What MSM stalking looks like
Since the reporter is Hispanic and arrogantly anti-gun, though, you’re not likely to hear a peep from the army of left-wing Concern Trolls.
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Glenn Reynolds observes:
I was struck by reporter Rebecca Aguilar’s body-language, literally standing over him in judgment with tailored suit and umbrella. The way she looked down, literally and figuratively, on an old man who had defended his life, entirely legally, and reduced him to tears seems to me to be representative of the worst stereotypes of Old Media. Then, when she belatedly realizes that she’s coming across like a bully — because, you know, she is — she retreats into faux-sympathy and the laughable claim that she’s just helping him get his side of the story out. It’s like something out of a local-tv parody on The Simpsons. Yet her webpage suggests that she’s on the side of the “little guy.”
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Can you say media whore?
The FoxNews reporterette is all too typical of the shallow and emotion laden people who frequent the American press. Rather than get the news, she badgers and berates based on her own perconceived notions of what the news should be.
Rebecca Aguilar, the Hispanic Journalist of the year, should be fired. She is incapable of objective and unbiased reporting, probably because at least one of the burglars who was shot and killed appears to be an illegal from south of the border. (By the way, this old guys business has been under constant attack by law breakers - so where is the law enforcement? Oh, I forgot, they have better things to do like issuing parking tickets to make money for the city.)
Let Rebecca win the award for best Molly Maid of the Year in 2008 where the feedback is something that she can deal with dispassionately.
Extreme poor pre-judgement on the reporter’s part.
I think she expected a person who would greet her with “Yeah, I did it and I’m happy I did!”
What she got was a man who is saddened by what has had to transpire because of the actions of others.
“Stalking” is apparently something that only eeeevil right wingers are capable of.
How convenient it must be to have a liberal mindset to excuse abhorrent and hypocritical behavior.
How inappropriate.
I’m sure she’d much rather have had an emotional cover story about an elderly veteran killed by thugs robbing his store, and how those thugs had a hard life, etc. She’d probably irritated she lost her story.
It is extremely traumatic to have to defend your life and your property against a criminal, especially if you have to shoot that criminal. But by the rights of natural law, God-given law, and the Constitution…we’re SUPPOSED to be able to defend ourselves against criminals who don’t care about any laws.
She is an opportunistic, condescending, anti-gun, anti-self defense sorry excuse for a reporter and a person.
Nothing like a fresh, hot cup of media bias to start the morning.
It is up to individual citizens to protect their life, liberty, and property in a situation like this. Capitulating to thugs will only encourage more of the same. Two thugs are permanently off the streets because of this brave man.
That’s a reduction in crime. The media should be happy. I certainly am.
Check out the video on youtube and you will be shocked at her callousness towards him.
This is the reason why law abiding gun owners should have an attorney on retainer and not to say anything to the media since it will be misconstrued and taken out of context.
GSP
Isn’t this what Bill O’Reilly’s producer commonly does to liberal judges the show disagrees with? It’s a pretty popular segment. Don’t see this site whining about that. Not that I expect to, but this is hardly a liberal tactic.
I can recall a Dallas police chief some decades ago who was rabidly anti-gun. He seriously told citizens that his police would protect them.
Their response time was such as to assure that the police would arrive to attend to your cooling dead body, which they often got to do.
The reporter was obviously incensed that no charges had been lodged by the police, and implied they could be expected from a grand jury. She will be disappointed…again.
But she got in her licks for the leftist crowd for which she was acting as “talent”. What a piece of work.
Rebecca, don’t you feel proud now? I’ll bet you just don’t feel alive until you denegrate another human being who you have deemed beneath you. Of course, you have that right to be his moral authority because you are so righteous and correct.
It’s funny, you likely criticize Christian’s for standing up as moral authorities. At least the principles we espouse originate from One higher than ourselves. So who’s really the one who thinks they’re “holier than thou.”
Just realized this is a FOX news reporter. Maybe it’s not a lib or con thing, but simply a FOX thing.
The tactic isn’t really at issue here. It is used, and it is useful.
The stark comparison is with MM’s benign reportage, verses this “gotcha” and “in yer face” confrontation in a public parking lot…with the heavy dose of agenda-driven questions to a guy who didn’t want to talk to the “reporter”.
But that subtle difference might confuse some…
Becky, needs to be shown the door. This is what’s passing for journalism these days?
Badgering a 70-year-old man: Digging for hard news.
Driving by someone’s house: Stalking.
No wonder the media is held in such low esteem.
#12
I disagree. The police have been called on BO’s people on occasion. Not so subtle.
It’s ALL bad “reporting”. MM, Bo, and this woman.
A shining example of the compassionate left.
Watershed, could you give us an example of what you consider good reporting?
I’ve been through a couple of weapons training courses, both 9mm and M-16. In the 9mm course we were taught to shoot “double-taps.” Two shots every time with the kill zone square in the middle of the chest. The instructors reason for this (and I quote), “if the first shot doesn’t kill them-the second one will. If the first shot kills them-the second one won’t hurt them.”
You should never “shoot to wound.” The perp might get back up.
She neglected to mentioned the fact he was also robbed 42 times in the last year and finally had enough.
I encourage you to contact the station at:
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/InsideFox/ContactUs
To let them know how you feel about this reporter.
BTW here is how the Hispanic media feels about her.
The National Association of Hispanic Journalists awarded 1980 University alumna, Rebecca Aguilar. as the Hispanic Broadcast journalist of the year at the 22nd Annual Noche de Triunfos Journalism Awards Gala in Washington D.C. on Oct. 4.
As I said…perhaps too subtle for some minds to get…
To review: MM drives down a public street, observes. Goes to public place of business, politely asks to speak to the propietor. Asks polite questions, honestly reports the responses. Corrects misinformation from her own side of the blogosphere.
Ms. On-Camera: Chases down an old man, confronts him on camera with accusatory questions and condescention dripping from every pore. Presses him after he has made it clear he does not wish to speak with her, and especially on camera.
Now, compare those scenarios, and tell me they’re on parity.
#16
Woodward and Bernstein? You know that movie, All the President’s Men? That was pretty good.
I was actually agreeing with the premise that this is an example of bad reporting…and said there are other examples that more than likely will never get the same treatment from this site.
I wasn’t aware that Bill O was trying to be a reporter.
Kinda like comparing apples and tulips
#20
I think MM added greatly (and ultimately incoreectly)to wild speculation about a family’s financial situation when she drove past their house and simply described what she saw, as if a description of a house from a car carried ANY jounalistic weight.
That’s bad reporting.
#22
I think BO would be very interested that you don’t consider him a journalist.
But regardless, the MO is the same: accosting someone with a camera and mike, in BO’s case till the cops are called.
And you have proven your mettle…
and that you’re a waste of time.
Actually watershed…that’s honest reporting. You just said - she described what she saw. Didn’t tell me what to think. Telling me what to think is not reporting - and should not carry any journalistic weight.
Wow, a Liberal that’s never heard of Michael Moore. I didn’t think such a thing existed.
#25, 26
with the drive, she only could offer her (ultimately wrong)opinion about what she thought the house cost, remember? That isn’t pure speculation? (You know, the opposite of hard jounalistic fact?)
Sorry all for taking the bait on MM’s driving by the house….
Guilty as charged…I’ll try to refrain in the future
Dear watercloset
Here’s a hard fact–
The market price of a house is what a willing seller will take from a willing buyer.
The only way to establish that is by looking at the consummated sale of the house.
Everything else is an estimate of the market price.
By what percentage was MM “ultimately wrong” in her estimate, as opposed to the estimate you seem to like better?
#27
I am jut saying that this happens on both sides of the aisle. Not that outrageous a comment.
I just watched the clip. That was one sad excuse for journalism.
I would have loved to see her reaction if Mr. Walton decided to open his new box right in front of her. She probably would’ve run away screaming because she thought he would shoot her.
I have no problem with her request for an interview on the parking lot.
I do however, have a significant problem with her condescending attitude, her pre-supposed ideas, and her obvious bias toward an elderly gentleman who was alearly upset by being forced to take action against these ciminals.
The lesson here is always be prepared and alert. Expect the unexpected and don’t be afraid to use whatever force is necessary to save your life.
All reporters these days have “Woodward and Bernstein” disease. Woodward and Bernstein were two ordinary reporters who got the Watergate story which brought down a President Nixon. That one story brought them fame and wealth. Even today they get book deals, appear on T.V., and their advice is sought on today’s issues.
Now all reporters work hard to get “the story” that will bring them the same fame and wealth. I say ” to hell with them.”
When I went through my training for my CCW the number one rule the Deputy Sheriff went over was “do not talk to the press” if involved in a self-defense or defense of human life shooting. It was also highly recommended if involved in the use of deadly force you should talk with a professional counselor. Those who act as sheepdogs instead of sheep tend to have a conscience and there is a certain amount of guilt involved in being forced to take a human life to protect yours or another innocent citizen’s life or harm from injury. It appears this gentleman is a decent individual showing great remorse for having to use deadly force against the two career criminals. The reporter is an irresponsible witch (trying to keep it clean through clenched teeth) who should be fired immediately for stalking this victim of violent criminals. The only thing he did was fight back when threatened I would like to see how this wench would act if attacked by criminals besides begging for mercy.
Tennessee Dave well put. I have been trained for years when on active duty to tap two rounds aiming for the center of mass, cover the target, and if still a threat tap two more. From what our Combat Arms Training Instructors told us it was also standard law enforcement training. I still train that way today as I continue to work on my weapons handling skills.
watershed - I don’t know what your political stripes are but I am agreeing with everything you are saying.
Driving past a house does not a journalist make.
And as for doorstepping (in a previous life I was a press agency guy in England), as you say, Bill O’Reilly’s producers do this all the time with “out of control” judges… most media organizations do it.
#30
Should I answer, even with the unprovoked insult? But if I don’t it looks like you’ve “gotcha’ed” me. What a dilemma!
The incorrect assumption, and therfore bad jounalistic tack, was to assume that simply because the house LOOKS like it cost a certain amount, the Frost’s PAID that amount for it. There was a rush to judgement that the Frost’s were rich and lying about their income, remember? This site was on the vanguard of that one.
To drive past a house, as if that made ANY difference in the true assesment of the Frosts means, is again, bad journalism.
#36
Wow, England. Isn’t England even more aggressive? I heard that legally they have less burdens of proof or something. What’s the freedom of the press laws like there?
#28
Of course, when the MSM & Dems used the family for their PR they were completely honest and transparent about the family’s situation. They didn’t mind giving the public only part of the story, allowing the public to “speculate” to suit their own end.
Let’s try again…
What was the error…not in baseless accusations…but in numbers, please.
And why are your source’s numbers better than MM’s?
(I thought “watercloset” from “watershed” was a fine play on words. Sorry ’bout your thin skin.)
Toolshed works for me….
#40
The error was the difference random number that MM THOUGHT the house LOOKED like it cost, and the ACTUAL much much lower number that the Frost’s paid. Subtract one from the other.
But of course, the fallout isn’t simply numbers. To use assumption and hearsay as fact is the problem here. There was an assumption, from that drive by and from anonymous emails, that they were RICH LIARS, which they weren’t.
That’s bad journalism.
Whoops, that supposed to be “difference between”.
Well I have a problem with the reporter confronting him in the parking lot. How did she know he was there? Did they follow him to Academy from his home and wait for him to come back to his car? Now that’s stalking.
He has a place of business which also happened to be the crime scene. Why not ask him for an interview there? Not as dramatic?
This isn’t Geraldo chasing down some public official who’s dodging him, this is harrassment.
It appears that watershed believes an asset is something different than money. Therefore, any discussion of financial topics (things like current market value versus price paid years ago, etc) with him is gonna result in using words which have entirely two different meanings depending which party is saying them. Translation becomes very difficult. I’m unable to do it. They sound and look like English words but they seem to mean something very different.
Watershed, you are a tool. Real estate values are based in part on comparables in the neighborhood. She stated after the drive by that the home was on the lower end of the range that others had speculated on. Buy a clue.
#45
Not to make perfectly clear what the Frosts actually did pay, and not to make perfectly clear that they did NOT pay what MM simply assumed the house cost from the view of her car is, sorry again, bad journalism.
What their house costs NOW, and what that has to do with anything, is a different argument.
#46
No, I’m not.
Whatever, she was still way, way off. Again, a guess from a car doesn’t make a journalist.
Make no mistake about it. This attack by Aguilar was because one of the perps killed was named Raul Laureles.
Bad journalism is bad journalism. I don’t think MM was stalking anyone. But road to Hell, good intentions, yada, yada, yada.
Relaying your observations to thousands upon thousands of people with no evidence other than your own eyes is not journalism. It’s advocacy. Let’s not get the two mixed up.
MM’s own eyes betrayed her and that’s why she’s taking so much flak from all sides. On one hand, good journalists and advocates make mistakes trying to advance a story. On the other hand, they usually admit their mistakes instead of attacking Ezra Klein.
BTW, if you want the ultimate example of awkward confrontational journalism, check out this video of the Carl Monday saga. This should cheer everyone up.
watershed (#37 and #42)
I don’t remember MM saying that the estimated value of the house had anything to do with what they paid for it. I know that you don’t agree that they should sell their house of 20 years to pay for the medical expenses, but don’t confuse the issue that was being brought up when the value of the house was mentioned. The point was the value of the assets the family held. I don’t believe the claim was made that they wasted money on a $300,000 home instead of buying insurance
#51
Describing the house from a car doesn’t add any facts in terms of their assets. Journalists work with facts.
(And I disagree, there was certainly strong implication about their means as well.)
Dear Watercloset,
My initial assessment was correct…you’re a waste of time.
Needless to say, MM reported what the Frosts paid for both the properties they own.
She reported the estimated market value (appreciated over time) of those properties.
See, those are different. Duh.
She reported (truthfully) that they drive three EXPENSIVE late-model vehicles.
Nobody I know said, suggested, hinted, or implied that the Frosts were 1) rich, or 2) liars.
What was (truthfully) said was they were hardly in dire straights, had a REPORTED income at the national median, were by choice under-employed, owned assets that many do not, and were STILL helped by the EXITING government program.
That is very sound reporting, but some which obviously gored your ox, since it shed the light of information on the shadow-puppet theater in which liberals were USING the family as props.
#50
I think my link is wrong. I’m getting three ads for a news program. What am I missing?
#50
…Like Dan Rather, and Media Matters, and Air America, and the Nation, and the NYT, and the LATimes, etc. ad nauseum
#53
She originally described what she saw from a car, and gave her opinion as to the house’s value. This isn’t under dispute. That is NOT journalism. I’m sorry.
Why do so many of of you resort to insults? I have been completely civil.
Watershed,
With respect to the issue of one’s assets, it matters not what they paid for it. What matters is its market value.
With respect to the issue at hand, you really need to take a closer look at the comparisons you use. Driving by someone’s home on a public street is a world away from essentially assaulting a private citizen and harrassing him a foot away.
The compraisions you are using here would be like, hmm, using a family already qualified under SCHIP that may not qualify under SCHIP is assets were taken into account to argue for the expansion of SCHIP to families even less qualified.
Next time you want to chime in, please apply some logic (valid premise plus valid premise = conclusion) to your thought process to avoid looking like a MoveOn plant sent here just to rile the conservatives.
#18 had
How true, how true…
I’ve never had actual TRAINING training with a fire arm (ranges and my grandfather’s back 40 don’t count in my book), I had a buddy drill into my head the triple tap. Two to the chest, one to the head.
On the off chance your attacker is wearing some kind of body armor (not impossible, it’s possible to buy it these days), the third one to the head is generall going to be effective.
Never draw a weapon unless you need to use it, and are fulling intending on using it. Waving it around “for effect” just gets it taken away from you.
This reminds me, dad wants to take me gun shopping. Need a lower-end pistol for the house (I love Sigs, but I don’t need a 600 dollar gun for home defense).
As usual the trolls are twisting the facts to meet their world view.
And actually, watershed and RUSTY, as to “Relaying your observations to thousands upon thousands of people with no evidence other than your own eyes is not journalism. It’s advocacy. Let’s not get the two mixed up.”
Yes, yes it is journalism. That is why journalism is also called REPORTING. Remember the old “just the facts ma’am”. Reporting EXACTLY what you see, hear, smell, touch, taste is journalism. Giving your opinion on what you think those FACTS mean is editorializing. The main stream media and the liberals are unable to recognize the difference if the journalist agrees with their point of view.
Looks like Aguilar has been suspended indefinitely.
The man has one heck of a lwasuit against Aguilar and Fox. False imprisonment, harrassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress. Not to mention that there are probably some criminal charges that can be lodged against Aguilar.
Jim M.
Not to be a wise donkey…but no, no cause of action exists under Texas law for what she was doing.
#59
Sorry, this shouldn’t be under dispute. Journalism has a very clear definition, and MM’s opinion is not one of the five W’s. (Who, what, where, when and why.) It’s speculation. It’s guessing. It’s NOT journalism.
Accuracy and fact are the hallmarks of proper journalism.
The Democrats were deceiving everyone about the Frost family from the beginning. They were implying that this particular family that was helped by this program, would not be helped now because Bush vetoed the children.
This is a load of crap. The Frosts were covered under the S-CHIP program as it currently exists, Bush’s veto of the Democrat expansion of who the program covers would not have denied the Frosts. They are covered without the Democrats expanding the program to 25 yr old “children”.
Bush wants to expand the funding for S-CHIP by $4 Billion, but keep the focus on people who are actually poor and actually children. The Democrats want to use S-CHIP to get people who could take care of themselves on the government dole, thus dependant on electing Democrats. That’s what this is really all about. The Democrats chose their human shields poorly. Michelle exposed that, because none of the MSM will ever report anything that conflicts with Congressional Democrat legislative agenda.
You guys trying to play “gotcha” with Michelle on this are out of your league. Just like Media Matters, you have to distort and misrepresent what the story is about so you can scream that “Michelle screwed up, no one can ever trust anything she says from now on, ever!”
Sorry, not gonna work here. Most of us know what the score is. Liberals lose again.
Jim aready covered the “Asset isn’t what you paid, it’s the actual value” bit…
I would be interested in what the city values the proporty at for taxs.
For Watershed’s benifit, I’ll draw a “price paid =/= value” comparison.
Lets say I buy a used car. The owner pretty much took great care of it, it’s fairly new, so there’s nothing wrong with it, but they don’t need it, and since they paid it off already (thanks to excellent spending practices and wise use of funds), they just wanna sell it.
I pay them $10,000, plus the fees for transfering a title and getting plates, and I have a new (to me) car.
7 months later, I look up the Kelly Bluebook value. Turns out the thing values in at $15,000.
I don’t have a $10,000 asset, I have a $15,000 asset.
Make sense?
watershed -
Nice to see you up to your same tactics.
Everybody else:
In case you haven’t encountered watershed before, know this: He will NOT stay on topic, but rather loves to cherry pick single lines from comments, divert the topic as far off thread as he can and still stay connected to it (notice how he’s already got this one pointed towards the Frost family and SCHIP?), and when all else fails (i.e., you use logic and reason in an attempt to debate), he starts crying the following:
1)Why are you so mean to me?
2)I know I’m framed as a KOOK MOONBAT.
3)All you conservatives are just a bunch of mean doo-doo heads.
Please don’t feed the troll. Unless you want hours and hours of otherwise harmless entertainment. In which case, feed away.
It’s almost Halloween…..the ghosts of trolls past are making their presence known…. oooooooooooooooooooo
Some of you will understand my comment.
As to comparing this situation with an O’Reilly reporter asking for an explanation from a sitting Judge - there is no comparison.
This old man defended his property and life through use of force. Legally. He is a private citizen and holds no office or position from which he is held accountable to the public.
ON the other hand…. a sitting Judge who rules in a ridiculous manner IS accountable to the public he serves - and therefore is open to a hard-line of questioning by reporters. THAT is not harrassment.
Simply because the MSM reporters never ask those Judges about why they didn’t give a reasonable sentence to a child molester - doesn’t mean that if a Fox Reporter does it, it’s harrassment.
#57
Don’t you see how a wild guess at a house’s value from a car can only add to the speculation over the Frost’s needs?
If it were (I don’t know, who DON’T you trust implicitly), Dan Rather, giving his opinion as to the house’s value, would you give it as much creedence? Or would you wait until the real facts were in?
Watershed - you better send word of that to the MSM which is mostly editorialized facts on a regular basis - performed through innuendo, distortion, omission or slight-of-hand.
#52
There was talk of their means in this whole thing, but you are still distorting facts in posts #37 and #42… when she talked about the estimated worth of their house, she never said that had anything to do with what they paid for it.
You keep talking about what the Frosts paid. I don’t remember hearing anyone claim that they paid $300,000, just that the house could now be worth that much.
Everyone please note;
Watercloset was asked for numbers showing how MM “got it wrong”.
Nothing.But.More.BS in response.
What it’s worth is one of the “w”s. Duh, again.
Watershed:
From 10-12-07, Michelle’s statement in one thread:
$160,000 paid for the commercial property…. Home bought for $55,000.
Is that not accurate?
I saw this on HA this morning and posted this comment:
I think that everyone involved in this piece of idiotic “reporting” needs to be suspended or fired.
#69
I say again that their was a definite implication of the Frost’s means. Remember, this site and the freepers originally went under the impression that the Frosts were lying, and until all the FACTS came out, it was assumed here they paid $20K for school, and that their house was worth $400K.
Driving past a house and adding to the assumptions is not jounalism. I don’t know why this is being argued.
#71
I’m referring to this one:
“I also passed by the Frosts’ rowhouse. There was an “01 - 20 -09″ bumper sticker plastered on the door and a newer model GMC Suburban parked directly in front of the house. I’ve seen guesstimates of the house’s worth in the $400,000-plus range. Those are high.”
Not a fact about their house’s value now, or then, or anytime, in the whole thing. No journalism there.
jrlingreenbay (#66) -
Thanks for posting back on topic and making an excellent point. Public figures open themselves up to more scrutiny than private citizens.
Aguilar may not have been out of line to approach Mr. Walton and ask for an interview, but his requests for privacy should have been respected. He did not act illegally and so he doesn’t have to answer questions about this.
Watershed -
Please try to stay on topic here. If you want to discuss the Frosts, please go back to that thread. There are many fine points you can address there, instead of ducking out while that thread is still active.
#64
And if I drove past your car and said it LOOKS like a 20K car, and report that, am I being a journalist?
The difference is that judges are public officials and are accountable to the public, unlike the private citizen in this situation. Judges are supposed to explain their actioons, so if they try to dodge the issue, I think a reporter has the right to push for an answer. But harrassing a private citizen like this reporter did is wrong.
#76
I wrote a truly enormous response on that thread to the the dozens of posts I got. I would hardly call that “ducking”. (I even mentioned you, with a sense of comradery.)
Just sickening. This reporter should have been fired on the spot.
#74
But in that statement she’s correcting the high “guesstimates.” Last time you and I discussed this (in a thread actually devoted to the topic of SCHIP and the Frosts) you complained that she was claiming $400,000 as the worth and were upset by her high estimates. Now you’re complaining about how she corrected the high figures?
# 76
And I would say that journalism, and its many facets, including MM’s own attempts at it, IS the topic of this thread.
Watershed,
I notice you don’t address the issue and substance of what THIS reporter did in this story and now seem to want to talk about MM reporting techniques in a completely different story.
You want to talk about the Frost case? We have a different post and thread for that.
My guess? You are a liberal using the standard deflect from the issue or person and blame the messenger or point to a different issue. I am surprised you have not mentioned President Bush yet to point the discussion that way.
#80
It’s still a guess, the opposite of journalism. I ask again, what if Dan Rather gave his opinion of the house’s value? is that journalism?
watershed, get a clue. I’ll be praying for you.
Hey - don’t ply me with facts or logic. I’m here to obfuscate.
#82
I said at the top that I disliked any agressive reporter with a mike and camera. We are talking about journalism, aren’t we?
Dan Rather isn’t the best example…
watershed -
Truly enormous? Not really all that long at all. Mostly whining about what a big bunch of doo-doo heads conservatives are, and somewhat short on substance.
To the actual points you did address, you have several persons who left you questions - including a post of my own. Quite frankly, I’d love to see your responses to the many questions that await you on that thread.
#88
I’m kind of busy here right now, but I will get to it, sure. Thanks for your interest!
#84
Ok, thanks.
watershed -
Please explain something.
When the topic was Rebecca Aguilar’s reporting, you wanted to change the issue to Bill O’Reilly’s reporting.
When people responded to that, you switched the topic to MM and her reporting on the Frosts.
Once you successfully got everyone talking about that, you brought up Dan Rather…
What is going on here? What is it that you really want to talk about? I must say, you seem unwilling to participate in a thread if there’s no chance for you to twist facts in order to bash MM, BO, etc…
Watershed, the link works for me. Google “Carl Monday” and you will get the gist of the video.
Also, I love how people treat assets like fluid money. Like selling a house and moving somewhere else is the easiest, most convenient thing in the world.
What a freakin’ howler!
This statement is so obviously not true!
Dan Rather…..fake, but accurate
Newsweek…Koran flushed at Club Gitmo riots in Afghanistan kills dozens, story not true in the least, NEVER HAPPENED.
Dateline NBC… pickup truck supposed to blow up when gas tank is struck in collision, won’t detonate after multiple tries, so THE JOURNALISTS PLANT CHARGES AND ROLL THE CAMERAS!
Journalists have a pre-ordained idea of what a story they want to tell is supposed to do. If the facts(square peg) don’t fit the desired outcome(round hole), just chisel off the corners, and hammer that baby in there!
the list goes on and on…..
Supreme Court
Iraq War
Blackwater
Justice Department
Domestic Terror Attacks thwarted
KATRINA!!!
The pre-ordained agenda of most journalists determines what makes news and what does not. I have no respect for our modern “journalists”, they are not above just flat out lying to smear someone they don’t like, or are threatened by.
Michelle is trained as a journalist, worked as a journalist, and is a better journalist that most journalists. What she does now is opinion columnist/blogger, with mad J-skillz(for the kids). We need that, because most journalists are doing the same thing, they just will never, ever admit that their opinions cloud their reporting.
Michelle is upfront about from where she approaches the issues. No hiding behind the “journalistic objectivity” that allows regular reporters to editorialize, and sometimes downright propagandize the public, while denying the agenda that drives them. It’s just dishonest what our MSMers are doing to us, and the answer is more agenda journalism from the other side, only it’s clearly presented for what it is. Conservative Opinion Journalism.
This reporter in Dallas, she was doing exactly what most other reporters do. The local story she was covering gave her an excuse to demonize someone who saved their own life with their 2nd Amendment rights. She obviously opposes the 2nd Amendment, and dislikes those who support it.
So as an “objective journalist” she could not resist blending the Aguilar Factor into this “straight news” report. Only problem is, the broadcast isn’t called the Aguilar Factor, it’s the local news.
Also, Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas might not be the most accomodating market for anti-2nd Amendment local news.
Bottom line is, Michelle rocks!
Um, this story is up on this site because of the flak MM is taking over the Frost scenario. Duh.
Both are examples of mistakes. As was Dan Rather if you want to go there. So was Carl Monday.
Rusty -
I don’t think anyone said it would be easy or convenient.
I’ll be holding my breath.
Not.
Watershed,
Sorry, Jouranlistic Investigating and Reporting does require speculation, questions, hypotheses, validating etc. Performing that is due diligence in order to report as accurately as is possible to the public. Journalism is not some robotic function of simply listing facts, all though thats part of it. The sum of facts do not equal truth.
If a journalist has been inaccurate despite due diligence, then they need to correct it. The MSM is notorious for not performing that due diligence and/or performing investigation from a preconceived premise, while ignoring facts and points that undermine their premise, and only reporting that which supports their premise.
In that construct, explain to me how MM has been less than journalistic.
JW2….I’m completely surprised you don’t see the connection. It’s just like in a different thread when I mentioned that to some connections are concrete things but to others it’s rather much like not paying your electric bill and then wondering if corn flakes soak up more milk than cherrios. Very connected.
Rusty: I like how “assets” are treated as not money. I’ll just change my dollar bills to assets and then - look - I have no money. DUH