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1. #1
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:20 pm, Weebork said:

   Dear Michelle,

   Do you happen to know if this phenomenon is more prevalent among Boomer parents versus Gen-X parents? I am leaning towards the former than the latter for the more liberal leanings of letting their young kids dress trashy.

   I’m of the Gen-Xer generation (I think we both are) and I am under the belief that our generation had stopped being extremely stupid a few years ago.

2. #2
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:33 pm, Buck I said:

   Okay, I share in MM’s outrage on this issue. The sexualization of children in modern society is absolutely disgusting.

   Hey parents, this stuff ain’t cute. It never ceases to amaze me. This isn’t a liberal vs. conservative issue. I could wager a guess as to the voting practices of some of the parents in those southern little girl beauty pageants with the make-up, and “sassy” attitude.

   This is a right vs. wrong issue, and a need to protect the innocence of our chidren issue. This crap ain’t cute.

3. #3
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:34 pm, ACHefty said:

   Keeping your kids from wanting this bilge takes three simple steps: Strong Discipline, Exemplified Discipline, Self Discipline.

   Simple, but not easy. Take it from a father of 13.

4. #4
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:35 pm, pgtips said:

   Those videos are scary. They actually show stuff like that on TV?

5. #5
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:37 pm, Bob's Kid said:

   I can’t in a million years imagine wanting a pole in my bedroom…I mean…really.

   Am I so old?

6. #6
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:41 pm, lumberjack said:

   In 2004, South Park went way overboard on this theme with: “Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playset” Way overboard for 2004, but I fear that by 2010 we’ll be living the episode.

7. #7
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:41 pm, max said:

   the most telling exchange for me was…

   Bruce: “Honey, I just don’t think that’s appropriate.”
   Wife: “Are you SERIOUS?”

   the mother (i assume) has absolutely no idea that the little girl’s faux-raunchy
   behavior was inapproriate. Or, more typically, she’s too stupid to realize it and when it’s pointed out to her she turns on her husband as though he’s the one who’s out of line….typical lib “Nobody can tell me NUTHIN’” attitude…

8. #8
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:43 pm, josetheguerilla said:

   My three-year old is going to be snow white for Halloween. Last year I did have a few four year old pimps show up at the door.

   I’m of the Gen-Xer generation (I think we both are) and I am under the belief that our generation had stopped being extremely stupid a few years ago.weebork

   Ever heard of Gwen Stefani or Janet Jackson?

9. #9
   On October 30th, 2007 at 3:43 pm, max said:

   eeewww…. and that second video is just sick… potentially criminal methinks

10. #10
    On October 30th, 2007 at 3:44 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Weebork:

    That’d be an interesting comparison. And then to see how Boomers vs. Gen-X vs. my generation (Gen-Y?) view parenting.

    My husband is 13 years my senior, and a Gen-Xer. Most of his Gen-X friends aren’t married, and a few others who are don’t have children (all but one by choice).

    My six closest girl friends and I are all mid-20s (23-25), all but one of us is married, and five of us have (or are expecting) at least one child. We are all conservative, church-going, etc…

    One can only hope the trend shifts away from the perverted, no-holds-barred behavior and to a behavior that demands more self-control, personal responsibility, and a genuine respect for the health and sanctity of one’s body.

11. #11
    On October 30th, 2007 at 3:44 pm, KelliD said:

    One daughter (Kim) already has a sex tape out. The countdown has begun for the other sisters.

12. #12
    On October 30th, 2007 at 3:47 pm, High Desert Wanderer said:

    It’s hard buying a reasonable costume for your child. There are some really inappropriate costumes for sale, and at some stores that’s all that seems to be available.

13. #13
    On October 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pm, 29Victor said:

    Weebork #1

    I’m of the Gen-Xer generation (I think we both are) and I am under the belief that our generation had stopped being extremely stupid a few years ago.

    I’m so sick of the Boomer generation. Those of us that they didn’t kill they did as little actual parenting with as was possible to keep us alive and them looking good.

    Hopefully, some in our generation are waking up to the fact that:
    1) We are lucky just to have not been killed by our own mother.
    2) “Dr. Spock” and his minions were so popular because they gave parents permission to be their kids “friend” instead of their parent.
    3) We can do better.

    BTW: None of the above applies to my mother. She is awesome (and not a Boomer).

14. #14
    On October 30th, 2007 at 3:54 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    1) We are lucky just to have not been killed by our own mother.

    As someone born on the 10th “anniversary” of Roe v. Wade, I wholeheartedly agree.

    BTW: None of the above applies to my mother. She is awesome (and not a Boomer).

    My parents are BOTH Boomers, and this doesn’t apply to them, either.

    Because of their parenting, we’re “friends” NOW – they were parents when I needed them to be.

15. #15
    On October 30th, 2007 at 3:56 pm, James Felix said:

    I know he’s a comedian, but Chris Rock made a good point when he said a parent’s number one job was to keep their little girl off the pole.

    Lots and lots of parents dropping that ball, it seems.

16. #16
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:00 pm, granite said:

    I agree with the comments about boomers.

    I like to think my wife and I are atypical boomers.

    As I’ve said many times, the only good thing to come out of the 60s and early 70s (1973 & before) is the music.
    Otherwise, that time was a disaster for our society, culture, and country.

    I am not a Bibilical scholar, but the expression is apt and cannot be improved upon:

    The whirlwind was sown in the 60s and 70s, while those who warned (accurately!) against it were mocked, derided, and ridiculed; we are now reaping the whirlwind.

17. #17
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:02 pm, granite said:

    Sorry: …the WIND was sown…

18. #18
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:05 pm, 29Victor said:

    englishqueen01

    Congrats on being born.

    Not all Boomers are alike, thank God. There are some really good Boomers out there, they are the ones who had the brains, courage and goodness to stand against society and do what they knew to be right.

    I see 20-somethings that were raised in a “parent as best friend” household and almost to a one they look down on, resent, and condescend to their parents. At the same time, the 20-somethings that I know were raised in loving, disciplined households (even if they had some rough teenage years) usually respect and befriend their parents. Maybe they come to realize that good parenting is a lot of WORK and that their folks were willing to do that hard work out of love for them.

19. #19
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:07 pm, 29Victor said:

    granite

    Almost thought you were endorsing Disco there.

    That was a close one.

20. #20
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:09 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Michelle:

    Thank you so much for brining this up on the Kardashians. My fiancé and I sat there in absolute horror last night watching these shenanigans (I sound like an old woman, I know).

    I don’t even know where to begin but my body temperature hit an all time high when I saw the mother persuading her own daughter to do a nude photo shoot in Playboy. Something her daughter appeared to be entirely uncomfortable with. Yet Mom continued on the persuasive “peer-pressure” path like a manipulative 11th grader, saying “I think it would be really cool, don’t you?” Heh?

    I just about lost my stuff. I looked at my fiancé, with my jaw dropped and said “She is pimping out her children!”

    UN-BELIEVABLE.

21. #21
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:11 pm, RetFireman said:

    It doesn’t just end at the clothes or the TV shows. I am the proud father of three girls, aged 8-16, and I have to tell you, just a trip to the toy store is a nightmare sometimes. There is a toy line out called “Bratz”. These are basically nothing more than what “Hooker Barbie” would be if they manufactured such a thing.

    There are three “age” levels of these dolls that they market. There is the teen version, of which they ha a movie out this summer, and cartoons that portrays them as rock stars, some elementary aged ones and then the one I find so horribly offensive that just the fact that it is still available let alone put on tv commercials is stunning to me. I am referring, of course, to the “Bratz Babies”

    These are dolls that are made up to look like whore, and look as if they are marketed towards child molestors. They have pouty lips, make up and walk around looking “sexy” with lipstick etc. I get outraged everytime those commercials come on or I see them in the store. Anyone who has seen these can probably attest to this.

    These have been banned in my house. I am pretty open, dare I say, Liberal, with my kids, but I refuse to have them play with or associate with ANYTHING that would ever promote women, let alone children or babies, as sex objectified bimbos who can’t do anything but use their “humps”

22. #22
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:13 pm, flmom said:

    as Diana West says “Where have all the grown-ups gone?”

23. #23
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:14 pm, JHSII said:

    I remember a few years ago all the outrage about the British woman who wanted to teach pole dancing to 8-year-olds. I was hoping we were over this BS and wouldn’t have to go through it again.

    You know, I used to have respect for Jenner. Not any more.

    Nadia Comaneci is still cool!

24. #24
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:21 pm, 29Victor said:

    The “man” in the Hot Air clip makes me want to slap him.

    When I’m talking to my daughter, she’ll sit there and say “Well, you don’t know fashion” and how can I compete against that?

    He can grow some stones. It’s not his job to “compete,” it’s his job to whatever he has to to protect her and teach her how to dress and act properly. The guy is putting to job of parenting onto his child. It’s his job to tell her “Yes, those clothes will get you attention, but it’s not the kind of attention you want. Boys won’t think nice things about you, they will think that you are a piece of meat. And you’re better than that because you are my daughter, not some cheap slut.”

    My goodness, my kids would get their hand smacked just for talking to me or their mother like that.

25. #25
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:24 pm, conservativesRus said:

    This reminds me of a saying my mother used to say: “Anybody can have a baby, but not all of them parent. Just look around and you’ll see plenty of examples.”

26. #26
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:25 pm, J S Ragman said:

    Good.

27. #27
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:25 pm, feebiebabe said:

    My goodness, my kids would get their hand smacked just for talking to me or their mother like that.

    (Snort) – No kiddin’. I never did, but I would imagine when I did wake up, I wouldn’t know what day it was.

    I can remember on a couple of occasions trying to test the waters with a little mini-skirt. Dads response, “Where the hell do you think you’re goin’?”

    I knew at that time, it was not up for negotiation OR discussion. Went back up stairs and tried to get by with something else.

    Kids will try to push limits, its the parents job to set the boundries!

28. #28
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:26 pm, J S Ragman said:

    Please append to my previous post,

    Lord.

29. #29
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:44 pm, ajmontana said:

    You have got to be……oh nevermind. geez.

30. #30
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:50 pm, cpodug said:

    Remember all the talk about how fathers pushed their sons into Little League Baseball and Football? And how they holler and yell at the coaches and umpires/referees? The dreaded LL parent syndrome, trying to recapture their own childhood through their children? Literally forcing their sons into the game, living their own pathetic lives vicariously through them? Same thing here, but in this case it applies to both parents.

    And it’s not just a generational thing – ANY parent can be caught up in it. The whole idea is to try and live your own life again, knowing what you do now, and not making the same mistakes you did in your youth.

    Consequently, the children have been deprived of their own life. No wonder teen suicide is up.

    I agree that parents must set the boundaries, and not let the children cross over them, but at the same time must give them the leeway necessary for the children to develop on their own, making their own mistakes, learning their own life lessons, and developing into responsible adults.

    To these sick parents who force their children to be miniature adults, all I can say is “get a life.”

    A good example of what we’re seeing here is the tragic and sick case of Jon Benet Ramsey. While I can feel for the parents having lost their daughter, I can fault them for trying to make her into something she was never meant to be – bait.

    Yes, there is something fundamentally flawed in our society. The parents won’t feel shame, because they simply don’t care – if they ever were taught right from wrong, they rejected it, and all the rest of their parents values with it.

    Folks nowadays try to believe that there is no absolute right or wrong, that truth is “relative” – and even many staunch conservatives aren’t above shifting with the tide when it suits their purposes. Who among us hasn’t told a lie when it will keep us out of trouble, or further our own particular agenda? I have to confess I’ve been guilty of that in the past, and I’ll probably be guilty of it in the future.

    But that’s no excuse for parents exploiting their own children. These incidents SHOULD be investigated by Child Protective Services, and the children taken away from their natural parents, and put into foster homes where they could learn to be real kids for the first time in their lives.

    Ain’t gonna happen. And that’s the real tragedy.

31. #31
    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:57 pm, TeutonicNomad said:

    HighDesertWanderer,#12;

    How about getting off your lazy butt and making the costume for your child; it is fun when you and your child work on this together, it’s the good part of parenting.

32. #32
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:03 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Anyone remember these panties marketed to pre-teen girls from Abercrombie & Fitch?

    Abercrombie’s response to the outrage, you ask?

    A&F said it is not its intention to offend anyone. “The underwear for young girls was created with the intent to be lighthearted and cute,” the company said. “Any misrepresentation of that is purely in the eye of the beholder.”

    So far, the company said it has no plans to recall the underwear.

    What responsibility do they have if the “beholder” is a pedophile?

33. #33
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:03 pm, JWS said:

    Charming. The problem is that all those a-holes who say “dude” and “bra”, and wear their stupid hats on backwards are now…dads. The “you’re gonna get a timeout” generation has raised and continues to raise the worst kids ever…

34. #34
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:05 pm, Debbie Schlussel said:

    Michelle:
    You just learned of Kim Kardashian? Boy are you in for a treat. I mean, you did see her famous sex video with rap star Ray-J, right? That’s been on the net for about a year, and she’s selling it. Believe me, the pole dancing thing (with her clothes somewhat on) is the least of her offensiveness.

35. #35
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:08 pm, TimDenchanter said:

    I had an amusing thought last night while watching Bill O’Reilly talking about the sexy Halloween outfits.

    Someone try this:

    Make sure that every parent who buys a sexy Halloween costume for their underage daughter gets a Planned Parenthood business card for their daughters to keep “just in case”.

    It wouldn’t be a real Planned Parenthood card, as I don’t want to send anyone to those butchers, but made to look like one.

    The phone number listed would be for a rape crisis hotline instead, just in case the parents aren’t getting the message.

36. #36
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:19 pm, mom2jack said:

    Well, Kim Kardashian is basically famous for being Paris Hilton’s friend, if that tells you anything. I don’t watch the show (avoid E! altogether – it’s trashier than MTV).

    Michelle, I’m with you. I was at the same store with my 7yo son – he has no clue what a Mack Daddy is, but I when I saw that I thought “are you kidding?” Maybe there’s something wrong with ME, because no one seems to bat an eye. And the slutty costumes for girls blew my mind.

    My neighbor dresses her 4yo like a tramp on many occasions. She already has a collection of Bratz dolls which are probably one of the most vile products I’ve ever seen marketed to girls. She gives me a lot of hand-me-downs for my 2yo, but I secretly give a lot of it away to Goodwill.

    For the record, 1)I’m a Gen-Xer; 2)my parents preceeded the Boomer generation by one year and would have locked me in my room if I tried to wear something like that, even for Halloween; and 3)#31, your post is rude – parents who can’t make costumes don’t have “get off their butts” and do that to have quality time with their kids. What does that have to do with anything? I can’t make costumes but I always have fun planning with my son what he wants to be.

37. #37
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:21 pm, 29Victor said:

    JWS

    The “you’re gonna get a timeout” generation has raised and continues to raise the worst kids ever…

    And what do you think is going to happen to those parents when the time comes that they need those little punks to take care of them?

    Logan’s Run… the eternal timeout.

38. #38
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:23 pm, 29Victor said:

    Tim

    Make sure that every parent who buys a sexy Halloween costume for their underage daughter gets a Planned Parenthood business card for their daughters to keep “just in case”.

    That’s funny. But the kids probably already have a real Planned Parenthood card from school.

39. #39
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:38 pm, Gothguy said:

    This is morally reprehensible and beyond the pale.

    I find it ironic (in a repugnant way) that the same parents that allow their teenage daughters to have a computer and a web cam in their room, unsupervised, and allow their daughters to do what was filmed above, are the very same parents that continually decry that society is not doing enough ‘for the children.’

    As a parent, I contend that it is your moral responsibility to raise your children correctly, not society, et al. I find it appalling that many parents today have abdicated parental responsibility, because they deem it necessary to be ‘friends’ with their children.

    In my opinion, a parent is first and foremost a mentor and a guide to their child, raising them to become good, productive members of society.

    Once a child reaches majority, then the child becomes wholly responsible for their own actions, but until that time, I remember well some of my Dad’s reminders to me and my brothers when we would get smart or mouthy…

    “This is my house, I pay the mortgage, I make the rules, so when you start paying the house note, then you can question the rules.”

    “Because I said so, that’s why.”

    “No, that bedroom is NOT yours, you just sleep there, and I will enter it whenever I want to.”

    “Don’t like what your Mother cooked, fine…starve…this ain’t a restaurant, and your Mother ain’t a short order cook!”

    “I don’t care how long you sit at the table, you will finish what your Mother cooked.”

    “This is gonna hurt me more than it will hurt you…” (Right before administering corporal punishment).

    My parents were both Depression Era babies, so being picky with food was a major no-no, you ate what was placed before you. Also, as children, we had a minimal expectation of privacy, or ‘rights’ as children now proclaim to have.

40. #40
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:44 pm, feebiebabe said:

    #39 – You forgot “I brought you in to this world, I can take you out!”

    Our parents must have taken classes together.

    lol

41. #41
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:47 pm, 29Victor said:

    #40

    …”And I can make another one that looks just like you.”

42. #42
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:49 pm, TimDenchanter said:

    Just in case anybody hasn’t guessed, my idea of the fake Planned Parenthood business card (with the real number of a rape crisis center as the phone #) is not actually for the kids.

    It’s a wake-up call for the parents.

43. #43
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:49 pm, mom2jack said:

    #39, are you my long-lost brother/sister? LOL.

44. #44
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:56 pm, feebiebabe said:

    lol –

    “wipe that smirk off your face before I wipe it off for you”!

45. #45
    On October 30th, 2007 at 5:58 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Boomers, Xers, Yers, some good and some bad. Roe v. Wade was decided by a pre-boom Supreme Court.

    But this looks like child-abuse to me. Spank your kid, go to jail, pimp them, get a TV show…

    Have you ever seen an old guy beat the crap out of an Olympian? Put me in the same room with that moron.

46. #46
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:00 pm, ajmontana said:

    “Dont even think about it!

47. #47
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:02 pm, feebiebabe said:

    “If I catch you _____________(place prohibited activity here), it’ll be the last thing you ever do!”

    SO glad I can laugh about this now.

48. #48
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:07 pm, granite said:

    #39 Gothguy:

    “This is my house, I pay the mortgage, I make the rules, so when you start paying the house note, then you can question the rules.”

    “Because I said so, that’s why.”

    “Don’t like what your Mother cooked, fine…starve…this ain’t a restaurant, and your Mother ain’t a short order cook!”

    Man, do those sound familiar!
    LOL!

    How about:

    “The world doesn’t owe you a thing!”

    I know I started smoking when I was 12 (he quit cold-turkey at 32); but idf I ever catch you smoking, I’ll break your neck!”

    “You can have alcohol here in the house (we’re Mediterranean, after all); but, if you ever drink outside when you’re under-age, I’ll break your neck!”

    “Don’t you dare talk to your mother that way, or I’ll break your neck!”

    God love ‘em!

    My folks also were depression-era kids.

    I like to think they raised me right; and that my wife and I raised our kids right.

    Re parents as friends:

    Your parents are always your parents.

    My wife and I are grandparents now.
    My folks and my in-laws haven’t treated us as (generic) “children” for years.
    But, they don’t treat us as peers – they treat us as adults.
    As I said, we are still their kids, as our adult kids are still our kids, not our peers…and we (and our kids) like it that way.

49. #49
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:08 pm, feebiebabe said:

    “Just because “so and so” jumps off a bridge, doesn’t mean you have to do it”?

    (Course, then coming from a family of legal immigrants, there was the amusing ones that my mother couldn’t seem to get straight in English)…Seriously, funny stuff!

    e.g. should be “This is an A and B conversation. You can C your way out.

    My Mom: “This is a conversation between A and B. You choose C. Goodbye”!

    Sorry, Mom. Love you, but I had to!

50. #50
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:09 pm, granite said:

    #19 29Victor:

    “granite

    Almost thought you were endorsing Disco there.

    That was a close one.”

    Aahhhh!!!!

    Never!!!

51. #51
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:09 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Granite – “You can have alcohol here in the house (we’re Mediterranean, after all); but, if you ever drink outside when you’re under-age, I’ll break your neck!”

    DITTO!!! Ahhhhh. lol.

52. #52
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:12 pm, Al in St. Lou said:

    mom2jack,

    To someone who has rudimentary sewing skills, a claim that one cannot make a costume sounds like an admission of laziness. Cloth, needles, and thread don’t really cost much. The skills to use them don’t take long to acquire.

    I wonder how close TeutonicNomad and I are in age.

    I’ve gained a new appreciation of my grandparents now that I’m near the age they were when they first became grandparents. Cooking, sewing, housekeeping, and bookkeeping may be drudgery, but they’re not difficult.

    (And I like the Preview button, thanks.)

53. #53
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:18 pm, feebiebabe said:

    #52 – This is not a luxury everyone has. I think it is great that you are/were able to this for your family.

    Time spent with your kids picking out the costumes is just as important to those kids as making the costumes themselves. Just because some parents are unequipped (not lazy) for this type of activity, shouldn’t allow others the opportunity to pass judgment upon them.

54. #54
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pm, lucnmf said:

    #39 – I agree!!! My parents emigrated from Europe in the late 50′s /early 60′s and didn’t fall into this “timeout” or “take away privileges’” trap. My dad would just beat the ___t out of me.

    Problem is that these are the people that follow the Hillary Clinton “It takes a village” mantra. God help us if she becomes President!

55. #55
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:35 pm, 29Victor said:

    You want to cry? I’ll give you something to cry about.

56. #56
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:39 pm, mom2jack said:

    #53, I cannot sew. My grandmother taught me, but I am simply not good at it. I cook, clean, play with my children, help them with homework, read to them, garden, chauffeur, walk the dog, etc., etc. And that’s AFTER I get home from my job. Yet you have the gall to call me lazy because I don’t pick up a needle and thread. Since this post started with MM talking about a visit to buy a costume for her toddler, I guess you feel the same about her, eh? I won’t waste any more valuable space on this topic, but anyone who knows me would not ever call me lazy! And I’m sure the same can be said for HighDesertWanderer.

57. #57
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:52 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Mom2Jack. just checkin’ but I was on your side. Did you mean the poster #52?

58. #58
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:53 pm, Bad Candy said:

    On October 30th, 2007 at 4:09 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Michelle:

    Thank you so much for brining this up on the Kardashians. My fiancé and I sat there in absolute horror last night watching these shenanigans (I sound like an old woman, I know).

    I don’t even know where to begin but my body temperature hit an all time high when I saw the mother persuading her own daughter to do a nude photo shoot in Playboy. Something her daughter appeared to be entirely uncomfortable with. Yet Mom continued on the persuasive “peer-pressure” path like a manipulative 11th grader, saying “I think it would be really cool, don’t you?” Heh?

    I just about lost my stuff. I looked at my fiancé, with my jaw dropped and said “She is pimping out her children!”

    UN-BELIEVABLE.

    Playboy is way tame for Kim Kardashian, this is the same person who did a pretty raunchy sex tape, and supposedly there’s another floating around, coincidentally I’m sure.

    She is basically another Paris Hilton, a few square inches of fabric away from Playboy anyway, and beyond that, it was apparently a pretty tame spread.

    Its nothing compared to what she had done to her in the tape, I’ll let you look it up if curiousity get the better of you, apparently the tape released edited the worst part out.

59. #59
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:53 pm, Al in St. Lou said:

    Last year, I took the thirteen-year-old to Party City. It was the last year he went trick-or-treating, but he plans on using the same outfit this year while he’s handing out candy at his dad’s house. It’s on a Wednesday this year, and I’m only the stepdad. I’m not condemning anyone. I’m just trying to say that it only takes a few stitches to tack together a costume. The over-ten crowd prefer store-bought costumes, but it’s not difficult to put a costume together. It seems that some are insisting that they can’t when they simply won’t. I’m talking about a costume suitable for an elementary-school-aged kid, not one for a Hollywood production.

60. #60
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:55 pm, Bad Candy said:

    What I’m saying is, its probably an act, she’s an attention whore of the Paris Hilton type, there’s no way she was embarrassed about posing for Playboy, its probably an act for the camera.

61. #61
    On October 30th, 2007 at 6:56 pm, ajmontana said:

    heres one for swj….
    Dont shoot till you see the whites of their eyes!
    

62. #62
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:00 pm, feebiebabe said:

    #60 – I kinda figured that out after my post. Needless to say, I am still astonished that she, as a mother, continues to promote this behavior.

63. #63
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:04 pm, Bad Candy said:

    Eh, why not? Maybe she gets a cut.

64. #64
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:06 pm, feebiebabe said:

    #63 – I understand what you are getting at. I just think with my upbrining, it is just not on the ol’ registar!

65. #65
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:10 pm, ajmontana said:

    Well after seeing some of the videos I have a better understanding where sluts come from.

66. #66
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:11 pm, greenfairie said:

    I saw a few seconds of that Kim Kardashian show while channel surfing and captured in those few seconds was everything absolutely wrong with the popular culture. What a bunch of pathetic losers. Kim and her family make the Osbournes look like The Waltons.

    If I see any kids at my door tomorrow dressed like a pimp or a prostitute, the parents are going to hear it from me.

67. #67
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:13 pm, ajmontana said:

    If you give them candy can you be busted for solicitation?

68. #68
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:22 pm, mom2jack said:

    feebiebabe said:
    Mom2Jack. just checkin’ but I was on your side. Did you mean the poster #52?

    Oh my, yes! Thanks for backing me up, #53!

69. #69
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:32 pm, feebiebabe said:

    I understand that some of the women we speak of here are known for their “ill repute”.

    But can we just lay off some of the slang?

    Much appreciated!

70. #70
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:35 pm, mountainmom said:

    I’m a Gen-X mom of six kids. There is no way on God’s green earth they’d be allowed to wear costumes like the ones described. My eldest daughter is going as Laura Ingalls. Not Naughty Laura or Diva Laura. No bling, no fishnets.

    Her costume features braids, a long gingham dress, bonnet, and an apron. I am proud of her for not going along with the trend to dress as a Bratz doll, like many of her friends.

    Most of my friends are fellow Gen-X parents and we are all pretty strict. My parents are Boomers who were strictish, but they let me dress as a hooker for Halloween in high school (because it was a senior class tradition). I am appalled on my own behalf. I don’t know what they were thinking!

71. #71
    On October 30th, 2007 at 7:58 pm, ajmontana said:

    feebiebabe said,
    But can we just lay off some of the slang?

    Much appreciated

    I’ll trade ya slang for fiance, that word makes me crazy.

72. #72
    On October 30th, 2007 at 8:03 pm, feebiebabe said:

    OK, deal. As long as I don’t have to refer to him as a piece of food, or something too schmatlzy, I can go along with that.

73. #73
    On October 30th, 2007 at 8:04 pm, ajmontana said:

    lol,

74. #74
    On October 30th, 2007 at 8:08 pm, zorro said:

    Not too long ago parents “protected” their children, especially daughters. Now we see idiots on video tape discussing girls gone wild and pole dancing with pre-teens!!! I hope the far left, the free love aged hippies, are proud of their success in corrupting our civilization.

    The videos above are bizarre. May God help us and forgive us.

75. #75
    On October 30th, 2007 at 8:20 pm, 29Victor said:

    Ho, ho, ho.

    Not just for Christmas any more.

76. #76
    On October 30th, 2007 at 8:22 pm, dartagnans_blade said:

    Nothing is going to change in this scummy culture until we start to call for absolute boycotts of all promoters, advertisers and stores that carry and promote this poison. We can bitch and bitch till the cows come home but we have to hit them where it hurts.

77. #77
    On October 30th, 2007 at 8:54 pm, inviolet said:

    Great quotes everyone!

    My mom’s favorites: “It’s not my job to be popular. It’s my job to raise you right.”

    And “If I let you do [X] now, what will you have to look forward to the thrill of when you’re older?”

78. #78
    On October 30th, 2007 at 9:37 pm, nbarry said:

    It now seems quaint that the late Ann Landers argued strenuously against trick-or-treating and favored instead Halloween house parties with plenty of treats and games for the children in a safe and supervised environment.

79. #79
    On October 30th, 2007 at 9:38 pm, kimsch said:

    We had our trick or treating on Sunday from 1 to 5pm. I don’t remember seeing any skanks or pimps. My 7 year old son was Optimus Prime. There were a LOT of Power Rangers and Elmos. Fairy Princesses who were all decently covered, and Hannah Montanas.

80. #80
    On October 30th, 2007 at 9:54 pm, CO of Fort Housewife said:

    mom2jack, may I say this: you rock! Who gives a rip if you can’t sew? Nobody can be a Bree and do it all. I can’t cook like my mother-in-law, but The Man is hardly starving. Good on you.

    On topic, I am not taking my daughter trick-or-treating this year, she is just over a year old. It’s not because I can’t find age appropriate Halloween costumes for her (although in 10 years…), it’s that _I’d_ be the one to eat her candy. That’s not cool. But in 10 years, if she wants to dress as a naughty little Bo Peep, she won’t have anything to fear from me…it will be coming from her Dad.

81. #81
    On October 30th, 2007 at 11:25 pm, Floyd R. Turbo said:

    Didn’t have time to read all the comments but I wanted to pass this along: Last nights local news in Colorado Springs had a story of a mother (or more than one) who was upset at a costume she found in a local Walmart. I didn’t look too close until the end of the piece but one of the costumes, presumably for a young boy, had a monogram or a front piece with the word “PIMP” predominantly displayed. The reporter said that attempts to get the local or national offices of Walmart to comment or answer for it failed.

    The grandmother was on camera saying that her grandson had asked what the word meant and she was telling him to ask his mother. She was not really wanting to have to tell him that much info so young. Point: research Halloween. As Christian parents, we have always stayed away from it. It’s NOT “harmless fun” to begin with. The above stories should at least uphold part of that argument.

    What a wonderful society we have created…God help us. We obviously can’t help ourselves anymore.

82. #82
    On October 31st, 2007 at 12:00 am, Rick Moran said:

    Used to be when the mark of a lady was modesty in dress.

    Times change and I don’t necessarily find women who show a lot of skin unladylike. But are parents crazy? A girl of 9 or 10 dressing and acting like a stripper? Maybe someone should tell those parents how strippers actually make a living and how they live.

    Probably won’t make any difference.

83. #83
    On October 31st, 2007 at 1:27 am, Schweggie said:

    I’m gonna wear a Marcus Luttrell SEAL kit and go trick or treating in Berkley. TRICK OR TREAT LEFTIE Mother F’ers!!

84. #84
    On October 31st, 2007 at 1:34 am, feebiebabe said:

    #83…because you have a death wish?

85. #85
    On October 31st, 2007 at 2:03 am, nbarry said:

    From what I’ve read here about this year’s popular costumes, we may have to change Halloween’s exclamation to “Trick or trick!”

86. #86
    On October 31st, 2007 at 2:35 am, hadsil said:

    I’ve seen this in action. Walking home one day I saw a group of kids playing. A young girl, no more than 12, if that, wanted all the boys to watch her dance like a stripper, prostrating her rear end.

    In a barbershop, a young girl, no more than 5, if that, also danced liked a stripper, swaying her hips.

87. #87
    On October 31st, 2007 at 3:52 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Culture War at it’s finest. Its stuff like this that sheds light on my theory Western civilization will begin to decline and go backwards. All because of personal responsibility. The most advanced civilization known to ever have existed collapsing all because we can’t master our own passions.

88. #88
    On October 31st, 2007 at 8:29 am, CharliePATpk said:

    S’cuse me…

    Exactly how does one go about adding a pole in the middle of the parents (and property owners) bedroom without them knowing??

    Just wait: in 6 years, E!’s gonna have a THS on the two little girls who have gone bad, and the wail of the parents asking WHAT DID SOCIETY DO TO THEM??

89. #89
    On October 31st, 2007 at 11:49 am, misterbee241 said:

    You are all right – this whole thing is pretty disgusting. Just one result of the 60′s sex, drugs and rock and roll.
    I’m not sure how common this is among boomer’s children, like myself, boomers are all pretty much grandparents now. But, it does seem we did not do a good job of passing good values along to the next generation.

90. #90
    On May 12th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, Hadenough said:

    Home schooling in this particular case may not be a good thing.

91. #91
    On May 12th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, tencz58 said:

    This country , Our Country is out of Control . Break the morals and values and break the Nation . It’s all bout You !
    So Sad

92. #92
    On May 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, Scooter36 said:

    Kim Kardashian is super hot!

93. #93
    On May 14th, 2008 at 8:38 am, MrOlympia said:

    Just think, we she pops out a baby within the next few months or inside a couple of years…..Beyonce has some clothing for her daughter!

94. #94
    On May 14th, 2008 at 9:15 pm, Joy said:

    Well, holy crap…

95. #95
    On August 31st, 2009 at 11:48 am, Ragspierre said:

    Of course, we have the certified smart people at the UN now telling us that our children need to start sex orientation at age 5, to include instruction in masturbation, transgender and various other perversions (oh yeah, I AM that NOT PC).

    Another great reason NOT to have children in public schools.