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1. #150343
   On October 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pm, englishqueen01 said:

   Mark Reilly…said the city should have been involved in the decision…

   By this, I’m hoping he means parents.

   Because I’d be voting “no”, for the health and safety of our daughters.

2. #150349
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:01 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   It is our duty as concerned citizens to remove those members that abuse their authority, ignore their mission and grossly misrepresent the will of the people they serve.”

   Were it said about our Senate.

   I can dream.

3. #150361
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:09 pm, granite said:

   See-Dubya:

   As a New Hampshire boy (hence,
   “granite”), the term I’m most familiar with is Mainiacs (good-natured).

   Moved away a cuppla years ago (what in God’s name was I thinking?!), and am trying mightily to move back home.

   (Don’t ask what the term is that we apply to folks from Mass…..achusetts [perhaps not quite so good-natured]).

4. #150367
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:12 pm, RobSmalls said:

   Michelle – They call themselves Mainers, or perhaps, more accurately, MAYHNAHS!

5. #150394
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:32 pm, 3Steps said:

   As a Maniac err Mainer .. I can’t see it happening. I’d LIKE to see it happen.. but it won’t.

   This state is so blue it’s scarey. Sometimes honestly, seriously, just plain scarey. I used to work for a left wing lobbist.. in my defense I was a secretary/bookkeeper and had no idea what they did before I took the job I thought they were just lawyers… I did meet Hillary Clinton, during Bill’s first campaign.. and she isn’t as cold as she seems. I won’t vote for her but at least 16 years ago she wasn’t the frozen queen she appears to be now.

   Back to topic… Portland is our largest city by far, with 10% of the entire state population, and it is one of the most liberal places this side of San Francisco. The organic wool sweaters and Birkenstocks run wild. The rest of us heathens are just ignorant.

   So I’m going to guess that this will not be repealed. Those of us who disagree will once again be written off as uneducated barbarians and they will continue down the path of socialized medicine and destroying the lives of our children.

6. #150398
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

   What’s an pre-adolescent to do if they can’t get their condoms at school? Only in the wayward mind of a liberal does this crazy stuff happen.

7. #150399
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pm, Laree said:

   B is for Birth control article argument is still going on. They have not gotten to this article. Not only do people in Portland, Maine don’t agree with the School Board decision, they are doing something about it.

8. #150411
   On October 19th, 2007 at 5:59 pm, leepro said:

   #4 3Steps said:

   I used to work for a left wing lobbist.. in my defense I was a secretary/bookkeeper and had no idea what they did before I took the job I thought they were just lawyers… I did meet Hillary Clinton, during Bill’s first campaign.. and she isn’t as cold as she seems.

   Of course she seemed “friendly!” She was visiting her lobbyists’ office, for chrissakes. Why would she be anything other than (*spit*) “warm and squishy?”

   That was a campaign visit, nothing more, nothing less. To the Clintons, smiling and makin’ nice gets you money.

   No offense, but please don’t be so easily fooled.

9. #150413
   On October 19th, 2007 at 6:02 pm, leepro said:

   BACK ON TOPIC

   My children are grown now (thank GOD!), but if either of them had been given drugs by school officials without my permission, you’d have to call out the fire department to put out my blazing trail to the court house!

10. #150415
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:05 pm, granite said:

    Leepro:

    Ours are grown now, too.

    And I agree with your statement.

11. #150424
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:19 pm, mike volpe said:

    This is a microcosm of what happens when secular progressives take over. We also saw it in Boulder, Colorado where they invite three speakers to tell kids that it is perfectly all right to try drugs. We all know that San Francisco is the mecca of Secular Progressivism and the list of outrageous things there is too long to mention, though, the latest is the fiasco at the Church.

    It should be noted that this story, the Boulder story, and everything that happens in San Francisco is also the vision that George Soros has for America.

12. #150426
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:22 pm, granite said:

    mike volpe:

    “…is…the vision that George Soros has for America.”

    Correct.

13. #150434
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:34 pm, KW63 said:

    I grew up in Maine and went to college there. I now live in a very Red part of the country, but I still have friends and family who live in Maine. It’s a beautiful state (in July), but its very liberal and very secular. I would be surprised to find out that Portland’s city council is any less liberal/secular than the school board–meaning that I think the school board’s decision will ultimately stand. Maybe they will surprise me. I hope so. I’m a parent of two teenagers and, frankly, I’d blow a gasket if I found out the school was prescribing BCP to them without my knowledge.

    I still can’t quite figure out how I became a conservative–neither can my family or my friends who generally think I’ve lost my marbles. My parents think they failed me!

14. #150435
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:35 pm, judybeth said:

    Children are worth every effort to save them from the “so-called sex experts” who say, “Well some middle school kids say they are sexually active, so everybody must be given birth control-the Pill- and condoms!” The Pill and condoms do not prevent STD’s! Nor do they prevent the mental, psychological, and physical harm that early sexual activity exacts from those who get involved – especially girls! For 20 years, I have worked with pre-adolescent and adolescent girls from the streets who feel “shame, guilt, unlovable,
    useless and hopeless” because they believed the lies of some older teen who said the LOVE word, then used them, and dumped them! Wake-up! The costs of early and teen sexual activity exacts an tremendous toll on children and parents. The whole country is watching Maine to stop the insanity and show the rest of the nation HOW to do that! It should not be a partisan political issue! It is a social and moral issue that must be addressed immediately! Never give up on the children! Please!

15. #150436
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:35 pm, Laree said:

    I hope this doesn’t get swept under the rug. I really would like to know, what brought on this policy change in the first place…why would anyone want to give birth control pills to little girls? What were they reacting to?

16. #150437
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:35 pm, Brian Paasch said:

    We home school our kids. Why?

    Let-me-think……

17. #150447
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:51 pm, granite said:

    Brian Paasch #14:

    Our son and his wife are seriously considering homeschooling their kids.

    So sad….

    I went through the public schools, and I was as well prepared as anyone I came across at the university.

    (The university was also public – state – school, and I found myself as well prepared as any of my classmates at the professional school I went to.)

    The first hint of change/decline (beyond the “new math” of the mid-late 60s) with respect to public education, that I can recall, was when I kept hearing over and over again about the importance to of the “relevance” to the student of the topic being taught (late 60s).

    I recall in the early 70s hearing my mother (who ahd also gone through the public schools) begin to complain how teachers were no longer being backed up, or given the benefit of the doubt, by parents, or even by “the administration”, when situations with students arose.
    She even had money stolen from her pocketbook, and knew who took it; but, of course, got nowhere with that.

    I also seem to recall her saying at that time that discipline of students was beginning to disappear.

    She finally retired from teaching at 54, after ~30 years, saying she had just burned out.

    Home schooliong, while important, is only a half-measure.

    The teachers unions must be broken, for any, meaningful, lasting reform.

18. #150448
    On October 19th, 2007 at 6:52 pm, granite said:

    Whoa…sorry for the typos in the last one.

19. #150460
    On October 19th, 2007 at 7:33 pm, MCPO Airdale said:

    The NEA and their SP cohorts in the school administrations are destroying America. Their weapon of choice; our own children.

20. #150461
    On October 19th, 2007 at 7:33 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Ummm, what is the “age of consent” in that state? Older than eleven?
    This might be kinda like something similar, to something, that might by some people to be considered, you know kinda like a felony.
    Now, I am not saying that being an accomplice, enabler or providing material support to a statutory rape is a crime or anything, I’m just sayin…

21. #150497
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:15 pm, puhiawa said:

    This insistence by liberals of sexualizing children is by projection a form of sexual child abuse. It demonstrates a very unhealthy perspective, almost a voyeurism, by these authorities. There is more than wishful thinking involved here, there is prurient interest.

22. #150513
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:00 pm, atxcowgirl said:

    When did the school board become lawmakers, doctors and pharmacists?

    I have a few questions I haven’t seen addressed in what I’ve read.

    When I was on the pill many years ago I had to have a Pap test once a year before the doc would refill my prescription. Maybe that’s not being done anymore.

    But who is going to check these children out before they start taking the pill? And who is going to take care of them if they develope an adverse reaction to the pill? And does anyone know the long term effects of a child on the pill that hasn’t even started their menses yet? And who is going to pay for the prescription? Are these 11 year olds going to ante up their allowances? Or is it going to come out of the operating fund donated so generously by the local school district taxpayers?

    Details, details. Sorry for the rant!

23. #150565
    On October 20th, 2007 at 12:24 am, StephC said:

    I have an 11 year old daughter, and I find this appalling. I just don’t see how anyone in their right mind would think it’s OK to put an 11 year old on BC. If there is an 11 year old having sex, more than likely it’s because she has been/is being molested and thinks that this is OK. Maybe the school board should be looking into that a little more.

24. #150591
    On October 20th, 2007 at 2:32 am, Rusty said:

    The Pill and condoms do not prevent STD’s!

    Condoms do.

    This insistence by liberals of sexualizing children is by projection a form of sexual child abuse. It demonstrates a very unhealthy perspective, almost a voyeurism, by these authorities. There is more than wishful thinking involved here, there is prurient interest.

    I got into an argument with a loved one over this. We’re both liberal, but this policy makes me uncomfortable. At the very least, the debate proved to me that it isn’t purient interest. People are looking out for these middle schoolers. I just personally think they’re doing so in an inapproproate fashion.

    But to accuse liberals of “purient interest” is way off the mark and unfair.

25. #150600
    On October 20th, 2007 at 3:08 am, puhiawa said:

    “But to accuse liberals of “prurient interest” is way off the mark and unfair.”

    Then I suggest you actually listen to the conversations and review the actions of teachers and liberal educators. They are more than creepy. They clearly have a personal involvement. A very personal involvement.

26. #150659
    On October 20th, 2007 at 9:01 am, misterbee241 said:

    I guess I’m old school, but why is everything about sex now? And how does a school board give itself authority to prescribe medicine to children without the parents permission? How did this start and where does it stop?
    I’m not surprised that pre-teens are having sex. I saw a trailer for Two and a Half Men the other night, and a kid that looked to be about 8 years old was talking about getting laid and erectile dysfunction. That’s why I dont watch the rubbish on the networks, I dont need sex advice from an 8 year old.
    But back to topic. I think what we are seeing is a deliberate attempt to further breakdown the unity and the authority of the family. That’s what socialism is all about and our country is moving very quickly in that direction. Once you have the children, you have the nation. I think Adolf said something to that effect.
    What really bothered me was some of the parents interviewed said they had no problem with that.
    I know things have changed since I was 11 years old, but this is getting scary.

27. #150699
    On October 20th, 2007 at 10:24 am, jeanie said:

    Sadly, Maine has become a very liberal State over the last decade. I used to think that they might be the one State that could maintain the balance between red and blue, but it didn’t happen. It appears that NH might be next. Maybe they’ll be the State of moderation? Stranger things have happened. Am I alone in wishing that politics was not evolving into the extreme left vs the extreme right. Since I am neither, I am finding fewer and fewer places to turn.

28. #150799
    On October 20th, 2007 at 1:33 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    Most of the time when you have a problem, you confront it, try to understand it, and try to solve it. In the great world of Maine and many of the other secular socialist welfare states, you don’t try to solve it you try to accommodate it. Accommodation is really a liberal pathology – and there is little opportunity to cure a problem when the people who practice accommodation somehow think it makes things better. Frankly, politicians love the pathology of accommodation because they can then ride to victory on the back of a victim of accommodation.