The ostracism of Eliot Spitzer
Lonely. He’s Mr. Lonely. He has nobody to call his ooown:
Democratic members of Congress, having watched Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton stumble on the question of whether states should give driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, are growing increasingly agitated over Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s plan to do so and are calling for him to shelve the idea.
The opposition is especially strong among Democrats bracing for the prospect of tough re-election battles next year in politically moderate and conservative regions of New York; they have begun to speak out on the issue and, in many cases, have disavowed the plan.
“It’s hugely unpopular,” said Representative Michael Arcuri, a first-term Democrat from central New York whom Republicans hope to defeat next year. “I don’t think it would be wise to move forward with it at this point.”
The governor’s aides have been quietly working to mollify lawmakers, and Mr. Spitzer will meet behind closed doors with members of New York’s Congressional delegation next week, according to staff workers on Capitol Hill and in Albany.
The reaction among some Democrats underscores how Mr. Spitzer, who just a year ago was viewed as a rising star nationally, has become isolated within his own party.
I wonder where all these people have been as illegal alien driver’s licenses plans have taken hold across the country. But we should take the election-year epiphanies where you can find them:
Representative John Hall, a Democratic freshman lawmaker whose district includes New York City’s northern suburbs, said he was worried that illegal immigrants who are able to secure licenses in New York under Mr. Spitzer would in turn use those licenses to obtain other forms of identification and other documents.
“I think it creates more problems than it tries to solve,” he said. “I would urge the governor to withdraw the plan.”
Representative Kirsten Gillibrand, a first-term Democrat whose district is in the Albany region, said she phoned the governor’s office a day after he proposed the initiative to say that she would not support it.
Ms. Gillibrand said the proposal was extremely unpopular in her district. “I’ve heard this nonstop for the last five weeks,” she said. There should be a national standard for licenses, she said, rather than allowing states to go in different directions. “I don’t think it should be implemented,” she said of Mr. Spitzer’s policy. “It’s not a good idea.”
Put that on a bumper sticker and send it to every Democrat AND Republican who has supported this dumb idea.
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I’m very anxious for the day when the USA (New Yorkers in particular) wake up and realize this drivers license thing has nothing to do with New York. Elliot doesn’t really think this is the best thing for New York. THIS IS ALL ABOUT A CABINET POSITION IN HILLARY’S PRESIDENCY.
Understatement of the day.
I read this as “wait until the election is over and we’ll shove it down their throats because we can and we know best”. The things tried by these fools must be remembered on election day.
“Faux News Alert”
Stranger finds Hillary sleepwalking!
A man walking his dog found Hillary to be incoherent mumbling about drivers licenses. “Its a good idea, yes it is, no, no, yes no,I think it was, no I dont , yes no.what?. it is a good idea , yes it is , no yes no it is. wheres my cat?. no yes.”
The stranger guided Hillary back to her front door, rang the bell and left.
film at 11:00
NY wants to give a license to illegals yet here in NJ I can’t get a license with my middle name on it because it’s not my “legal” name. Even though it’s on my birth certificate and the NJDMV definition of legal name is the name on your birth certificate. I actually had a DMV worker ask me who even uses their middle name anyway. Then I had the security guard (I started getting loud) tell me my problem wasn’t with the DMV, it was with my parents for calling me by my middle name.
This morning, NM Gov. Richardson, when asked about this issue, proudly stated he’d signed a somilar bill into law a couple of years ago, claiming it has reduced the incidents of uninsured drivers.
Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about… /sarc
Did you notice the typical Democrat solution, voiced by Ms. Gillibrand? National standards for drivers licenses? Then they can put their fool ideas on all of us at once, instead of one state at a time.
This snowball has been rolling for a while, and stopping it will take the same kind of uprising as during the Shamnesty Bill. We’ll have to shut down the phones and flood the halls of congress with letters, faxes and postcards.
Even a fake driver’s license in the hands of an illegal will allow them to vote. How many election workers do you think can spot a phoney? How well do the election workers peruse the ID’s they are handed?
There really should be a national standard for driver’s licenses (actually state-issued IDs), because we are currently in a position where certain states’ (North Carolina is one) ID cards and licenses are not always accepted as a valid form of identification. The public would be appalled at how many fraudulently-obtained state-issued IDs are out there. Politcal Correctness and plain laziness has kept this nation from closing a dangerous gap in our national security.
What was the most outrageous for me was the way he tried to implement this w/o any legislative involvement. Is this the type of totalitarian rule the democrats ultimately want if elected?The desires of the special interests over the needs of the people!
Don’t forget: thanks to motor-voter they all get to register to vote with their driver’s license. It is a willful attempt to undermine our election system with massive fraud.
MM, Could you insert that as an audio file. Bet you have a lovely singing voice!
Spitzer’s arrogance became apparent during his attorney general days when he launched his frontal assault on Microsoft. Every story and piece I’ve read about this guy only reinforces this idea. Ambition aside, when someone interjects themselves into so many issues that run counter to the majority of the population, it’s a sign of hubris run amok. And God only knows, we don’t need another freaking puffed-up lawyer in a position of power in government. We already have way too many of these lab rat candidates for our own good.
For years NC gave out licenses to illegals like candy at Halloween.
Yeah, it’s scary alright.
Not to mention the people killed by illegals in this county alone….it’s mind boggling.
Too late to rectify this problem.
Most have NO insurance either.
Most of the illegal males drink at all hours of the day…and Drive of course.
They turn right when they’re aren’t supposed to……run lights……make illegal move that jeopardize everyone.
That is one reason I will not drive on weekends in my town. They come out in droves to the local flea markets.
Disgusting and Dangerous.
Good God Almighty. What weaselly language.
Notice, he doesn’t say that the act of giving illegal aliens drivers licenses is “unwise”, only that doing so “at this point” is. Meaning, he actually favors doing so, but knows it’s politically unexpedient right now.
Shameless.
It appears from the information above the “Blue Dog” Democrats are scarred to death they will not survive their first re-election bid. Sounds like the good folks in New York State are joining the vast majority of Americans and raising the BS flag on this issue. It is time to secure our national borders and find out just who the heck the uninvited guests in this Republic are. We can deport all of them to their country of origin so they can get in line with everyone else who are patiently waiting in line to gain legal status in this country.
What may be a more interesting debate is whether any illegal alien would even use one for ID purposes, since the licenses Spitzer’s talking about would clearly state something about “not to be used for Federal government ID requirements.”
Flashing that ID–which I wholeheartedly oppose–would be a dead giveaway as to the bearer’s status, no?
“I don’t think it would be wise to move forward with it
at this pointever.I fixed it for him.
Isn’t that the liberal way?
Note to liberals: If you aren’t apart of the solution, you are apart of the problem…
Like on so many other things, the dems are wrong, just flat out wrong, on this. Unlike many other things, the dumb masses to the tune of 77% realize that they are wrong on this. But those dumb masses will not be able to discern the subtlety of the dems responses to understand that, as usual, the dems are not abandoning their bad idea, they are just postponing it until a more propitious political climate.
mmmmm. I guess this means we can expect the Dems to ambush us on this again after the elections. Tell me why pols like this are not prosecuted for malfeasance and willful disregard for the law. For crying out loud!
E l i o t….E l i o t…E.T. and the mother ship are calling. Time to go home. E l i o t……
If the good people of New York regularly read the Wall Street Journal they would realize his attorney general days were just theater in order to get the governor’s seat. He cost corporations millions and lost several of his cases which cost the taxpayers. Not someone I would want running my state and certainly not the country.
I understand that there are sveral other states that already allow this.How did this happen? And how do we go about changing it?.I think I live in one of those states!!!
Another one fixed…..
Well, at least he is thinking which is the first step on the road to recovery for the liberal left. However, thinking that more federal involvement in state matters is necessary really is rather scary and indicative that more than just thinking is called for here. Can anyone think of just one federal program that has actually worked well? Notice that he qualified this with the “Tries to solve” statement. So do the actual accomplishments run a distant second to the intent of the bill? Seems to me I can recall a path to somewhere that was paved with “Good intentions”.
The way our office holders treat the illegal alien issue honestly baffles me. This is one of those rare issues where the country’s best interests dovetail with overwhelming electoral support… yet many politicians on both sides want to go the other way. You’d think they would work on border security and a crackdown on illegals purely out of self-interest, if for no other reason.
Elliott the Idiot
The Democrats’ self-interest is Hispanic votes. The Republicans’ self-interest is cheap labor for business cronies, and I believe Bush’s Texas hicks like Karl Rove thought they could translate Bush’s popularity with Texas Hispanics onto the national stage.
As long as both parties are totally corrupt on illegal migration, the voters have no choice on the matter, so it is a non-issue with the politicians, until one party or the other takes a stand, which is increasingly unlikely as Hispanic influence and corruption blossoms.
Michelle,
Three Dog Night, One is the lonelist number….
Hey I have an idea to fix this problem. Universal Car Insurance! YES! Thats the answer!
Eric – first you have to have universal cars… Don’t you worry though, Hillary has that one in the works too.
That was supposed to be a joke. I hope no one tells her! Welcome to Hillarys USSA. (United Socialist States of America).
Elliot Spitzer translated into Spanish – El Cucaracha
Dont forget Spitzer wants a “Dont ask dont tell” policy where NY will prevent anyone from ASKING if they are illegals and getting DLs. Also they are pushing for that for government services like welfare and Health care. Spitzer says law forbids “Profiing” of people and that they should get all services that legal residence should
On my blog has spitzer voicing that on video
http://willamos.myblogsite.com/entry21.html#track
Two Dozen Illegal Immigrants Arrested Using Fake Badges to Work at O’Hare International Airport.
Spitzer wants them to have ‘real’ ones.
My suggestion: We all go over to Mr. Spitzers house and use his pool there. When he says it’s his and we can’t use it, we inform him that the USA is ours and those who don’t “own” it can’t use it unless we invite them.
Spitzer’s ‘logic’ in proposing this bill. i.e., that since illegals without licenses have an accident rate 5 times more than that of citizens, giving them licenses will reduce accidents, is so skewed that either he is crazy or there is an alternate goal. I believe it is the latter. Spitzer is attempting to create a voting block of illegals. Granting them de facto citizenship. This is also delusional. There are many bad eggs among the illegals, many who hate the USA and are here as predators. Elliot is a menace.
I voted on Tuesday as our school district was trying pass a huge referendum. As I approached the election official to sign in I was pulling out my wallet to show her my driver’s license she said “Oh, you don’t need your ID” before I could even get it out. Maybe there are different rules for voting to give the government schools more money…like anyone can vote?
It takes a motivated proltariat to foment a socialist revolution. If you don’t have one, import it.
Prolitariat, My bad
That didn’t take too long to have BDS as the problem (#28).
I like the 3 licenses idea. Can we get 3 tax refunds with that (and a side of fries)?
As an election judge, my clerks and I do “peruse” TX
drivers licenses but no where on that license does it
say that the license may have been obtained with false
documents. Have you ever taken a good long look at
those “enthusiastic” DMV personnel? Most of them are
just biding their time until break, lunch, break, quitting time and/or retirement. We have motor voter
laws here in TX and if you have ever been called for
jury duty one of the things that is so compelling is how many people show up who cannot speak a word of English or are not citizens. They are the ones that get to leave before the prospective jurors
are empaneled.
I know that a lot of election workers seem blase’,
but not all are like this and really do try to make
certain that the voter is legal. What is truly needed
is to have to show a picture id. The perfect solution
would be a voters certificate with both fingerprints
and photo id on the certificate and a fingerprint scan before the voter can go to the voting booth.
Even more perfect would be no illegal immigrants
in the country and no unscrupulous people helping
them to vote illegally.
I meant to add that those showing up for jury duty did
so because they are registered to vote through motor
voter and are not legal to vote or they would be legal
to sit on a jury. I did not see as many leave the last
time that I was called, but there still were some who
did leave.
Why do Eliot Spitzer’s actions automatically fall back onto President Bush? I do not care for the President’s
stand on illegals but I haven’t seen him twisting
Spitzer’s arm about driver’s licenses.
The last time I looked Al Sharpton and the CEO of
WalMart were pushing for legalizing illegals even
harder than the President. I do believe that the Rev
Sharpton thinks he’s found another constiuency.
Actually, the Stupid Party is trying to pander to Hispanic voters while the Dems seek to enslave them by addicting them to government alms.
Here in Michigan, the NAACP is howling because voters in Detroit were required to *gasp* SHOW A PICTURE ID TO VOTE! Oh, no!!!!! It’s Bull Connor all over again!!! Intimidation!!! Racism!!!! Jim Crow!!!!!
Spare me.
You have to show picture ID to do just about everything from using a credit card to boarding a plane, but for some reason it’s considered oppressive to try and verify that the person voting is actually entitled to a ballot. Since Dems are scrounging for every fraudulent vote they can fabricate – while spewing FUD about Diebold machines – handing out free driver’s licenses and allowing people to vote without ID are cornerstones to their goal to retain power.
Who’s to say that these invaders aren’t getting multiple IDs as well? While you and I go through our lives using the names we were born with, invaders can sign up for as many personas as they want. They can pretend to be Jason Bourne with a pack of passports. Vote 10 times – once for each of your many identities. IT’S YOUR RIGHT!!!
Nice to see the hero from NY who went after all those evil corporations and made a name fo himself on the left get a taste of his own medicine.
Now we have Cuomo grandstanding all over tha place by targeting everybody in the mortgage industry for screwing poor innocent homeowners who can’t pay their mortgages. Of course there is no blame to be placed on people who willingly borrowed way more than they knew they could afford. It’s those rotten greedy corporations again.
What is up with that AG position in New York?
What everyone ignores is obvious to
anyone with an ounce of common sense.
These people need to be deported ! To
say it can’t be done is BS. It does’t
have to be done in one week. Just start with the bad ones, fine the employers,
stop the college tuition discounts, and
non-emergency medical and it can happen.
just because you give them drivers licenses does not mean they will buy car insurance.. so yeah.. pretty soon we will have universal car insurance…geesh.. anything to appease the illegals..
It’s not a good idea “at this time”, or any time. Moron!
Where is Rusty or any of the other leftsheep?…. I’ve noticed they are seldom heard when a black or white issue is up(meaning not grey). I’m talking about those issues that they can’t cloud with emotion or call us the evil conservatives….those which they actually have to back up their argument.
“Liberalism is a mental disorder(Michael Savage)”.
New verb: to spitzer
Definition still somewhat fuzzy but discernable synonyms are lunkhead, wrong-way and impolitic. Though crash-and-burn is coming on strong.
This guy Spitzer deserves everything he gets. As Attorney General of NY, he had his legal staff phone friends of mine at 10:30 at night to threaten them with subpoenas if they didn’t answer questions, and name names, about financial industry particulars in Manhattan. My friends were so far out of the loop concerning this investigation, it wasn’t even funny. Spitzer is an incredibly unethical dude.
There already is a national standard for driver’s licenses. It’s called the REAL ID act. Most states are refusing to impliment it.
Eliot is insane.
New Yorkers should be leafing through their constitution for what to do about an insane governor.
pizzo3,
He is not insane, he is corrupt. This is not insanity, this is an attempt at massive voter fraud.
Personally, I think this is political suicide, he is going down 4sure… the important thing is that “she” whom ordered this goes down with him. Even the MSM seems on board. I LOVE IT, in a New York kinda way.
The beast has blinked.
And that is why, Americans should vote for a patriot like Tom Tancredo, who is clearly not going to take the illegal alien crap lying down. For those who think Tom Tancredo is a one show pony, don’t forget.. Trojans Horse is in the house.
To #45,
You brought up the subject of Andrew Cuomo. Yesterday, I sent an e-mail to Fred Dicker, Albany bureau chief of the New York Post, and asked him where Cuomo stands on the licenses-for-illegals issue. To my surprise, Dicker actually answered this unimportant questioner. He wrote that Cuomo has repeatedly ducked the issue, citing his obligation as AG to defend the governor. I guess you can draw your own conclusion about Cuomo’s relationship with the 900-lb. gorilla in the state capital.
Look, why is it so hard for the msm (even our right wing FOX, the blogs and the Politicians) to understand……ILLEGAL ALIENS can use the driver’s license issued by their home country or, obtain an International Driver’s License. We have millions of TOURISTS who come here LEGALLY and drive while here on vacation or for work. Canadians and Mexican nationals enter through our Ports Of Entry while driving…..Do you think they stop at the local DMV first, get one of our Driver’s Licenses? NO! They use the one issued by their country. So, illegals do not need a driver’s license issued by any of our states, EXCEPT to get social services they are not entitled to, move from state to state and of course, to VOTE!
Call your leaders, let them KNOW that illegals can drive here LEGALLY with their own country’s driver’s license or an International one! Stop the “we need them to come out of the shadows” line.
I heard that he is fighting for it so hard so the trucking industry can hire illegals and save labor costs? If it’s true we need to keep it in mind. It’s odd how hard he is fighting for this.