Comments on: Calif. bans smoking in cars with kids…S-CHIP expansionists’ heads explode http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: twall http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-149035 twall Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:13:26 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-149035 I think the exception is Medical marijuana I think the exception is Medical marijuana

]]> By: Dasoku http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-145586 Dasoku Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:03:24 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-145586 <blockquote>On October 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pm, dakine said: C’mon…I’m still waiting to hear from all the “would-be nanny state hating libertarian wannabes” out there who don’t want the government to intrude on your personal liberty. What is your position on decriminalizing drug use?</blockquote> Fine with me. And while were at it all "free" medical and intervention services need to be privitized so the cost of caring for drug abuse is removed from the involuntary backs of taxpayers. Not to mention a boatload of other nanny state services we have to pay for.

On October 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pm, dakine said:
C’mon…I’m still waiting to hear from all the “would-be nanny state hating libertarian wannabes” out there who don’t want the government to intrude on your personal liberty. What is your position on decriminalizing drug use?

Fine with me. And while were at it all “free” medical and intervention services need to be privitized so the cost of caring for drug abuse is removed from the involuntary backs of taxpayers.

Not to mention a boatload of other nanny state services we have to pay for.

]]> By: seejanemom http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-145223 seejanemom Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:25:59 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-145223 Ahhhh...the old <a href="http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2007/10/graeme-frost-ye.html" rel="nofollow">Victory By Proxy</a> trick. Point: Dems As my seventh grader's football coach tells him, "If they're holding the ball, clean their clock." Ahhhh…the old Victory By Proxy trick.

Point: Dems

As my seventh grader’s football coach tells him, “If they’re holding the ball, clean their clock.”

]]> By: Yashmak http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144808 Yashmak Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:24:30 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144808 I'm in the process of quitting smoking myself, since I can no longer financially support the habit. Next thing you know, I won't be able to afford coffee anymore either, because the gubmint decides to tax it too. I’m in the process of quitting smoking myself, since I can no longer financially support the habit.

Next thing you know, I won’t be able to afford coffee anymore either, because the gubmint decides to tax it too.

]]> By: JohnHolliday http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144740 JohnHolliday Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:28:49 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144740 Another interesting debate. The liberals raise taxes on cigarettes so they can fund health care. Intelligent people know that higher taxes on something will stop them from doing it. As Chief Justice John Marshall once said, "The power to tax involves the power to destroy." Unfortunately, liberals don't understand that. They actually believe that tax revenue will go up if you raise taxes. Initially, yes. Long term, snort-worthy. In CA, they have their vaunted anti-smoking commercials paid for by state money. After the campaign ran for a while, the state had a survey done. The number of smokers (and smoking in general) was down. One of the survey questions was about the effectiveness of the commercials. The liberals were giddy with anticipation about the outcome showing the intelligence of liberals! Show the unwashed masses that the socialist gov't is always right! However, the majority of previous smokers said they quit because the increased taxes made the cost prohibitive. The liberals cocked their heads sideways, got the deer-stuck-in-the-headlights-look and said, "Huh?" Explaining taxes to a socialist is like explaining nuclear physics to a rock. Another interesting debate. The liberals raise taxes on cigarettes so they can fund health care. Intelligent people know that higher taxes on something will stop them from doing it. As Chief Justice John Marshall once said, “The power to tax involves the power to destroy.” Unfortunately, liberals don’t understand that. They actually believe that tax revenue will go up if you raise taxes. Initially, yes. Long term, snort-worthy.

In CA, they have their vaunted anti-smoking commercials paid for by state money. After the campaign ran for a while, the state had a survey done. The number of smokers (and smoking in general) was down. One of the survey questions was about the effectiveness of the commercials. The liberals were giddy with anticipation about the outcome showing the intelligence of liberals! Show the unwashed masses that the socialist gov’t is always right! However, the majority of previous smokers said they quit because the increased taxes made the cost prohibitive. The liberals cocked their heads sideways, got the deer-stuck-in-the-headlights-look and said, “Huh?”

Explaining taxes to a socialist is like explaining nuclear physics to a rock.

]]> By: jbirish http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144673 jbirish Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:44:33 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144673 Another "fee" to pick my pocket. I smoke, but the senior blimp's a lush. I want a $20 tax on each bottle of booze. Mary Jo K would be proud. People die from second hand smoke? Ask for the WHO findings on second hand smoke. It may be an irritant, but those who have been exposed develop a resistance to lung cancer. They didn't publish that finding to the general public. Alcohol kills more innocent people than second hand smoke. I bet Mary Jo's parents would agree if they were free to talk. Another “fee” to pick my pocket. I smoke, but the senior blimp’s a lush. I want a $20 tax on each bottle of booze. Mary Jo K would be proud. People die from second hand smoke? Ask for the WHO findings on second hand smoke. It may be an irritant, but those who have been exposed develop a resistance to lung cancer. They didn’t publish that finding to the general public.
Alcohol kills more innocent people than second hand smoke. I bet Mary Jo’s parents would agree if they were free to talk.

]]> By: jsr http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144558 jsr Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:46:28 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144558 I'd love to ask these libs if pregnant women should be fined for smoking. It might cause their oversized heads to explode! I’d love to ask these libs if pregnant women should be fined for smoking. It might cause their oversized heads to explode!

]]> By: nbarry http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144518 nbarry Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:38:44 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144518 Mark Twain said it best: "Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it a hundred times." Mark Twain said it best:

“Quitting smoking is easy. I’ve done it a hundred times.”

]]> By: rw http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144476 rw Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:35:16 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144476 Now that Barack Obama has quit smoking, does that mean that he no longer is paying for all of the wonderful liberal things that cigarette taxes fund? Why does Obama hate wonderful liberal programs that do wonderful liberal things for the downtrodden and oppressed peoples? Now that Barack Obama has quit smoking, does that mean that he no longer is paying for all of the wonderful liberal things that cigarette taxes fund?

Why does Obama hate wonderful liberal programs that do wonderful liberal things for the downtrodden and oppressed peoples?

]]> By: Uncle Ralph http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144454 Uncle Ralph Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:02:12 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144454 What's all the fuss? Just put the kids in the trunk -- that way you can smoke and your mother-in-law can enjoy the company of her grandkids. Disclaimer: I'm a bachelor. [Wonder why?] What’s all the fuss?
Just put the kids in the trunk –
that way you can smoke
and your mother-in-law can enjoy the company of her grandkids.

Disclaimer: I’m a bachelor. [Wonder why?]

]]> By: dakine http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144409 dakine Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:27:46 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144409 leepro, yeah the 3rd hand smoke thing was dumb, and thanks for the info. I'll still pass on breathing in someone's exhaled tobacco smoke. leepro, yeah the 3rd hand smoke thing was dumb, and thanks for the info. I’ll still pass on breathing in someone’s exhaled tobacco smoke.

]]> By: leepro http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144377 leepro Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:48:43 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144377 <blockquote> On October 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pm, dakine said: Augustine, common sense tells me that breathing in tobacco smoke is bad, whether it’s first, second or third hand. As a medical pro, I’d be curious as a layperson to know how the smoke is any less dangerous because it has entered my lungs after being in your lungs.</blockquote> Point #1 Please tell me where "third hand" smoke comes from. Point #2 Smoke that has entered my lings has <strong>already deposited its harmful elements</strong> (tar and nicotine) in my lungs. By the time it gets to you, it's no more than an unwelcome smell. Ever been to a cookout? Ever had a fire in your fireplace?

On October 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pm, dakine said:

Augustine, common sense tells me that breathing in tobacco smoke is bad, whether it’s first, second or third hand. As a medical pro, I’d be curious as a layperson to know how the smoke is any less dangerous because it has entered my lungs after being in your lungs.

Point #1
Please tell me where “third hand” smoke comes from.

Point #2
Smoke that has entered my lings has already deposited its harmful elements (tar and nicotine) in my lungs. By the time it gets to you, it’s no more than an unwelcome smell.

Ever been to a cookout? Ever had a fire in your fireplace?

]]> By: right_on http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144372 right_on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:43:57 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144372 <em>Conservative definition:</em> <strong>common sense</strong>- the ability to think rationally, and act on same. <em>Liberal definition:</em> <strong>common sense</strong> - an affliction or defect in conservative thinking, which causes undue pain and suffering, both economically and intellectually, to those less fortunate. Conservative definition: common sense- the ability to think rationally, and act on same.

Liberal definition: common sense – an affliction or defect in conservative thinking, which causes undue pain and suffering, both economically and intellectually, to those less fortunate.

]]> By: purplepeep http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144334 purplepeep Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:15:27 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144334 Yup, Right_On - if we're going to go after people engaging in harmful behavior in the privacy of their homes, let's do it right. The stats on homosexual men and AIDS are just as alarming as those on smoking, if not more so. And they are allowed - actually encouraged - to engage in disease spreading behaviors in public, i.e. the open sex fairs to which you alluded. There are even <em>sponsors</em> who will pay for the public sex parties - but not the horrific and costly results. We get to pick up that tab. At least smokers pay for their "sin" every time they buy a pack of cigarettes. Let the sin taxes apply to all or to none. I know that's politically incorrect, but common sense is rarely PC. Yup, Right_On – if we’re going to go after people engaging in harmful behavior in the privacy of their homes, let’s do it right. The stats on homosexual men and AIDS are just as alarming as those on smoking, if not more so.

And they are allowed – actually encouraged – to engage in disease spreading behaviors in public, i.e. the open sex fairs to which you alluded. There are even sponsors who will pay for the public sex parties – but not the horrific and costly results. We get to pick up that tab.

At least smokers pay for their “sin” every time they buy a pack of cigarettes. Let the sin taxes apply to all or to none.

I know that’s politically incorrect, but common sense is rarely PC.

]]> By: blues http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/comment-page-1/#comment-144327 blues Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:11:04 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/calif-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-kidss-chip-expansionists-heads-explode/#comment-144327 I've run into this paradox(?)before here in Pa.We'll tax smokers to pay for whatever--then tell peole where and when they can smoke and cause them to quit.Where do they then expect to get their needed revenue then?Liberals can't seem to be able to think beyond their noses,or to learn from History.They still think Socialism can work"if we all work together,kumbaya".Morons. I’ve run into this paradox(?)before here in Pa.We’ll tax smokers to pay for whatever–then tell peole where and when they can smoke and cause them to quit.Where do they then expect to get their needed revenue then?Liberals can’t seem to be able to think beyond their noses,or to learn from History.They still think Socialism can work”if we all work together,kumbaya”.Morons.

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