimes most Americans won’t do. Now he wants to give them a free pass on crimes that any American should get the death penalty for committing. As Dennis Miller has said, “Some time you have to thin the herd.”
There are two issues that are particularly striking and appalling about Bush’s position:
1. Two border patrol agents who were by all measures railroaded by the government still sit in jail with nary a peep out of the White House;
2. What Bush is arguing for is that illegals have ADDITIONAL rights. In our justice system, if an issue is not raised at trial it cannot be raised at a later date. Moreover, in addition to having all the rights of a US citizen under our Constitution, the White House is now taking a position that illegals have all those rights plus rights not available to US citizens. That means illegals are treated better than US citizens.
It is only a matter of time until Bush replaces the Marine Corps Band with a Mariachi Band for his public appearances.
I read about this ongoing illegal alien lack of justice and wonder to myself if this was one of the two Bush Daughters who were raped and murdered..
what would el presidente Bush ’s position be then?
Could he be suffering from post-traumatic issues? Clearly, the Mexican government is so stinking infused with corruption it can’t see straight from the president on down, permeating every city and town throughout their hellish geographic bounds. The government, I believe, encourages their lowest of low to enter the US because it accomplished two things: gets rid of the peons and infuses their own 3rd world economy with US dollars.
Michelle, here is a article by Mark Sherman that legal dummies such as myself might find helpful. Ron White is real proud of Texas justice, he said if you kill us we will killl you.
01-20-09 can’t come soon enough.
This is yet another example of the shameless pandering to Mexico that has been exhibited by this president. Just how in the hell does the execution of a useless thug like Medellin threaten U.S. interests abroad? When is Bush going to realize that his actions are a slap to the faces of Texans and Americans alike?
ctmom, as long as Hitlery Rotten is not the president.
Once again the conservatives were duped by the GOP.
The US adoption of the international court of law will be our final downfall…
He has definately lost his mind.I personally see no reason for the U.S.,or any other sovereign nation,to follow the rulings of any International Court.Soveriegnty means just that -NO HIGHER AUTHORITY.If the SOVEREIGN STATE OF TEXAS deems this slug worthy of the death penalty,there is NO HIGHER AUTHORITY to tell Texas not to do so.Bush apparently has fallen under the Clintonista idea that the world needs an all-encompassing single government to control all aspects of life on Earth.Trgically,it seems that is where we are headed,and the only people in position to take the reins of the “one world gov”t.”are Hildebeast and Slick Willy.Many pundits are saying that she is a shoe-in for Pres.(because the Repulicans can’t seem to be able to get their heads out of their arses),and he has often stated his desire to be U.N.General Secretary.With Willy’s pandering to the U.N. during his Presidency,he is sure to secure that position.
The legal question seems to boil down to whether the President has the power to force a state court to comply with U.S treaty obligations. It should be an interesting look by the Supreme Court into Article II of the Constitution and the question of presidential powers.
My guess is Bush will win on this one.
re: #1 Jaded
Did you read Michelle’s links? Same story as your link.
President Bush has always been weak on immigration favoring cheap labor instead of security. He is wrong on this issue and I have told him so in my latest letter.
Like Boomer, I support him in our war on terror and the economy but this crazy. President Bush; listen to the American peoople on this issue.
Texas need to ignore this bumbling, confused and foolish President and execute this criminal! President Bush seems to stand up for the most off the wall and non-applicable issues. May I remind everyone of Harriet Myers?
It is time for the states to stand up for what they believe and get the Federal Government out of day to day operations. Especially on a case like this. And we need to send our emails and letters to the White House and tell this President what We The People want.
What is that odd feeling in my stomach? Why, why, I feel a bout of Bush Derangement Syndrome coming on! It always seems to occur whenever El Presidente starts talking about immigration policy. Fancy that!
Oops!
Sorry, Jaded, I jumped the gun on you.
Your link was more recent.
That giant sucking sound you hear is that of the American tax payers’ money paying for legal expenses for illegals even when foreign governments intervene in, and try to overturn our judical system. Major sucking…. and sucking from the Americans to give preferential treatment to illegal alien murderers. Utterly ridiculous
Heck, you steal a loaf of bread and you’re thrown in the slammer if you’re a citizen.
Illegals can do anything and everything, including murder/rape.
Just what country IS THIS?????
This is exactly the sort of issue that ought to be front and center during debates.
President Bush’s speed dial:
1 - Felipe Calderon
2 - Vincente Fox
3 - Cour internationale de Justice
4 - European Union
5 - Moscow Hot Line
6 - US Congress
My apologies in advance for the length of this comment.
Is is astounding what passes for legal counsel in the White House these days, or in the Congress for that matter.
The argument made with regard to forcing states to submit to the rulings of the International Court is that Article VI of the Constitution mandates that treaties are the supreme law of the land. That is not quite what Article VI says:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
First and foremost, the Constitution is the Supreme law of the land. Any laws enacted at the federal level made pursuant to the Constitution also become the supreme law of the land. Finally, treaties, only if made under the authority granted to the federal government and made in accordance with the laws of the United States which MUST be consistent with the Constitution, also become the supreme law of the land.
Thus, any treaty made must be in accord with the Constitution and must not abrogate its protections, limitations, or separation of powers.
The Tenth Amendment provides that any power not granted to the federal government under the constitution is the power of the individual states. The criminal justice system, and the ability of a state to try defendants for crimes in accordance with the protections afforded by the Constitution clearly is, and has always been, a state matter.
To force a state to submit to the ruling of an international tribunal not only flies in the face of the Tenth Amendment, it makes a mockery out of the separation of powers and effectively neuters both state and federal sovereignty with respect to matters reserved for the judiciary.
Imagine the Senate ratifying a treaty that forces the President to submit to the authority of the UN Security Council. Or a treaty that requires the United States to follow all UN mandates passed by a majority of UN member states. Congress would never submit to such a plan, and the President would surely seek to overturn any such mandate that eviscerated Executive powers.
But that is exactly what is happening to both the federal and state judicial powers with the push to force submission to the rulings of the International Court. And in my view is unconstitutional. It sacrifices the sovereignty of both the United States and the states, it violates the separation of powers clause by imposing foreign limitations and restrictions on the power of the judiciary, and it flies in the face of the Tenth Amendment.
This is not as complex an issue as some would have you believe. It is very simple, really. Neither the Legislative, nor the Executive, nor the Juducial branches of the federal government can do anything that is not consistent with the Constitution. Period.
gayle#28—Its the United States of the United Nations.
Oops,my bad.Can’t use the word”states”,because states are defined as soveriegn.
Do they not teach the constitution in law school? Or more to the point, have the law books rewritten the constitution the same way school history books have rewritten history?
Opening Law books;
Blank pages.
Just when you think that maybe the Republicans stupidity might be at an end, here comes another stupid incident, scandal or statement. What the hell are we witnessing, mass suicide?
I find this pretty ironic, considering the Mexican Army, and/or police, reportedly shoot and kill aliens crossing their southern borders. Maybe this is the reason they don’t find the death penaly necessary?
Should read “penalty”. Sorry.
After 30 years I have left the Republican party. What else can I say. They no longer represent me. At this point I would actually vote for impeachment for Bush.
Your analysis is absolutely correct however our leaders have, and are passing laws on a daily basis that are unconstitutional.
For example, where is the “Right” to Health Care enumerated in the Constitution or the Department of Education or the numerous gun control laws when taken to the Supreme Court, are stricken down as being unconstitutional.
A perfect example is Parker v. District of Columbia, the 1976 DC gun ban law that was taken to the US Court of Appeals on the grounds that it was unconstitutional and violated the 2nd Amendment.
For once, we had a judge, Judge Laurence H. Silberman that had read the Constitution and his ruling was based soley on the rule of law enumerated in the second Amendment. Here are some highlights of the decision by Judge Silberman:
“The Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.”
“The individual right facilitated militia service by ensuring that citizens would not be barred from keeping the arms they would need when called forth for militia duty.”
“Despite the importance of the Second Amendment’s civic purpose, however, the activities it protects are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual’s enjoyment of the right contingent upon his or her continued or intermittent enrollment in the militia.”
“With ‘a free State,’ we understand the framers to have been referring to republican government generally.”
“The bar on carrying a pistol within the home [and the requirement to keep it disassembled] amounts to a complete prohibition on the lawful use of handguns for self-defense. As such, we hold it unconstitutional.”
It took a private citizen, Shelly Parker with the financial resources to challenge an unconstitutional law that was on the books for over 30 years. Anyone that can read should have known the original 1976 Gun Ban law was in violation of the 2nd Amendment but they passed it anyways.
I could go on and on about the reams of laws that have been legislated in direct violation of our Constitution. The rather disturbing point is that our elected leaders think that they can ignore the Constitution with Impunity because the constitution is an impediment to changing the USA into just another territory that will be ruled by unelected bearucrats in the New World Order.
George W. Bush is demonstrating on a daily basis he has no respect for our Constitutional Republic and will use his office to allow foreign Courts to force its will on the individual States. He took an oath of office to defend and protect the Constitution.
As Jim M points out, he has violated his oath of office by disregarding the plain language of our founding document and this is tantamount to treason IMHO
Texas should do the following:
1) Call Mexican and International media, and tell them to set up cameras on the Mexican side of the border.
2) Destroy all roads leading to and from Mexico, and mine everything at least 1/2 mile from the border all the way to Mexico.
3) Line those 50 or so prisoners up, chained together, in view of that press corp.
4) Open fire
5) Send the bill for the entire affair, including trials, jail expenses, and burial expenses, to Vincente Fox.
6) If Vincente Fox ever steps foot in America again, meet him with Texas Rangers to arrest him for debts unpaid.
This may then remind President Bush and the Hague what they can do with their International rulings. At least until we Americans get the exact rights in Mexico that Mexicans claim when they come over here.
Now has come the time to re-instate the lessons Mexico has obviously forgotten from 1847.
I like your analysis, JimM; however, don’t forget “Marbury vs Madison”. The Court insisted that it was the “supreme law of the land” too, and any attempt to go around their decisions were unconstitutional in itself. Since the “Brown” case, the Court has legislated from the bench, and disregarded the Constitution. In effect, we have been “ruled” by 9 unelected officials who, basically, can do what they want. The 10th amendment has been thrown out the window since 1810 (Fletcher vs Peck) and been abused since. The 14th amendment (not a true amendment since it was never sent to the States, or ratified by the States) has been consistently abused. The Due Process clause which, literally, as the Court understands it, allows it to decide anything from gun control to abortion.
He’s not the President we voted for. We got suckered.
I would vote to impeach Bush. And why not? Why should liberals have all the fun? I’ve long since taken all that I can from him, the Republican Party, and their no-mexican left behind policies. The mantra is always the same: if we get just a little bit of the [fill in the blank] vote, we’ll be the majority party forever. No, no you won’t. You have lost your base and you have nothing. Read and weep indeed. The entire Republican platform is: “At least we’re not as bad as Hillary.” Big deal. My dog is not as bad as Hillary but I am not going to put her in power over my life.
As Thomas Sowell has put it: Democrats go to Washington to rule; Republicans go to Washington to make deals with Democrats. Maybe conservatives should all vote Democrat and subvert that party from within.
Well, if you impeach Bush, that puts Cheney in the White House.
The only reason for Bush to take this position is to cede judicial power to courts outside the USA which continues the creation of “We are the one World” government. Our Supreme Court already liberally (pun intended) refers to international decisions inorder to make their decisions. God forbid they would actually rely on the US Constitution for judicial decision making. After all, it is so much more fun just to make things up as you go along and not be restrained by the ideas that actually made America a great nation.
The “We are the one Worlders” have a basic problem after they get through with their self love fest. Just exactly what does a one world government look like and how do we prevent it from decaying into anarchy or dictatorship. Humanity is an imperfect species and one of the best reasons for having a lot of different types of government is to find out which ones work best for the time being.
Without “judicial review” who would determine whether Congress was passing laws that were unconstitutional? Should we trust Congress to monitor itself?
Like a number of you I support the President on the economy and WOT but sometimes I wonder if he has lost his mind. I saw something last night on Gavin’s ex-wife’s show on Fox about the Mexican government trying to get the kid of some illegal alien sex offender who is getting ready to be deported sent to Mexico with him. He’s in foster care and the foster parents have been trying to adopt him. The mother who is American and a meth addict gave up her rights but the sex offender who raped a 6 y/o girl will not and now Grandma wants the kid in Mexico with the soon to be deported son. If they send this poor child, God knows what will happen to him. But W probably will do just that. As a parent who adopted out of foster care, I can tell you nothing is more stressful then wondering if the state will do the wrong thing and put the kids back with parents like this.
Anywho, I just don’t get W on this issue.
I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that judicial review is an indispensable part of our federal government. What is striking in looking at Bush’s position is that judicial review would be ceded to an international rather than a federal or state authority pursuant to a treaty. Treaties are an important part of our existence as a nation, but they must be consistent with the provisions of the US Constitution.
It is unfortunate that few of our federally elected representatives are familiar with the Constitution. More unfortunate is that many of them seem to believe the Constitution is an al la carte menu that they may pick and choose from. Sorry, but that is not the way it works.
On October 7th, 2007 at 10:34 am, Boomer said:
I really do admire the President for sticking to his guns on the war..
The war was fought to save his Saudi friends at tax-payer’s cost and American lives. As you can see, the war is not going anywhere. Not that the was was not the right thing to do. It was, to remove Saddam. That wast was accomplished in 2004. Since the reason to invade iraq were not the right ones, thanks tot the president/commander-in-chief, USA finds itself in a no-win war.
Wake up folks. George Bush has not lost his mind. Americans want to think that the President is at his core interested in the well-being of the USA. It’s time to erase that notion. GW does not want anything to do with the USA. He is motivated by hidden forces which mandate a devastated, weak, and poor America. HE HAS NOT LOST HIS MIND! Don’t read his lips: read his actions. He wants us to be destroyed. He and the wealthy political class don’t care because they will always be insulated from the disaster.
The working folks and the poor are the ones who are suffering the most from the dissolution of our country. Don’t worry, because the Democrats are on the same page. Anything that will destroy the good things we have is what our government will enact.
Thanks for the post Jim. I’m not too familiar with this area. It looks to me, based on some quick reading, as though the Supreme Court has never ruled a treaty signed by the President as unconstitutional. If that is the case then it seems likely that this Supreme Court would rely on Article 6 and not the 10th Amendment. Of course, I could be wrong.
With “judicial review” who determines whether the Supreme Court is writing laws which are unconstitutional? Should we trust the Court to monitor itself?
We the people can monitor Congress and elect a different one if we like. We have close to zero control over the Supreme Court.
I beg to differ. This is a power the court granted itself. Would you be as relaxed if one or both of the other branches of government assigned themselves sweeping powers not listed in the Constitution?
As such the other two branches of goverment could ignore the court if they chose to, though they haven’t. That is the check on the Court.
Absolutely appalling. The worst mistake the Republican party ever made was to make this man their nominee in 2000. He has been disappointing in so many different ways that I have lost count. Dubya is the worst catastrophe to ever visit the modern conservative cause.
The fact that Bush is perfectly willing to execute Americans, but not Mexicans who do even more horrific crimes says it all. He is not our President.
Finally, a real reason to impeach.
On October 7th, 2007 at 11:26 pm, Reggie1971 said:
Absolutely appalling. The worst mistake the Republican party ever made was to make this man their nominee in 2000.
Bush is a Bush. A Repiblican when suits; a Democrat at other times. His motivations are wealth and votes, no matter how they come.
I want to see if he has the same reaction if such an incident had happened to Jena Bush.
Amen. Jorge is for business cronyism and making the U.S. a non-sovereign open borders commercial zone. Sadly most of the rest of Washington is as self-serving as any non-democratic government, and the sheeple a disappointment. We’ve been running on momentum from the beginning of the republic, but we are now coasting to a stop.
George Bush is running for President of Mexico after his term is finished. With all the pandering he’s been doing it’ll be a landslide. Mission Accomplished!
Now, as a fellow Texan, I have to say, that is a mighty fine idea!
And they can take that World court and FLUSH IT.
I thought Bush backed them off a good ways wne he first took office! I don’t know what goes there, but I heard one intercessor say she saw him as if pressed to the table top as if by a very huge vice press, with a blindfold and with a horrible racket clacking away in his ears. She said God showed her that all that was happening to him, because Christians in America were not praying for him as we ought to be.
I cannot excuse this conduct, but neither can I say that even having heard this intercessor personally, that I pray for him, very much, in spite of knowing how much anyone in Washington DC needs it.
I say this to those who oppose the Death Penalty and shriek about Texas using it. We use it maybe 10-11 times a year, rarely as much as 20-something times.
But the murders are in the thousands, and we are only slapping their hands, averaging about 2 years jail time, and often that includes TIME SERVED waiting for trial. Now, in Texas, if they don’t get you to trial in two years, they dismiss the charges for lack of timely trials, even if the statues of limitations are much longer.
THAT isn’t Justice.
And there is no HEALING without Justice. In fact, the Bible says a lack of Justice is the cause of a root of bitterness rising up.
We’ve made it known that we want nothing to do with shamnesty, tuition benefits for illegal immigrants, etc., to no avail. Our voice is simply not being heard.
We work ourselves into a frenzy to make sure that laws benefitting illegals are shot down only to have another one rammed down our throats. Dejected doesn’t even begin to describe my feelings. Take America back…I’m sorry but beginning to not even recognize her anymore.
Or at the very least take them back and reimburse the local jurisdiction for legal fees, room and board for housing theese scum and restitution for the families of the victims.
If they are going to dictate to us how to treat their citizens, they need to pay for it.
The only reason Bush is still President?
John Kerry.
This has got to be the craziest idea I have ever seen, but I’m not surprised at anything this women does. I wonder how many “intellgent” senators will vote yes for this resolution? I’ld like to exchange Bush for the Border Agents who are in prison.
Actually there is an interesting constitutional twist here. According to the 14th Amendment, All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. Ergo, if criminal illegal aliens are not subject to the full extent of our laws and are accorded some diplomatic special treatment, then their offspring born here are not legal citizens. You gotta wonder if Bush realizes he is advocating stripping millions of people of their citizenship rights.