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	<title>Comments on: The vote on LOST: American sovereignty on the line; Vote&#8211;17-4, LOST moves to the Senate floor</title>
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		<title>By: Political Napalm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LOST &#38; S-CHIP: 2 Acronyms You&#8217;ll Live to Regret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Napalm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LOST &#38; S-CHIP: 2 Acronyms You&#8217;ll Live to Regret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but to inform and infuriate the most recent travesties of the moment: LOST (turning over US sovereignty to the UN, about to be put to the Senate floor), and S-CHIP (HillaryCare for illegals…now being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but to inform and infuriate the most recent travesties of the moment: LOST (turning over US sovereignty to the UN, about to be put to the Senate floor), and S-CHIP (HillaryCare for illegals…now being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thursday, 1 Nov. 2007.

So, what happened on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thursday, 1 Nov. 2007.</p>
<p>So, what happened on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Bluey Blog &#124; Robert B. Bluey &#187; Four Republicans Reject Law of the Sea Treaty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluey Blog &#124; Robert B. Bluey &#187; Four Republicans Reject Law of the Sea Treaty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin provided updates throughout the debate, making special note of Sen. David Vitter&#8217;s (R-La.) reasonable request for another hearing on LOST. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Joe Biden (D-Del.) rejected any attempts by conservatives to delay consideration and chastised conservatives Frank Gaffney and Fred Smith for their opposition. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michelle Malkin provided updates throughout the debate, making special note of Sen. David Vitter&#8217;s (R-La.) reasonable request for another hearing on LOST. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Joe Biden (D-Del.) rejected any attempts by conservatives to delay consideration and chastised conservatives Frank Gaffney and Fred Smith for their opposition. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TK-421</title>
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		<dc:creator>TK-421</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Igm, this is mainly aimed at you, you seem from my readings here that you are a teacher. So you posses knowledge, but that&#039;s not the same as Wisdom. You say we would get mining rights and such in return? What good are they with no force to secure them? 

If you backlash with &quot;Well there won&#039;t be other Navy&#039;s on the globe&quot; then let me point out it doesn&#039;t take much to make a bomb, RPG, or Machinegun and mount them on a speed boat. OR In the case of 1936 Germany a nation can build up a navy in secret and take those resources when others have no means to stop them. Afterall China has built two new SSBNs (one a new class) right under the USN&#039;s nose, in the modern High Tech age!

 

Our Great fleets will be limited to coastal deployment, and in the false hope of Peace, the fleet will grow small to the point that its reach would be easy to overcome and destroy. Currently we have no enemy capable of such, but remember the British were once our mortal enemies. I have no desire to end up with my head on a chopping block waiting for an axe to come down on it. Personally I love military power and advantage. May sound arcane, but remember if we do this it will hold true. Why buy what you can take? Human Nature is capable of anything. I leave you all to your thoughts this with a quote,

From Time immemorial, the purpose of a navy has been to influence and sometimes decide, issues on land. This was so with the Greeks of antiquity; the Romans, who created a navy to defeat Carthage; the Spanish, whose Armada tried and failed to conquer England; and, most eminently, in the Atlantic and Pacific during two world wars. The sea has always given men inexpensive transport and ease of communication over long distances. It has also provided concealment, because being over the horizon meant being out of sight and effectively beyond reach. The Sea has supplied mobility, capability, and support throughout Western history, and those failing in the Sea-power test - notably Alexander, Napoleon and Hitler also failed the longevity one.  

 

Edward L. Beach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Igm, this is mainly aimed at you, you seem from my readings here that you are a teacher. So you posses knowledge, but that&#8217;s not the same as Wisdom. You say we would get mining rights and such in return? What good are they with no force to secure them? </p>
<p>If you backlash with &#8220;Well there won&#8217;t be other Navy&#8217;s on the globe&#8221; then let me point out it doesn&#8217;t take much to make a bomb, RPG, or Machinegun and mount them on a speed boat. OR In the case of 1936 Germany a nation can build up a navy in secret and take those resources when others have no means to stop them. Afterall China has built two new SSBNs (one a new class) right under the USN&#8217;s nose, in the modern High Tech age!</p>
<p>Our Great fleets will be limited to coastal deployment, and in the false hope of Peace, the fleet will grow small to the point that its reach would be easy to overcome and destroy. Currently we have no enemy capable of such, but remember the British were once our mortal enemies. I have no desire to end up with my head on a chopping block waiting for an axe to come down on it. Personally I love military power and advantage. May sound arcane, but remember if we do this it will hold true. Why buy what you can take? Human Nature is capable of anything. I leave you all to your thoughts this with a quote,</p>
<p>From Time immemorial, the purpose of a navy has been to influence and sometimes decide, issues on land. This was so with the Greeks of antiquity; the Romans, who created a navy to defeat Carthage; the Spanish, whose Armada tried and failed to conquer England; and, most eminently, in the Atlantic and Pacific during two world wars. The sea has always given men inexpensive transport and ease of communication over long distances. It has also provided concealment, because being over the horizon meant being out of sight and effectively beyond reach. The Sea has supplied mobility, capability, and support throughout Western history, and those failing in the Sea-power test &#8211; notably Alexander, Napoleon and Hitler also failed the longevity one.  </p>
<p>Edward L. Beach.</p>
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		<title>By: gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an article years ago that both Bushes were in some secret society at YALE that promotes a one world government.

They are very select in the members.....many in high powered positions over the years have joined.

They cannot discuss anything about this secret group.

It is in NO WAY productive in promoting conservative values.  

Do some research and you&#039;ll find out for yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an article years ago that both Bushes were in some secret society at YALE that promotes a one world government.</p>
<p>They are very select in the members&#8230;..many in high powered positions over the years have joined.</p>
<p>They cannot discuss anything about this secret group.</p>
<p>It is in NO WAY productive in promoting conservative values.  </p>
<p>Do some research and you&#8217;ll find out for yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
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		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I think is going on:

Total war is about to erupt in the Caspian region of the Asian subcontinent.

Prize:  a 4 trillion dollar oil payday.

UN is afraid the US will pull out of the Circus Tent and toss the Circus Tent out of New York. Why? Because most of those mudhens are in cahoots with each other and we will be pounding their nexus down to their collective solar plexus.  And they know it.  It is time to get out of Dodge and have offshore security.

So it comes up with an unconscionable proposal it knows won&#039;t pass, but Dhimmicrats and Bush put up like they like it to make nicey nice.

Then the Treaty gets tanked (it only takes 34 Repubs to sink this? lol cool- tank this puppy.)and the real whoring begins.

The US pays bribes to the entire Security Council in form of foreign aid so these pigs can feed and fuel their own countries.

It&#039;s a shakedown scam.  And it is an old way of doing business by Department of State and the Clintonista Pentagon.

Bush isn&#039;t going to put a stop to it because he still  thinks the same way- even though he has turned Iraq into al-Qaeda&#039;s Vietnam.  But he is so hypersensitive to Left criticism about not &quot;working with our allies&quot; (French idiom for selling our country out to the UN &quot;security&quot; council).

The treaty wont pass (and we should ensure it doesn&#039;t) but be on the look out for large payouts to these scum bags under the &quot;foreign aid&quot; ledger.

PS:  These scum bags need the money now because war in the Middle East is about to escalate 10 fold.  Say goodbye to Sadr City and half of Tehran.  So they want some cash up front because they are going to need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I think is going on:</p>
<p>Total war is about to erupt in the Caspian region of the Asian subcontinent.</p>
<p>Prize:  a 4 trillion dollar oil payday.</p>
<p>UN is afraid the US will pull out of the Circus Tent and toss the Circus Tent out of New York. Why? Because most of those mudhens are in cahoots with each other and we will be pounding their nexus down to their collective solar plexus.  And they know it.  It is time to get out of Dodge and have offshore security.</p>
<p>So it comes up with an unconscionable proposal it knows won&#8217;t pass, but Dhimmicrats and Bush put up like they like it to make nicey nice.</p>
<p>Then the Treaty gets tanked (it only takes 34 Repubs to sink this? lol cool- tank this puppy.)and the real whoring begins.</p>
<p>The US pays bribes to the entire Security Council in form of foreign aid so these pigs can feed and fuel their own countries.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shakedown scam.  And it is an old way of doing business by Department of State and the Clintonista Pentagon.</p>
<p>Bush isn&#8217;t going to put a stop to it because he still  thinks the same way- even though he has turned Iraq into al-Qaeda&#8217;s Vietnam.  But he is so hypersensitive to Left criticism about not &#8220;working with our allies&#8221; (French idiom for selling our country out to the UN &#8220;security&#8221; council).</p>
<p>The treaty wont pass (and we should ensure it doesn&#8217;t) but be on the look out for large payouts to these scum bags under the &#8220;foreign aid&#8221; ledger.</p>
<p>PS:  These scum bags need the money now because war in the Middle East is about to escalate 10 fold.  Say goodbye to Sadr City and half of Tehran.  So they want some cash up front because they are going to need it.</p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
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		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would John Bolton do?</description>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
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		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 31st, 2007 at 11:17 am, Jaded said: 
What in the hell has happened to the President I voted for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt;the President you voted for.  He is part of the Globalist Cabal that controls the White House.

Phase One: Bush I
Phase Two: Bill Clinton (terms 1 and 2)
Phase Three: Bush II (terms 1 and 2)
Phase Four: Queen Hillary (Terms 1 and 2)

Essential to the Globalist agenda is to fully discredit the US military, as though it needs to be under the control of the UN (a gang of Arabist dupes).

It wont pass despite the Globalist power in the equation to take this country down.

No other thesis explains the assault on the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On October 31st, 2007 at 11:17 am, Jaded said:<br />
What in the hell has happened to the President I voted for.</p></blockquote>
<p>This <strong>is</strong>the President you voted for.  He is part of the Globalist Cabal that controls the White House.</p>
<p>Phase One: Bush I<br />
Phase Two: Bill Clinton (terms 1 and 2)<br />
Phase Three: Bush II (terms 1 and 2)<br />
Phase Four: Queen Hillary (Terms 1 and 2)</p>
<p>Essential to the Globalist agenda is to fully discredit the US military, as though it needs to be under the control of the UN (a gang of Arabist dupes).</p>
<p>It wont pass despite the Globalist power in the equation to take this country down.</p>
<p>No other thesis explains the assault on the US.</p>
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		<title>By: ajmontana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajmontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard him and snausage are dating JS. :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard him and snausage are dating JS. <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe wiretapping, like treaties and marriages, should be voluntary (except with a warrant): &lt;/blockquote&gt;

(In Arabic) &quot;This call for fatwah may be recorded.  If you do not wish to have infidels know of your plan to kill thousands of innocents, please hang up, or to hear this warning in English, please press 1.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe wiretapping, like treaties and marriages, should be voluntary (except with a warrant): </p></blockquote>
<p>(In Arabic) &#8220;This call for fatwah may be recorded.  If you do not wish to have infidels know of your plan to kill thousands of innocents, please hang up, or to hear this warning in English, please press 1.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: J S Ragman</title>
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		<dc:creator>J S Ragman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 - ajmontana

Haven&#039;t seen your buddy toolshed around lately.  Did he go away mad, or just go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 &#8211; ajmontana</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t seen your buddy toolshed around lately.  Did he go away mad, or just go away?</p>
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		<title>By: 30 pcs of silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>30 pcs of silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still in agreement. CPODUG. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still in agreement. CPODUG. <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Milwaukee Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milwaukee Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; lgm said: 
some stupid stuff&lt;/blockquote&gt;

lgm, typically talks in platitudes and now engages us with his witty analogies to further his rehetoric.

OK then, the US is our good friend the bridegroom.  What most of the people here agree on is that they wish to stop this marriage as the bride-to-be is an evil siren, who is going to lead him into danger.

There, I even threw in the nautical lore to match the theme.  Now please go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> lgm said:<br />
some stupid stuff</p></blockquote>
<p>lgm, typically talks in platitudes and now engages us with his witty analogies to further his rehetoric.</p>
<p>OK then, the US is our good friend the bridegroom.  What most of the people here agree on is that they wish to stop this marriage as the bride-to-be is an evil siren, who is going to lead him into danger.</p>
<p>There, I even threw in the nautical lore to match the theme.  Now please go away.</p>
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		<title>By: On-my-soap-box</title>
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		<dc:creator>On-my-soap-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet all 17 for had (D) next to their name.

Can we get a link to the vote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet all 17 for had (D) next to their name.</p>
<p>Can we get a link to the vote?</p>
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		<title>By: 24Klady</title>
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		<dc:creator>24Klady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservatives have twisted, wobbled, and still continue signing onto things that will surely get their constituents in a knot.  The libs have played it beautifully and I&#039;m predicting a landslide Nov.&#039;08 for the Dems.  I&#039;ve not ever witnessed so many upset/disgusted conservatives - and fail to see the magic in any candidate worth my vote. Bush has been taken over by Kucinich&#039;s aliens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservatives have twisted, wobbled, and still continue signing onto things that will surely get their constituents in a knot.  The libs have played it beautifully and I&#8217;m predicting a landslide Nov.&#8217;08 for the Dems.  I&#8217;ve not ever witnessed so many upset/disgusted conservatives &#8211; and fail to see the magic in any candidate worth my vote. Bush has been taken over by Kucinich&#8217;s aliens.</p>
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