First the University refused to release the security tapes to the police and then they finally backed down and did so. Since then not a single report about what the tapes showed and who the suspects could be.

Don’t the geniuses at Columbia realize that by not releasing the tape they are reinforcing the belief that incident was a hoax?

Yes, but it’s only a belief if they don’t admit it. This is a page out of the Clinton playbook!

On October 30th, 2007 at 9:14 pm, Buck I said:

As a black man, I can say that the last thing I would do if somebody put a noose on my office door is cry to the media.

Buck, I’m impressed by your integrity on not making this an issue and handling his quietly as a black man. I hope other blacks step up as you do and keep instances like this out of the media by not publicly crying about it.

Victims, crybabies…never have impressed me much.

JHSII,
I hope that you are not implying that New York’s Finest are in the liberals’ back pocket.

Actually, the NYPD have been forced to make some very poor decisions by liberal politicians in the past.

A side note – in the ‘Crown Heights Riot’ story that I linked to above, a 1991 Al Sharpton is quoted as calling then Mayor David Dinkins an “Uncle Tom” and “that n#gg#r whore turning tricks in City Hall.” Does anybody remember that?

Umm, now what was it again that Sharpton was so outraged with Imus about…that he strong armed the man out of a job?

Fair enough. As far as Columbia goes, at this point we are still presented with all the possibilities that existed at the very beginning of this case. And in a round about way, I believe I made that point.

And if you think about it, in a way we do have a “witness” here – the video tapes.

But it is strange that this disappeared from the mainstream just as quickly as it appeared. I think from our collective experience, something like this never seems to quiet down. Maybe we need to add extraterrestial interference to our list of possibilities here, since this is pretty unique.

I’ll move from conjecture to pure speculation here, and offer that I do not believe an ivy league professor would pull a stunt like this. That is not saying they don’t do stupid things. After all, most of them ARE democrats.

I’ll piggyback your point on any hoax should also be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.

Conjecture is silly and glib. See Bill O’Reilly on Hornbeck.(Kid was happy to be away from school, blah, blah…..B.S.)

I do not believe offering a reasoned opinion on an issue based on available facts, or lack thereof, is silly and glib.

At this point in the investigation, the police have reviewed the tapes, conducted interviews, and obtained at least preliminary DNA information from the tests they conducted early on.

In my view blind conjecture would be where you did not bother to assess all the pertinent facts or made an assumption based on a lack of factual information to support the premises that build your assumption. Jesse and Al have made a career our of that.

Conjecture certainly was enough to put the Duke rape case front and center for months. Conjecture was enough to get the world press focused on a little town called Jena. Now that the facts are out on the former and coming out on the latter, both matters seem to have been driven by nothing more than conjecture.

This case is different. It is the silence here that raises issues, particularly after the passage of a reasonable amount of time. Now, if we stick to the classic definition of conjecture, the discussion here probably meets that definition. But the process of conjecture is how crimes get solved, how theories in science are developed, and is part and parcel as to how the human mind works in exercising the faculty of common sense.

If someone did hang a noose on the professors door, they should and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. However, if this turns out to be a hoax or publicity stunt, to me that is more than a “setback”, and the perpetrators involved should likewise be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I’m shocked, shocked!

As a black man, I can say that the last thing I would do if somebody put a noose on my office door is cry to the media. I wasn’t raised to be a victim, and I wouldn’t want the perpetrator to get the satisfaction of getting national attention. I would want it handled internally, or personally(if it’s a threat, “want some, come get some”). As an adult, I wouldn’t want too much spotlight on the situation. Children are different…protection concerns and teaching tools.

We’ll see how this turns out. If it’s a hoax, it’s disgusting and a setback. If it’s real, I hope MM posts what happen.
Conjecture is silly and glib. See Bill O’Reilly on Hornbeck.(Kid was happy to be away from school, blah, blah…..B.S.)

#3 chapoutier said:

JHSII,

I hope that you are not implying that New York’s Finest are in the liberals’ back pocket.

No, not in the slightest. I’m saying that no matter how good New York’s Finest are, if they can’t get the cooperation of the real racists then there’s little they can do because the real racists can and will block them.

That speaks volumes.