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107 criminal counts against Planned Parenthood in Kansas

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 23, 2007 09:03 PM

I’ve written many times about the predators of Planned Parenthood. The latest effort to hold the abortion racket accountable comes from Kansas. There, Johnson County DA Phill Kline filed a 107-count criminal complaint last week against a Planned Parenthood operation. The counts range from falsifying documents to performing illegal late-term abortions. Planned Parenthood, of course, is crying “anti-choice politics!”

A hearing is set for Nov. 16.

Some background:

Kline while serving as state attorney general in 2004 subpoenaed the records of 90 women and girls who in 2003 underwent late-term abortions at Comprehensive Health or Women’s Health Care Services in Wichita, Kan., saying there is probable cause that each record contains evidence of a felony. The state Supreme Court in February 2006 ruled that Kline could seek access to the records but that he must return to Shawnee County District Court Judge Richard Anderson and present his reasons for seeking the subpoenas. Anderson turned over the records to Kline’s office in November 2006 after removing information that would identify individuals.

State Attorney General Paul Morrison (D) — who defeated Kline in the November 2006 election — in June in a letter to PPKM attorney Pedro Irigonegaray wrote that he has ended the investigation of Comprehensive Health. Morrison added that the attorney general’s office “found no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing” by the clinic. Morrison in the letter also said that Kline forwarded copies of the medical records from PPKM patients to the Johnson County district attorney’s office on Jan. 5 — three days before he left the state attorney general’s office. Kline retains copies of the records, according to Morrison’s letter (Kaiser Daily Women’s Health Policy Report, 7/23). Johnson County District Court Judge Stephen Tatum on Wednesday after Kline’s complaint was filed found probable cause for the charges and set a court date for Nov. 16, the Kansas City Star reports (Bauer et al., Kansas City Star, 10/17).

There is now also a petition drive seeking a grand jury investigation of PP’s activities.

The abortion racket and ABC News are very, very worried.

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  1. #1
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm, 29Victor said:

    Killin’ is their business and business is good.

  2. #2
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 9:43 pm, Texhoma said:

    Along with the abortion racket and ABC News, I am also worried. I am worried that the abortion racket and ABC will find the Liberal Judges they need to stop this legal action.

  3. #3
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 9:54 pm, rooinctown said:

    I agree Tex. We have too many judges that put their own beliefs ahead of the written law. I am glad to see these charges brought. Maybe now they will think twice befor breaking the law next time, but I doubt it.

  4. #4
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 9:56 pm, Surveyor said:

    “Planned Parenthood” ????

    I’ve always disliked that name. Just what do they plan for? Oh yea….murder….silly me.

  5. #5
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 9:59 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Abortion is murder. In addition to that, they broke law. Good call, Kansas.

  6. #6
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:27 pm, Ranten.N.Raven said:

    Don’t forget Planned Parenthood Golden Gate’s Murder Movie. Death, death, death — that’s the “Planned Parenthood” [sic] way!

  7. #7
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    Too long PP has covered up the rape of under age women at the hands of predatory older men. Some of them are older boy friends, step fathers and (gag) fathers and they need to be exposed. These young women need to be protected and PP’s record is shameful!

  8. #8
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:35 pm, feebiebabe said:

    another corrupt organization. why abortion became a political issue is beyond me. it should have stayed as a medical necessity proceedure only .

    there was a girl near my hometown who wound up dying from one of these procedures.

    these people need their heads checked. they are morally bankrupt.

  9. #9
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I call “Planned Parenthood” either “Banned Parenthood” or “Planned Barrenhood”, depending on my mood.

    It is an evil organization that DOES NOT care about women or “women’s health” issues.

    They are in the business of murdering the unborn. It is an abhorrent act; and before any pro-”choice” readers jump on me, I’ve known several atheists who find it just as abhorrent as I do.

    Here’s hoping the 107 criminal counts stick. Please, Lord, hear my prayer.

  10. #10
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:45 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Planned Parenthood receives taxpayer (that would be yours and my money) to run its bloody little show. It’s time to put a stop to that flow of our money.

  11. #11
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:53 pm, granite said:

    #9 englishqueen01:

    I agree.

    Was not Planned Parenthood begun, or at least inspired, by Margaret Sanger?
    And, was not Margaret Sanger a eugenicist, believing that only the most fit should be allowed to produce offspring?

  12. #12
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 pm, almeehan said:

    A-nother
    B-aby
    C-anned

    God have mercy on these people because they are going to need it.
    Luke 17:2 GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)It would be best for that person to be thrown into the sea with a large stone hung around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to lose his faith.

    How utterly tragic that they would deny so many babies from seeing the beautiful light of day that God created for them.

  13. #13
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:04 pm, Quiglag said:

    How about?

    A-nother
    B-aby
    C-orpse

    This is the best news I have heard in a long time. I hope PP loses everything.

  14. #14
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:05 pm, feebiebabe said:

    It is an evil organization that DOES NOT care about women or “women’s health” issues.

    English Queen - BINGO - nailed it. My sister worked for them. The only good thing i can say about it was that after three months there (as a sworn liberal) she was absolutely convinced of this fact. She found PP to be the utmost morally inept organization around. She said it was SO depressing working there.

    She quit. Thank G-d. But it changed her for the better.

    Sticking a fork in a baby’s head is not a choice, it is murder. albiet, IMHO as a medical necessity, I would not fault a person for chosing the option. But barring that. legitimitized murder is all this is.

  15. #15
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    And, was not Margaret Sanger a eugenicist, believing that only the most fit should be allowed to produce offspring?

    Yes, granite.

    Read about her here.

    Margaret Sanger was a racist, a believer in eugenics, and someone eager to see the “undesirables” (read: the poor, the imperfect, and racial minorities) aborted or sterilized. She was a guest speaker at several KKK rallies, and statistics show that more African-American children are aborted every three days than were killed by the KKK throughout its history.

    Margaret Sanger is no more a hero or a champion of women’s rights than I am the queen of England (my moniker refers to my college major, not the country…).

    And Banned Parenthood helps carry out her vile mission on a daily basis.

    And before the liberals out there get all huffy, let me - a pro-lifer - make a few things clear:

    1. Were I ever the victim of a rape, I’d keep and raise the baby. My husband agrees with me on this. Why in the world would I punish the child when his or her father was the criminal?

    2. Were I faced with a life-threatening illness, I’d do everything to ensure my child is given an opportunity at life. Even if it means losing my own.

    It really is that simple. Abortion is not the answer.

  16. #16
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    I just got finished watching our local Fox newscast that characterized the ‘pro-life’ movement as ‘anti-abortion’. I don’t watch it so much any more because it is SO liberal. Yes, the local FOX station is ridiculously liberal.

    Anyway with all the propaganda, these people don’t want to think that they are killing babies. It is murder. Without the abortion clinic, there would be happy healthy babies. . . so call it what you want, but it’s snuffing out a life.

    A woman has a choice over what to do with her body BEFORE she gets pregnant. After she is pregnant there is another life who deserves a choice.

    I hope this ‘planned parenthood (through genocide)’ gets the media attention it deserves. It is a shame that a civilized society thinks this is a ‘good thing’. I wonder how many brilliant minds we have lost because they would have been ‘inconvenient’. It is just sad.

  17. #17
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:31 pm, feebiebabe said:

    English Queen - I do agree with you whole heartedly. However, on one of your two prongs:

    2. Were I faced with a life-threatening illness, I’d do everything to ensure my child is given an opportunity at life. Even if it means losing my own.

    I would not disagree, but only offer you a personal story. I will try to keep short…but when I say medical necessity, I really think it is a very narrow avenue for me.

    My GG-Grandmother was from a small town called Pordenone Italy, Near the Austrian border in Trieste (bare with me here). She had five children. Three girls, two boys, My gggrandfather went to war. his whereabouts were unknown. One of the three sisters was raped by german soldiers (as trieste was a very common cut-through to Austria/and Germany - so were three of her friends. She became pregnent and was healthy enough to have that baby in a convent. Her other two daughters were taken by good friends of the family for three years. These people were very poor but gave my ggrandmother food and shelter.

    It was later found, my GGGrandmother was pregnant. The doctors told her it was a good possibility she may not survive. She had two sons to take care of. At this time, her not surviving was not an option. She had the abortion which being a devout Catholic, killed her inside. But what if her husband had not survived.

    I understand, these circumstances are not the norm, but just so you understand…when I say medical necessity….I mean medical necessity.

    The lives of her two sons depended on her survival.

    Anyway, thank you for your posts. I really enjoy reading them.

  18. #18
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 pm, granite said:

    englishqueen01:

    I know I sometimes sound like a broken record (boy, if that doesn’t date me!), but the abortion “issue”, as with so many other battles in the war for our society/culture, IMO exists mainly because the opposite sides have diametrically opposed worldviews; or, as the always excellent Thomas Sowell terms it in, and by the title of, his book,: “A Conflict of Visions”.

    Either a zygote is alive, or it is not.

    Either a zygote is human, or it is not.
    It may not be a moving, thinking, fully formed male or female; but, it is nonetheless human.

    Either abortion is the killing of an inconvenient human, or it is not.

    I believe it really boils down to that.

    Claiming that human life does not begin at conception is really no more than an attempt to arrange intellectually favorable conditions for casual, selfish, convenient, sort of “on-demand” sex.

    It is the ultimate self-centered, indivualistic worldview, that more likely than not is existentialist, secularist, materialist, and humanist;

    as opposed to the worldview that might be desribed as traditionalist, and that believes in the existence of a soul.

    The former feels that our time here on Earth is all that exists.

    The latter feels that our soul lives on beyond our time on this mortal coil.

    (I am not a philosopher, so please cut me a bit of slack if you can.)

    The situation we are discussing here is not like one side wanting to spend 13.4% of the budget on upgrade X, but the other side wanting to spend 14.7%; in such a situation, middle ground is attainable.

    No, these are two irreconcilable, diametrically opposed worldviews; for which it is impossible to meet each other halfway.

    Look at the absurdity of abortion law: It esentially states that it’s OK to kill the embryo/fetus up until the time it can live outside the womb; after that, it’s not OK to kill it.
    What?!?! Why?!?!

    So, compromise, “middle ground”, or “splitting the difference” between two such worldviews is not possible; no more possible, as I have said before, than finding “middle ground” between a table and a dog.

  19. #19
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    that’s an odd story feebiebabe. This is why it is not up to us to judge morality as it is God’s domain. The bottom line with your case is that the mother possibly would not survive.

    In my very pro-life attitude, I believe that a woman should not be forced to endanger her life to have a child. At that point an abortion becomes just as any life saving operation would.

    So again I am staunchly pro-life. It isn’t so much a single issue deal with me when determining candidates because it won’t likely come up in my life. . . I want lots of babies eventually (if I can find a woman to put up with me).

    But I believe that even as a pro-lifer, I can not in good conscience force a woman to give up her life for a child under any circumstances. That decision should be made by her physician and not some external organization such as planned parenthood.

    Interesting story though and very telling that you recall it. It shows that even four generations later abortion still has an impact on you.

  20. #20
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pm, 2manybooks2littletime said:

    In my mind the choice in “pro-choice” is when the women/child has sex. That is the choice they made. That choice could result in a a baby. Consequences to actions. Don’t we teach even our smallest children this~there are consequences to actions?

    Yep, every woman has a choice~whether to have sex or not. After that, put your big girl panties on and deal with the consequences of your actions.

    They don’t want to raise a baby? Do they know how many people out there LONG for a child? How many people are going to foreign countries to adopt b/c our country kills the “unplanned” rather than give them up for adoption?

    sigh.

  21. #21
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pm, granite said:

    Feebiebabe:

    Thank you for your post.

    Yes, we must accept that in life, heartbreaking situations and difficult/impossible decisions might face us at any moment - months from now, or 10 minutes from now.

    If your GGGrandmother had died, what tragedy would that have visited upon her children?

    God bless her and keep her, and your family.

    My discussion deals with abortions of convenience - with the abortion industry, if you will.

  22. #22
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 pm, granite said:

    ThackerAgency and 2manybooks2littletime:

    Well said.

  23. #23
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pm, granite said:

    Lest I forget:

    Go Phil Kline!
    Nail them!

  24. #24
    On October 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 pm, feebiebabe said:

    granite. Absolutely. I find nothing more abhorrent than when these proceedures as in 99.9% of the cases they are, are given as a matter of conveinence. I had a classmate in HS that had two,,,TWO!!! can you imagine?

    I just feel like sometimes, giving others grace for making difficult decisions sometimes needs to be taken into consideration.

    My grandmother tells me stories. At 84 she is sharp as a wip. She is whole heartedly against abortion…but always offers me this story on a lesson of grace to others and the brutality of war. She is such a wonderful person, and her wisdom to me remains untouchable.

    I have not disagreed with anything anyone has said on this post, nor taken offence to ANYTHING. I am a pro-lifer all the way. It just proves this subject is not a black and white situation .001% of the time.

    That is all.

  25. #25
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:20 am, 29Victor said:

    #11 granite

    And, was not Margaret Sanger a eugenicist, believing that only the most fit should be allowed to produce offspring?

    Yes, and her dream is comming true.

  26. #26
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:23 am, feebiebabe said:

    #25 - words fail. how sad/disgusting that is.

  27. #27
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:39 am, josetheguerilla said:

    There, Johnson County DA Phill Kline filed a 107-count criminal complaint last week against a Planned Parenthood operation.MM

    Wow!! More charges than OJ Simpson. If the Gloves fit you must convict!!!!

  28. #28
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:52 am, 29Victor said:

    Ahh. This is what I was looking for:
    More than 100 babies with minor disabilities, such as a cleft palate or club foot, were aborted in one area of England in a three-year period, statistics reveal.

    When Hitler wanted a master race it was evil, but now…

    But there is something that every one of us can do. We may not be able to get the courts to rule the way we want to or get Congress to make laws that respect life, but every one of us can contact their local Care Net (formerely Crisis Pregnancy Center) and see if they need donations or help.

    My local Care Net needed computers. They were running Windows 95 or 98 computers with MS Office 97. It didn’t take very much (with the help of techsoup.com) to get them into nice, shiney new XP computers with Office 2003.

    Our (really small) church has helped by moving furniture when someone donated carpeting. There was a local “fun-run/ride/walk” that raised money for ultrasounds(a girl has, like, a 90%+ chance of choosing life if she sees an ultrasound of her baby), our church (along with a bunch of others)participated. They were able to purchase three ultrasound machines.

    Can you build stuff? they need stuff built. Can you run an office? they might need that. Can you fix computers? They need that. They always need people to answer phones or to take a pager overnight for late-night calls and will train women to be counselors.

    The are non-denomonational and really make a difference, both with helping girls to find alternatives to abortion and counseling those that Planned Parenthood and their kind have “practiced their art” upon and abandoned. The ones who choose life they support with material needs (diapers, formula, clothes, cribs) and the ones who don’t they support with love. And they do it all asking and recieving nothing from the government.

    The women who run the places are some of the sweetest, most caring, Godly women that you are ever likely to meet. The joy that I receive just being allowed to hang out in this little island of hope and love in our hurting, hurting world is more than payback for any work that I might do. They have blessed me far more than I could ever bless them back.

    They save babies. They minister to those that have been violated by an abortion and you can help.

    You can help save babies, how cool is that?

  29. #29
    On October 24th, 2007 at 4:26 am, graysonret said:

    If you’re illegal in the country, you get all sorts of rights. If you are subjected to the death penalty, you get all sorts of rights. If someone shoots the mother and kills the baby in the womb, the person is tried for murder. If you don’t treat a newborn according to the politically correct “baby police”, you go to jail. But, if the child is aborted, a pat on the back, with a “congratulations” is given. What sort of society do we live in?

  30. #30
    On October 24th, 2007 at 7:26 am, englishqueen01 said:

    feebiebabe:

    Thank you for sharing that story. I understand how my position could be difficult.

    I also believe that, with today’s medical technology, it’s possible to treat the illness and avoid abortion - even in-utero surgery is a possibility. If the treatment results in the death of the child, it is not abortion. Of course, this wasn’t available to your GG, and she did what she felt was necessary. I will keep her in my prayers.

    Look at the absurdity of abortion law: It essentially states that it’s OK to kill the embryo/fetus up until the time it can live outside the womb; after that, it’s not OK to kill it.
    What?!?! Why?!?!

    You’re forgetting the terrible practice of PBA - George Tiller, a KS abortionist - has performed this “procedure” on perfectly healthy babies because their mothers worried about “not being able to go to rock concerts” and “not being able to play sports.”

    Also, Peter Singer advocates - openly advocates - denying newborn children the right to life up to the age of one. He doesn’t believe that they - born and living - are “human” and, therefore, can be killed up to the age of 12 months.

    So anyone who says abortion isn’t a “slippery slope” is full of it. If life doesn’t begin at conception - if that’s not the acceptable definition of life, it opens wide the door to deciding that born babies aren’t really human until they’re one…or two…or five…

    Abortion strips people of their dignity and humanity. It denies not only life, but that babies are even human.

    Sickeningly, these same people have no problem advocating that baby monkeys be given full protection as humans

    If you don’t treat a newborn according to the politically correct “baby police”, you go to jail.

    graysonret: You’re exactly right. Or if you’re a California legislator, you can mandate how parents discipline their children and punish those who don’t act accordingly, all while hysterically claiming parents “beat” their infant children.

    Or, if you decide - like the Duggar family of Arkansas - to have 17 children, you will be criticized for it. Even though the Duggars are financially able to support all their children WITHOUT any government assistance.

    I’m sure if there was a woman who had 17 abortions, she’d be - as you put it - given a “pat on the back” and told “Good work!”

    It really is messed up.

  31. #31
    On October 24th, 2007 at 8:26 am, Dumpling said:

    Abortion should be classified by the federal government as a terrorist act; abortion mills should be classified as terrorist organizations; people who support “choice” and finance abortion through donations and fund-raising should be classified as aiders and abetters of terrorism; and the medical “professionals” who perform abortions should be classified as terrorists who undermine homeland security and threaten the safety and security of all Americans. That’s my opinion on the matter.

  32. #32
    On October 24th, 2007 at 8:50 am, Augustine said:

    It is a moral indictment against this country that a child has to die for someone’s convenience.

    PS: You won’t hear the any of a multitude of stories of the post-traumatic psychological problems that many of these women have later in life. I’ve heard some of the stories from women who have become Christians… while the stroies heartbreaking, they are also are a testment to God’s amazing grace.

  33. #33
    On October 24th, 2007 at 9:30 am, Boomer said:

    Not being equipped with a uterus and as of last summer neither is my wife we really don’t have a dog in this fight anymore. However we have both been faced with the choice of aborting an unplanned child before we were married. Both of us championed the side of life and both little girls have grown up to be mothers themselves. As far as this household is concerned life begins at conception and failure to protect that life is a blatant act of murder. Or is it legal to do some late term abortions too. There are some useless members of society that should be aborted now (thinking of our elite ruling caste in this country). It would be interesting to see how many counts of murder these people will have to face when they meet the ultimate judge beyond this life.

  34. #34
    On October 24th, 2007 at 9:34 am, JohnHolliday said:

    I think the best way to describe when human life begins, is that it begins at the instance of the first division of the fertilized egg and not at conception. Thay may be splitting hairs, but the difference is real.

    A person can be described as a multi-celled organism with each cell containing 46 human chromosomes. You cannot say the same thing about a fertilized egg. However, the instant that it divides, it’s a human life. And that is a scientific fact.

    But then, since when do liberals care about science?

  35. #35
    On October 24th, 2007 at 9:37 am, kiwiwgranny said:

    Over the last 10 years or so I have undergone a change of thinking on many things, abortion being one of them. After seeing the ultra sounds of my grand children there was just no denying that they were babies and not just a lump of tissue, as we had been told over and over by the abortionists.

    My daughter works with a girl who has had four children with four different men and 7, (count them) 7 abortions, the last being in July of this year! She is now pregnant again, but this time she said that she will not have an abortion, but my daughter said that she is doing everything she can think of to cause a ‘natural abortion’.

    When will girls like this learn that you can’t go running around having unsafe sex with who ever and not have to deal with the consequences?

  36. #36
    On October 24th, 2007 at 10:14 am, supersean said:

    #28 BUMP!

    More than just complaining about the evil of PP, we must support those that are in a time of crisis and are contemplating an abortion not for convenience but out of their perceived necessity

    Choose Life!

    MM: Thank you for sharing that PP is finally being held accountable for their predatory and illegal practices.

  37. #37
    On October 24th, 2007 at 10:42 am, granite said:

    Difference of worldviews, folks…difference of worldviews.

    englishqueen01 #30:

    I agree.

    I didn’t bring up “partial-birth” abortion because I thought my post was already too wordy.

    As one of my residents advised me during my internship, “The longer you make your note, the less likely it is that someone is going to read it.”

  38. #38
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:10 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On Oct. 27th @ 9 PM, Fox will run a documentary on three women who are exploring abortion called “Facing Reality, Choice.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304274,00.html

    A gynecologist said “It is a moral crisis for them … this is not a black and white issue.” “It’s not something that you can say, you know, ‘This is good and this is bad.’ It’s a mix … The woman who’s making that decision is the only person that can make that moral choice for herself.”
    ————————————-
    Along the same lines, let’s say

    Bob is married, and he is facing a heart-wrenching choice that many other men will make this year. FOX News exclusive on men who want to have their wives terminated: “I love her and just want what is best for us,” says Bob.

    “It’s a moral crisis for them…this is not a black and white issue,” said judge Libby Roll. “It’s not something that you can say, you know, ‘This is good and this is bad.’ It’s a mix … The man who’s making that decision is the only person that can make that moral choice for himself.”

    For Alex — who at age 35 has been married for 7 years — deciding on divorce vs. homicide means thinking about “the right thing to do.”

    “I always modeled marriage after my parents’ relationship but that’s just not working out. We’re fighting all the time and I don’t think either of us is happy. Divorce will leave me paying alimony for years of my life. How could anyone ask me to sacrifice my future like that after I’ve worked so long on my career?” he asked.

    Joe, an unemployed 24 year old still living in his religious parents’ basement, woke up one morning to find himself hung over and newly wed. His new wife is already nagging him to get a job and move out on his own.

    “I mean all that’s still playing in my mind, but in the back of my mind it’s like, you know what, why go through with this all over again, you know just kinda … just do it and get it done,” Alex said.

    “I respect divorced people but I’m not sure I could stand to see her with another man, he added.” “There’s … nobody deserves to go through that.”

    Clearly what is missing is the voice of the wife. Who is going to be the voice for the baby?

  39. #39
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:17 am, granite said:

    #38 30 pcs of silver:

    Terrific!

    Bravo!

  40. #40
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:23 am, englishqueen01 said:

    granite:

    I tend to be a little passionate - and wordy - about something like this.

    Re: Ultrasounds.

    Back in 1989, Harrison Hickman said the following to NARAL:

    “Nothing has been as damaging to our cause as which have the advances in technology [that have] allowed pictures of the developing fetus, because now people talk about that fetus in much different terms than they did fifteen years ago. They talk about it as a human being, which is not something that I have an easy answer how to cure.”

    So much for an informed “choice”…especially when women see - as Boomer said - that a baby, even at 8 weeks gestation, is clearly not a “lump of cells”, they’re more likely to CHOOSE not to have an abortion. And clearly NARAL, in the same league as Banned Parenthood, finds ultrasound techonology damaging to their “cause”…

  41. #41
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:25 am, englishqueen01 said:

    30 pieces - great post. Perfect example.

  42. #42
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:39 am, granite said:

    englishqueen01:

    I’m sure you understand that in my post I was in no way implying that anyone else was being wordy!

  43. #43
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:40 am, granite said:

    P.S.

    Good post #41.

  44. #44
    On October 24th, 2007 at 11:40 am, granite said:

    Err… #40.

  45. #45
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:00 pm, feebiebabe said:

    english queen. re: #30 - i agree. hats off to you my dear…respectfully, feebs,

  46. #46
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:15 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I’m sure you understand that in my post I was in no way implying that anyone else was being wordy!

    I understand, granite! :) I thought my post was a little long.

    feebs - thank you. And best regards to you as well. :)

  47. #47
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:17 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Thanks englishqueen and granite.

  48. #48
    On October 24th, 2007 at 12:17 pm, 29Victor said:

    #40 englishqueen01

    I wondered, a couple years ago, why certain people were beginning to complain about “non-medical use of ultrasound machines” when they had been being used as long as I could remember and were considered safe.

    Then I discovered that a HUGE percentage of women will choose life after seeing their child on an ultrasound. And that, because of this, pro-lifers were aquiring ultrasound machines to show women their babies.

    Now I understand.

    Informed choice indeed.

  49. #49
    On October 24th, 2007 at 4:02 pm, L.N. Smithee said:

    Re: Margaret Sanger - Planned Parenthood only discusses her in the most vague terms as being a pioneer feminist, decades ahead of her time as a promoter of contraception. True, they don’t want to talk her racism, elitism, and pro-eugenicist activism. But what Planned Parenthood fears most of all is the publicizing of the fact that Sanger was herself against abortion.

    From Page 188 of her autobiography, archived on Google Book Search:

    …But the ideas of wise men and scientists were sterile and did not affect the tremendous facts of life among the disinherited. All the while their discussions had been proceeding, the people had been and still were blindly, desperately practicing birth control by the most barbaric methods — infanticide, abortion, and other crude ways…

  50. #50
    On November 4th, 2007 at 12:27 am, leepro said:

    #15 englishqueen01

    You arer so absolutely right… on every point you make!

    /just had to say

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