Race-hustling charlatan Al Sharpton prepares another demagogue-a-thon
Thanks to his bipartisan enablers in politics and the media, race-hustling charlatan Al Sharpton never lacks a stage. Yesterday, still coasting on the Jena Six fumes, he announced an anti-hate crimes demonstration that will take place Nov. 16 in Washington, D.C., outside the Justice Department. He’s targeting both the Bush administration and Democrats who haven’t pandered enough to him and his small flock of career grievance-mongers:
Civil rights activist Al Sharpton complained on Tuesday that the Democratic presidential candidates have been less than forceful in speaking out about recent hate crimes and the policies of President Bush’s Justice Department.
The New York-based reverend was in Washington with Martin Luther King III and other activists to discuss a march next week at the headquarters of the Justice Department, which they contend has taken no serious action to prosecute a spate of recent noose-hanging incidents following the Jena Six case.
Sharpton said he was upset those issues weren’t discussed last month at a debate among the Democratic candidates.
“Hate crimes and racism and Jena never came up one time. Even the Democrats have not, in our judgment, raised their voices to the level they should,” said Sharpton, who ran for president in 2004. “Don’t come to us for our vote and then not speak about our needs when you’re center stage.”
The march’s organizers plan to walk around Justice Department headquarters, located on Pennsylvania Avenue between the White House and Capitol Hill, seven times “just like Joshua marched around the walls of Jericho” Sharpton said.
Why any responsible mainstream media organization or political candidate continues to give this hate crime-hoaxing smear merchant and malicious racial demagogue oxygen is beyond me. Is it really worth the entertainment value and eyeballs to continue propping up this poisonous snake who is irrelevant to the vast majority of decent Americans of all colors?
As for the supposed reluctance of politicians to follow the pied piper of racial grievance-mongering, the myths surrounding the Jena Six case, coupled with the exposure of more and more Tawana Brawley-esque fake hate cases, are reason enough to stay away without charlatan Sharpton leading the parade.
But they won’t stay away.
They always go back to Sharpton–kissing his ring, welcoming him to their table, preaching at his pulpit, giving him airtime. The same people who now decry the injustice done to the Duke University lacrosse players cluelessly continue to embrace Sharpton and treat him as a moral, credible voice on race matters.
Challenge: How about offering equal time to Steve Pagones every time Sharpton is booked to appear on the air to inveigh against racial injustice and hate crimes?
That would be must-see TV.
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The sad thing about rev al is that several months ago he here in West Memphis, AR protesting a police shooting of a 12 year old child after the kid pointed a gun at the officer and the officer was cleared yesterday of federal civil rights charges.
More info can be found here
So it remains to be seen whether al will come back or just moveon dot org to the next thug needing the victim treatment.
GSP
Ultra-liberal, zero-tolerance demands for tolerance such as this:
lead PC idiocy like this:
Is this the society you want to live in?
I agree with many here who pointedly denoted that Al & Jesse are what they are – frauds. Big time frauds. They don’t have to apologize for any of their missteps no matter how egregious. They have added nothing of value to race relations. They fly in the face of everything holy. They make victims out of perpetrators. And the victims – well, who cares.
The moment the MSM stops lending credence to thugs, namely Jesse and Al is the moment they slip into the annals of obscurity.
They don’t speak for me. Never did, never will.
OK. I’ve read the Bible all the way through several times, and in several different translations. I re-read the passage that Mr. Al refers to, but I can’t seem to locate the part where God tells Joshua to make a spectacle of himself in order to give himself feelings of self-importance and to be the center of attention. Instead Joshua brought attention to the Lord, by, first, following His directives to the letter, and then by devoting Jericho and everything within it’s, now broken, walls to Him. I see no hint of grandstanding on Joshua’s part. Sharpton is in no way a man of God.
More college political correctness was reported this morning on the local radio station. It appears Boise State University will not allow the Veteran’s Affairs Office to organize a 21 gun salute to honor veterans at 1200 hours Monday on campus. The excuse by the leftist Administration is due to recent events it would be considered appropriate. There is a large block of mostly Air Force veterans going to school working on their degrees after either retiring from 20+ years of service or after being honorable discharged and settling in the local area along with many returning veteran’s wanting to better their station through education. There have also been 8 alumni from the school who have paid the ultimate price in Iraq and Afghanistan allowing the rest of us to go on with our daily lives. Folks have been calling in and are hoping mad about this. One good thing about the folks in Idaho they are true American patriots. I will draft a flaming e-mail to the administration myself a little latter in the day when I can contain myself from including any four letter words. Too bad our F-15 fleet is grounded due to the Missouri Air National Guard and F-15E strike on the Administration Building would work a little better than a 60s style sit-in to fight the power of our stuck on stupid College Administrators in this country. I am one pissed off veteran and have had it! Wonder if this will affect the BSU football fans in supporting them.
RetFireman (#98) –
I am sorry about your friend, that is tragic.
I completely agree with your post. I have never understood why the race of the people involved in crimes mattered from a legal standpoint. If a person is attacked or robbed or killed or has any other crime committed against them, shouldn’t the perpetrator be punished the same way he would be if both the victim and the attacker were white?
This is why I’m so confused over the Jena case. If six white kids beat another white kid, what punishment would they face…? Shouldn’t the Jena 6 face those same charges? And the same goes for the white students involved too. Whatever crimes or misdemeanors they may have committed (I don’t know the whole history of the case) they should be punished as any student would be. Besides, even if the Jena 6 were treated unfairly, they did still attack that kid… why are they being treated as celebrities?
They didn’t talk enough about the Caucasian boy who was beaten? Because I’m SURE that’s what the good Reverend is getting at IN ADDITION to the nooses…..
Something tells me if it hadn’t been for the ropes, well, Sharpton would’ve blown this off as quickly as the Duke case.
Sorry, Reverend, but the democrats are too busy trying to regulate talk radio to worry about that.
JSR:
So interesting you leave out the most important part of the article. And you accuse other people of idiocy?
This is from the Columbus Dispatch article that YOU quoted:
Is this the society YOU want to live in?
#107 Dark Knight
No, and I don’t think this is the type of society we do live in. From these reports you would think the streets are lined with nooses hanging menacingly. I personally have never seen one, nobody I know has ever told me of one they have seen, and doubt you have ever seen one. As for as howling mobs go, I’d say that is a far better description of the followers of Al Sharpton than the overwhelming majority of American.
The hate crimes debate always pops up here and it always strikes me as incredibly silly. Were the 9/11 hijackers guilty of 3000 murders or were they guilty of something more than that? They were guilty of more than just murder. They were guilty of terrorizing the American people.
Hate crimes are the same.
If a black person is beat up for walking in a “white” area or if a noose is hung on a tree when blacks are hanging out on a typically white spot…that is terrorism. You are telling people, not just the specific victims but every black person in these communities that living their everyday lives will have terrible consequences. The Shephard case wasn’t just about a gay man being horribly assaulted and left to die. It was a terrorist attack on every gay person in that area. If you hit on a straight man, these are the consequences. Every gay man is terrorized.
Yes. They. Are.
They say give a monkey a typewriter and in a million years he will produce a master piece. So are you going to be the one that reads all the rough drafts?
This man has no integrity to speak on such an important matter. I will listen to peoples opinion that I respect or even if they just sound rational. So, YES…I will dismiss anything he says because I don’t have a million years for him to say something worth listening to. And since he has no integrity, I probably wouldn’t believe him when he did.
FYI: The KKK lynched over 1000 white people as well. Hanging has been around for thousands of years and taken many of life. The noose is not a black thing…it’s a death thing!
Something makes the news, and people go looking to imitate it, hoping for their 15 minutes of fame. How hard is that to understand?
It’s not like people magically learned to be racist in the last 10 weeks, it’s not (in my humble opinion) an expression of increasing racism.
Rusty,
Bringing imagery to an issue that no one here has denied doesn’t make your statement about black people being a protected class anymore true.
I am black and I have no desire to be a member of anyone’s protected class. It rings like affirmative action and reparations.
It’s insulting actually for you to think that my life is more important than another. I think that’s a ridiculous argument.
Besides, not many crimes are committed out of love. There is no need for hate crimes. There are laws on the books that deal with murder, rape, assault, etc…
Have you read the myths about Jena that Michelle posted? It would behoove you to do so.
This is simply untrue. Even if it were it would not be terrorism…
How is it not terrorism? The result of these hate crimes is a group of people afraid to show up in certain areas or afraid to live their lives as they say fit.
I like this definition:
Hate crimes apply.
I don’t think that. I think we’re all equal. I just think the terrorist aspect of these crimes warrants extra punishment.
And it’s not like hate crimes legislation protects only minorities. It protects everyone. If I get attacked for being white in Southeast DC, that is a hate crime and should be prosecuted as such.
Who is afraid, the white kid who was beaten by your beloved Jena 6?
Did you bother to read the myths Michelle posted? This would clear up alot of confusion. As your argument is based on things that did not happen.
This subject isn’t about racism it is about exploiting racial division, in our country…we don’t need to separate ourselves even more, then we already are, we need more cohesion-glue. We are at War, We have National security concerns, Trade imbalances, I think the country’s public school system is !@$#%!
There are so many American Issues, that are not dependent on ethnicity or political idealogy, that Americans can get together on…the MSM isn’t going to bring up these issue because you don’t get ratings reporting on what works in America. Laura Ingraham wrote a book about the “Purple Issues” Sam Waterson started Unity 08. They won’t get the attention that the train wrecks like Rosie and Britney get because they are not sensational. Americans are being conditioned by the Main Stream Media. The MSM is not reflecting American Life back to us, they are going for the cheap and easy sensational “events” I believe these “events in the above article” being reported – saturating the MSM, is to distract us and keep the Black Voting Block, whipped up, for the upcoming Presidential Election…MSM manipulation. People need to talk to each other, not at each other.
Aside from the fact that the first part of your post didn’t make any sense, I will respond to your accusation of not listening to Rev. Al Sharpton. If you don’t want to hear what Rev. Sharpton has to say, go right ahead! Bring up previous cases to justify your position. It is your right.
What I’m saying is that it is not appropiate to dismiss legit cases where racial inequality is present, based solely on the credibility of person. For example, I see all sorts of posts about Rev. Sharpton on MichelleMalkin.com, as well as Rev. Jackson, but have seen no opinion from Ms. Malkin concerning instances where nooses have been found such as the U.S. Coast Guard barracks, the University of Maryland, etc.
Why is that?
I will hypothesize that the purpose of calling people “race baiters” “race hustlers” etc. is not so much to talk about the racial issues they are discussing, but merely to talk about the person making the accusation.
Give credit where credit is due, I was pleasantly surprised to see her follow up on the Columbia University noose incident, but not before Rick Moran and others accused the professor of placing the noose there herself. To the best of my knowledge, they have yet to backtrack on their accusations.
So these complaints just came out of nowhere?
They are a reality in our society currently. Wake up.
Ummmm, no, high schoolers don’t get arrested for 15 minutes of fame. That argument doesn’t fly.
Laree:
The MSM is not reflecting American Life back to us, they are going for the cheap and easy sensational “events”
You bring several interesting points. But it was CNN who brought the investigation into why nooses are popping up all over the place.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/siu/the.noose/
This is not sensational, etc. etc. etc. This is a problem that has Americans justifiably concerned.
DarkKnight –
I’m sure jsr doesn’t need my help, but I think your response to jsr’s comments above was misdirected.
My interpretation of the comment “No, and I don’t think this is the type of society we do live in” was not that there are no racists or racist incidents. You are right, the complaints and incidents you are citing do exist, I don’t think jsr denied that. It sounded more like saying that these incidents are not the norm.
Where I went to high school, it was much more common for black students to act with hostility toward white students. That, of course, is not to say that there are not white people who are outright racist. It’s just not so widespread as people seem to be claiming. At least not anywhere I have lived (all confined to the Midwest.)
To clarify, I was pleasantly surprised to see Ms. Malkin follow up on the noose at Columbia.
Rick Moran and others speculated that the Professor herself placed it on her own door.
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/why-wont-columbia-university-release-the-noose-security-video/
Post #75
RaisedRight, fair enough if that’s what he was trying to say.
So you don’t see one every day when you are driving to work. And you don’t see one on every other house as you walk your dog.
Does that mean it doesn’t exist?
Is 50 noose complaints not enough to warrant attention?
How many is too many?
Do they have to start popping up in the Midwest for you to start caring?
jsr #108:
And how, pray tell, do you know that?
Dark Knight,
I think some of these events are copy cats, people- disturbed or otherwise see what is getting attention in the MSM and the phenom starts popping up…getting a cheap thrill, that something they did, got reported on -attention. I know that was a concern brought up when there were so many school shootings, the MSM wanted to cover the story but didn’t want to encourage copy cats. Then there is this people- news outlets are actively looking for the events and compiling them. Are they new or finally piercing the MSM membrane? Then there is hype people want to bring attention to their cause and fake events..I am not saying that is what happened at Columbia University to this date, I still have not read or heard, who hung the noose on the Professor’s door. I am waiting for the investigation into the event to be reported.
#108 Dark Horse
I am interested. How many have you seen and where?
Laree,
You and me both! I’m very much interested in finding out who did it! I hope that the interest remains so that either the tape is released, or at least some insight into what happened at Columbia. I am honestly not sure how many are copy cats and how many wanted to send a message. How can we ever know for sure? Does it matter?
We read about school shooting all the time. Some of them are legit hatred. Some of them are copy cat in nature. That does not make the copy cats any more dangerous does it not?
jsr, for crying out loud. Does it matter? If I’ve seen a noose, or if I haven’t seen a noose, it doesn’t take away from the fact that nooses are symbols of hate. They, along with other racial symbols don’t belong in our society. The swatiska stands as a symbol of hate. If a person has seen one in real life, does that give them the right to be more angry than those who have read about them in history books?
This is taking away from the real issue and you know it.
jsr, I’m interested in your response to the article I posted about the supervisor who has two nooses in his office a dartboard with a black persons face in the middle?
Or the Indiana State nooses?
Or the University of Maryland nooses?
Or the Coast Guard nooses? (both instances)
See the Infinite monkey theorem
Those are the reasons why people don’t listen to him. We don’t RESPECT him. He has NO integrity.
It is appropriate. It’s human nature to not believe someone that we do not respect and that has NO integrity. But, I will do my own research…such as in the case in Jena.
Correct. If we all had a group hug they would be out of business. Actually, they would find a way to divide us. The point is…they get in the way of the issue at hand because they are “race baiters” and “race hustlers”. The issues are what is important and what needs to be addressed, NOT there need for self importance.
If a person has seen one in real life (a costume for example), does that give them the right to be more angry than those who have read about them in history books?
DarkKnight (#121) –
I think you are pushing it here. I never said that, because I hadn’t heard of these things happening in the Midwest, I didn’t care. In fact, I never claimed that it didn’t happen in the Midwest.
I appreciate civil debate, but please think before you try to put words in my mouth.
I was just relating my personal experiences and informing you that these experiences are limited to the areas I have lived: Illinois, Iowa, and Missouri.
Real racism and racist threats, no matter where, are descpicable and people responsible should be stopped.
You are clearly great at finding articles of racist incidents, however, those are, undeniably, specific isolated incidents. As far as I can tell from my years on this earth, for the majority of people these things aren’t going on around them all of the time. These horrible cases should be handled as they come but not treated as a rising epidemic amongst whites in the U.S.
Dark Horse,
My point is this. This is a very large country, more that 300 million people and there will always be some outrageous, idiotic behavior by some people. These examples you cite make the news because they are examples of atypical behavior (i.e. newsworthy)but then are used by certain people as evidence of endemic, institutional racism in American society. I maintain they are newsworthy because they are exceptions.
And yes, I do think somebody that was actually enslaved or suffered through a Nazi death camp should be far more angrier about these things than somebody reading about it later in history.
Eric, at least get my screen name right.
But I digress.
I apologize for my misunderstanding about the Infinite Monkey Theorum. It actually is quite interesting.
Anyway, did you miss my quote about “legit cases where racial inequality?”
There are instances where there is no question about what message a person hanging a noose is trying to send. But we lose sight of them by trying to destroy the messenger. The Jena case has its question marks on both sides. But I do not think that all racial problems in this country are created just to keep Rev. Sharpton and Rev. Jackson in business.
Fair point. So why not have a post on MichelleMalkin.com where we have a discussion on racial issues in this country? Why not have a thread on the meaning of symbols to minorities such as the Noose or the Confederate Flag???
I would love to have a discussion on this site about that! I’m sure a lot of people feel very passionately about the Confederate Flag, both for and against. There are plenty of people who never want to see a noose… ever. Then there are some who feel that a Halloween decoratation shouldn’t be taken down because it could offend somebody.
We would ALL benefit from such a discussion… Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Black, White, Latino. Just a calm, intelligent discussion.
But we won’t see that here. We just want to make fun of Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson all day.
RaisedRight, if you think I was trying to put words in your mouth, that was not my intent and I regret if you that is what you took away from my post.
Allow my to clarify. Are nooses as widespread as a post office boxes in the United States? No. Are they sometimes used in Halloween decorations? Yes.
Does a spike in the number of noose reports cause concern? Absolutely. Whether or not more nooses are being created, or whether they are being reported more often in the MSM, is really irrelavent. In fact, it is more alarming if there are the same number of nooses being created, but just haven’t been reported as often. That would mean that this country has a serious problem that we now have to confront.
JSR, I reread what I typed in post #124 and sought to clarify my position by reposting in post #128.
I agree with you that the personal experience of the Holocaust does justify more anger than reading it in history books.
My point was that if you were a guest at the party where Prince Harry wore the costume, you would have seen a swatiska in “real life.” But that person doesn’t have the right to say that they are more entitled to speak on issues relating to the hate symbol, just because they saw it in person and not a person who read about it the next day in the newspaper.
DarkKnight –
So, you say yourself that there is an issue of the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world obscuring the real issues. It sounds to me then, that Sharpton constitutes a real, valid issue himself and is therefore an acceptable discussion topic. This thread is about Sharpton. You want a thread on racial issues, and that is great, but I don’t see that as a valid reason to dismiss our discussing (and yes, making fun of) Al Sharpton here.
Now speaking of putting words in people’s mouths… I never said that Revs. Jackson and Sharpton obscured the issues. Becuse sometimes their celebrity has sparked legitimate racial discussion in the country. Sometimes. I said that I get bothered when the attacking on the person gets in the way of the issues.
As far as this thread, it started to turn around post #46 when people starting accusing Rev. Sharpton of “manufactured racism.”
As a black Christian Conservative, I say you’re giving UN-Reverend Al too much cred and attention. The product of this event is meaningless. It just presents Al more media hype for his next crusade.
DarkKnight,
I apologize, I thought you had said that Sharpton deflected focus from real issues of race, perhaps I was thinking of a post by Rusty. (It can be hard to go back and reasearch the previous posts when I am just occasionally checking in from my desk at work.)
Sorry.
That was me…and my point. He hurts the cause…You know, The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
That was also supposed to touch on the other topic of ‘manufactured news’. Which is at least…a little funny
Yes, and that was the point I’m making…He takes the ‘Le’ out of legit and just leaves the git; as in git attention.
DarkKnight
If true he should be fired immediatly. I think we can agree on this, if nothing else.
Back to work, no more time to post today.
DarkKnight, your response,
“Ummmm, no, high schoolers don’t get arrested for 15 minutes of fame. That argument doesn’t fly.”
doesn’t make any sense.
I don’t see how it’s in any way relevant to what I was saying. People do all sorts of ridiculous things for attention (look at Al Sharpton!), and there are plenty willing to risk arrest for that attention.
Whether or not more nooses are being created, or whether they are being reported more often in the MSM, is really irrelavent.
How is it irrelevant. It’s absolutely relevant. The former case would represent an actual increase in racism, the latter indicates that sensationalism is taking place!
In fact, it is more alarming if there are the same number of nooses being created, but just haven’t been reported as often.
Haven’t been reported as often as what. . .the greater frequency that they’re suddenly being reported? That’s like some sort of logical moebius loop. Plus, you left out the third option. That there may in fact have been a trend of fewer nooses, up until the point at which they started getting reported more often…at which point their frequency increased. One could make an argument in that case, that the nooses were driven not by hate per se, but by the sudden media exposure itself!
JSR, Raised Right and Eric…
enjoyed the discussion. Looking forward to the next one.
Dark Knight,
The advent of youtube shows young kids doing dumb stuff to get attention. Then there was don’t taze me bro, one of my faves..
This summer there was a movie, Pirates of the Caribbean, Worlds End. This movie started with nooses- not about ethnicity, so it has been recently re introduced into the American Consciousness. Yes I can see how the symbol would be sensitive to different demographics of the American Public…I also know kids today are not all exposed to our American history old or recent. If they were educated to the symbol of the noose, do they have any boundries, sensiblities some sensitivity to the subject? Go back to my comment on where we all have common ground, the state of the public school system !@$#@.
Ok Laree, kids are kids. OK. It just does add up with the Coast Guard nooses, the public works SUPERVISOR nooses and others.
Why are people so afraid to admit that racism still exists?
Dark Knight
I am saying that it does exists but to what degree? There is a compiling of incidences, going on now in the Media now. Are all the incidences happening for the same motivation?
DarkKnight –
I missed the comment where someone said that racism doesn’t exist. Did someone here say that?
Funny you should ask that!
RaisedRight, it’s all the liberals fault!
(/sarc)
I don’t defend everything that is said on this site, but I didn’t see in any of those comments where the posters said that racism does not exist.
You know, I’m sure there is racism. There’s all kinds of bad things everywhere in the world, but WHY is Al Sharpton always in the middle of it everytime someone says or does something bad. He’s a hypocrite and, well, HE’S a lot of bad things. He truly disgusts me and I have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. So tell me why do people rally around him? Why is he offered free publicity on talk shows? Does this man do anything for an honest living or does he just make his living following around trouble that he helps perpetuate? He makes me sick.
There once was a con man named “Sharpie”
Whose race baiting’s as foul as a harpy
He began with Tawana
Now he’s headed to Jena
Still peddling his loads of malarky
Great MTNEER!!! Absolutely Great!
Well I guess we may take away different things then. I deduce that these people are saying that racism that is manufactured is not true racism at all. They are arguing that the Left creates controversy where they is none. That assumtion would be incorrect when there verifiable victims of racial intimidation.
Who are you talking about? No one here has said it doesn’t still exist. That’s a central point in my earlier statement in which I noted that Al Sharpton doesn’t raise awareness of racism. EVERYONE is aware that it exists.
My last post disappeared into the ether so I’ll repeat.
I don’t understand how a discussion about Al Sharpton’s race hustling morphed into whether or not racism exists or not. It does and he definitely is.
Ot Oh! Those damn “racist” are at it again…
Police: Student asked to leave boarding school over slur
Windsor (AP)_ Windsor police say a student who reported a racial slur scrawled on a door at the Loomis Chaffee boarding school last month has agreed to leave after admitting she wrote it herself.
Windsor police had been investigating what appeared to be the second racially charged incident in a month at the exclusive boarding school.
Now they say a black student has admitted to writing the slur on the door of another black student.
http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=7331199
Al Sharpton came to “prominence” during the affair of Tawana Brawley. He dragged a good man’s reputation through the mud, was proven wrong, and never ever even apologized. His credibility is right there in the Cloaca Maximus of American race relations.
Uh, Cloaca Maxima, my last Latin class was three plus decades ago.
Thanks for the props 30 Pieces of Silver. That was the first response to any post I’ve ever had.
DarkKnight –
I took those comments differently. I don’t know what thread they were posted on, but it sounded to me like they were saying in the specific incident at hand the racism is manufactured. Or, that in the specific incident at hand there was controversy created where none existed.
I cannot attest to the veracity of those statements, not knowing what story they are discussing, but I still don’t see them as denials of racism alltogether. I guess we would have to ask Gabe, ACHefty, metsfan4004, and darwin in order to find out the true thought behind these statements. If they were, in fact, saying that there is no racism in this country, then I believe them to be misguided at best.
I was hoping you could clarify something, I don’t quite understand this statement of yours:
If, for example, we take the case of Kerri Dunn, the professor who smashed her own car and adorned it with racial slurs and then called it the work of racist vandals – this is not true racism in the way that Ms. Dunn claimed it was. However, it is still racism. It is just, in this case, the alleged victim who seems to be operating on racist beliefs. So, I would say that manufactured racism is not true racism in one sense, but then again it is still racially motivated.
Does my last post read coherently? I’m having a fuzzy head day – it’s busy here.
MTNEER:
I agree Sharpton should apologize about the Tawana Brawley fiasco. Sean Hannity should also apologize about calling Abner Louima a liar, and further slandering him as a homosexual.
People like these two are full of arrogance and ego, and simply don’t have the humility to admit when they are wrong.
Sorry Buck I,I’m not a Hannity fannity of a Colms Homes, so I missed the Abner Luima reference. Slurs against anyone without the benefit of evidense are wrong.
or a Colmes etc.
Gotcha. It would be nice if Tawana Brawley came out with the entire truth about what happen and why. A funny thing about America, is that we’re very forgiving. A nice humble mea culpa goes a long way. It’s so rare that we see a true honest heartfelt apology, with no tangible/monetary benefit to gain.
I have a white girlfriend, but all of my close friends are black. I do have white casual friends. Nothing Al Sharpton does or says impacts my views on race. I’m sure all of the commenters would agree. Everyone, myself included should do a better job of ignoring him The best way to marginalize him is to ignore him. Michelle Malkin ought to ignore the black race hustlers like Jesse and Al, as much as she ignores white race hustlers like Hal Turner. Not too many poeple share any of their views anyway.
I have a white girlfriend, but all of my close friends are black. I do have white casual friends. Nothing Al Sharpton does or says impacts my views on race. I’m sure all of the commenters would agree. Everyone, myself included should do a better job of ignoring him The best way to marginalize him is to ignore him. Michelle Malkin ought to ignore the black race hustlers like Jesse and Al, as much as she ignores white race hustlers like Hal Turner. Not too many poeple share any of their views anyway.
That sounds good in theory but Hal Turner doesn’t get either MSM exposure or MSM backing. He sure seemed to have widespread support for the “Jena 6″ fiasco and for that matter seems to have widespread support wherever he goes.
The entire argument for hate crime legislation is just as flawed as quota laws. What it basically states is that a minority person is just a weak individual who is incapable of defending themselves, thus special laws must be enacted as a way to deter people from saying or doing something that may offend. Sorry, but I just don’t buy it. Why is a general black person, nothing special about him, just black, that much more special and important that a basic white man? If the white guy gets beat up or robbed by a black man, nothing happens. The criminal gets arrested and tried etc. based on the crime. But if you recerse it, all of a sudden it becomes a hate crime. Why? Perception. Obviously the black guy was beaten up due to the fact he was black. thus, the victim is special and there must be extra punishment placed on the criminal. Well someone tell me where the fairness is in that? Was the damage done more heinous or extensive? No. Would there be more damage done if both victim and criminal were black or white? No. So why should there be more of a penalty?
There really are no crimes that are done without hate. Violent acts are, by their very definition, hatefilled and hateful acts. To differentiate them along race lines takes exactly what MLK’s “Dream” was and throws it in the trash heap All these “protection” laws do is further separate the races, create bad feelings between them and ultimately do no good what-so-ever.
And don’t go off saying that I am just sounding like a pissed off white guy. Frankly, I ain’t all white to begin with. Someone needs to show me how many whites have been slapped with hate crimes versus how many blacks. When you can turn on any channel on TV and hear whites called honkey, cracker, snowflake etc. on a basic sitcom, yet no other race is permitted to be ridiculed as such, it is incredibly obvious that there is a basic disparity in these alledged “hate crime” statutes that only proves that what they are is, in fact, racist to their very core, and demeaning to those they allegedly protect.
Excellent comment RetFireman.
I’ve been trying for weeks to figure out the right way to word that exact sentiment.
You might be pleased to note, however, accusations of hate crimes are proportional to the numbers of blacks and whites in this nation.
You can see the comments in all their glory at:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/11/why-wont-columbia-university-release-the-noose-security-video/
I was just saying that those who say that racism is produced by those who wish to “play victim” who conclude that real racism/racial hatred does not exist. Even if there are instances where people have created controversy in order to spark a disturbance, it should not take away from legitimate instances where people have used nooses and other hate symbols to send a message to a victim.
Al NOTsharpton’s remarks & actions make the Dog Chapman’s remarks seem tame in comparison. This guy is the one who should be sidelined not the Dog. All these guys who don’t want to forgive a clearly repentant Dog are the real BIGOTS & HATE MONGERS.
He claims to be a Christian preacher but is UNFORGIVING. If, in deed he is a a Christian he sure is BACKSLIDDEN.
Him & Jessie the Jackle are the 2 biggest race baiters & hypocrites on the planet. They are the ones that need to ask for forgiveness and repent of their racist & bigoted attitudes.
I’ve never heard either of these 2 even mention the name of Jesus. All they talk about is race this & race that. The Bible speaks very little about racism. But these 2 clowns are all full of racist & bigoted attitudes.
What Al Dullton’s said is full of vile irrational HATRED & BIGOTRY.
I see the point you’re making, but Jena had grassroots and blog support long before Rev. Al got involved. Jena was never about Rev. Al. This march seems all about Rev. Al. I don’t plan to get into it again about Jena, any ?’s can be answered in past threads I commented on. The issue exshausts me at this point, and there’s no common ground.
I watch more T.V and surf the net more than I probably should,but I hadn’t seen anything on the Sharpton led march, before I came on this site. This whole thread just further pepetuates the divide, and gives Sharpton more attention than he deserves. “Okay supporter, haters, argue it out” Sure I’ve been sucked in too. Obviously the topic has long legs, so maybe that’s the idea. But, Sharpton is being granted more attention than he deserves on this issue. This is all bordering on “Sharpton derangement syndrome”. The best way to marginalize someone is too ignore. I guess the mainstream or widespread support you speak of is relative, but I just don’t see it with Sharpton. I do see widespread, undeserved attention and focus from all sides.
Al Sharpton is responsible for continued racism. Tawana Brawley and Al fabricated her lie. Several innocent people had their reputations smeared just like those innocent college students at Duke U.
In addition, millions of caucasians were by extension smeared with a broad brush in and around NYC thanks to Al and his crew. There are plenty of actual rapes, murders and torture done by certain people who have not been given the same justice as other people.
http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/2006/02/drugs-and-personal-responsibility.html
Take a look and comment if you like. There is a big difference between drawing a stick figure of someone with a gun and the disgusting actions of these three. You decide if it was racism, a hate crime or merely depravity.
Hate crimes are thought crimes.
The same crime is punished differently depending on the identity of the perpetrator and what he was thinking when he committed the crime.
Only overt acts should be punished, not subjective states of consciousness.
Harassment, assult, murder, etc. are all wrong regardless of motive.
White people seem to pay more attention to Al Sharpton that black people. White people are the ones that gave him and Jesse the title “black leader.” Who are the white leaders? George Bush, Hillary Clinton?
By definition, terrorism is also a thought crime.
One cannot honestly support terrism charges without at least seeing the validity in hate crimes.
Prime Director, do you believe a crime can be MORE wrong with regard to motive?
In our system of justice, we have multiple justifiable charges for what ultimately is the ending of another person’s life. The difference in those charges is largely motive. Without that, any time a person ends another’s life, it’d be murder. In such a “just” world, a man who strangles his wife would face the same punishment as a mother who rolls over on her child.
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And when it doesn’t fall down, you might have your answer from God.
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Stop with the race baiting nonsense. You are keeping racism alive, Sharpton.
This very sentiment is what some of the earlier posters are referring to; the idea that racism only exists because people focus on it.
Which isn’t true.
Most on here admit that.