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	<title>Comments on: State Department meltdown: Wimps, weenies, and a few brave men</title>
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		<title>By: US State Dept: Striped-pants dilletantes &#171; Out West</title>
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		<dc:creator>US State Dept: Striped-pants dilletantes &#171; Out West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kemphd</title>
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		<dc:creator>kemphd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also find it annoying when the state department doesn&#039;t do its job supporting the executive branch.  I am a civil service employee with the Air Force and spent the summer in Southwest Asia as part of my job.  I knew when I accepted the job that I could be deployed.  When I was tasked with the deployment, I did the necessary training, got the gear, put my worldly goods in storage and went.  I have no prior military service and was a bit apprehensive, but I accepted the job in 2006 knowing that I would likely get deployed.   So I went, without complaining and served my country and my Airmen.

AIRPOWER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also find it annoying when the state department doesn&#8217;t do its job supporting the executive branch.  I am a civil service employee with the Air Force and spent the summer in Southwest Asia as part of my job.  I knew when I accepted the job that I could be deployed.  When I was tasked with the deployment, I did the necessary training, got the gear, put my worldly goods in storage and went.  I have no prior military service and was a bit apprehensive, but I accepted the job in 2006 knowing that I would likely get deployed.   So I went, without complaining and served my country and my Airmen.</p>
<p>AIRPOWER!</p>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lgm

I don&#039;t have the numbers readily at hand but I would venture to offer that there have not been a large percantage of newly hired people in the FSO during the Bush years ... so that would mean the people there have been working in that department for more years than GWB has been in office ... it would be interesting to find out when the individuals raising all the fuss were first employed in the foreign service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lgm</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the numbers readily at hand but I would venture to offer that there have not been a large percantage of newly hired people in the FSO during the Bush years &#8230; so that would mean the people there have been working in that department for more years than GWB has been in office &#8230; it would be interesting to find out when the individuals raising all the fuss were first employed in the foreign service.</p>
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		<title>By: TimDenchanter</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimDenchanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the one hand, we should only send people to an assignment that they believe in, lest they sabotage it. 
 
On the other hand, we should only be emloying people who will not sabotage their assignments because of their ideology. 
 
Quick Solution: 
Fire them NOW! 
 
Fun Solution: 
Have Donald Trump meet with the loudest whiners, explain the above, then say, &quot;You&#039;re FIRED!&quot; 
 
Even More Fun Solution: 
Those that want to stay away from the heat can be assigned to Antartica to count penguins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, we should only send people to an assignment that they believe in, lest they sabotage it. </p>
<p>On the other hand, we should only be emloying people who will not sabotage their assignments because of their ideology. </p>
<p>Quick Solution:<br />
Fire them NOW! </p>
<p>Fun Solution:<br />
Have Donald Trump meet with the loudest whiners, explain the above, then say, &#8220;You&#8217;re FIRED!&#8221; </p>
<p>Even More Fun Solution:<br />
Those that want to stay away from the heat can be assigned to Antartica to count penguins.</p>
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		<title>By: Pulchritudinous Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pulchritudinous Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute baby, though.</description>
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		<title>By: 24Klady</title>
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		<dc:creator>24Klady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DesertLover #25 - thank you.

I know just how that baby in the picture feels.  Everytime I see another injustice such as this and our various depts. in govn&#039;t cave on the issue I just want to throw a tantrum (aka: hissy fit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DesertLover #25 &#8211; thank you.</p>
<p>I know just how that baby in the picture feels.  Everytime I see another injustice such as this and our various depts. in govn&#8217;t cave on the issue I just want to throw a tantrum (aka: hissy fit).</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;MTNEER&lt;/strong&gt; said (#31)

&lt;blockquote&gt;...at the time, the FS was totally dominated by Ivy Leaguers, mostly from Princeton. I wonder if the same holds true today.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The state department indeed is/was filled with our best and brightest.  The Bushies have been doing whatever they can to fill it up with helluvajobers instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>MTNEER</strong> said (#31)</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;at the time, the FS was totally dominated by Ivy Leaguers, mostly from Princeton. I wonder if the same holds true today.</p></blockquote>
<p>The state department indeed is/was filled with our best and brightest.  The Bushies have been doing whatever they can to fill it up with helluvajobers instead.</p>
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		<title>By: MTNEER</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTNEER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A long time ago as a young college student I considered a career in the foreign service.  After doing a little investigating I discovered that, at the time, the FS was totally dominated by Ivy Leaguers, mostly from Princeton.  I wonder if the same holds true today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A long time ago as a young college student I considered a career in the foreign service.  After doing a little investigating I discovered that, at the time, the FS was totally dominated by Ivy Leaguers, mostly from Princeton.  I wonder if the same holds true today.</p>
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		<title>By: T J Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>T J Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On November 13th, 2007 at 9:24 pm, trinitytim said:

Give them an order. Those that refuse to go, fire them all and do it today, not tomorrow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep - ala Reagan and the air traffic controllers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On November 13th, 2007 at 9:24 pm, trinitytim said:</p>
<p>Give them an order. Those that refuse to go, fire them all and do it today, not tomorrow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep &#8211; ala Reagan and the air traffic controllers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragin' Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragin' Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah - that&#039;s what I get for not posting soon enough.  I was going to return fire on lgm but somebody beat me to the punch.

Also, IIRC, GWB did volunteer to go to Viet Nam, but they didn&#039;t need his type of plane there.  I don&#039;t care either way.  The man strapped himself into a plane that his detractors couldn&#039;t even begin to &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; about flying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah &#8211; that&#8217;s what I get for not posting soon enough.  I was going to return fire on lgm but somebody beat me to the punch.</p>
<p>Also, IIRC, GWB did volunteer to go to Viet Nam, but they didn&#8217;t need his type of plane there.  I don&#8217;t care either way.  The man strapped himself into a plane that his detractors couldn&#8217;t even begin to <em>think</em> about flying.</p>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buckshot

I can only imagine the impression that would make on the Iraq people ... 

for them to see those disabled vets returning to Iraq to continue the fight to help in their becoming a Democracy would probably be an immeasurable and invaluable reinforcement to them of the United States commitment to their country succeeding ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buckshot</p>
<p>I can only imagine the impression that would make on the Iraq people &#8230; </p>
<p>for them to see those disabled vets returning to Iraq to continue the fight to help in their becoming a Democracy would probably be an immeasurable and invaluable reinforcement to them of the United States commitment to their country succeeding &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: buckshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see Duncan Hunter&#039;s plan
implemented fire the whiners and hire injured and retired soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see Duncan Hunter&#8217;s plan<br />
implemented fire the whiners and hire injured and retired soldiers.</p>
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		<title>By: OldGuy53</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldGuy53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what you get when an agency promotes mediocrity instead of firing them.
Until we can thin the herd this is the kind of civil servants we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what you get when an agency promotes mediocrity instead of firing them.<br />
Until we can thin the herd this is the kind of civil servants we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: DesertLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesertLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lgm said:

Neither Bush nor Cheney were willing to put themselves in harms way in Vietnam. By contrast, both of their Democratic opponents (Gore, Kerry) actually were fired upon “in anger”. Even the swiftest swiftboaters admit that. Is MM saying that someone who is not willing to be in harm’s way has no business running the country?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sometimes I think lgm stands for lacking grey matter ... how about getting &quot;all&quot; the facts straight ... Agreed Gore and Kerry were in the military ... so was George Bush ... 

Bush&#039;s unit was never called to active duty ... but neither were thousands of other National Guard and reserve units ... and many of the units called to active duty never  went to Viet Nam ... so he didn&#039;t refuse to face being &quot;fired upon in anger&quot; ... he simply was never asked to ... 

As for Cheney ... in the beginnings of Viet Nam he was in college and had a student exemption ... something which was available to virtually all college students ... it was not what today&#039;s left tries to portray it as ... it was in fact only a deferment until completing school ... it had to be renewed yearly and you had to maintain good standing in college or it was revoked ... after he completed school he was reclassified 1-A but was never called by the draft board ... 

And lastly I noticed you conveniently didn&#039;t bother to make any comment about the worst offender of all ... good old BILLY BOY ... he not only didn&#039;t serve he was a DRAFT DODGER (coward is a better description) who left the country to keep from serving when he was called to active duty and then actually worked against the war from outside the United States ... not quite to the level of Hanoi Jane ... but anti-US all the same ... 

Amazing how the left always wants to condemn Bush and Cheney on this but never wants to even mention the fact that they were here had they been called upon to serve while their &lt;em&gt;Clinton God Icon broke the law and ran from his responsibilities as a citizen of this country&lt;/em&gt; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lgm said:</p>
<p>Neither Bush nor Cheney were willing to put themselves in harms way in Vietnam. By contrast, both of their Democratic opponents (Gore, Kerry) actually were fired upon “in anger”. Even the swiftest swiftboaters admit that. Is MM saying that someone who is not willing to be in harm’s way has no business running the country?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes I think lgm stands for lacking grey matter &#8230; how about getting &#8220;all&#8221; the facts straight &#8230; Agreed Gore and Kerry were in the military &#8230; so was George Bush &#8230; </p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s unit was never called to active duty &#8230; but neither were thousands of other National Guard and reserve units &#8230; and many of the units called to active duty never  went to Viet Nam &#8230; so he didn&#8217;t refuse to face being &#8220;fired upon in anger&#8221; &#8230; he simply was never asked to &#8230; </p>
<p>As for Cheney &#8230; in the beginnings of Viet Nam he was in college and had a student exemption &#8230; something which was available to virtually all college students &#8230; it was not what today&#8217;s left tries to portray it as &#8230; it was in fact only a deferment until completing school &#8230; it had to be renewed yearly and you had to maintain good standing in college or it was revoked &#8230; after he completed school he was reclassified 1-A but was never called by the draft board &#8230; </p>
<p>And lastly I noticed you conveniently didn&#8217;t bother to make any comment about the worst offender of all &#8230; good old BILLY BOY &#8230; he not only didn&#8217;t serve he was a DRAFT DODGER (coward is a better description) who left the country to keep from serving when he was called to active duty and then actually worked against the war from outside the United States &#8230; not quite to the level of Hanoi Jane &#8230; but anti-US all the same &#8230; </p>
<p>Amazing how the left always wants to condemn Bush and Cheney on this but never wants to even mention the fact that they were here had they been called upon to serve while their <em>Clinton God Icon broke the law and ran from his responsibilities as a citizen of this country</em> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at what you&#039;re saying.  Neither Bush nor Cheney were willing to put themselves in harms way in Vietnam.  By contrast, both of their Democratic opponents (Gore, Kerry) actually were fired upon &quot;in anger&quot;.  Even the swiftest swiftboaters admit that.  Is MM saying that someone who is not willing to be in harm&#039;s way has no business running the country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at what you&#8217;re saying.  Neither Bush nor Cheney were willing to put themselves in harms way in Vietnam.  By contrast, both of their Democratic opponents (Gore, Kerry) actually were fired upon &#8220;in anger&#8221;.  Even the swiftest swiftboaters admit that.  Is MM saying that someone who is not willing to be in harm&#8217;s way has no business running the country?</p>
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