Entertainers who support the troops

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 16, 2007 04:33 PM

We do a lot of Hollywood-bashing here, but when celebrities do something right, they deserve full credit and praise. John Ondrasik of Five for Fighting has brought together many musicians to produce a CD for the troops (hat tip – Blackfive). Here’s the lowdown:

Just in time for the holidays, 13 major recording artists have created a musical “Thank You” for the troops.

“CD for the Troops” will be available for anyone with a valid military identification card to download at no cost from the Army and Air Force Exchange Service Web site, www.aafes.com, beginning tomorrow.

…Mitch Bainwol, chief executive officer of the Recording Industry Association of America, agreed. “This is an historic project. It shows that a music community that has many voices speaks with just one when it comes to support for men and women in uniform,” he said in a news release from the Defense Department’s America Supports You program. “We are proud to come together to help offer a compilation with some of today’s best-selling artists and songs. We hope his album will be music to the ears of our troops.”

America Supports You is a Defense Department program connecting citizens and corporations with military personnel serving at home and abroad.

Getting this project, which combined the music of Billy Joel, Brooks & Dunn, the Goo Goo Dolls, Jewel, Josh Groban, Los Lonely Boys, Melissa Ethridge, the Neville Brothers, Sarah McLachlan, the Lt. Dan Band, Montgomery Gentry, The Fray, and Five For Fighting, to troops’ ears took true teamwork. John Ondrasik, the singer-songwriter who performs under the stage name “Five For Fighting,” was intimately involved with making sure that happened.

“Beyond the artists and managers, all the record companies and publishers had to approve free downloads to over 1.5 million potential users,” he said. “(It) also could not have been achieved without the financial, logistical, and emotional support of (the Recording Industry Association of America), AAFES, TriWest Health Care Alliance, America Supports You, Media Base and Sony Manufacturing.”

Ondrasik spearheaded the CD after being asked to write a forward and contribute a song to a compilation of local bands sending music to troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“I thought it was a wonderful gesture,” he said, explaining his belief that music is a unique medium that can affect morale and mental health. “I started making a few calls to friends of mine, and six months later we have the CD for the troops.”

Ondrasik has been a staunch supporter of the troops. I was lucky to attend one of his concerts earlier this spring, where he saluted active-duty troops and veterans in the audience, several of whom he had personally invited after meeting them during a visit to Guantanamo Bay. As I noted after the concert:

The most emotional moment of the night: When he told the crowd the back story behind “Two Lights,” about a young American soldier headed to Iraq and his Vietnam Vet father, and shared an update–turns out the father recently e-mailed him to let him know that the son is alive and well. (Flashback: Check out The Glenn and Helen Show interview with Ondrasik in case you missed it. Victor Davis Hanson played an integral part in “Two Lights.”)

Ondrasik’s message for the troops upon the release of the new CD:

“No matter how the troops hear the music, Ondrasik said he hopes it “inspires, motivates, provides an avenue for reflection, or simply distracts you from a mission few can imagine, much less undertake,” he said.

“If anything, let each tune be a small piece of home to carry you forward,” he said to the troops. “Thank you for all you do, and feel free to shoot me an e-mail with requests for ‘CD for the Troops II.’”

Spread the word. Support the entertainers who support the troops!

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  1. #174013
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:35 pm, Rusty said:

    I support what they’re doing, but it should be noted that “Billy Joel, Brooks & Dunn, the Goo Goo Dolls, Jewel, Josh Groban, Los Lonely Boys, Melissa Ethridge, the Neville Brothers, Sarah McLachlan, the Lt. Dan Band, Montgomery Gentry, The Fray, and Five For Fighting” are all pretty bland. Surely there are soldiers who would prefer something, I dunno, a little edgier?

  2. #174017
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:39 pm, Boomer said:

    Thanks for the good news from the entertainment industry. I know the troops have very strong support from the Country Music folks, but it is nice to see there are others that appreciate what they do. I thank them and salute them for their efforts to support and honor those that risk it all for our safety at home.

  3. #174018
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    This is terrific!

  4. #174021
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:41 pm, navywife91 said:

    The edgier groups like “Rage Against the Machine” are too busy calling for the arrest and/or killing of our President and his Cabinet. I love “Linkin Park”, but their latest CD is one I cannot let my daughters listen to all the way through due to their “f” bombs. Never had problems before, but the BDS has his one of my favorite groups. Not exactly great songs for the morale of troops, including my husband.

    I do understand what you’re saying Rusty, but I think there are a lot of military people who enjoy some of those acts and appreciate the effort.

  5. #174023
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:43 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Surely there are soldiers who would prefer something, I dunno, a little edgier?

    Rusty, nothing is stopping any “edgier” musician from providing free downloads to the military.

  6. #174025
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:44 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    Actually, there are quite a few movie stars who are ALL FOR our men and women in the service. My brother partied with quite a few famous people during Fleet Week in New York. He says Kelsey Grammer (for one) is a HUGE supporter of our military. Hugh Jackman is another….and he’s Australian. Once again, the media only puts out the bad information, never anything positive. I will make sure I get a copy of this CD : )

  7. #174032
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:51 pm, feebiebabe said:

    I believe Ondrasik was one of the musicians to play for FDNY & NYPD benefit after 9/11, that was a nice gesture as well.

    Glad to hear this. :-)

  8. #174036
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:55 pm, Bill DeFelice said:

    God Bless them!Hoorah!

  9. #174037
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:55 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Wow. wish we’d had that type of compilation of music when I was in Vietnam. I so believe better late than never. What a great gesture!

  10. #174039
    On November 16th, 2007 at 4:56 pm, DubiousD said:

    Gary Sinise and his Lt. Dan Band deserve special mention because they tour regularly with USO. This year alone they’ve entertained troops in Kuwait, Iraq, Germany, Belgium, and elsewhere. Last year they performed for troops in Afghanistan and the UAE, as well as aboard the USS Reagan and many military bases stateside.

    While I’m mightily impressed that the likes of Melissa Etheridge and Billy Joel have left the comfort of their million dollar mansions long enough to attend a studio recording session, Gary Sinise and the Lt. Dan Band are the real deal. They go wherever the troops go.

  11. #174044
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:00 pm, Rusty said:

    Rusty, nothing is stopping any “edgier” musician from providing free downloads to the military.

    You’re absolutely right. I wish that would happen.

  12. #174050
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:04 pm, Gothguy said:

    Gary Sinise and the Lt. Dan Band also have played at DAV conventions.

    They are a class act.

  13. #174055
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pm, DesertLover said:

    A good thing for sure … happy to see this group of musical artists doing something to show their support …

  14. #174056
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:09 pm, OneofThem said:

    I read this interview with him that has an awesome quote from him about his position on the war—too bad I can’t seem to find it right now. He basically was saying that the anti-war celebrities were acting like children and not thinking things through, and then he went on to give the common-sense explanation (which is my favorite one, by the way :P ) of how we’re helping in Iraq.

    I have “Superman” and “100 Years”; I need to buy some more of his stuff!

  15. #174057
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:09 pm, Buck I said:

    Kid Rock is an edgy guy who has done a lot to suppory the troops.

    I have to give a lot of respect to Five for Fighting. Anybody willing to give their talents to a charible cause is worthy of respect.

    Also, that Superman(It’s not easy) song was was ubiquitous “chicken soup for the soul” back in late 2001. That was a great song.

  16. #174058
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:11 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    My favorite – Stevie Nicks – (a moment of introspection please) gives away iPods filled with music to wounded service people at Walter Reed. By filling them with music, the service man or woman needn’t buy any music if they don’t want to, thus saving money.

  17. #174059
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pm, navywife91 said:

    Alohaguy,
    I wasn’t aware Stevie Nicks was doing that. It’s nice to hear good things for a change.

  18. #174063
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:19 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    It’s nice to see that there are some soul-searching Hollywood types out there. Sadly, it would seem, that most of those in a position of authority are too easily inclined to insult the people who are largely responsible for their own lives of excess.

  19. #174065
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:20 pm, ajmontana said:

    Kudos to them!

  20. #174067
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:22 pm, watershed said:

    Hopefully this is some decent proof to some commenters here that you can be anti-war, like many on this list of musicians are, and pro-troop.

  21. #174073
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:25 pm, amigoneus said:

    #20 Watershed

    I don’t want to speak for anyone else here, but I personally do believe people can be anti-war and pro-troops. However when someone is speaking out against the troops or doing things like sitting in the road with your kids to stop troops from getting necessary supplies, and then they claim they are “pro-troops,” it’s a crock.

  22. #174076
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:28 pm, navywife91 said:

    #20
    Some of them may be “anti-war”, but I don’t even know personally. Maybe they keep it to themselves so that this CD is not turned into a political issue. I know that I support this war and it’s objectives. By the way, not all people who are “anti-war” are supporters of the troops. Calling them mercinaries, baby killers and terrorists doesn’t sound too supportive to me.

  23. #174075
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:28 pm, uhangtight said:

    great to hear.. and it would be nice if more would donate as these mentioned above. If these edgier musicians keep saying they support the troops, maybe they should show their ‘patriotism’ by following the likes of those mentioned in this post? Would be a very nice gesture.

    God Bless Our Military and their families.

  24. #174078
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:28 pm, ajmontana said:

    fasten your seatbelt for that remark toolshed.

  25. #174079
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:29 pm, navywife91 said:

    here it comes….

  26. #174087
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:35 pm, WarTip said:

    I always wondered why Gary Sinise was not in more movies.

    It’s good to hear some good news for a change. Maybe we can compile a list of those who are actively supporting the troops and the country and find some way to show our support?

    Stevie Nicks too? Cool.

  27. #174090
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:36 pm, tacodawn said:

    This is such a great story!

    It’s important to give to charities and to pray and send goodwill to everyone in the Armed Forces.

    We can do it!

  28. #174095
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:42 pm, watershed said:

    #24

    Hang on?

    Not really sure what was so radical about my post. Just thought it was a cool gesture of MM to give some face time to some anti-war musicians.

  29. #174097
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:43 pm, dmartin said:

    Surely there are soldiers who would prefer something, I dunno, a little edgier?

    Maybe. Or it could be they’ve had all the edginess they can stand fighting the head-chopper-offers.

  30. #174100
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pm, walterc said:

    It’s nice to hear about people int he entertainment industry that are supporting the troops.

    I didn’t know about Stevie Nicks. Makes me like her even more.

    I noticed a couple of names missing . . Dixie Chicks, Steisand, that Bono guy from U2 . . .

  31. #174105
    On November 16th, 2007 at 5:53 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Surely there are soldiers who would prefer something, I dunno, a little edgier?

    I think, given the hatred for our troops that’s spewed from Hollywood and other moonbat havens on the West coast, the troops would prefer the support – regardless of the music.

    I applaud all these performers. Thank you – I will remember your names when I buy albums. Especially Josh Groban. I’m a HUGE fan of his…his August 7 concert here was incredible. ;)

  32. #174117
    On November 16th, 2007 at 6:11 pm, Mookie said:

  33. #174118
    On November 16th, 2007 at 6:12 pm, Mookie said:

    Oops. Here’s another one:

    Fallen Patriot Fund

  34. #174119
    On November 16th, 2007 at 6:13 pm, Kimmer said:

    Edgier? My son-in-law, a sub officer, just attended a Billy Joel concert last week with our daughter. She said he was WAAY into the music and experience. BTW they’re both not yet 25.

  35. #174135
    On November 16th, 2007 at 6:53 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Nope, you can’t be antiwar and protroop it’s a cognitive dissonance. My son , who is in Iraq says the same thing as I do…. I was in Vietnam. That so called position sounds like middle of the road claptrap….. my apologies for being so blunt.

  36. #174137
    On November 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pm, RetFireman said:

    What some of us commenters are opposed to is, “they are oppressors, occupiers, they kill innocent men, women and children, they are fighting an illegal war for oil, they have slaughtered hundreds, if not millions of innocents, they are polluting the earth with nuclear waste and are destroying the land and people, utterly making the area come unglued….but hey, we support them”.

    THAT is what we are against. the fact that you can’t see the difference is not surprising. You probably still think that Clinton was impeached for his definition of “is” and a cigar.

    So I couldn’t help but be utterly shocked that the Dixie Chicks were not on said music project. After all, we all know how much they support the troops. Just ask them.

    And why do you think these Libs all say they support the troops? Do you really think that they would come forward and say they didn’t?

  37. #174142
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:06 pm, RetFireman said:

    And leave it to Rusty to never be satisfied.

    Just imagine if this sort of thing happened all the time and had been going on since the beginning.

    Imagine what this entire war would have been like, and how soon it and the entire terrorist threat would have gone away would the Liberals and the other anti-America, blame America First crowd had actually been supportive and behind it. Had they not been so devisive just for the sake of being divisive, this all would have been over with already.

    COnsidering most of them don’t even know what it is they are opposing, it doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

    It also kills me that they blame Bush and the “neo-cons” for being so divisive. Just exactly who has it been that has carried out the lie about Bush and Republicans defrauding the 2000 election, carried on about how “Bush is not my President” etc. for over 7 years now? It sure as Hell hasn’t been us. In order for this country to be united again, the Liberals, Democrats and Left in general need to get off their high horse, stop their ridiculousness and get behind this country. They need to admit that Bush is the legitimately elected President based, if nothing else, on the Constitution they are so afrais of having trampled, they need to stop their calls for this “revenge” impeachment that they have been calling for since January of 2001, drop this whole 9-11 conspiricy nonsense and finally acknowledge that we are at war with a people that declared it on us way back in the 90’s, if not earlier, and they did so unprovoked by attacking us and other free countries all in the name of their religion…a reason that they themselves oppose of when it comes to prayer in classrooms or the Ten Commandments on the walls of courtrooms.

    It isn’t that difficult to do a self-examination, but it takes a person of deep character to admit how wrong they have been and to actually change for the good.

    I don’t see that happening, but it will take the Liberals to change before any uniting will occur, regardless who is elected come this time next year. If anyone thinks it will be better should a Democrat (God Forbid) gets elected, they are miserably mistaken. The Left will only act more like spoiled 12 year olds, carrying on about “Nyah nyah nyah” attitudes. God help us all should that occur.

  38. #174146
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:09 pm, Mookie said:

    Here’s a question: if a soldier receives support from someone who is considered to be against the troops by being against the war, does that make the soldier a traitor?

  39. #174148
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:11 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    #39 — I don’t know the answer to that question, but it made my heart a bit sad to realize anyone would ever think to ask it. It shouldn’t even be a scenario we would ever think about, let alone have to decide on.

  40. #174149
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:11 pm, zorro said:

    Thanks Michelle, I forwarded this post to my buddies down in Ft. Walton.

    And thanks to John Ondrasik and all who participated. May God Bless them all.

  41. #174151
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:13 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    # 39

    NO!…. and the the thought track is not even logical.

  42. #174157
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    For anyone who is interested, I read a poem recently about how it should really be about the war, no dissembling about who supports what and doesn’t support what else…

    The poem is called “Consequences” and is written by David. G. Bancroft.

    He’s got it right.

  43. #174158
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pm, Mookie said:

    #42

    I agree that it’s completely illogical but I’m wondering if charities that provide support to soldiers and their families will have to turn away donations from celebrities that are considered anti-war and therefore anti-troops. Mark Cuban has his Fallen Patriot Fund and hosts soldiers and their families at every Mavs game. Rosie O’Donnell donated over half a million dollars to the Brooke Army Medical Center. These are two people who have been vilified for not supporting the troops but their actions say otherwise.

  44. #174166
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:29 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    #44 — their actions say that they “support” (read: give what amounts to pocket change) to make themselves feel better, they do not, I repeat DO NOT do it for the troops.

    If they really wanted to do something for the troops, they might start by taking time to stop and think about what dreck they are spewing before they open their loony mouths.

  45. #174170
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:32 pm, Mookie said:

    #45- So what you’re saying is that Mark Cuban doesn’t really support the troops, despite everything he routinely does for them?

  46. #174171
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:33 pm, terrig said:

    Leave it to pro-death Rusty to put a damper on the spirit of it all.
    Anywho, Mookie-perhaps Cuban has done some good things in the past but he financed “Redacted” and if you don’t believe that will harm the military then you are sadly mistaken. I don’t care how much Rosie O’Dufus has given-she calls the troops terrorists, “650,000 Innocent Iraqis killed-who are the terrorists?”. So you can say what you want but speaking for myself and my husband (troops) we don’t want or need their support. BTW you must be another of the trolls who show up here from Kos.

  47. #174173
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:34 pm, terrig said:

    BTW Mookie, we will be out there protesting his stupid movie as will be others we know. You can kiss his a$$ all you want but I could don’t care that he has a token troop or two at his games, he’s an a$$hat.

  48. #174174
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:35 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    #47 — Mookie is kooky! :lol:

  49. #174175
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:36 pm, Mookie said:

    #47 I’m a troll because I’m conflicted about the support the troops/don’t support the war idea?

  50. #174179
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:38 pm, terrig said:

    So brave of you Mookie to be “conflicted”. Please get over yourself. Yes, you are a troll. Personally, I could careless if you are conflicted. You don’t really like what the military does do you? Some people have to do that job so you can type away from your safe keyboard.

  51. #174181
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:39 pm, Mookie said:

    Geez, jump to conclusions much? My entire point is that I don’t understand why someone who is anti-war would spend all of that time and money on people they don’t support. It seems like an exercise in futility to me. Why even bother? Melissa Ethridge has been very outspoken against the war and yet she’s on this CD.

  52. #174182
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:40 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    Mookie:

    Let’s get just one thing straight — you cannot have it both ways. You either support the wholeheartedly, or you dont. It’s that simple.

    And furthermore (I know, I know, that’s two things…), just because somebody you see on TV alot says it doesn’t mean it is TRUE!!!! Or RIGHT!!!! Or even COHERENT!!!!

  53. #174185
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:44 pm, terrig said:

    Well, you can feel love for Cuban all you want but if you believe that his movie won’t get people killed then you are living in a fantasy world. Speaking only for myself, I can tell you when I was in and as a wife of an Army Officer I got/get very tired of this “we support the troops, we just don’t like their jobs, they should be pitied because they can do nothing else with their stupid, boring lives”. I would perfer that that Etheridge stay off it because I can guarantee you that 98% will skip over her stupid song. Same for mellenhead when he was at Walter Reed. Notice it got very little press? Heard from someone who is up there being treated that the guys (most hardly knew who he was) were polite and wondered why he was there since he hates the military and war so much. But again it is safe to be at your keyboard isn’t it?

  54. #174186
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:44 pm, Mookie said:

    51, you have absolutely no clue what my feelings are about the military or the war in Iraq. None whatsoever. My dad, both grandfathers and four uncles were all in the military and they are my heroes. But feel free to sit there and presume to know how I feel based on a single question.

  55. #174188
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:46 pm, terrig said:

    MissMarciLynn, notice how folks like Rusty, lgm, and this mookie all believe that they can have it both ways. Funny though the troops don’t believe it but I guess it makes the “conflicted” mookie feel better about himself thinking they do.

  56. #174189
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:46 pm, Mookie said:

    And can we please stop assuming I love Mark Cuban? I’m a Celtics fan and think he’s obnoxious.

  57. #174190
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:47 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    Mookie:

    If those men in your family are your heroes, then they obviously deserve to be. However, I refer back to my first comment (#40)…the simple fact that the question even occured to you speaks volumes about how you ‘feel’ about the military.

  58. #174192
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:48 pm, terrig said:

    Oh, I’m so sorry you’re conflicted but seriously my family has been in since the War of 1812 and every war since. I did my time in Desert Storm and has seen my husband off multiple times since I was married starting with Bosnia in 1999. So again, get over yourself. I can tell by your “conflicted” feelings that you don’t like what they have to do but someone has to go and do the dirty work. You should have learned that from your family.

  59. #174194
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:48 pm, Mookie said:

    Terrig, get over yourself. Never once did I say I was conflicted about supporting the troops and supporting the mission. I’m talking about celebrities.

  60. #174195
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:49 pm, terrig said:

    Mookie, you told us how wonderful Cuban was. I don’t care if you like the Celtics you obviously admire this jerk.

  61. #174198
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:51 pm, terrig said:

    Why do you care if they’re conflicted? I think for the most part the ones who do it quietly (Kelsey Grammar, the Lt. Dan Band) who don’t make a big deal out of it are the ones who should be admired. It’s morons like Cuban, Etheridge and O’Doofus who make sure everyone knows what they do that stick in my craw.

  62. #174199
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:51 pm, Mookie said:

    #58, did you miss the part where I said I think it’s completely illogical? But do you really think that if a military family accepted help from someone like Rosie or Mark Cuban there wouldn’t be people who would question their patriotism?

  63. #174201
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:51 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    terrig — you got that right. All of this “we support the troops but not the war” crap is done to save face and sleep better at night (for those that would even have trouble sleeping at night).

    You know why I sleep better at night? I sleep better at night knowing that I don’t have to be afraid that someone is going to drop a bomb on my house or that someone will burst into my bedroom in the middle of the night and take me off to some hellhole of a jail because they don’t like the way I think, speak or worhip. And it is the bravest of all, our servicemen and servicewomen past and present, who have made this possible.

    GOD BLESS THEM, ONE AND ALL, AND GODSPEED YOUR MISSION! We need you more than we can ever express and respect you more than words can say.

  64. #174202
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:53 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    #63 — only people like you, and your precious Hollywood gurus.

  65. #174203
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:53 pm, Mookie said:

    #61, where did I say that Mark Cuban was wonderful? I used him as an example of someone who routinely does things to support the troops and has been vilified, especially this past week with the blowback towards Redacted, as being anti-troops. Not once did I say agree with his support of the film.

  66. #174205
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:54 pm, terrig said:

    Mookie, there are some people in the military who don’t like their jobs, don’t like going to war and will take anything for free they can get. It’s a cross section of society. Most people though will not question their patriotism if they want to sit in Cuban’s box section. If they still want to sit there after realizing that he’s responsible for that idiot movie then perhaps they should see someone.

  67. #174207
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:56 pm, Mookie said:

    #63 So the posts on FreeRepublic.com criticizing the soldiers at Brooke Army that posed with Rosie O’Donnell don’t apply? It’s just me and my “hollywood gurus”?

  68. #174210
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:57 pm, terrig said:

    I don’t really care if he does anything or not. I don’t like him, have always thought he was a turd (running on the court in the middle of games like he’s a player) and he’s the reason we quit watching that stupid “Dancing with the Stars”. He deserves blowback from this movie. You know, my husband had the responsibility of securing those two Soldiers who were kidnapped in 06 and tortured. Their bodies were boobytrapped and they had been tortured brutally before death. Now, that was in response to some perceived “crime” by US troops. Can you imagine what will happen after this pos comes out? He is an idiot.

  69. #174211
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:58 pm, Mookie said:

    #67- That was my entire point! After everything that’s happened with Redacted, you can’t tell me that the soldiers who sit with Cuban at the Mavs games won’t be looked at critically, especially by people like Bill O’Reilly.

  70. #174212
    On November 16th, 2007 at 7:59 pm, terrig said:

    #68 well there are a lot of people who question why someone would pose with O’Doofus but perhaps since they had been injured and were at Brooke they had no clue as to what she had said about their brothers and sisters in arms. Most probably still think she’s the “queen of nice” since they’re too busy working to have watched her on the spew.

  71. #174216
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:01 pm, terrig said:

    As I said the military is a cross section of society. Yes, I’m sure people will wonder what is wrong with them but they won’t question their patriotism because they’re in uniform-sanity perhaps, patriotism no.

  72. #174217
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:01 pm, Mookie said:

    Cuban is one of those guys that when they became rich beyond imagination, they start living out their high school years all over again, only this time they’re not the kid that gets picked on and shoved into lockers. The way he conducts his ownership of the Mavs is proof of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dirk shoves him into a locker some day.

  73. #174220
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:02 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    Okay, Mookie, now I can’t help but agree with you.

    Knock it off, will ya? :)

  74. #174224
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:04 pm, terrig said:

    #73-I will agree with you on that too. Here’s hoping Dirk will shove him into a locker someday! ;)

  75. #174225
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:04 pm, Mookie said:

    But it’s true! And Dancing With the Stars? That’s all about the proms he missed.

  76. #174229
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:06 pm, trinitytim said:

    Just got home from visitation for Colonel Overcash. As one who actually served in combat, I will have to back MNUSMC, terrig, and Miss MarcLyn.

    The original question is illogical. It makes no sense and to even pose it is ridiculous. I also wish we would have had a better reception when we got home and as for the CD, I would have taken anything over Armed Forces Radio.

  77. #174232
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:09 pm, terrig said:

    TrinityTim, was that at the Boy Scout thing with the MOH winner? Hubby called for tix but they said there were none left. Or am I confused which is entirely possible!

  78. #174240
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:14 pm, RetFireman said:

    So these “Celebrities” come out saying horrible things about the troops; they call them terrorists, baby killers, occupiers, compare them with Nazi’s etc., but then also say they support them and then donate some money or visit the hospital, all the while telling them how they were injured for a lie etc., and you honestly think they are doing so out of the kindness of their hearts? You honestly think, for one second, they are doing so because they truly support the troops and NOT because they saw what happened to the likes of the Dixie Chicks and thus feel that they need to do something they can refer back to so that their record sales or box office draw does not slip? Please.

    You cannot support anyone while at the same time denounce and be against what they do. It defies all logic and reality. Look back at what I wrote above and tell me if it makes sense?

    They do the money thing and visitations purely for publicity. Period.

    Saying “Support the Troops, Bring Them Home” is NOT supporting them. It calls for them to surrender to the enemy, leaving the job unfinished, demonstrates weakness to the enemy and leaving the job in question. this then results to a malaise in the soldiers the likes of which would make what happened to our Vietnam Vets look like a mere case of the Monday Blues.

    What they are asking for is in direct opposition to what the vast majority of the men and women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are on record repeatedly saying. They want to finish the job in both places and come home victorious only after demolishing the enemy and creating a free and stable Iraq and Afghanistan so that they do not have to come back in a few years to a much worse situation.

    Again, if you cannot see the difference, then you really do need to get an educationm and stop spreading Liberal rhettoric found on websites and bumperstickers.

  79. #174241
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:15 pm, trinitytim said:

    No Terri, it was a PGR mission but the other event sounds great.

    Redacted, now that’s a true indication of what kind of guy Cuban really is. He knows that movie will cause the deaths of American soldiers but he had to make his point. He’s the reason, I recommend that we bring back the draft. I would love to see him in boot camp or AIT (do they still call it that)

    terrig.. Thanks to Hubby for all that he has done. If I get down your way I’ll buy him and all your family dinner. God bless.

  80. #174245
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:16 pm, DirkBelig said:

    #26 WarTip – Gary Sinise is the star of “CSI: NY” which cuts down on the number of theatrical roles he can take. He’s not suffering for his inappropriate-for-Hollyweird beliefs. He’s just busy with other things.

  81. #174249
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:19 pm, MissMarciLyn said:

    #81…good point.

    Either way, I always knew I liked Lieutenant Dan!

  82. #174254
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:22 pm, terrig said:

    #80 We’re heading to VA at the end of the month (well hubby is staying until the 20th of Dec.) but appreciate the offer. :)

  83. #174279
    On November 16th, 2007 at 8:49 pm, Laree said:

    Five for Fighting, had also played right after 9/11, for one of the charitys, to raise money for 9-11 victims, the song “Superman” as I recall became an anthem in NYC. I think it is highly appropriate for them to be out front. I still enjoy listening to “Superman” when it comes on the radio.

  84. #174301
    On November 16th, 2007 at 9:04 pm, Crazy Horse said:

    On edgier music, ya’ll have seen what Drowning Pool is doing for the troops right???

  85. #174305
    On November 16th, 2007 at 9:12 pm, docflash said:

    During my last tour at Landstuhl,Cher came to visit the wounded.I was one of her escorts and I was totally surprised by the way she interacted with the troops.She told me she was against the war but not the troops.She stayed 2 hours past her scheduled time and made sure any troop that wanted a picture with her got it.I gained a new respect for her and was impressed with her attitude and tears she shed.There are a few that care.

  86. #174342
    On November 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pm, katieanne said:

    I’m glad to hear about this. I am keeping track and don’t support artists who don’t support the troops.

  87. #174374
    On November 16th, 2007 at 10:30 pm, Buck I said:

    You cannot support anyone while at the same time denounce and be against what they do. It defies all logic and reality.

    Maybe in this fool’s world you can’t. I feel sorry for the kids. Another stupid and close minded statement is causing me to shake my head.

  88. #174375
    On November 16th, 2007 at 10:30 pm, hadsil said:

    Melissa Etheridge? Cool.

  89. #174393
    On November 16th, 2007 at 11:16 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    OFF TOPIC ALERT

    Mini soap is on the way. Our daughter is in surgery at the moment for C-section. Trevor may be born befor the hour is up.

    WOOOOHOOOO!!!

  90. #174397
    On November 16th, 2007 at 11:18 pm, RetFireman said:

    stupid and close minded statement is causing me to shake my head.

    I was wondering what that loud rattling sound was.

    You’re right. Anyone who makes the stament that they support trhe person but not what they do makes a stupid and closed minded statement…along woth your endless pointless comments that are weak at best.

    What’s the matter…no billy goats tromping over your bridge tonight?

  91. #174400
    On November 16th, 2007 at 11:20 pm, RetFireman said:

    Congrats Soap. Let us know, I have the perfect roll of tobacco to celebrate in your name. Very nice, brought from Canada by a friend of mine, if you get the meaning.

  92. #174402
    On November 16th, 2007 at 11:24 pm, lonewolf said:

    Mark Cuban is an arrested development idiot who should be tried for sedition, treason, and aiding and abetting the enemy.

    Every rational person is “anti-war” in principal but some wars are necessary and this is one of them. When you are in one you better be in it all the way. It is maddening to hear fence-straddlers parrot the ” I am anti-(this) war but I support the troops” mantra. Nope, not possible. When you second guess the action and motives of the men putting their lives on the line, you are not “supporting the troops”. You are endangering them by encouraging our enemies.

  93. #174403
    On November 16th, 2007 at 11:27 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    As one Fireman to another – light ‘er up!

    Thanks RetFireman!

  94. #174415
    On November 16th, 2007 at 11:46 pm, Buck I said:

    You cannot support anyone while at the same time denounce and be against what they do. It defies all logic and reality.

    Retfireman with scotch on his breath:
    Well daughter, since you are voting democrat and volunteering at the ACLU, I’m no longer paying for college, and don’t come home for the holidays. It’s over.

    Well friends, since I don’t approve of your living together out of wedlock, I no longer support you and this friendship is over.

    Gee sister, you came out as a lesbian, well I no longer support you, and since I’m a a close-minded blowhard this relationship is over.

    That’s your concept in action, you absolute joke of a human being. Now go back to yelling at your kids, and get ready for the meeting at the lodge in the morning.

  95. #174425
    On November 17th, 2007 at 12:05 am, tacodawn said:

    It’s a bummer that this thread started out inspirational and then turned into this, especially after someone said they were going to pass it along to their buddies serving.

    So a good thing turned into another controversial topic ALL FOR NOTHING!

  96. #174433
    On November 17th, 2007 at 12:24 am, BrianNY said:

    I’m glad to see Sarah McLachlan on the list of contributing artists. IMO, she is the best singer-songwriter-performer-musician out there. Her live performances are incredible. Checkout Possession(Live) and Fear(Afterglow Live).

    I was afraid she might be a liberal knucklehead, but its nice when an artist you respect turns out to be both a tin man and a scarecrow (heart and a brain.)

  97. #174434
    On November 17th, 2007 at 12:27 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    UPDATE:

    Trevor came into the world at 6lbs 8ozs and 19 inches at 11:32pm eastern. He is perfect!

  98. #174444
    On November 17th, 2007 at 12:46 am, GAP said:

    WFBuckley didn’t agree with this war, as did not a few other conservative pundits. Are they “anti-troop?”

  99. #174445
    On November 17th, 2007 at 12:47 am, SirKnob said:

    Fantastic, I just downloaded all of them:-) Some of them I already had, but what the artists offered was a better quality :-) Thanks to all those that participated, I am sure there are many who will enjoy this gift :-)

    CONGRATS Soap :-)

  100. #174452
    On November 17th, 2007 at 1:06 am, MTNEER said:

    #1 Rusty, Spiro Agnew had a great descriptive term for the likes of you. Your comment about wanting edgier musicians seems only designed to cast this in a negative light. While you Natter away Rusty. I’ll listen to my Montgomery Gentry CD with their Hit “Hell Yeah” on it.

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