Won’t you take me to Chinatown?

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 19, 2007 09:27 AM

hillary clinton china

The Los Angeles Times digs into Hillary’s finances and uncovers more mysterious Chinatown donors with dilapidated addresses in NYC and jobs unlikely to put them in the position of maxing out campaign contributions. They include dishwashers, waiters, contributors who deny making contributions, and another who “admitted to lacking the legal-resident status required for giving campaign money.” And more:

Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated home addresses seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton’s campaign treasury. In April, a single fundraiser in an area long known for its gritty urban poverty yielded a whopping $380,000. When Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) ran for president in 2004, he received $24,000 from Chinatown…

…Of 74 residents of New York’s Chinatown, Flushing, the Bronx or Brooklyn that The Times called or visited, only 24 could be reached for comment.

Will Hillary accuse the Times reporters of “stalking” now?

I like the use of the adjective “ephemeral:”

Like many who traveled this path, most of the Chinese reported as contributing to Clinton’s campaign have never voted. Many speak little or no English. Some seem to lead such ephemeral lives that neighbors say they’ve never heard of them.

Predictions: Hillary will come out swinging at the Times, her Asian-American acolytes will accuse the paper of racism and ethnic bigotry, and those “ephemeral” donors will never be found.

***

Hey, I just remembered something. Remember the story I blogged this summer about Chinese-language ballots in Boston? One Chinese translation of Hillary Clinton’s name:

“Upset Stomach.”

Most fitting today, I imagine.

***

Allah dubs it “Hsu II.”

And once again, the question looms:

Where is the money coming from?

***

Flip Pidot takes note of the rise of the bundler and takes a close look at Hill’s 3Q refunds. Methinks more of those will be on the way.

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Comments


  1. #149801
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:30 am, Marshall Russ said:

    For $1000 you get sweet and sour pork…for $2000 you get egg role..

  2. #149804
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:33 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    Unless someone really digs and reports and these stories gets legs – I mean REAL legs… January of 2009 could mean a real big poo-poo platter for this country.

  3. #149809
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:38 am, swj719AWG said:

    Hsu II?

    Love their music, but Bono gets on my nerves…

  4. #149810
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:39 am, swj719AWG said:

    All these Chinese contributors… Were they trying for “big finish? happy ending?”

  5. #149812
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:41 am, ajmontana said:

    “Hsudough”

  6. #149813
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:41 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Do you smell that?

  7. #149826
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:47 am, pgtips said:

    My brain isn’t working right now, so bear with me. What exactly does this all mean? That the Chinese didn’t contribute? That someone jammed a gun to their heads and forced them to contribute? That Hilary’s donors masked campaign donations as coming from Chinese foreigners?

    It all sounds fishy, but I don’t get it O.o.

  8. #149829
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:48 am, JammieWearingFool said:

    But she cares about the children. Isn’t that all that really matters?

  9. #149838
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:52 am, Tantor said:

    Gosh, what could be fishy about large donations coming from nonexistent nonvoters living at phantom addresses? Hillary has already been co-president in the most ethical administration to date. She wouldn’t use scams to get dirty money to fuel her grandiose ambition from unsavory sources which would embarass her if identified, would she?

    Would she?

  10. #149839
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:53 am, Jim M. said:

    Sounds like Hillary may be taking that Soprano’s spoof to heart:

    Clinton has enlisted the aid of Chinese neighborhood associations, especially those representing recent immigrants from Fujian province. The organizations, at least one of which is a descendant of Chinatown criminal enterprises that engaged in gambling and human trafficking, exert enormous influence over immigrants. The associations help them with everything from protection against crime to obtaining green cards.

    Many of Clinton’s Chinatown donors said they had contributed because leaders in neighborhood associations told them to. In some cases, donors said they felt pressure to give.

    The other piece of the strategy involves holding out hope that, if Clinton becomes president, she will move quickly to reunite families and help illegal residents move toward citizenship. As New York’s junior senator, Clinton has expressed support for immigrants and greater family reunification. She is also benefiting from Chinese donors’ naive notions of what she could do in the White House.

  11. #149845
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:57 am, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    You know, the commentary here will (rightly) center on Hillary and her “donors.” However, I think it’s worth noting that the LA Times, generally a pretty lib-friendly publication to put it mildly, did some excellent reporting here. Kudos to these journalists.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

  12. #149848
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:57 am, deedledee said:

    It’s time to get our conservative investigators onto this…we know the MSN won’t scratch this itch much.

  13. #149852
    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:58 am, mojoe said:

    I suspect Hillary has been meeting regularly with General Gao to discuss campaign strategies.

  14. #149853
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:00 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 9:41 am, ajmontana said:
    “Hsudough”

    Bingo!

    The original Hsu money was given back to the people in Chinatown who, in turn, donated it back.

    You don’t really think the Clintons would have donated Hsudough to charity do you (unless, of course, they benefitted from it)?

    Of course, this is just my own opinion.

  15. #149859
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:02 am, ajmontana said:

    meant to type
    ‘pHsudough’
    8)

  16. #149861
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:03 am, rbb said:

    I want to know how often this will happen:

    What will happen to the money Hsu gave some families to donate to hillary? If they ask for hillary to refund it, what next? Do they keep it (quite a windfall for some), which would hopefully attract the attention of the IRS. Or do they give it back to Hsu, which would be an admission of fraud…

    What to do, what to do. Unfortunately, the cynical me says they will just let hillary keep it and hope the IRS does not come after them.

  17. #149862
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:04 am, iamsaved said:

    Too many road apples laying around for there not to be a pony running loose.

  18. #149864
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:05 am, spidgy said:

    This reeks. Hillary is evil (and arrogant) and needs to be stopped. Does she think we’re all stupid? (Don’t answer that…)

  19. #149865
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:05 am, terrig said:

    Many of Clinton’s Chinatown donors said they had contributed because leaders in neighborhood associations told them to. In some cases, donors said they felt pressure to give.

    Hmmh, this is interesting isn’t it? Kind of like the strong arming of Tammany Hall or Union thugs?
    Of course the Clintons have no knowledge of such things, they just show up to the event, they don’t know where those who donate live. Poor Clintons, the Times is just bothering them so. sarc off

  20. #149875
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:10 am, ajmontana said:

    She belongs in the White House,
    and Andrew Dice Clay should be a Professor at an all Girls High School. :roll:

  21. #149878
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:13 am, jfish said:

    @pgtips

    My brain isn’t working right now, so bear with me. What exactly does this all mean? That the Chinese didn’t contribute? That someone jammed a gun to their heads and forced them to contribute? That Hilary’s donors masked campaign donations as coming from Chinese foreigners?

    Basically, it means that someone (or two or three) is giving large amounts of money, well beyond their legal limits by using the names of people who could not possibly be giving this much money. In other words, Hsu and others of this shifty bunch who seem to adore the Clintons can spread out tens of thousands of dollars by making it look like a bunch of individual $1000 or $2000 donors. So, it’s not Clinton hiding non-Chinese donations, it’s Chinese donations being hidden as though from individual US citizens so that the direct-to-China connection is less obvious.

    The fact that these people are not even traceable is pretty much indicative of how unlikely it is that they had any real skin in the game, and that interpretation is bolstered by some of these individuals admitting up front that they’ve never donated. We have the bloody laws in place (I think McCain-Feingold is horrible, but it is law), so I truly hope it gets prosecuted and the source of these moneys does get tracked down … preferably before the Chinese feel like they own another US President.

  22. #149880
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:13 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Since they are getting donations from “nobody” will we check and see how many “nodoby” votes she gets during the election?

  23. #149882
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:16 am, max said:

    “Course I’m respectable. I’m old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.” Noah Cross (John Huston), “Chinatown”

    “Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.”

    sorry Hillary, we won’t forget!

  24. #149883
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:18 am, malkin_fan said:

    Shocked!!!!! I’m shocked that illegal chinese are donating there hard earned wages.

    “I was not aware that there was illegal cash being funneled thru the back of Ricks chinese takeout your honor”

  25. #149886
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:19 am, JHSII said:

    Kevin #11
    That was the first thing I noticed too. Did someone at the LA Times forget to drink their daily Kool-Aid that morning?

  26. #149899
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:29 am, DanME said:

    Hillary is covered in slime!!!!!!

    When will some of this dirt stick, it just seems to bounce off as it did with Bill?

  27. #149903
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:32 am, Rinoalert said:

    Where is the money coming from?

    My guess is either Saudi Arabia or Red China.

  28. #149911
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:36 am, ar_chris said:

    Serious question

    Does Hillary still want to do away with the Electoral College?

    She said so on video after one of the last two elections.

    Someone should take her to task.

    To describe her I would say ‘nincompoop’ .

    Please, I ask that all respect small states like Idaho.

  29. #149915
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:39 am, jeanie said:

    Hillary and everyone surrounding her are sleazy!! Dare I say crooks!

  30. #149917
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:42 am, geminicontender said:

    She needs to held to the fire. This woman must be ‘found out’ before the primaries. The American people deserve to know how corrupt this woman is and her followers. We have many more decent people in this country than she does followers. Let’s keep it that way.

  31. #149919
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:43 am, Romeo13 said:

    And the bigger question…

    Just where are the Fed Prosecutors in all of this?

    Smoke…. fire…

  32. #149921
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:44 am, Augustine said:

    She’s a freaking snake. A certified front runner for the right hand of the Anti-Christ.

    eeeeehhh! she gives me the creeps.

  33. #149925
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:49 am, ajmontana said:

    Augustine said:
    eeeeehhh! she gives me the creeps.

    Me too.

  34. #149926
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:49 am, desertdweller said:

    What a corrupt political campaign she’s running.

    She was probably for it before she’ll be against it.

  35. #149931
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:56 am, Boomer said:

    The Clinton’s have been in bed with the Chinese for years. When stationed at Travis AFB we were invited to a Russian Consulate party (during INF/START Treaty work in the late 90s) at the Mark Hopkins Hotel the Clinton’s were also entertaining their friend’s from Red China. We were all dressed in our Service Dress uniforms and our wives were wearing evening dresses. The sharpest looking person was our Marine Gunnery Sergeant (it was a Joint-Service assignment). We had attended a similar event the year before and headed for the same meeting/party room of the previous year. As we approached the closed doors a San Francisco SWAT team poured out of the stairwell surrounding our party and I could see a couple of suits in the back talking into their wrists. Right behind this came one of the guys from the Russian Consulate motioning for us to come to another room. The Clinton’s really do hate the Military sending their law enforcement troops to assault the very people who are sworn to protect the President and other Public figures.

    This and other events such as the White House coffees the Al Gore bagman act at the Buddhist Temple, and Hsu bundling have paid off big for the Red’s. In exchange for funneling money into their election coffers they have received classified missile systems technology now making our Western coast in range of nuclear attack. It will only get worst if “she who must not be named” wins this election. They are both covered in slime with blood on their hands I am still amazed they both are not gracing maximum security prison cells

  36. #149934
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:58 am, Paul-Cincy said:

    max, you beat me to it in #23. But I’ll say it anyway.

    “Forget about it, Michelle. It’s Chinatown.”

    It’s a dark, private place. We know there’s something going on there, but how could we ever find out what it is. Let’s put Jake Gittes on the case. He’ll figure it out. Probably get Mrs. Mulwray killed though, while Noah Cross gets off scot-free. What do you expect. It’s Chinatown.

  37. #149936
    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:59 am, DirkBelig said:

    Why aren’t the other Dem candidates pouncing on all this shady fundraising? The Treason Media has all but placed the crown on their Anointed Empress’ head, but despite the constant flow of stories of shady Asian money filling Hillary’s coffers – just as Bill sold “coffee” access to Communist Chinese arms manufacturers during his regime – no one is trying to capitalize on them.

    A fraction of the Clinton’s track record of sleazy dealings – cattle futures, land deals, selling pardons, bogus foreign contributions – would be fatal to a Republican candidate, but outside of the Blogosphere (I’m surprised the L.A. Times actually looked into her dealings) no one is talking about it. Why isn’t Barack Hussein Obama or the Silky Pony trying to trip her up?

    Yes, I know; she’s got the dirt on them and they’re scared into silence. I’m just making conversation.

  38. #149937
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:00 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Always appreciate your insight Boomer…thanks

  39. #149940
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:03 am, ajmontana said:

    DirkBelig said:
    Why aren’t the other Dem candidates pouncing on all this shady fundraising?

    You really didn’t ask this did you? :lol:

  40. #149945
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:07 am, DirkBelig said:

    ajmontana said: You really didn’t ask this did you? :lol:

    Your point being?

  41. #149948
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:10 am, ajmontana said:

    “Faux News Alert”
    Thousands of Chinese fortune cookies discovered throughout the U.S. with,
    “Give Hillary money or else”
    printed as fortune. film at 11:00

  42. #149950
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:11 am, ajmontana said:

    DirkBelig said:
    Your point being?

    Because it would open a huge can of worms for them.

  43. #149952
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:11 am, Paul-Cincy said:

    A fraction of the Clinton’s track record of sleazy dealings – cattle futures …

    Oh yeah, remember that? When asked how she turned $1000 into $100,000 she replied, she read the Wall Street Journal. $1000 + Wall Street Journal = $100,000. Nice. WSJ should launch an ad campaign based on that tidbit.

    I remember how James B. Stewart summed up Bill and Hill in his book “Blood Sport”. To paraphrase … they each have an appalling lack of interest in the value of the truth. You can see it. You can see when someone is energized by the truth, they hold to it, they seek it out like it’s oxygen, it’s their anchor. Then for others it’s an inconvenience, an annoyance to be handled in their public presentation. “Inconvenient Truth”. That would make a nice book title.

  44. #149955
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:13 am, swj719AWG said:

    DirkBelig said:
    Your point being?

    That they are likely guilty as well, and are making sure it can’t be easily proven before they open their traps.

  45. #149959
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:14 am, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    I heard there’s well know female blogger of Asian descent name is on the list as well ;)

  46. #149960
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:16 am, The Raging Republican said:

    Michelle Malkin said: Predictions: Hillary will come out swinging at the Times, her Asian-American acolytes will accuse the paper of racism and ethnic bigotry, and those “ephemeral” donors will never be found.

    My prediction: Hillary will come out with more campaign promises to give the MSM something else to focus on and take the heat off all of this (how quickly we forget the timing of her health care plan and her promises of giving everyone $5,000).

  47. #149961
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:17 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Hillary can’t help it if she’s a “dirty money magnet.” She was just made that way.

  48. #149962
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:18 am, DirkBelig said:

    Would you kindly go back and read the last paragraph of post #37? Oh, screw it, here it is:

    Yes, I know; she’s got the dirt on them and they’re scared into silence. I’m just making conversation.

    Thanks for providing the insights I didn’t need. Try reading all the words next time.

  49. #149965
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:19 am, Boomer said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:10 am, ajmontana said:
    “Faux News Alert”
    Thousands of Chinese fortune cookies discovered throughout the U.S. with,
    “Give Hillary money or else”
    printed as fortune. film at 11:00

    Thanks! I needed a good Friday morning laugh great way to start my 1st day of leave. Guess I should get in the shower and start on some “honey does” before we start our vacation. I’ll catch up later.

  50. #149967
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:21 am, Augustine said:

    Why aren’t the other Dem candidates pouncing on all this shady fundraising?

    DirkBelig, no way, man! They’re scared to death of her. She’s got that Jezebel/Kiser Sose mojo goin’ on.

  51. #149976
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:25 am, Augustine said:

    Dirk, besides that…they’re running around so looney, they can’t grab their a$$e$ with both hands, much less conduct a real investigation.

  52. #149977
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:25 am, davenp35 said:

    I bet I know where the money is coming from…believe me when I say I’m not normally partial to conspiracy theories, but this one fits just too perfectly. A book called ‘War Beyond Limits’ was published in 1999 by two senior Chinese Colonels. I suggest all MM readers look into its contents on their own. In it they talk about destroying the West through non-military means. One of the ways they sugges is through election manipulation. Think about it…if you have a few hundred well placed operatives you could steer million and millions of Chinese dollars illegally into certain campaigns. I think Hsu was just one of many.

  53. #149979
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:28 am, cpodug said:

    The “Teflon Don” is still alive and well and running for Empress

  54. #149986
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:35 am, conservativesRus said:

    Clinton/Gore…isn’t it a fitting expression “Who (al) gored your ox?”

  55. #149996
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:45 am, bald01 said:

    Just got my netflix for tonight. Guess what the title is. The Manchurian Candidate!

  56. #150000
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:49 am, Pulchritudinous Patriot said:

    Hillary is so slimmy that she probally has scales underneath her clothing.

    I hate to say this but she scares me more than Billy did. A rapist I can handle, Satan incarnate is a bit tougher.

  57. #150006
    On October 19th, 2007 at 11:55 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    If Shillary gets elected, she will be beholden to these “contributors” and Soros types and THEY will be the ones establishing policy as she has no executive experience at all.

    The lefties have always contended that VP Cheney has pulled all the strings for the President. Even if that were 100% true, he was ELECTED to his position.

    Another Clinton Presidency may result in the death of our democracy I fear.

  58. #150017
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:06 pm, John Ansell said:

    Her excuse? With all the pork in Washington, I thought I’d make moo Hsu Pork.

  59. #150019
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:09 pm, mnmike said:

    Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. It amazes me that the LA Slimes writers didn’t mention the HSU case given the similarities.

  60. #150028
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:13 pm, jferg49 said:

    Hillary and Bill make me sick. They have been bamboozling the American public for 20 years…first in Arkansas and then throughout the U.S. Bill should have been impeached alright, but not for getting head in the office, but for allowing our missile guidance technology to be “sold” to the Chinese. When Clinton took office, he modified the Dept of Commerce regulations about not allowing certain technologies to be sold to foreign governments. This allowed his buddy (who gave generously to Clinton’s election) to sell the Chinese the technology, supposedly to help them with their space program, but in reality, they used it for their ICBM program and thanks to Bill, the Chinese can now send ICBM’s to the U.S. with near perfect accuracy…why is it that we seldom hear about that?..

  61. #150029
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:14 pm, greenfairie said:

    Like I’ve said before, it’s ChiCom bribery disguised as campaign contributions.

    Note to LAT reporters: do not accept any invitations to late-night meetings in Fort Marcy Park, VA.

  62. #150031
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:16 pm, Uplander said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:16 am, max said: in #23

    “Course I’m respectable. I’m old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.” Noah Cross (John Huston), “Chinatown”

    “Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.”

    Beautiful analogy, you beat me to it.
    Remember the underlying visualization – Whipstocking

    This is essentially a method of diversion, ‘concentration’, drilling in one area on the surface while actually ‘concentrating’, targeting your efforts toward another goal. Whipstocking

  63. #150032
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pm, Etan said:

    Not that unbelievable, except for the dishwasher part!

    The “gritty” Chinese community that are the target of these accusations in Manhattan and Flushing are NOT as poor as they seem, which probably stems from the left over “communist guilt” over displaying wealth. But trust me, they have it. They also don’t speak English in numbers associated with other minority demographics, have huge numbers of illegals, and many of these addresses are most likely businesses. This is completely opposite in China, where blatant materialism is all the rage, hungry for what Western culture has to offer.

    The craziest thing about this post is I’ve actually SEEN her down there in the grittiest depths of Chinatown going from business to business introducing herself to every business owner, so I’m sure she is in the pockets of the Chinese neighborhood associations.

    So yeah, I believe it…And no, I’m not Chinese, not married to a Chinese, and I don’t live downtown. Sorry to break up the Chinese bashing(I’ll save that for another post;)), Just calling this one like I see it…

  64. #150042
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:27 pm, iamsaved said:

    Etan, who’s bashing the Chinese who live in the Chinese communities? I believe the comments are directed toward the Clinton’s ties to the Chinese government.

    If you don’t see the Chinese government’s fingers in this pie, then maybe you’ve been sniffing too much Chinese incense.

  65. #150048
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:33 pm, Etan said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:27 pm, iamsaved said:

    Etan, who’s bashing the Chinese who live in the Chinese communities?

    Correction.

    Chinese = Chinese donor and illegals (the Chinese referenced in this post)

  66. #150051
    On October 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pm, John Ansell said:

    So, let me guess, this means that Taiwan can give up it’s hope to be free and recognized by the United Nations!

  67. #150087
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:05 pm, TMoney said:

    Hillary has more Hsu’s than Imelda Marcos – and I don’t doubt she has closet enough for them all.

    Reporters of the MSM won’t open the doors.

  68. #150106
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:19 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    It’s for the children

  69. #150111
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:20 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The ephemeral voters will be out in force too.

  70. #150120
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:27 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Etan, I thought “huge numbers of illegals” was a link, but no…any reference anywhere for proof? Not trying to poke you in the eye, but numbers are better in a discussion. And maybe later I’ll Google Bill’s dealings with the Chinese government and Loral for you, and you’ll see why many here think the Chinese government might want Hillary to be President.

  71. #150121
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:27 pm, MarkAB said:

    Makes me want to watch Red Dawn this weekend; as a training exercise. Of course, it’s a little different shade of red in this case.

  72. #150134
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pm, John Ansell said:

    Think of all the cash they stored away in their hsu boxes in order to give to Killery Rotten Clinton.

  73. #150139
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pm, John Ansell said:

    Drudge should really chang his title to say “Chop Hsuey Club”

  74. #150140
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pm, Uplander said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:16 am, max said: in #23

    “Course I’m respectable. I’m old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.” Noah Cross (John Huston), “Chinatown”

    “Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.”

    Beautiful analogy, you beat me to it.
    Remember the underlying visualization – A Petroleum extraction method, Whipstocking

    This is essentially a method of diversion, drilling in one area on the surface while actually, targeting your efforts toward another goal.

  75. #150141
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:44 pm, Etan said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:27 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Etan, I thought “huge numbers of illegals” was a link,

    AlohaGuy, Statements in bold are not necessarily links.

    any reference anywhere for proof?

    I’ll assume you aren’t a New Yorker, or haven’t spent much time in Flushing. My apologies for the lack of statistical research;)

  76. #150155
    On October 19th, 2007 at 1:53 pm, Al in St. Lou said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 10:29 am, DanME said:

    Hillary is covered in slime!!!!!!
    When will some of this dirt stick, it just seems to bounce off as it did with Bill?

    Maybe I’m being overly optimistic, but I think the forces of good are holding off until Hillary has been nominated, and then these revelations will destroy the Democrat Party.

  77. #150184
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:20 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I hope you are right Al.

  78. #150201
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:32 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    I wanted to say what Al (#75) said, but my optimism in this area is at a very low level right now.

  79. #150212
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:41 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    AlohaGuy, Statements in bold are not necessarily links.

    Duh. I wasn’t being literal, it was a suggestion that numbers make a better case.

  80. #150213
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:41 pm, John Ansell said:

    Al, that could be but then that’s when the Gore Loser jumps in.

  81. #150218
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:46 pm, Etan said:

    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:41 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    “irony is wasted on the stupid” –JS

  82. #150224
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:49 pm, Jim M. said:

    The fact that these people are not even traceable is pretty much indicative of how unlikely it is that they had any real skin in the game, and that interpretation is bolstered by some of these individuals admitting up front that they’ve never donated.

    Here’s an idea that no one should object to implementing, especially since the Dem’s have promised to run the most ethical government ever:

    Since we are now making employers confirm the legal status of their employees by running their names and social security/tax ID numbers through an on-line database as part of immigration enforcement, why not subject donors to political campaigns to the same check? It is quick, it costs nothing and it is in place now.

    There should be no objection to this, as it is consistent with the ethical goals of the Democratic leadership and will cost nothing to use.

  83. #150227
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:51 pm, Al in St. Lou said:

    Back in December 2000, I predicted that the Dems would nominate a loser in 2004, Hillary in 2008 who would lose big, and no one would care who they nominated in 2012 because they’d become nothing more than another third party. Actually, I predicted that Hillary would come in no better than third place in 2008. So, I’ve really like hearing that Nader, Bloomberg, and Cynthia McKinney could all run, splitting the LLL vote three ways.

  84. #150233
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:55 pm, MarkAB said:

    Is there any way we, as citizens, can put pressure on the FEC through a petition or some other peaceful actionto investigate.

  85. #150236
    On October 19th, 2007 at 2:58 pm, RevJim said:

    Let’s cut to the chase. Not to sound like echoes from “The Manchurian Candidate,” but (a) Hillary Clinton is a Communist; (b) the Chinese government is Communist; (c) the Chinese Communists had their hooks in Bubba Clinton, to great effect, and even said “we like this President;” (d) if Hillary is elected, she will further Communist causes from within the U.S. government, including those of the Red Chinese.

    A foreign — enemy — government is buying influence in the U.S. Presidential race and in the U.S government. And if she’s elected, they will get it.

  86. #150238
    On October 19th, 2007 at 3:00 pm, BB said:

    I’m pasting this comment on the same issue from ColdWarrior 415 over at Captain’s Quarters:

    Posted by coldwarrior415 | October 19, 2007 12:10 PM

    It is deeper than merely “bundling” and the BCRA.

    Riady. Huang. Lippo Bank. The Chinese PLA. The Chinese MID. Hua Ren Jituan. Any of this ring a bell with anyone?

    It has been the policy of the Chinese government for well over two decades to influence American politics and politicians, and money is their key inducement as ideology doesn’t work.

    It is a priority operational requirement/target of the PLA and the Chinese Military Intelligence Department to gain influence at the highest levels of our government and business to effectively neuter any potential actions against China. Current questions about China’s control over a number of major software giants are currently being brought to light; as well as a number of defense contractors with now known PLA ties.

    An old friend of mine, Nicolas Eftimiades, published exactly this while at DIA, and was met with a plethora of scorn by the former Administration. It didn’t change the fact that his publication, “Chinese Intelligence Operations”‘ [Naval Institute Press, 1994] was solidly on target. It is as germane today as it was in 1992.

    The Lippo Bank, a multi-billion dollar banking empire once owned by the Indonesian Riaddy family, bought a bank in Little Rock in the mid-80’s and funneled funds to then-Governor Clinton’s campaigns and projects. They purchased no other banks anywhere in the United States. Just one lil ole bank in Little Rock.

    Lippo Bank was taken over by the Hong Kong Chinese bank in 1992, and Riaddy realized a net g ain in the purchase that surpassed any other such acquisition by millions. It was an election year, convenient, and the purchasing bank was Hua Ren Jituan, a bank closely associated with and controlled by the PLA. During the 90’s, after the election, the Chiunese were able to get a PLA MID officer inside the White House. Not bad work. Textbook agent of influence operations.

    Huang. Hsu. Chinese poverty line waiters, cooks and bottle washers in New York’s Chinatown. The money trail goes back to Hong Kong and onward to Beijing. Nothing has changed. The Chinese are plodding along, spiking the charts once in a while, but methodically buying their way into the heart of the United States defense programs and the ultimate goal, the White House.

    And we ignore this why? We need Thomas the Tank Engines for our children? We need a steady supply of Barbie Dolls? We need steel pipe to build a border fence? Its old news?

    I’ll give the PLA credit, they are in it for the long haul, and don’t have a Congress to deal with.

    And what started in Little Rock back in the 80’s has reached near flank speed in 2007.

    Paranoid? Not at all. Just looking over the long standing habit of the Clinton’s somehow being the favored child of a lot of Chinese offshore cash. And one has to wonder what happens when the cr*p really hits the fan out in East Asia when and if, God forbid, Hillary assumes the White House in 2009.

    Byzantine Campaign finance laws and the relative prosperity of Chinese bus-boys are all well and good thoughts to consider here, but the real problem, mentioned by a couple posters above, is that there is a concerted effort by the Chinese to subvert our government, and the Clintons are obvious willing foreign agents in their plans. The question we have to ask ourselves, is, what are those plans? I mean, come on, who else do the Chinese have in the American presidential candidate pipeline? Chelsea? No, I think the chief mischief is planned at the hands of the benevolent Hillary.

    Personally, I think Alger Hiss was a piker compared to the Clintons.

  87. #150248
    On October 19th, 2007 at 3:09 pm, Etan said:

    Clinton = Mao 2.0?

    Could it be?

    Clinton is to China what Mao was to the Soviet Union!?

  88. #150253
    On October 19th, 2007 at 3:18 pm, 29Victor said:

    Fortunes told and fire crack
    Letter bold you must get back
    I really have no appetite
    Dragon town on friday night

    Not sure how it relates. But what a great song.

    When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, looks you crooked in the eye and asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol’ Jack Burton always says at a time like that: “Have ya paid your dues, Jack?” “Yessir, the check is in the mail.”

    –Jack Burton
    Big Trouble in Little China

    Probably doesn’t relate either. But an awesome movie.

    See? That was nothing. But that’s how it always begins. Very small.

    –Egg Shen
    Big Trouble in Little China

    Just might relate? Only time will tell.

  89. #150269
    On October 19th, 2007 at 3:45 pm, 24Klady said:

    BB #85, wow! Great research.

    I’m impressed with the MSM and their completely ignoring the story. Haven’t heard a peep out of any of them on any of the major channels. I’m sure they’re just verifying before reporting, un-huh. There is hero-worship just waiting for someone to do the homework and connect some itty bitty dots. Michelle……you are the perfect candidate.

  90. #150275
    On October 19th, 2007 at 3:52 pm, J S Ragman said:

    #85 BB -

    It has been the policy of the Chinese government for well over two decades to influence American politics and politicians, and money is their key inducement as ideology doesn’t work.

    But they do know what whores our politicians are.

  91. #150293
    On October 19th, 2007 at 4:04 pm, conservativesRus said:

    One of the obscene things about all this too – John McCain was a willful participant in helping this along. He wasn’t smart enough to realize – laws only apply to law abiding folk. So when he helps make more laws for the FEC to police, the lawbreakers have even more space to operate.

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