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	<title>Comments on: Newsflash: Bush vetoes health/education spending bill</title>
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		<title>By: WarTip</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/13/newsflash-bush-vetoes-healtheducation-spending-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-171156</link>
		<dc:creator>WarTip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On November 13th, 2007 at 11:40 am, twiggman said:

Lets see, 2,200 earmarks worth 1 billion dollars, for democrats I’d say thats under control.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Try this!

&lt;blockquote&gt;
    While conservative senators have boasted recently about ditching the $1 million &quot;hippie museum&quot; earmark from a recent spending bill, they didn&#039;t bother touching billions for Louisiana.

    Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), in fact, put out a press release late last night declaring Thursday as &quot;our $12 billion day.&quot; Indeed, Louisiana received $3 billion in home reconstruction aid that was dropped into the Defense spending bill late in negotiations. That bill cleared the Senate on Thursday. Louisiana will receive $7 billion of the $23 billion water resources development act money thanks to the resounding override of President Bush&#039;s veto of that bill. And the Pelican State will receive $2 billion in defense funds for various military projects and installations in that state under the Pentagon spending bill.

Bringing home the bacon, illegal redistribution of illegally gotten capital gains; it is politics above the people as usual for congress.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On November 13th, 2007 at 11:40 am, twiggman said:</p>
<p>Lets see, 2,200 earmarks worth 1 billion dollars, for democrats I’d say thats under control.</p></blockquote>
<p>Try this!</p>
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    While conservative senators have boasted recently about ditching the $1 million &#8220;hippie museum&#8221; earmark from a recent spending bill, they didn&#8217;t bother touching billions for Louisiana.</p>
<p>    Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), in fact, put out a press release late last night declaring Thursday as &#8220;our $12 billion day.&#8221; Indeed, Louisiana received $3 billion in home reconstruction aid that was dropped into the Defense spending bill late in negotiations. That bill cleared the Senate on Thursday. Louisiana will receive $7 billion of the $23 billion water resources development act money thanks to the resounding override of President Bush&#8217;s veto of that bill. And the Pelican State will receive $2 billion in defense funds for various military projects and installations in that state under the Pentagon spending bill.</p>
<p>Bringing home the bacon, illegal redistribution of illegally gotten capital gains; it is politics above the people as usual for congress.</p></blockquote>
<p>3 items, 12 Billion, one state!</p>
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		<title>By: uhangtight</title>
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		<dc:creator>uhangtight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to them we are merely tax slaves.  it is time to stand up to these criminals.  i am so tired of hearing about the amount of money being spent on defense or our military; and then they can add such pork (unnecessary waste) to these bills for the children..give me a break.  that manipulation doesn&#039;t work on me, it is for your slimy buns to try to stay in office.  FIRE the lot..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to them we are merely tax slaves.  it is time to stand up to these criminals.  i am so tired of hearing about the amount of money being spent on defense or our military; and then they can add such pork (unnecessary waste) to these bills for the children..give me a break.  that manipulation doesn&#8217;t work on me, it is for your slimy buns to try to stay in office.  FIRE the lot..</p>
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		<title>By: hatelibs</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/13/newsflash-bush-vetoes-healtheducation-spending-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-170773</link>
		<dc:creator>hatelibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conservativesRus
&quot;If the President wants the message out, he has to use what’s available and repeat, repeat, repeat and then say it again. Eventually, even Helen Thomas and David Gregory will a) drop dead, or b) report it.&quot;

Exactly on BOTH points.  Like I said, he needs to pound the table a lot more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conservativesRus<br />
&#8220;If the President wants the message out, he has to use what’s available and repeat, repeat, repeat and then say it again. Eventually, even Helen Thomas and David Gregory will a) drop dead, or b) report it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly on BOTH points.  Like I said, he needs to pound the table a lot more!</p>
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		<title>By: mngirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Among them, a $1 million earmark for the Thomas Daschle Center for Public Service and Representative Democracy at South Dakota State University, named for the former Senate Democratic leader.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This one is aggregious, I read (I think in NRO) that it was submitted by Robert Byrd and Harry Reid.  Neither of whom is a Senator from South Dakota.  

I wonder if anyone bothered to ask SDSU if they wanted it.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Among them, a $1 million earmark for the Thomas Daschle Center for Public Service and Representative Democracy at South Dakota State University, named for the former Senate Democratic leader.</p></blockquote>
<p>This one is aggregious, I read (I think in NRO) that it was submitted by Robert Byrd and Harry Reid.  Neither of whom is a Senator from South Dakota.  </p>
<p>I wonder if anyone bothered to ask SDSU if they wanted it&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mister P</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/13/newsflash-bush-vetoes-healtheducation-spending-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-170755</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Vouchers&quot; - I guess I am still upset with Carter for vetoing the voucher bill. Imagine competition in the field of education. Conservatives should be either pushing for vouchers or the elimination of government schools. Instead we give low standards to our monopolies and worry about minor education bills. No wonder engineering jobs have left the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Vouchers&#8221; &#8211; I guess I am still upset with Carter for vetoing the voucher bill. Imagine competition in the field of education. Conservatives should be either pushing for vouchers or the elimination of government schools. Instead we give low standards to our monopolies and worry about minor education bills. No wonder engineering jobs have left the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No child left behind has nothing to do with &quot;performance&quot;. It is about reducing the performance of the top performers and spending the teacher&#039;s time on the poor performers. It is a common demoninator effect and helps dumb down America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No child left behind has nothing to do with &#8220;performance&#8221;. It is about reducing the performance of the top performers and spending the teacher&#8217;s time on the poor performers. It is a common demoninator effect and helps dumb down America.</p>
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		<title>By: T J Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>T J Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right out of the Hillary &quot;buy their votes&quot; paybook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right out of the Hillary &#8220;buy their votes&#8221; paybook.</p>
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		<title>By: conservativesRus</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/13/newsflash-bush-vetoes-healtheducation-spending-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-170695</link>
		<dc:creator>conservativesRus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite frankly the president should just veto any bill for education and health.  Neither are Constitutional federal  mandates.  Both I think are the domain of the states.
Of course little details like constitutional authority and what it means is something completely lost on a very high percentage of voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly the president should just veto any bill for education and health.  Neither are Constitutional federal  mandates.  Both I think are the domain of the states.<br />
Of course little details like constitutional authority and what it means is something completely lost on a very high percentage of voters.</p>
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		<title>By: conservativesRus</title>
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		<dc:creator>conservativesRus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hatelibs...I agree that the mouthpiece is way biased in it&#039;s message.  A dem staffer sneezes it gets reported on page one, a conservative is out for a month with pneumonia and it&#039;s page 9 material.  But my point is - if the President wants the message out, he has to use what&#039;s available and repeat, repeat, repeat and then say it again.  Eventually, even Helen Thomas and David Gregory will a) drop dead, or b) report it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hatelibs&#8230;I agree that the mouthpiece is way biased in it&#8217;s message.  A dem staffer sneezes it gets reported on page one, a conservative is out for a month with pneumonia and it&#8217;s page 9 material.  But my point is &#8211; if the President wants the message out, he has to use what&#8217;s available and repeat, repeat, repeat and then say it again.  Eventually, even Helen Thomas and David Gregory will a) drop dead, or b) report it.</p>
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		<title>By: hatelibs</title>
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		<dc:creator>hatelibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conservativesRus

Do you actually believe that Bush gets the same coverage that the left does?  I understand he &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; the President and I agree that he doesn&#039;t pound the table enough or get his message out. But the left spews their nonsense almost completely &lt;em&gt;unchallenged&lt;/em&gt; except for talk radio and places like this.

As Rush has always called the &quot;media&quot; the willing accomplicses for Democraps. I would call it the &quot;disinformation wing&quot; of the party.  

We are making progress on issues like SCHIP and the Amnesty Bill but too many people only catch the sound bites and draw their conclusions.  Sadly the majority of sound bites are anti-Bush. The news that&#039;s fit to print or broadcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conservativesRus</p>
<p>Do you actually believe that Bush gets the same coverage that the left does?  I understand he <em>is</em> the President and I agree that he doesn&#8217;t pound the table enough or get his message out. But the left spews their nonsense almost completely <em>unchallenged</em> except for talk radio and places like this.</p>
<p>As Rush has always called the &#8220;media&#8221; the willing accomplicses for Democraps. I would call it the &#8220;disinformation wing&#8221; of the party.  </p>
<p>We are making progress on issues like SCHIP and the Amnesty Bill but too many people only catch the sound bites and draw their conclusions.  Sadly the majority of sound bites are anti-Bush. The news that&#8217;s fit to print or broadcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Etan</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/13/newsflash-bush-vetoes-healtheducation-spending-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-170647</link>
		<dc:creator>Etan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On November 13th, 2007 at 11:59 am, sausage said:

Health and Education always has to play second fiddle to the war machine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

sausage troll, did you ever think we wouldn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; &quot;Health and Education&quot; if it weren&#039;t for the &quot;war machine&quot; you so despise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On November 13th, 2007 at 11:59 am, sausage said:</p>
<p>Health and Education always has to play second fiddle to the war machine.</p></blockquote>
<p>sausage troll, did you ever think we wouldn&#8217;t <em>have</em> &#8220;Health and Education&#8221; if it weren&#8217;t for the &#8220;war machine&#8221; you so despise?</p>
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		<title>By: conservativesRus</title>
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		<dc:creator>conservativesRus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hatelibs...I kinda disagree  &lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately Republicans who want to prevent this nonsense don’t have the sound bite ability to expose this garbage&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If the ONLY thing the president said for the next xx weeks until the press actually reported what he wanted reported was how much waste there was..I&#039;m sure eventually, they would report it.  The issue is with Pres. Bush, he somehow thinks if he says it once, it&#039;s enough.  We know that not to be adequate.  Repetition will get the message out but it has to come from the President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hatelibs&#8230;I kinda disagree<br />
<blockquote>Unfortunately Republicans who want to prevent this nonsense don’t have the sound bite ability to expose this garbage</p></blockquote>
<p>If the ONLY thing the president said for the next xx weeks until the press actually reported what he wanted reported was how much waste there was..I&#8217;m sure eventually, they would report it.  The issue is with Pres. Bush, he somehow thinks if he says it once, it&#8217;s enough.  We know that not to be adequate.  Repetition will get the message out but it has to come from the President.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deepdiver and ACHefty have it completely right.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And the excuse “well, he/she did it” (re: war budget vs. the domestic budget) stopped working for me in first grade. When are the Dems going to grow up?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, the he said/she said argument works better when you frame it as &quot;Republicans spent a ton of pork without it getting vetoed.&quot;

Republicans also lied by claiming they supported small government. But when push came to shove their districts all benefited from the federal government&#039;s teat. At least with Democrats you don&#039;t get the whiff of hypocrisy.

And everyone is perfectly reasonable to oppose this kind of federal spending. I don&#039;t like it either. But electing Republicans isn&#039;t going to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deepdiver and ACHefty have it completely right.</p>
<blockquote><p>And the excuse “well, he/she did it” (re: war budget vs. the domestic budget) stopped working for me in first grade. When are the Dems going to grow up?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, the he said/she said argument works better when you frame it as &#8220;Republicans spent a ton of pork without it getting vetoed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Republicans also lied by claiming they supported small government. But when push came to shove their districts all benefited from the federal government&#8217;s teat. At least with Democrats you don&#8217;t get the whiff of hypocrisy.</p>
<p>And everyone is perfectly reasonable to oppose this kind of federal spending. I don&#8217;t like it either. But electing Republicans isn&#8217;t going to help.</p>
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		<title>By: hatelibs</title>
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		<dc:creator>hatelibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the American people actually were allowed to see what is &lt;em&gt;actually &lt;/em&gt;contained in these spending bills, they would storm Washington. Unfortunately Republicans who want to prevent this nonsense don&#039;t have the sound bite ability to expose this garbage to the degree that the democraps have to blast the mean, nasty, heartless Republicans &amp; the President.

Imagine what could a million here and there be used for (children..lol) instead of politicians immortalizing themselves. (Tom Daschle. If the American people only knew the truth....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the American people actually were allowed to see what is <em>actually </em>contained in these spending bills, they would storm Washington. Unfortunately Republicans who want to prevent this nonsense don&#8217;t have the sound bite ability to expose this garbage to the degree that the democraps have to blast the mean, nasty, heartless Republicans &amp; the President.</p>
<p>Imagine what could a million here and there be used for (children..lol) instead of politicians immortalizing themselves. (Tom Daschle. If the American people only knew the truth&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ACHefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACHefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If he had been vetoing out of control spending bills since January of 2000 [sic -- 2001] and leading the republican party towards smaller government and reduced spending we all wouldn’t be sitting out here having to worry about Hillary as president&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree.  Bush could have (should have) easily vetoed everything with excess until Congress got it right.  Plain and simple, this should have been done from the very outset, not just after your party squandered its power for perks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If he had been vetoing out of control spending bills since January of 2000 [sic -- 2001] and leading the republican party towards smaller government and reduced spending we all wouldn’t be sitting out here having to worry about Hillary as president</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree.  Bush could have (should have) easily vetoed everything with excess until Congress got it right.  Plain and simple, this should have been done from the very outset, not just after your party squandered its power for perks.</p>
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