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The racial crimes the Left doesn’t want to talk about

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 16, 2007 10:31 PM

Innocent black Americans are being harassed, driven out of their neighborhoods, and targeted for murder.

Why isn’t it on the front page of every national newspaper? Why isn’t CNN doing special documentaries? Why aren’t Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton up in arms?

Because the perpetrators are illegal alien Latino gangs. Doesn’t fit the old white vs. black narrative.

Via the Los Angeles Times:

Federal prosecutors today charged members of the Latino Florencia 13 street gang with racially motivated crimes against African Americans, including several attempted homicides.

Authorities said the gang specifically tried to eliminate rival African American gangs in South L.A. and the Florence-Firestone area in an effort to “cleanse” the neighborhood. In doing so, they mistakenly harassed and attacked innocent African American residents, according to the indictment.

More than 60 members and associates of the Florencia 13 street gang were charged with federal racketeering and drug charges.

“In their attempt to intimidate African Americans in the community, they targeted innocent citizens,” U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O’Brien said.

O’Brien said the arrests were the result of a nearly three-year investigation into the gang that culminated in federal indictments at the end of the summer.

The arrests come as both local and federal officials have launched a crackdown on race-motivated gang crime across L.A. Authorities have already filed charges against a different Latino gang in the Harbor Gateway area accused of crimes against African Americans, including the slaying of a teenage girl last year.

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Flashback: La Shawn Barber, “Black and Hispanic ‘Hate’ in LA County

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  1. #1
    On October 16th, 2007 at 10:35 pm, geminicontender said:

    Never stop. Keep moving forward and remove the ‘rats’ of our society (or other countries trash).

  2. #2
    On October 16th, 2007 at 10:38 pm, BadIdeaGuy said:

    Maybe Geraldo Rivera could threaten to spit on the Florencia 13 gang to get them to stop?

  3. #3
    On October 16th, 2007 at 10:42 pm, xplodeit said:

    If whites did’nt do it, then its not news./s But true

  4. #4
    On October 16th, 2007 at 10:56 pm, shooter said:

    Cant wait for the apologia rhetoric on this one….
    .
    Geraldo vs. Sharpton maybe?
    spittle v. flatulence-
    .
    oh please let it be so.
    .
    .
    .
    p.s. GO ROCKIES!!! How bout my boys here in COLORADO.Thx Charlie M.

  5. #5
    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:01 pm, Speakup said:

    Rights groups have tried to make assimilation into a dirty word and we have lobbying and massive amounts of video to prove of how much Hispanics feel threatened by any effort to encourage the least bit of adjusting to life here.

    Looks like violent racism could be one of those cultural aspects that unprecedented mass migrating gang members just don’t want to leave behind.

    Besides, they’re Antonio’s private army.

  6. #6
    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:05 pm, Alphonse said:

    African Americans seem divided on the subject of Hispanic infiltration and immigration. Some of them see Hispanics as a threat to low end jobs and so forth, and others welcome a minority-majority coalition dominating the country in the future.

  7. #7
    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:08 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Chertoff should be fired! This proves he has allowed a turd world invasion into this country. Now, guess who picks up the tap for the trial for the nice young men who would never do Americans any harm. They just want to sell CRACK, I mean work.

  8. #8
    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:09 pm, OldGuy53 said:

    It’s a shame that, no matter what you do, this kind of racial crime will never get the attention it deserves.
    That’s because of the perception of the MSM that only whites can be racists.

  9. #9
    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:09 pm, Jim M. said:

    Seems Jesse and Al were also conspiculously absent from weighing in on the Newark Massacre as well. Guess those latino gangs are a little tougher to shakedown than their usual prey.

  10. #10
    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:10 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    Without any moral standards or compass the liberal left is deaf and dumb when it comes to standing for America.

  11. #11
    On October 17th, 2007 at 12:26 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Lame Stream Media news flash: Oh, never mind.

  12. #12
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:03 am, AlturaCt said:

    This is just the tip of the iceberg about racial crimes the left doesn’t want to talk about.

    We are truly schizophrenic when it come to race, racism, crime & hypocrisy in this country. It will ultimately explode and maybe even destroy this country.

  13. #13
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:08 am, Cosmo said:

    That whole area of L.A. is pristine. They’ve completely taken over the most scenic and beautiful parts of the city. It’s truly paradise on earth. It’s what the Beach Boys sang about.

    /sarc

    Jesse? Oh, Jesse? O Bother Brother, where art thou?

  14. #14
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:39 am, Texhoma said:

    On October 16th, 2007 at 10:38 pm, BadIdeaGuy said:
    Maybe Geraldo Rivera could threaten to spit on the Florencia 13 gang to get them to stop?

    Don’t you mean spit on the blacks for not leaving the neighborhood. With any luck he can get Michelle to go their to report on this and he can kill two birds with one big LOOGIE.

  15. #15
    On October 17th, 2007 at 2:00 am, Etan said:

    #1, I completely agree:

    illegals = ‘rats’

  16. #16
    On October 17th, 2007 at 2:17 am, DarkKnight said:

    You are one to talk about race Ms. Malkin!

    Pretty soon people are going to start calling you, Mr. Moran and others the “We-can-accuse-everyone-else-of-playing-the-race-card-except-for-Clarence-Thomas” wing of the GOP.

    IMO, anything you say about race from this point forward is null and void because there is ZERO credibility.

    Why?

    Because you are trying to have it both ways. And it’s not flying.

    On one hand you say:

    [paraphrasing] “Race doesn’t matter! You lefties should stop getting twisted into a bunch!”

    -The Filipino doctor jokes on Desperate Housewives
    -The lack of coverage on the string of nooses strung over the country recently
    -Lack of comment on the noose incident at Columbia until conspiracies started to surface about the surveillance tape
    -The ignoring (and defense)of Justice Thomas using the so-called “race card” during his hearings
    -Your lack of denouncing the GOP candidates who refused to participate in a minority audience debate.
    -Your lack of denouncing those who say that “hate crimes” don’t exist, only crime exists.
    -Accusing civil rights leaders and organizations and those agree are considered “race hustlers”

    Then you turn around and post stories such as this one where you say:

    “See! Race does matter! Why isn’t the MSM covering this?”

    -John Edwards allegedly “talking smack” about black people
    -Sen. Clinton’s “accent” in black churches
    -This story about the L.A. gangs attacking blacks
    -Other websites attacking your ethnicity instead of your opinion

    Either race still matters in our society, or it doesn’t?

    Which is it Ms. Malkin?

  17. #17
    On October 17th, 2007 at 2:31 am, garyt said:

    So how does the Mexican government handle gangs in their cities? Since Mexico is suppose to be a free republic and allows free expression and never gets any world condemnation on how it handles dissent. So Ideally the USA should follow Mexico’s model on how it handles gangs, job creation, and other social services. Is it just me but I never hear of “gang” problems in Mexico itself or is just conviently overlooked by the MSM?

  18. #18
    On October 17th, 2007 at 2:51 am, Etan said:

    #16

    You are one to talk about race Ms. Malkin!

    Filipinos are not the problem, Mexicans and Latin Americans are.

    Either race still matters in our society, or it doesn’t?

    Race does matter statistically speaking (depending on the size of the problem). We have to start somewhere if we are to be effective. Ridding ourselves of illegal Mexicans is our most sensible approach to ridding ourselves of this problem.

    Its a matter of practicality, but no alien, regardless of race should think they have a pass. All we are asking is that people respect our laws.

  19. #19
    On October 17th, 2007 at 3:02 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Ha! I knew the Justice Brothers wouldn’t compromise their liberal beliefs to help out fellow African Americans when no white perpetrators (guilty or innocent) are involved.

    If they want to fight so bad, send them to Iraq. Seriously.

    Quite frankly, DarkKnight, the GOP doesn’t usually do racial debates because many racial activist groups, like the NAACP, are just a front for liberalism that uses race as a screen.

  20. #20
    On October 17th, 2007 at 3:20 am, hadsil said:

    Doing the job white Americans won’t do.

  21. #21
    On October 17th, 2007 at 4:00 am, Uplander said:

    Only conservatives can be race haters. Everyone knows that.
    /Sarc off

  22. #22
    On October 17th, 2007 at 6:38 am, Viper1 said:

    Government will never fix this problem, its going to be up to the people to take control of these issues.

  23. #23
    On October 17th, 2007 at 6:42 am, zorro said:

    Great post Michelle. And I think DarkKnight needs a little sleep.

  24. #24
    On October 17th, 2007 at 6:58 am, ajmontana said:

    Still not waiting anxiously for Geraldo’s book on MS-13 he said he was writing during the Laura Ingraham show interview. lol. :roll:

  25. #25
    On October 17th, 2007 at 7:02 am, TMoney said:

    After a three-year investigation, they only got 60 specimens of this scum? I suppose it is progress, albeit slow in coming.

    And I am sick and tired of the Geraldos of the world calling ‘illegal alien’ a RACE; it ain’t a race, it’s a criminal.
    Damn…Just Damn

  26. #26
    On October 17th, 2007 at 7:14 am, conservativesRus said:

    Of course while race is involved….who is more dead. Those taken out by an Hispanic gang or a black gang or the KKK? I can assure you that all three are equally as dead, however only one of these three would achieve the highest attention in the news. The issue isn’t race - it’s killing. Until we quit coddling criminals, we can expect this to continue.

  27. #27
    On October 17th, 2007 at 7:32 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 16th, 2007 at 11:05 pm, Alphonse said:
    African Americans seem divided on the subject of Hispanic infiltration and immigration. illegal immigration. Some of them see Hispanics as a threat to low end jobs and so forth, and others welcome a minority-majority coalition dominating the country in the future.

    Fixed it for ya…not that I agree with your assessment.

  28. #28
    On October 17th, 2007 at 7:37 am, conservativesRus said:

    #25…can you imagine. After a 3 year investigation, the feds determined the patient had a broken left arm and that indeed it was covered under the government left wing program. The delay was attributed to the lack of wire tap authority … blah, blah, blah. Just wait till we have government run health care.

  29. #29
    On October 17th, 2007 at 7:57 am, reine.de.tout said:

    Once again, the “rights” of various “aggrieved” groups bump up against one another, and everyone gets confused about how to handle it.

  30. #30
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:04 am, ajmontana said:

    I wish everyone was color blind, then you would either be an a$$hole or not an a$$hole. Break the LAW go to jail or be deported period.

  31. #31
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:25 am, jsr said:

    I live in an area that has been overrun with illegal immigrants and have lots of experience with them. Most of them hold Afro-Americans in utter contempt. They are they are not interested in diversity or nor are they shy about their views. Some of these ‘leaders’ of the black community ought to learn Spanish and go do some first hand investigating of their new coalition partners attitudes

  32. #32
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:28 am, pubscout said:

    Crimes against black folks don’t make the radar unless they’re committed by white folks. Why is this news? Isn’t that the way it’s always been?

  33. #33
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:36 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I had a friend who told me that black people can’t be racists because they don’t have power. Power apparently is the catalyst for racism.
    While I vehemently disagree and explained to her that her statement was completedly off the mark. I couldn’t help but think that she truly believed that and how I sad I was for her which didn’t last very long as she said I needed to take an African American studies course. Apparently I’m not “black enough” because I disagree that black people can’t be racists.
    She received an undergrad degree in journalism from Temple University (they are teaching hate) and if that’s what they are teaching, thanks but no thanks, I’ll spend my money elsewhere.

    Besides, the fact that her statement was completely non-sensical, I have firsthand experience with black racism.

  34. #34
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:42 am, Boomer said:

    Gangs should not be tolerated in any community. I don’t care what race, creed, color, or sex they are derived from. Under Maslow’s hierarchy of needs human behavior model any association fills the need to belong to a group, however gang membership is just plain unhealthy to a community at every level of society. Obviously the authorities will never have the stones to do anything about them other than hold midnight basketball games in the communities thinking that will keep them from preying on the innocent or trying to kill each other. If the folks in the community rise up they face not only violence acts from the gangs, but will have to fight it out with the authorities too. It is a no-win situation for decent law abiding citizens. For years we have heard from the MSM how these sociopaths are societies fault and all they need is love and understanding. What they need is to be treated like the frothing mad dogs they are. Many communities need to be retaken from the gangs and even if it takes house-to-house fighting using the Military to take back these communities we should be doing it. At the same time we could be rounding up illegal invaders and sending them back to their country of origin.

    My two cents for what ever its worth.

  35. #35
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:50 am, englishqueen01 said:

    It’s always fascinating to me to watch liberals trip over themselves when two of their politically-correct causes meet. Which cause will win out? Which is more politically correct?

    When you are, as many liberals are, a believer in moral relativity, it makes perfect sense that on one day, Cause A is at the forefront and Cause B the next - even if Cause B contradicts or conflicts with Cause A. It’s just fascinating.

    In this case, it should speak VOLUMES to the black community just how much their “leaders” and those politicians who pander for their votes (hello, Hillary!) really care about them. Because clearly they don’t matter to Democrats, Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson when illegal immigrants are the ones committing crimes against them.

    I can’t even decipher the twisted lack of logic that motivates liberal thinking. It goes something like black is better than white, but illegal immigrants are better than anyone…it’s a joke. An absolute joke.

    DarkKnight:

    Do you know the meaning of the word hypocrisy?

    Let me clarify for you.

    Liberals are always the first to play the “race card” in pretty much 9 out of 10 instances (remember OJ - he wasn’t on trial for the murder of his ex-wife, just because he was black; or the Jena 6, whose crime of assaulting a student is overlooked because of their race).

    But that only applies to certain, protected groups - blacks, illegal immigrants, Asians, and Muslims - and ONLY when supporting said groups will support the liberals’ causes or win a Democrat votes or put money in the pocket of “leaders” like Jackson or Sharpton.

    At the same time, people like Michelle are subjected to racial slurs, Clarence Thomas has been mocked horribly for being a black conservative, etc., etc.

    So there is a clear hypocrisy - mention race and we’ll (liberals) jump on you, but if we disagree with/dislike your ideology (read: if you’re conservative) we can attack you, or allow others to attack you, with racial slurs and pejoratives and that is permissible.

    A colorblind society is one that puts laws, morals, and traditional values over issues of race. A colorblind society would not have affirmative action, or allow people like Sharpton or Jackson to set the parameters of what is and isn’t racism. A colorblind society really does judge a person by the content of his character in all things…

    So far as I can tell, Michelle and others are - in this post - defending the black community against crimes carried out not by a race but by another group: criminals. Just because a majority of illegal immigrants are Mexican/Hispanic does not make it racist to oppose or object to their law-breaking.

    And the liberals who are so quick to play that “race card” when whites commit crimes against blacks have made it clear it’s more politically correct to support law breakers over innocent citizens being harassed, threatened, and murdered by said law breakers.

  36. #36
    On October 17th, 2007 at 8:59 am, xler8bmw said:

    #16 Dark Night did someone piss in your wheaties? Take it easy on MM.

  37. #37
    On October 17th, 2007 at 9:22 am, joeblough said:

    “Liberals” as they are called, NAZI’s in my personal vocabulary, could not possibly be less interested in the personal welfare of private black citizens, or any other sort of citizens, or even humans for that matter.

    They are interested in one thing and one thing only — POWER !!!.

    So they will say whatever they think is apt to excite the people involved and incline then toward the democrats,

    Truth, non-truth, whichever, the whole thing is a toxic load of bue\llii

  38. #38
    On October 17th, 2007 at 9:45 am, Jaded said:

    Calling AL, Jesse? OMG where are you guys?

    I guess the hater’s are not white enough for these two guys.

  39. #39
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:07 am, purplepeep said:

    DarkKnight said:
    Either race still matters in our society, or it doesn’t?

    Let me clear up your confusion, DK. Race shouldn’t matter; it only does to the extent that liberal PC thought-crime laws and related lunacy demand it to matter. That is what Michelle is saying; if you’re going to scream “hate time” at every opportunity at least be consistent. She’s inviting the left to be consistent - an area where they consistently lack.

    Be especially outraged at all or drop the selective identity-based hypocrisy.

  40. #40
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:18 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    This is in response to DarkKnight #16:

    The difference in what MM and others consider when they discuss race or more specifically, racial relevance when discussing an issue is, as an example, this:

    Illegal Immigration: Race is NOT an issue. It doesn’t matter which race you are if you are here illegally. As it so happens, the majority of illegal aliens are hispanic. However, the left twists and writhes and makes it seem as if anyone who is against illegal immigrants is racially intolerant of hispanics!

    That is like saying if you’re against serial killers, you are prejudiced against white males in their late 20’s - early 30’s ( a general profile which fits a majority of serial killers ).

    To more directly respond to your comments:

    -The Filipino doctor jokes on Desperate Housewives
    -The lack of coverage on the string of nooses strung over the country recently
    -Lack of comment on the noose incident at Columbia until conspiracies started to surface about the surveillance tape
    -The ignoring (and defense)of Justice Thomas using the so-called “race card” during his hearings
    -Your lack of denouncing the GOP candidates who refused to participate in a minority audience debate.
    -Your lack of denouncing those who say that “hate crimes” don’t exist, only crime exists.
    -Accusing civil rights leaders and organizations and those agree are considered “race hustlers”

    Desparate Housewives - not played up due to the left not viewing Philipinos in the same ‘racial’ tone as blacks / hispanics

    Justice Thomas - was it the conservatives calling him an ‘Uncle Tom’? No - it was the left. WHO’S playing the race card?

    Hate Crimes? A crime is a crime - either it was committed or not. Hate Crimes punish thought.

    Sharpton, Jackson, et al ARE race hustlers - open your eyes.

    Then you turn around and post stories such as this one where you say:

    “See! Race does matter! Why isn’t the MSM covering this?”

    -John Edwards allegedly “talking smack” about black people
    -Sen. Clinton’s “accent” in black churches
    -This story about the L.A. gangs attacking blacks
    -Other websites attacking your ethnicity instead of your opinion

    Either race still matters in our society, or it doesn’t?

    John Edwards - Liberal. If Bush or another conservative had said those words, there would have been outrage.

    Clinton’s Accent - She’s Liberal. Again, if a conservative had mimicked a black/southern accent he’d have been demonized as pandering by the MSM and those like Sharpton.

    Latino Gangs attacking Black Citizens won’t get the same MSM play as a white gang / citizens attacking those same blacks. Latinos are a minority and the face the MSM has put on the illegal immigration battle - they won’t tarnish it.

    Attacks on Michelle WON’T be played loudly because she’s conservative. Period.

    Sorry for the long-winded post…

  41. #41
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:28 am, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    Where is Jackson and Sharpton?

    There is no one or company with money to shake down and profit from…so this is NOT an issue!

  42. #42
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:28 am, purplepeep said:

    jrlingreenbay said:
    Desparate Housewives - not played up due to the left not viewing Philipinos in the same ‘racial’ tone as blacks / hispanics

    You have to also keep in mind, JRL, since Michelle is of Filipino descent the left didn’t want to concede it was an insult that included her. It would’ve made a lotta liberal heads explode!

  43. #43
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:32 am, purplepeep said:

    jrlingreenbay said:
    Attacks on Michelle WON’T be played loudly because she’s conservative. Period.

    Oops - I see you did mention that.
    Nevermind……

  44. #44
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:32 am, Rusty said:

    I had a friend who told me that black people can’t be racists because they don’t have power. Power apparently is the catalyst for racism.

    Yes and no. Anyone can be racist, obviously. But racism is only truly apparent when power is involved. It doesn’t have to be a lot of power, just a little. If a black cabbie refuses to pick up a white passenger (or vice versa), that is a racist act because that cabbie is using his limited power against you.

    Obviously, whites in America have significantly more power than blacks. White-on-black racism has a more powerful past and present than any other combination.

    As for the coverage of this…I wish every murder and hate crime were treated equally, but that’s never going to be the case. All the murders in DC end up in the Metro (B) section of the Post. Except for when a white kid is murdered and it ends up on the front page…not just the Post’s front page, but the page of my hometown paper, The Cape Cod Times. In a perfect world every lost human life is treated equally. After all, we are all equal. But a black getting shot by a black or a Latino doesn’t generate nearly the outrage if a white person is either the attacker or the victim. That’s sickly disappointing. and it shows how far the country needs to go with how we view race.

  45. #45
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:46 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Rusty, that’s not what she meant. By her definition, I could never do anything that could be deemed racist since I am black…even if it was indeed racist. She is playing the “victimization” card and I think it is a weak platform and told her so…

  46. #46
    On October 17th, 2007 at 10:52 am, Rusty said:

    Yeah, that platform is pretty weak.

  47. #47
    On October 17th, 2007 at 11:01 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Why isn’t it on the front page of every national newspaper?

    Didn’t the NYT cover GITMO like over 50 times? So, the answer is easy. Just start a rumor that a conservative latino gang member at GITMO mugged a liberal African American (or, Heaven forbid - a terrorist). Now you will get the coverage this so well deserves.

  48. #48
    On October 17th, 2007 at 11:06 am, uhangtight said:

    dark knight’s hatred is exposed. besides incorrectly quoting MM, who was obviously pointing out the hypocrisy of the left’s race baiting. race would not matter but for people like the al sharptons, jesse jacksons and the mainstream media who feed the flames of racism.

    yes, what the Black/African American (see I am African American, but Arab) need to realize is that La Raza means just that, no other race but those of the Mexicano origin. I do not think these are the best political bedfellows and I think my fellow African Americans must wake up and start marching against the illegal/criminals.

    The insult to parallel the plight of the illegal alien to that of the Civil Rights for the ancestors of the enslaved is beyond the pale. This makes me angry. where is the indignation from the Black/African community? silence here is not golden, it is suicidal.

  49. #49
    On October 17th, 2007 at 11:11 am, Etan said:

    “As it so happens, the majority of illegal aliens are hispanic. However, the left twists and writhes and makes it seem as if anyone who is against illegal immigrants is racially intolerant of hispanics!”

    Of course there will be an anti-hispanic sentiment, and there should be. Again, there is no one to blame outside of illegal hispanics. Clearing their own name should give legal hispanics incentive to care more about helping us cleanse this infection of our country.

  50. #50
    On October 17th, 2007 at 11:27 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    On October 17th, 2007 at 11:11 am, Etan said:

    Of course there will be an anti-hispanic sentiment, and there should be. Again, there is no one to blame outside of illegal hispanics.

    The key word there, Etan, is illegal.

    I could give a rat’s-behind whether they are hispanic, asian, black, arab, polish, italian or whatever.

    The point of being against illegal immigration is not that you are anti-hispanic / pole / italian / asian, etc…

    It is that you want the laws and sovereignty of the United States enforced and respected.

    The racial issue comes in because the liberals choose to make it a racial issue by denouncing anti-illegal proponents as racists.

    I disagree that there should be, generally, an “anti-hispanic” sentiment, as you suggest. I have sentiments which, due to the nature of the issue, are anti-Mexico, due to their lack of assistance to us in this crisis. That does not make me anti-hispanic - as a rule.

  51. #51
    On October 17th, 2007 at 12:07 pm, Etan said:

    #50 On October 17th, 2007 at 11:27 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    I disagree that there should be, generally, an “anti-hispanic” sentiment, as you suggest.

    The “anti-hispanic” sentiment is a natural byproduct of taking the illegal immigration seriously, so whether there SHOULD or shouldn’t be be is irrelevant. My argument is that a sense of “anti-hispanic” sentiment can be in itself positive in that it spurs those legal immigrants to help us with the purge.

    I also argue that there are specific benefits with targeting hispanic illegals over going after other racial groups (Chinese, Filipinos, Russian, Korean, Italian, etc…), the most obvious, being cost. In this sense race does matter, and if you’re looking for articles and discussion on targeting Russians/ Italians, etc… illegals, this may not be the right forum, my friend, as Michelle and her husband’s blog statistically supports this assumption.

    I think our agreements on the matter far outweigh the question of a specific strategy. Fundamentally, we are on the same team, and I can clearly see your points are subjectively valid.

  52. #52
    On October 17th, 2007 at 12:22 pm, jrlingreenbay said:

    My argument is that a sense of “anti-hispanic” sentiment can be in itself positive in that it spurs those legal immigrants to help us with the purge.

    I, too, agree with you that we are on the same page. I think I mis-interpreted your ‘anti-hispanic’ statement.

    I also agree that the major focus of illegal immigration is borne upon the hispanic community, but this is due to the overwhelming numbers of illegals who are hispanic.

    This is kind of a house-of-mirrors discussion point because I think most of us are on the same page - but different words / phrases / ideas cause interpretations to be seen differently at times.

  53. #53
    On October 17th, 2007 at 12:45 pm, Etan said:

    jrlingreenbay, I’m happy we are seeing eye to eye!

    Although they may not look like it superficially, hispanics, on a family level there is almost a “race” for assimilation, so self image in this country is very important to this demographic (You’ll be surprised on how many hispanics there are among us who don’t look hispanic or even speak spanish!). The tarnished image illegals give all hispanics can be a powerful motivator to get them on our side of the issue…to get its s**t together, so to speak.

    This is very different than many other illegal minority groups, for example russians, koreans, who hold on to their culture much more, and would be harder to convince and to purge. We have to start someplace after-all;)

  54. #54
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:00 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Dark Knight is Al Sharpton.

  55. #55
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:04 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Funny story:
    One day in the supermarket while waiting in the checkout line (my husband’s boss was 3rd in line), the lady who was first in line was paying the cashier when the customer’s daughter(2nd in line)asked the woman (1st in line), how come her skin is dark? The woman replied, because I am African American. The girl pondered her reply for a bit and said, I’m an American too and hugged her!

  56. #56
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:15 pm, Etan said:

    #55

    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:04 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Indeed a touching story we can all take something from, but sadly, the privelage of naïveté.

  57. #57
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:27 pm, LaEnchiladita said:

    First of all, I am a gringa, in case anyone is misled by my screen name.

    I used to be racially idealistic, now I believe we need to be racially realistic.

    Living in L.A., as I have for most of my life (can’t wait to get out, though), I’ve gathered some insight. Black folks I’ve talked with during this Mexican invasion see favoritism towards Hispanics as a fact. They do not care for the “La Raza first” attitude any more than I do. However, they are mostly passive and submissive in response, even though their children are attacked by Hispanics in our public schools on a daily basis.

    Instead, the local so-called “leaders of the Black community” try to promote a “dialog” and cooperation between the communities. You will note this is not being promoted by Latinos. Blacks, perhaps, are blinded by their own history… still think “Whitey” is the problem and being idealistic in believing that “people of color” all share a bond. In reality, this is glaringly untrue.

    Nearly all Hispanics, Latinos, etc., act only in a way that benefits their own. I have never seen such a selfish ethnic group ever. Whether they are born here, naturalized or illegal, they always look for advantages for the Latino, and are bent on domination, bringing more of the Spanish language and Mexican/Central American way of life into this country, undiluted.

    They are the first in line for the freebies, whether public, private or religious. Oh yes, they know how to “work” the churches for all they are worth. Ever heard of Roger Mahony?

    To know them is to be stabbed in the back by them. They are DEADLY co-workers towards anyone non-Hispanic. Yes, black folks complain privately but are passive and submissive re the problem. Now that law enforcement has defended their interests, though, I doubt they will be grateful.

    L.A. is a place to leave.

  58. #58
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:39 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Indeed a touching story we can all take something from, but sadly, the privelage of naïveté.

    But also a good sign for the future…

  59. #59
    On October 17th, 2007 at 1:46 pm, Etan said:

    But also a good sign for the future…

    Count me in as an optimist, as if history is our teacher, race will always be an issue.

    And if this is indeed the case, let’s at least try to go about it more tactfully than our predecessors;)

  60. #60
    On October 17th, 2007 at 3:45 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    Because the perpetrators are illegal alien Latino gangs. Doesn’t fit the old white vs. black narrative.MM

    Yes, I agree. The MSM will not report stories that do not fit into the white vs. black narrative. I also think it has a money component as well. The justice brother supporters are from Black and Latino communities. This equates to financial and logistical support. If their supporters are told that African Americans kill more African Americans than whites, their supporters would “fire” them for not doing their supposed job. If Al Sharpton doesn’t have his supporters around for the photo opportunities, he won’t get any MSM coverage. According to the FBI’s Uniform crime report (2005), 92.6 percent of all African Americans were killed by other African Americans. Where’s all the outrage on black on black crime? There is no outrage by the justice brothers on this one, because the MSM refuses to report this fact. They are so busy blaming society for the problems they commit against themselves. We have individual choices in life. We as individuals can choose to do drugs, sell drugs, carry weapons, kill my fellow man, or choose not to do these things. We can choose to get educated. Black America: Your being lied to.

    DarkKnight: Bring it.

  61. #61
    On October 17th, 2007 at 4:39 pm, Etan said:

    People!

    Is it really out job to attempt to justify the black on black/latino crime issue? The Dems seem to have all the racial answers.

    I propose we let them sort out excuses themselves. Question is…

    What do we do about our little problem, or is it even our responsibility? It certainly affects us, after all.

  62. #62
    On October 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pm, garyt said:

    I don’t want to sound ignorant but are there white gangs in the LA area? or does LA lack enough of a white population to have gangs? Again how does Mexico deal with with gangs? How does Mexico deal with diversity? how does Mexico deal with health care, unemployment insurance and social security. Surely Mexico has no faults and the US should follow this great model.

  63. #63
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:07 am, JWS said:

    Who really cares? Actually, this is perfect. Let two “victim” groups target each other, so the rest of us can live in peace. Viva Da El Victims, Bro!

  64. #64
    On November 6th, 2007 at 7:40 am, AuntiEm said:
  65. #65
    On March 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm, RetFireman said:

    Why is this such a surprise to anyone? Everyone knows that the only people, the only race that can physically be racist is the Caucasian race. No other race is physically capable of doing anything known as “racist”. It is something in the genetic make-up of all caucasians that allows caucasians and only caucasians to be racist. there is a strand of DNA fouind only in caucasians, and not found in any other race, which is responsible for any and all racist activities.

    Anything else that occurs, such as Latino gangs targeting innocent black families and innocent black youths, black street gangs terrorizing caucasioans on buses, blacks beating up whites while yelling epithets such as “Cracka, Whitey, Honkey, Snow-Flake” and others, blacks raping white women and telling them they are doing so because they are white, Koreans and other Asian shop owners treating black patrons as if they are all thugs and all going to rob them…all these things are not racist in any way simply because these people lack that strand of DNA, they do not have the genetic coding that qualifies what they are doing to be called “Racist”.

    It is a scientific and medical fact. I wish you guys would stop being such typical white people and actually get an education on such matter. Gosh!

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