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By Michelle Malkin  •  October 18, 2007 07:34 AM

This. (Background here.)

Since the reporter is Hispanic and arrogantly anti-gun, though, you’re not likely to hear a peep from the army of left-wing Concern Trolls.

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Glenn Reynolds observes:

I was struck by reporter Rebecca Aguilar’s body-language, literally standing over him in judgment with tailored suit and umbrella. The way she looked down, literally and figuratively, on an old man who had defended his life, entirely legally, and reduced him to tears seems to me to be representative of the worst stereotypes of Old Media. Then, when she belatedly realizes that she’s coming across like a bully — because, you know, she is — she retreats into faux-sympathy and the laughable claim that she’s just helping him get his side of the story out. It’s like something out of a local-tv parody on The Simpsons. Yet her webpage suggests that she’s on the side of the “little guy.”

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  1. #101
    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:44 am, JW2 said:

    #98 -

    Which does soak up more milk, I’ve been dying to know?

  2. #102
    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:44 am, max said:

    Watershed exhibits a typical liberal failing — “innumeracy” — inability to understand and equate numbers with reality, but eager at the same time to twist statistics to suit his argument….

  3. #103
    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:46 am, governmentdrone said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:37 am, Rusty said:

    Also, I love how people treat assets like fluid money. Like selling a house and moving somewhere else is the easiest, most convenient thing in the world.

    Easy? No. Do-able? You bet. Done all the time.

    Just another example of the liberal mind-set. “I can’t be expected to take any initiative and care for myself. It might be too hard, or take too much time, or require some sort of effort or responsibility on my part. No, by golly, that’s what the government is there for. I should be fed and my diapers changed cradle - to - grave.”

    John Edwards is right. There are two Americas. He’s just wrong about what constitutes the two.

  4. #104
    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:48 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Rusty,
    There are two sides to every coin. Thanks for your one-sided view of it though…

    You’ll have to forgive those of us who don’t take kindly to being strongarmed by the government because families shouldn’t be “inconvenienced” when their actions non-action comes back to haunt them.

    Enough with this…it’s hopeless. Like a penny with a hole in it.

  5. #105
    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:52 am, Ragspierre said:

    max said:

    Watershed exhibits a typical liberal failing — “innumeracy” — inability to understand and equate numbers with reality, but eager at the same time to twist statistics to suit his argument….

    As Monty Burns would say…“EEEExcellent!”

  6. #106
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:06 am, Brian72 said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 10:48 am, 30 pcs of silver

    Rusty,
    There are two sides to every coin. Thanks for your one-sided view of it though…

    Shhhhhh!!!!!! Don’t tell Congress there are two sides to every coin! Then they will conclude both sides of every coin are taxable, for the children.

  7. #107
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:08 am, pressto said:

    Um, this story is up on this site because of the flak MM is taking over the Frost scenario. Duh.

    Both are examples of mistakes. As was Dan Rather if you want to go there. So was Carl Monday.

    Thanks for proving my point and make sure you don’t forget to put your tinfoil hat on this morning.

  8. #108
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:12 am, conservativesRus said:

    Back to the topic at hand - reporting. Am I correct that when a “reporter” doesn’t comply with the wishes of the “reportee”, then it’s harassment?

  9. #109
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:16 am, jah said:

    Shhhhhh!!!!!! Don’t tell Congress there are two sides to every coin! Then they will conclude both sides of every coin are taxable, for the children.

    ROTFLM(bleep)O (I never use the A word, wife smacks me if I cuss *smile*)

    pause, collect thoughts

    Oh wait you’re serious!

    That’s the scary part, if they could figure out how to do it they would.

  10. #110
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:18 am, JW2 said:

    What I witnessed in the video certainly looked like harassment.

    Isn’t it also true that when a “reporter” asks a loaded question such as, “Are you a trigger happy kind of person?” she is no longer truly reporting?

  11. #111
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:20 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Brian72,

    :-)

    Got.To.Be.More.Careful

  12. #112
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:21 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    Am I correct that when a “reporter” doesn’t comply with the wishes of the “reportee”, then it’s harassment?

    Not if you’re a liberal reporter - then it’s Hard-Nosed Journalism.

  13. #113
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:23 am, Brian72 said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:16 am, jah said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:20 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Maybe the Democrats will raise taxes on everyone and you can apply to the S-CHIP program for a new keyboard:)

  14. #114
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:24 am, jah said:

    Back to the topic at hand - reporting. Am I correct that when a “reporter” doesn’t comply with the wishes of the “reportee”, then it’s harassment?

    No, now let me clarify this for you. Harassment is when a conservative blogger/reporter/columnist/hot babe (forgive me couldn’t help myself) drives by someone’s house/investment property to determine the veracity of the claims they are making.

    Good reporting is when a Liberal reporter traps a 70 year old man in his car and asks if he is a trigger happy meanie after misundertood youth’s

  15. #115
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:29 am, Ragspierre said:

    So…

    Gotcha stalking of private citizen by on-camera “reporter”, followed by agenda-driven accusations disguised as questions, reducing traumatized victim of outlaws to tears.

    =

    Boots on ground fact gathering trip of MM, wherein nobody is harrassed, stalked, or anything of the kind.

    =

    O’Reilly on-camera confrontation with sitting judges (i.e, public servants and public people), asked to justify decisions to the public.

    That math only works in the demento world of liberalism.

  16. #116
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:37 am, tony the tiger said:

    Trolls at it again this morning, eh?

    Pray for this guy - he’s suffered a traumatic event TWICE in less than a month.

    The reporter, on the other hand, has demonstrated a popular bias… too bad we cannot rely upon the news media to report in a Fair and Balanced format.

  17. #117
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:42 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:37 am, tony the tiger said:
    Trolls at it again this morning, eh?

    Yup - I swear Michelle must have spent the night building a bridge because they’ve moved in pretty quickly today.

    ( This is a ‘Billy Goats Gruff’ reference, for those of you from Rio Linda )

  18. #118
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:43 am, conservativesRus said:

    #101 JW2. Since it’s for “the children” - we need a federal study to find out.

  19. #119
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:49 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    The TRUE reporter would have been investigating what’s behind West Dallas’ crime problem and why this guy has been attacked twice in two weeks resulting in him having to defend himself to this point.

    Where’s the law-enforcement presence?

    Is it gangs?

    You don’t question an old man who defended himself as to whether or not he’s ‘Trigger-Happy’.

  20. #120
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am, Brian72 said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:42 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    Yes, the trolls are out today! I’ve equated it to football, of course. The media has called a fire blitz on our QB Michelle, and I’ve been playing fullback, sometimes advancing the ball, sometimes throwing a crushing block, picking up the blitz. Nice to have Farve on the team!

  21. #121
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am, feebiebabe said:

    We’ve got a new troll in town.

    “whitewater”. you are all over the place my dear.

    This lady is a jerk and a bully with a mic. I am glad she has been suspended.

    As for the 70 year old man. My friends, better the intruders then him. I would have made the same decision to protect my life or the life of my family. Period.

    I hope I never have to kill anyone EVER. But make no mistake, I would have ZERO problem pulling the trigger to preserve life.

    Sorry, isn’t this common sense???

  22. #122
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am, TMoney said:

    This twit is another reason I hate interviews. They put a kind old man - a veteran, I guess - in the most uncomfortable position possible, trying to get a death-sentence type cofession from an innocent victim.

    Why wasn’t she interviewing the relatives - Mom or Dad - of the criminals? ‘Did you raise your son to be a scum-sucking swine?’ ‘Do you have other children that you are teaching to steal?’ ‘How much did you make begging on the street today?’

    Toro poopoo.

  23. #123
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:53 am, Brian72 said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am, TMoney said:

    Toro poopoo.

    BullS-CHIP!

  24. #124
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:54 am, feebiebabe said:

    TMoney:

    This twit is another reason I hate interviews. They put a kind old man - a veteran, I guess - in the most uncomfortable position possible, trying to get a death-sentence type cofession from an innocent victim.

    Exactly. In manner of Bowling for Columbine, Mike M, and Charlton Heston.

    MADE ME SICK! No respect for elders.

    You know, It may behoove these people to take a step back and drop their judgment down a notch and give these folks the benefit of having lived just a “little” longer then them and in harder times no less. Who is she to past judgment on him?

    PS, her suit is hideous!!!

  25. #125
    On October 18th, 2007 at 11:55 am, almeehan said:

    It seems watershed has washed out such a deep rut, they can’t get out of it. I thought maybe the repeat key was stuck or something.
    God bless Mr. Walton. If things don’t turn around in this country soon, regarding criminal, government or other oppressions threatening our freedom and security, we may be reading a lot more about Mr Walton types exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

  26. #126
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:30 pm, bipartisancomplainer said:

    Do you think watershed has managed to change anybody’s mind with the 1000 comments?

    Didn’t think so. *yawn*

    Sorry, there’s no choir here to preach to. You’ll have to do better than that.

  27. #127
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:33 pm, walterc said:

    God bless Mr Walton and his family. They have him for another day due to his willingness to protect himself and his property.

    The question that should be asked is, what if he had been an anitgun left wing nut case? Would he be alive after two break ins to complain about the lack of police protection? Would he be alive to complain about too many guns on the street? Would he or his widow be complaining that there are not enough opportunities for these people, forcing them to turn to a life of crime?

    No, it would be George Bushes fault for starting a war in Iraq when the military could be here protecting him.

  28. #128
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:39 pm, Rip Ford said:

    I don’t think she should be fired. I think she should be sent to Iraq to conduct a similar interview of Mudhehr Fayadh Baresh to see if she can make a 72-year-old cry because he shot a suicide bomber. Then she should be fired.

  29. #129
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:40 pm, feebiebabe said:

    #128 - Amen

  30. #130
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:42 pm, watershed said:

    #126

    Rational debate should be abandoned simply because I can’t get anyone here to agree with me? I don’t get your point.

  31. #131
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:46 pm, watershed said:

    #121

    I agree, the reporter in this video went over the line. I alo say there is ample example of MM, Bill O’Reilly, et al, doing similarly poor reporting. And very recently, in MM’s case. Glass houses, etc.

    Bad journalists aren’t only liberals, much as that is completely beyond the scope of belief of most posters here.

  32. #132
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:46 pm, Ragspierre said:

    watercloset said:

    I don’t get your point.

    Finally!…a sparkling gem of truth among the acres of BS….!

  33. #133
    On October 18th, 2007 at 12:49 pm, watershed said:

    #115

    I say again, that an assesment of what the Frost’s house LOOKS like it MAY have cost is not jounalistic fact. It’s the opposite.

    And Bill O’Reilly’s producers, much as you maybe agree with what they believe, were very agressive with these judges to the point where the police were called.

  34. #134
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:00 pm, jah said:

    Rational debate should be abandoned simply because I can’t get anyone here to agree with me? I don’t get your point.

    No, rational debate should end when one party has shown themselves to be irrational.

    Example:
    Your basic argument yesterday was that the Frost’s should not have to make any sacrifices because of the tragedy that befell them. Based on the choices they made up to the point of the tragedy that is an irrational and indefensible statement.

    They chose to buy more and larger stuff than they could afford and by afford I mean that once you have those things you NEED to survive, whatever you have left is what you can afford to have that you WANT.

    BEFORE they bought a 3000 sq ft house, 3 large expensive (both in initial cost and in maintenance including cost of gas), investment property, and tried to start a business they NEEDED to insure that they could survive a tragedy, whatever that would be, loss of job, loss of spouse, medical bills, etc.

    That involves having money in the bank, full time jobs for at least one adult member of the family while the other tries to start the business, health and life insurance, house insurance, etc. Until you have those things secure you are not in a position to get the things you want. For example the purchase of the larger than needed house could have been put off until the business was successful, same with the cars.

    Once they made the choice not to be responsible and do the above, then they have no RIGHT to have those of us who did make responsible choices subsidize their irresponsibility.

    This is one example of illogical and irrational debate.

  35. #135
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:06 pm, Jim M. said:

    Did I miss the news about some major bridges collapsing?

    The reason I ask is that trolls, who would otherwise be gainfully occupied in haunting bridges across the Country, seem to be out in full force today.

    TODAY’s TROLL FORECAST:

    Heavy incidences of troll activity, including steady whining, posturing and nonsensical hyperbole. Intermittment gales of blustery moral superiority with a strong chance of crocodile tear flooding in those low areas of liberal rehtoric.

    If you live in a troll-prone area, plan to seek the shelter of logic and reason.

    …..WARNING……SPEW ALERT FOR RED STATES…..NOXIOUS CLOUDS OF MEANINGLESS RANTING SPOTTED MOVING FROM CALIFORNIA……POTENIALLY TOXIC EFFECTS TO HUMANS INCLUDE DISORIENTATION, LOSS OF ABILITY TO REASON, PANTS WETTING……AVOID CONTACT AND SEEK IMMIDIATE CONSERVATIVE ATTENTION IF SYMPTOMS DEVELOP…………………………
    THIS HAS BEEN A TROLL ALERT PUBLISHED BY THE NATIONAL TROLL SERVICE…….1900 HRS GMT………….

  36. #136
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:09 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Just wondering - should I get insurance at our business for aggressive reports with an agenda that I shoot or should I wait till after and then ask the government to bail me out?

  37. #137
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:09 pm, conservativesRus said:

    oops - reports -> “reporters”

  38. #138
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:11 pm, watershed said:

    #134

    I actually said they shouldn’t have to sell their house or business. That has been blown up into a NO SACRIFICE take.

    I believe them when they say that insurance was too expensive, and that insurance costs closed their business. I say it’s understandable that they and many other families don’t have insurance. I say help them out.

  39. #139
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:12 pm, watershed said:

    #135

    Pretty manic post, guy.

  40. #140
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:12 pm, allie said:

    I picked this up from the Fox News site:

    Malkin began her career in newspaper journalism with the Los Angeles Daily News, where she worked as an editorial writer and weekly columnist from 1992-94. In 1995, she was named Warren Brookes Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. In 1996, she joined the editorial board of the Seattle Times, where she penned editorials and weekly columns for three and a half years.

    I will not take the word of a music teacher as judge of who and what is a journalist.

  41. #141
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm, conservativesRus said:

    #138. You are correct. You didn’t say NO SACRIFICE. You however have not offered the slightest inclination of what sacrifice they should make then. I believe I can speak for all of us on “our side of the debate” when I say we concluded this based on your (willful) silence despite our repeated pleas. Please tell us soon or we will have to again conclude this is what you believe. We are waiting.

  42. #142
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm, jah said:

    Did you actually read what I said, they should not have bought those things in the first place because they could not afford them. Once they did and chose not to take care of their responsibilities then yes they need to sell what they should not have had in the first place and act like adults who are responsible.

    Explain to me why I am responsible for someone elses irresponsible choices. Explain to me why if they did the worng thing they should not be required to set that right themselves.

  43. #143
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:18 pm, watershed said:

    #140

    I’m not saying she isn’t a jounalist, I am saying she is occasionally a bad jounalist, especially when it comes to the drive bys. Qualitative difference there. ;)

  44. #144
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:23 pm, watershed said:

    #142

    I am saying what you call irresponsible, I call many times over unavoidable. Something around 42 million people are without insurance. Are ALL these fellow Americans simply irresponsible, or could there be something to the claim that’s it exorbitantly expensive?

  45. #145
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:25 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    MM’s own eyes betrayed her

    How so Rusty? And please give actual quotations and/or numbers.

  46. #146
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:26 pm, JW2 said:

    #144 -

    Do you consider it to always be a case of unavoidability, or are some people actually irresponsible? Was it unavoidable in this case (the Frosts)?

  47. #147
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:27 pm, jah said:

    A) You did not answer the question you ducked it. You did not explain why I am responsible for irresponsible choices others made.

    B) No not everyone with out insurance is irresponsible, but the Frost’s were. They had the means to get insurance they chose to do other things. Please justify someone buying a 3000 sq ft home, 3 cars and trying to start a business and not buying insurance. Also answer this, could they have bought a 2000 sq ft home, 2 smaller cars and held off on the business till they were more finacially sound and bought insurance?

  48. #148
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:31 pm, Jim M. said:

    Something around 42 million people are without insurance.

    Bet that well over half that number includes illegal immigrants. Plus, that number (which sounds like it came from a MoveOn talking script) does not take into account the people already covered by SCHIP in its current form.

    Why don’t we get back on topic here? I am truly sorry about what happened to your bridge, but if you monitor the Department of Transportation website you may get first dibs on a brand new one.

    Oh, just one question: As a teacher, what is your health coverage like? Probably pretty good. Nice to have the taxpayers pick that up for you, isn’t it?

  49. #149
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:32 pm, watershed said:

    #146

    I am sure there is ample example of both. And I think, yes, in this case, their financial situation was indeed unavoidable. So did the state of Maryland, who awarded them the help.

    They actually had insurance, if you recall, up until they say the exorbitant costs made them shut down their business. They apparently took a pretty nasty hit.

  50. #150
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:35 pm, watershed said:

    #147

    Again, I am disgreeing with your premise that they were irresponsible. No ducking from me. ;)

    See 149, it’s valid for what your saying as well.

  51. #151
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:35 pm, right_on said:

    FACT: Bad guys break in to occupied private property at night. (Key words here people: occupied; night) QUESTION: What normally happens to the clueless, unarmed victim, when they confront “bad guys” during the commission of burglary? ANSWER: (a) they are murdered, (b) they are raped, (c) they are beaten, or (d) all the above?

    Anyone breaking in to my castle, in the dead of night, has nothing but malicious intent, and will be met with lethal force. Period!!! In this matter, I am not willing to accept a “what if?” scenario.

    What these liberal clowns don’t seem to understand, is that (1) burglary is not committed by “occasional” perpetrators; (2) burglars breaking into an occupied property, at night, are prepared to kill the occupant, if discovered; and (3) if the victim only shoots to wound, the criminal, in many cases, winds up suing the victim.

    Can you imagine the MSM uproar had this poor man used an AR-15, or other “black” gun, instead of a scattergun?

    As far as the alleged illegal alien goes, what is the difference between him breaking in to this country illegally, and him breaking in to the private property? Both acts were/are illegal, and his intent was clearly to obtain things to which he was not entitled.

    This poor old guy should be celebrated, and supported for exercising his God-given rights as a citizen of this great country.

  52. #152
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:35 pm, jah said:

    Unfortunately it is again time to move on for the day, work calls. Good day everyone

  53. #153
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:37 pm, JW2 said:

    jah -

    Don’t be silly, watershed never ducks questions.

  54. #154
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:37 pm, watershed said:

    #148

    I’m still reeling from your post 135, don’t know when I’ll ever recover.

  55. #155
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:37 pm, right_on said:

    HEY!! Who hijacked the thread?

  56. #156
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:43 pm, watershed said:

    #155

    I think you’ll see a discussion about reporting until about post #134, when it got sidetracked.

  57. #157
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:44 pm, Jim M. said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:37 pm, watershed said:
    #148

    I’m still reeling from your post 135, don’t know when I’ll ever recover.

    Perhaps your taxpayer funded health care covers the vapors.

    Oh, just one question: As a teacher, what is your health coverage like? Probably pretty good. Nice to have the taxpayers pick that up for you, isn’t it?

  58. #158
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:48 pm, JW2 said:

    watershed (#156) -

    “when it got sidetracked” is pretty loose language considering that you are the one that kept steering things toward MM’s reporting. I think this thread was headed away from the point long before #134.

  59. #159
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:49 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    watershed, are you going to keep beating a dead horse?

    We don’t agree with you about MM’s reporting on the Frosts financial situation, we don’t agree with you regarding S-CHIP, period.

    As it currently stand S-CHIP will not be expanded…MOVEON!

  60. #160
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:49 pm, watershed said:

    #157

    I am confused, Jim W., is that a personal jab at me, rather than a point about anything to do with well, anything?

    I am a music teacher, and I own and run my own music school. I’m sure you saw that quoted around here a few times, right?

    What’s that about taxpayers money? Please elaborate. ;)

  61. #161
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:50 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Jim M, good stuff, keep it comin’…

  62. #162
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:50 pm, watershed said:

    #159

    We disagree, and I thought we were debating sides. Is that allowed?

  63. #163
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:52 pm, watershed said:

    #158

    MM herself made the comparison first. Not me!

  64. #164
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, JW2 said:

    #163

    MM made the point that her non-invasive reporting was termed harrassment while Ms. Aguilar (who everyone here agrees was harrassing Mr. Walton) gets her harrassment broadcast on the news as “journalism.”

  65. #165
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I wonder if the troll has health insurance for the kids.

  66. #166
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Is that what you are doing, debating?

    Sorry, my mistake.

  67. #167
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    My bad - OT.

    Has anyone seen this reporter and Geraldo in the same room at the same time? I thought not…

  68. #168
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm, watershed said:

    #164

    I believe the word was “stalking”.

    Regardless, she opened up the door for discussion of her reporting style with that comparison, don’t you agree?

  69. #169
    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm, Jim M. said:

    A private music school? That is great, but just to be clear - as a “private” school, you receive no federal or state money in any form, correct? And of course, all of your students pay out of pocket and do not rely on any government sponsored programs for grants, loans or other forms of direct or indirect remuneration, correct?

    The reason I brought it up is that it goes to your credibility, and frankly, I was searching for some logical reason as to why someone who claims to have a college degree cannot seem to demonstrate the ability for a linear or logic based thought process.

  70. #170
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:00 pm, watershed said:

    #166

    That’s OK.

  71. #171
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:02 pm, watershed said:

    #169

    No, you brought it up as a personal jab. Whatev.

    I like your tweaky all caps “RED STATE TROLL ALERT” posts better, anyway. Do more of those!

  72. #172
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:03 pm, mojoe said:

    Drudge is reporting that the “journalist” has been suspended.

  73. #173
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:07 pm, JW2 said:

    #168 -

    I suppose that’s true, this thread is meant to be about how the left called MM a stalker for a simple drive down a public road and how this “reporter” is truly harrassing.

    I do still think that this thread was being pulled toward a discussion of the Frosts before #134, but the blame for that is on more than just watershed - I too engaged in “debate” on that topic.

    My apologies, watershed.

  74. #174
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:10 pm, watershed said:

    #173

    Thanks, JW2. I appreciate the honesty.

    I believe we can disagree without resorting to the fallback term troll. I simply have a different opinion than you. But that’s cool. It’s an American thing. :)

  75. #175
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:12 pm, right_on said:

    I wonder if the MSM will report about the 72 yr. old Iraqi patriot who did his duty and shot and blew up a suicide vest-wearing bomber? http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/72-year-old-iraqi-man-takes-out-suicide.html

    Can’t you just hear the questions? “How can you live with yourself, knowing you just killed a ‘loyal’ Muslim?” “Don’t you think he might have been carrying those explosives to go fishing, so that he could provide for his family?” “How does it make you feel, knowing that his family will now, in all likelihood, starve?”

  76. #176
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:19 pm, conservativesRus said:

    FWIW - Although I have a couple of masters degrees in engineering and business, I had to give up because I was completely unable to follow the logic of some of the liberal posters here. Amongst the members here we also have a person doing CFD (rather technical discipline) - and from the posts, I conclude they are unable to follow the logic either. I would posit that either the logic is so highly involved that we are unable to comprehend it or that it’s non-existent. Only two possibilities which I see.

  77. #177
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:24 pm, Jim M. said:

    I think I see what the problem is here. Watershed is part of our current system of education. He is a music teacher, not an English teacher. Now, if we cannot expect children to understand English, we cannot expect music teachers to understand it either.

    We must speak to watershed in his native tongue - mewbonics:

    Watershed,

    What trebles you? You seem to bass your arguments things you reed into the posts here, not what is noted. Accordianly , please refrain from trumpeting the same sour notes; you are bassooning things way out of scale. You are really going over the cleff with such bowed logic. Every GoodBoy Does Fine so long as they honestly FACE the music. Stop tooting MoveOn’s horn, and beat your own drum.

  78. #178
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:36 pm, mojoe said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:24 pm, Jim M. said:
    Pretty sharp!

  79. #179
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:37 pm, mojoe said:

    Or should I say, A sharp observation.

  80. #180
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:38 pm, Jim M. said:

    He’s not going to get much sympathy symphony here!

  81. #181
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:40 pm, mojoe said:

    Too much sax and violins in this thread for me.

  82. #182
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:41 pm, mojoe said:

    Let’s hope it’s a temporary thing.

  83. #183
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:43 pm, mojoe said:

    Who knew things wood wind up like this?

  84. #184
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:43 pm, watershed said:

    LOL. Who hijacked this thread?

    :)

  85. #185
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:44 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    All watershed wants to do is clarinet a few things for us that we obviously don’t understand about libs.

  86. #186
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:48 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Too bad he doesn’t know the score

  87. #187
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Tip-troll through the tulips…

  88. #188
    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:59 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:48 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    Too bad tuba he doesn’t know the score

    There I fixed it for ya. :-)

  89. #189
    On October 18th, 2007 at 3:19 pm, governmentdrone said:

    watershed:

    Quit being a troll and answer the questions that were put to you:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm, Jim M. said:
    A private music school? That is great, but just to be clear - as a “private” school, you receive no federal or state money in any form, correct? And of course, all of your students pay out of pocket and do not rely on any government sponsored programs for grants, loans or other forms of direct or indirect remuneration, correct?

    Also, you have been asked whether or not you have yourself and/or family (if you have one) insured.

    I didn’t ask these questions. Others did. But I would like to see you answer them.

    However, given your pattern of posts on this blog, I have no hope that you actually will answer. Frankly, I expect something along the lines of . . .

    “Why, that’s personal information and quite frankly, I can’t see where it has anything to do with any of the debates we have been having.” When you know darned well it has everything to do with the “debates” (oops, sorry, question and evasion sessions) we’ve been having.

    Prove me wrong. I dare you.

  90. #190
    On October 18th, 2007 at 3:19 pm, governmentdrone said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 2:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    Tip-troll through the tulips…

    ROFL! You win the thread AlohaGuy!

  91. #191
    On October 18th, 2007 at 3:22 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    There I fixed it for ya.

    Thanks 30, how’d I miss that? :0

    Now I feel downbeat, it’s Bach to work….

  92. #192
    On October 18th, 2007 at 5:07 pm, watershed said:

    #189

    Does it really? My personal information has anything to do with a debate? I find that a curious charge. That’s just how the MM fans think about things I guess.

    I will answer only because I’m proud. ;) I started my own music school from scratch without any help, cause I’m just that MFing good, and take the little one’s money to show them how its done. I’m quite successful.

    Here’s one for you. Does Rush Limbaugh’s deferment from the military preclude him from discussing the war? Liberals sometimes throw the “chickenhawk” charge around, and think it makes sense that shouldn’t have any say about war. Do you agree?

    If not, (which I am just gonna guess is your answer) why would my personal situation have anything to do with what I think about this issue?

  93. #193
    On October 18th, 2007 at 6:57 pm, dakine said:

    Keep the day jobs boys.

  94. #194
    On October 18th, 2007 at 7:01 pm, Jim M. said:

    On October 18th, 2007 at 6:57 pm, dakine said:
    Keep the day jobs boys.

    Just when you thought the air of self righteous moral superiority that serves as the refuge of small minds could not get any thicker…

  95. #195
    On October 18th, 2007 at 7:38 pm, feebiebabe said:

    This is one funny thread!!!! LMAO

    Waterboy, you do an awful lotta talkin’ for a music teacher….go fiddle with a flute or somethin’ would ya. If you own your own music school, my bet is that your clients aren’t getting their monies worth with you hogging all the threads.

    The number of posts you provide us with (although quite amusing) would suggest you are in serious lack of attention. Perhaps you should invest in a fluffy pet of some kind???

  96. #196
    On October 18th, 2007 at 7:53 pm, Jim M. said:

    Perhaps you should invest in a fluffy pet of some kind???

    Give Ellen DeGeneres a call. I heard she has one to give away.

  97. #197
    On October 18th, 2007 at 8:36 pm, atxcowgirl said:

    This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by KDFW FOX 4 TV

  98. #198
    On October 18th, 2007 at 8:37 pm, watershed said:

    LOL. I guess insults are all that’s left after pointless personal inquiries fail to dig up whatever “credibility” flaws you’re looking for?

    Look anywhere in this or any other thread for any personal mockery of anyone here on this board. In fact look for anywhere where I am less than completely civil. You won’t find one example.

    Many of you have literally directed nothing BUT insults my way.

    I guess that’s par for the course on a site that commonly refers to liberals as “nutroots” and “moonbats”!

    As a liberal, I guess these childish and pointless reactions are what I should expect when I open the site. But as a polite person who expects the same treatment in return, I shouldn’t.

    (Govtdrone’s, “you didnt answer my question, you’re a troll, and you whine too much” post in 3…2…)

  99. #199
    On October 18th, 2007 at 9:23 pm, right_on said:

    watershed said:

    Look anywhere in this or any other thread for any personal mockery of anyone here on this board. In fact look for anywhere where I am less than completely civil. You won’t find one example.

    Many of you have literally directed nothing BUT insults my way.

    I guess that’s par for the course on a site that commonly refers to liberals as “nutroots” and “moonbats”!

    As a liberal, I guess these childish and pointless reactions are what I should expect when I open the site. But as a polite person who expects the same treatment in return, I shouldn’t.

    There ya go, watershed! Not one, but two examples. It’s really tough to respond without casting dispersions, huh?

  100. #200
    On October 18th, 2007 at 9:30 pm, Jim M. said:

    Alto you what, you can C things your rey and keep your symbals of nirvana intact. Sometimes all it is with you liberals is mi, mi, mi.

    Besides, being a music teacher from CO, you’re not a troll, you are a metrognome.

    Need to work on thickening that hide a little. The personal stuff you feel you are subjected to here is very mild.

    By the way, good job building your own business! Not as easy as people think, is it?

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