Reid’s war on the war: 63 Iraq votes, still no funding
The Senate on Friday blocked a Democratic proposal to pay for the Iraq war but require that troops start coming home.
The 53-45 vote was 15 votes short of the 60 needed to advance. It came minutes after the Senate rejected a Republican proposal to pay for the Iraq war without strings attached.
The Republican measure failed by an identical vote.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the only way to get troops the money was to approve the restrictions outlined by Democrats.
“Our troops continue to fight and die valiantly. And our Treasury continues to be depleted rapidly, for a peace that we seem far more interested in achieving than Iraq’s own political leaders,” said Reid, D-Nev.
63 votes on Iraq, more than 280 days since President Bush requested the emergency war funding.
And…nada.
Enjoy your Thanksgiving turkey, Harry.
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When will the Dems get over their hatred of the President? Oh, yeah, when they destroy the country. Then they’ll blame that on Bush, too.
They support the troops about as much as OBL.
As “tommy” Reid was leaving the podium the little grin on his face was like a 4th grader just heard the bell ring for summer break. These Dems are dangerous and dumber than a box of hammers. Go back to searchlight and hunt for your tiny brain Harry, you crapweasel.
these pandering evil crapweasels. i hope the military in nevada puts this guys feet to the fire when he goes home for Thanksgiving; and complains about his defeatist behavior.
a protest march (peacefully) outside of his office until he does the right thing. support the troops Harry Reid and not the DailyKos or George Soros.
But don’t question the defeat-o-crats patriotism.
This just in, Mr. Reid: The U.S. budget deficit fell to the lowest level in five years thanks to Bush’s tax cuts, which encouraged economic growth and, as a result, brought in higher revenues to the federal treasury. For three consecutive years under Bush, the deficit has fallen by $250 billion, putting the federal treasury on course for a surplus in 2012.
Apparently, dingy harry can’t be concerned with facts….there’s a defeatist’s bush derangement narrative to sustain!
I have a feeling that ole harry is going to go the way of Daschle–won’t that be sweet!!
The question I have, though, is will Congressional Republicans grow enough of a backbone (or big enough gumballs) to speak out about this?
Mrs. CHeney did the genealogy of Harry Reid and found he is related to OBL (his brother by blood).
That explains a lot!
.oO thinking he might tell everyone he is kidding. Naw, they know.
Jerk.
Pompous, arrogant, SOB. Will he put an expiration date on S-CHIP?
Soap having a Bear moment.
Image of soap driving a load of gum balls to the RNC and dumping the whole load and placing a sign on top:
“Get the picture?”
Harry Reid is imperiling the lives of our military men and women in Iraq. It is an absolute travesty that he and his fellow Democrats have denied EMERGENCY funding for over 9 months.
That funding pays for many things, like equipment that provides better protection for our troops. And adequate reserves of ammunition and equipment.
This is quickly approaching a point, or is perhaps past the point, where Reid’s antics are endangering our troops. And he and his cohorts can say with a straight face that they support the troops?
Reid and his cronies had agreed to wait and see what happened with the surge before they passed any final judgment. Now that the surge is showing positive results, it is back to the same old line, with a difference. At this time, they are now playing with the lives of our men and women in uniform.
Reid does not care how many troops die or are wounded. To Reid, they are expendable pawns in his political drama. For the life of me, I cannot understand how a US Senator can be so carefree about having the blood of US troops on his hands. It is, frankly, an abomination.
It is well past the time to get beyond why we went to Iraq in the first place. The fact of the matter is, we are there. It is high time to focus on what we do now, not what we should have done years ago.
Harry Reid and those like him area disgrace to the US Congress. In holding our sons and daughters hostage to a reckless course of action that he knows full well from past experience is not going to be accepted bears little difference from the hostage-taking terrorist that uses a human life as a negotiating tool for ransom. And when it comes right down to it, Reid is using the lives of our troops to make political hay. Congratulations, Harry, you are a Charter member of the US chapter of Al Qaeda.
Really
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I’m listening to last night’s Mark Levin Show right now. He just said that when Harry “the body” Reid is up for re-election, Mark will go to Nevada and campaign against this pitiful man, who Mark said, “he’s a stain on my country!” Amen to that.
I can’t wait for those stump speeches!
This strategy of trying to make Bush “veto the troops” is going to backfire on these idiots so badly, and they don’t even see it coming. They think they are winning politically by embarrassing Bush and holding our National Security hostage for passing pork spending and socialist dependancy programs.
The American people may be upset with Bush over a variety of things, but they (we) do not want to force our troops to lose on the field of battle, especially now that Gen. Petraeus has turned around the effort so dramatically.
This is going to blow up in their faces. I’m getting more sure of that as time passes. Now that SecDef Gates is telling the public that there are consequences to our front line troops and their families as a direct result of the Democrats holding the funding for the Pentagon hostage to their political and ideological agendas, regardless of the effect on our National Security.
The President should request prime time TV from the networks, and deliver an address to the American people from the desk in the Oval Office, to impart the seriousness of the crisis that Democrats are perpetrating on our military. Call them out by name, hold them accountable in front of the nation. I have a feeling that the reaction towards the Democrats might even dwarf the Shamnesty Revolt.
Make. Them. PAY.
Mark Levin closes out the show by playing “America the Beautiful“, by Ray Charles.
Damn, he’s awesome!
Levin/Malkin ‘08!!
Was’nt this the 56th or 57th time that Harry’s tried this crap. I guarantee you there is going to be atleast another 9 month’s of this and if a Republican is elected President you’ll see this for as long as our troops are their. I think even when the troops start drawing down and the war in Iraq is near it’s end the Dim’s will still not admit that we are victorious.
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I agree with those who are saying this is going to hurt the democrats. As disappointed as I was with the results of the 2006 election, I also realized that 2 years of a democratic congress could be the best thing that could happen to the republicans in 2008.
Many of the TV news analysts have been saying for quite some time that 2008 is shaping up to be a good year for the democrats in the election. I still think the foolish antiwar antics of Reid and Pelosi could result in the dems being given the hook.
Much better than mine Soap.
*30 pcs bows head
Seriously, I wish there were more I could do…
All guys have a Hairy Reed. The smart ones don’t let it guide their decisions.
30,
pull my finger
Oh, you meant about Reid and the surrendercrats – sorry.
Rambunctuous
Idiot
Encouraging
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A question for you pro-war patriots:
Would you tell me, roughly, what price of the Iraq War you believe makes it counterproductive to national security by sapping resources (as the CIA predicted in its 2020 report). In other words, forget about social programs — at what point would you say “zeesh, maybe that would be better spent on Arabic translators, satalite technology, troop recruitment, etc.” Another $500 billion? A trillion? Ten trillion? Give me an amount that you’d agree with the allegedly evil Senator Reid.
Good one Texas Tiger!!! Bravo!
Oops. Bad spelling. Too much caffeine!
Rambunctious
Elitist
Inciting
Dullard democrats
Question for diminutive plant boy: What price freedom?
My in laws are all left wing liberals MN born. This Thanksgiving is going to be rather stressful for them. I’m firing both barrels and going to pound them into the ground…. This is disgusting…. Democrats and liberals are now fair game for crushing ridicule whoever they may be. Who do you think is going to have a fun holiday?
Semper Fi David!
Pure speculation. During WWII, the War Department decided to allocate 90% of resources to the European Theater and 10% to the Pacific Theater. Would the outcome for the U.S. been better if the split had been 80/20? 50/50? Who knows?
Bonsai Billy,
Over ten thousand terrorist attacks, 10,000.00 What would you do to stop them? What should be done to stop them? Long should we try to stop them?
This same report also “predicts” that American global dominance could end in 15 years. Is this what you anti-war zealots want?
That would be you David!
Thanks for yor service.
Give em’ hell.
That should read How long should we try to stop them?
who said allegedly?
When is Bush going to really call this treasonist SOB out? Reid is NOT the Commander in Chief and has absolutely no authority to micromanage a war PERIOD!
I know Bush isn’t a nasty confontational person but this is our national security and our military we’re talking about. Bush is extremely passionate about both of them. It is way past time for him to totally explode in public and then watch the feathers fly. He could shut Reid and the rest of the defeatists up, but good, because of the national coverage it would get. They don’t have a serious leg to stand on. They really don’t! Beyond sucking up to their kook base, Bush has them dead to rights on every count of constitutional authority and actualy facts.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. President!!!!!!!!!!!!
The dems have to protect King Buba’s so called legacy and the only way to insure that Buba was not the worse President is to make President Bush fail in Iraq. They (Liberals and I mean all of them) are anti American.
Bonsai…..I’ve never met a pro-war person. Anywhere, anytime. What I’ve met are people concerned for their own safefy, the survival of their own country and/or civilization. Quite frankly, there almost is no price too high to pay for that.
As far as Reid’s demand for dates…you don’t ever win any “competitive event” (be it sports, elections, or wars) by limiting your options. That is a recipe for failure every time – in fact I think it’s somewhat guaranteed that failure will result if you limit your options.
So I ask you – how soon do you plan on a) converting, b) submitting, or c) being killed?
MNUSMCDavid
Thank you more than words can say!!
I just wish I could be there to watch, just to see a couple more ignorant liberals get it right between the eyes. I have had it with the left who will never listen to reality and their elected representatives putting this country at risk. It’s sad to be so harsh toward a lot of people who might be good people otherwise but this is life & death and the very existance of our country at stake.
Go get-em David!
#21 Bonsai Billy
All I need to do is look at my two children and I realize, no price is too high to pay to pass on to them a world free of terrorism.
Now, in all honesty, I am not a veteran. When I was young enough to enlist I had severe asthma, so they wouldn’t take me. But, I will pay any price to leave them a safer world.
Thanks for the support, but ya gotta have a little tough love sometimes, know what I mean?
The troops need this money. We are making extraordinary progress now – imagine if CENTCOM could afford everything they have planned!
It’s already been said, but, for some emphasis…What price freedom?
America needs to wake up. In World War 2, to help fund the war, Americans sacrificed. They bought war bonds. They rationed. They did what was necessary to ensure victory. Too many Americans today are more concerned about whether or not their Blackberry has the latest ringtone, whether or not Britney is wearing underwear, and how they can be more PC and less offensive than anyone else. They. Simply. Don’t. Care.
This funding bill affects mroe than just our troops. Without this war funding, the Department of Defense is going to have to dive into the Pentagon’s annual budget to fund the troops. The consequences? Bases will get closed. Hundreds of thousands of civillian contractors will be put on furlough, which means no more job for them. This affects me personally. I am a third generation soldier, and after I got out of the Army, I went to work training soldiers as a civillian. Because Congress can’t get off its colective ass, I might lose my job. I’d like Harry Reid to come explain to my son why daddy has to find a new job.
Crapweasels, all of them.
#37 Absolutely.
funny
#21 Bonsai Billy
Hey dude, in case you haven’t checked, defending this country, at any cost is the job of the federal government. Social spending is not only unconstitutional it is insane at the levels it has grown to.
The price?
That, my friends, was spoken by John Fitzgerald Kennedy. I got your price.
More dispicible actions by the Democrats. They are trying their very hardest to lose this war. I just do not understand why the Republicans are polling worse right now. Is it a communication issue? I mean, what have the Democrats accomplished?
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BINGO!
#21 … the price of freedom cannot be calculated in dollars and cents … it can only be calculated by each and every person’s appreciation of that freedom not being taken away from them …
I would imagine that if you bothered to trace your family back a few generations you would find relatives that fought and died so that you could be here objecting as you are …
can’t guarantee that but suspect the odds would favor my being right …
B-Billy crashes and burns.
Go play now before you get hurt.
There is no amount that is a limit on freedom. There is no “price tag” on liberty. You tell me, what amount of money is too much for you to support your military? When should we quit? How much is too much? What price is on surrender?
Was it worth the blood and treasure expended to have today a free and prosperous UK, France, Norway, The Netherlands, Denmark, Italy, Greece, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, just to name a few?
Should we have quit early so the Democrat FDR’s legacy would be tarnished to help Republicans in elections?
I don’t think so.
Dirty Harry and his cronies are playing chicken with our troop’s lives and I am less than pleased about it. There are people in my Squadron over there right now risking their butts on a daily basis. The Democrats are really striving for that 1% job approval rating!
Arcon (and others) — you are ducking the question. I didn’t ask you to put a price on freedom, I asked at what price you believe the Iraq War detracts from freedom — i.e., makes our military weaker (that’s why I said forget about social programs).
But let’s seriously examine the “no price too high” logic. For Iraq this is just silly: would anyone, for example, leave the Korean DMZ to put more troops in Iraq? Stop maintenance and research on anti-missile defense? Come on now. But what about “no price is too high” for “freedom” in general? It’s very Patrick Henry, but you know what, I bet that if it meant moving your families out of your homes and living in tents, 2/3 (at least) would say “we don’t need *that* much freedom.” If you are honest, you know that there’s a price to the war that you would say “you know what, that’s too much — that money could fight terrorism in better ways” and I’m asking you what that $$$ amount is for you.
Before you jump on me, I’d pay a gas/oil tax and devote all the procedes to the war in Iraq, because a patriot doesn’t fund the enemy. But if there’s one thing that Bush inarguably lied about, it’s the war’s costs (in fact, in 2003 they fired the guy who dared question the $70 billion prediction and said the war might cost twice as much — if only!).
True Shrub – I’ve said it before – Freedom is NOT free – the price is blood! If you’re not willing to pay the price because you feel it’s too high, then just sit back, shut up, and enjoy the freedom that somebody else purchased for you. But regardless, my freedom is NOT yours or Harry’s to give away. You can surrender your own “freedom” if you like, but let the rest of us get on with it.
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You cannot separate this battle in Iraq, along with the entire global war against radical Islamic terrorists from defending freedom. Therefore, the “pay any price” still applies.
PS: The answer is not more taxes on gas. The answer is killing terrorists bent on our destruction. Period.
Dingy Harry keeps trying to claim that the DoD can simply move money around from other accounts to continue to run the war for another 6 months …
That is total BS … the budget doesn’t work that way … there is not one big checking account where all the money is availble … money is allocated to be used for different purposes in the budget and is spread across those programs accounts and cannot be simply “moved” …
If it were that simple the president could start by pulling back 50% of the funds from every non-military program and use it for the war … follow that with suspending all the staff money for congress … and then he could simply confiscate every penny of the pork that congress has put into all the other bills they have pushed through and give that to the military as well …
getting the picture there Reid?
This war on terror is not going to be won with fancy high tech gadgets and gizmos. It is going to be won exactly the way that it has been won in Iraq and Afghanistan. Boots on the ground and filling those boots the best of what America and the west stands for. The troops on the ground on have done more to smash the stereotypes of what Americans are that has been promoted through movies, music, and the constant news coverage of petulant Hollywood spoiled brats. All of the high tech gadgets and golly gee whiz stuff will only assist once we get wind of some sort of attack. The actions of service members in a dozen countries around the world helps to ensure that those type of plans never come to be.
Law enforcement only kicks in once a crime has been committed. Once again our military though their work in the communities, not just killing the insurgents and terrorists, but giving a helping hand and setting the example that we are all not a bunch of narcissistic publicity hounds keeps the seeds of hatred from being planted.
So hate the military if you want, but I see no other group willing to go in to the lion’s den and instead of killing the lion show them that we can live in peace, not with one ruling the other or imposing our will on them and vice versa, but as neighbors.
The fact that one needs to even question what maximum amount is needed for funding shows the malady that exists among people in our country. The additional fact is that we have a supposed intelligent and educated populace that does not see the absolute evil that is the Islamic theocratic goal of world domination at our cost of life, liberty and our pursuit of happiness. This is something I have sacrificed for and would do again because it is so vitally important.
Desert Lover you are dead on about the Pentagon being able to reprogram funds. Last year war costs were being floated by the Military Personnel Appropriation while DoD was sweating out the supplemental bill to continue funding the warfighters. There are many programs that are fenced and can’t be used for other programs. I was watching the news this morning and Secretary Gates was talking about laying-off civilian employees and cutting back on contracts (some which provide for our war needs) to set aside funds for our warfighters. The Democrats are really playing with fire here.
When they did this in the 90’s we wound up canceling so much time on the rifle range. Instead of going to the field on maneuvers we spent time in conference rooms playing war games. You can shift money only so much.
The biggest need for this money is for the repair and maintainence of our equipment. The constant pace of the operations takes a toll on the equipment and without spare parts and replacement equipment it taxes the ability of commanders to carry out certain missions. It trickles down to the average troop who may have to go on patrol with insufficient equipment. NVG’s (Night Vision Goggles) that may not work correctly or HMMV’s that weren’t able to get retrofitted with the latest ballistic protection or even soldiers on patrol without the proper ballistic protection since there isn’t enough to go around.
Dems kill troops should be the headline.
Conservative #34, Please understand that I’m not trolling and am very much a Republican and conservative. No apology for that. But when you post “What I’ve met are people concerned for their own safefy, the survival of their own country and/or civilization. Quite frankly, there almost is no price too high to pay for that.” I think of how America is ignoring Taiwan! She is pleading to be free from Red China and we do nothing but turn our backs on her. So, I’m starting to believe that America is all talk when it comes to defending and promoting Freedom. Now, let the insults come, but that’s how I feel. America is scared to death when it comes to fighting for freedom. China has uncle sam wetting his pants. Otherwise we would insist on Taiwan being a free state. After all, when Japan surrendered to us, Taiwan fell under our control. Formosa betrayed? You bet.
Bonsai,
I don’t think you realize how ridiculous your question really is. Many here have already said – “there is no price” yet you lay out a scenario in which we might say enough is enough (i.e., surrender). Today isn’t the day for that. Tomorrow isn’t either. What part of never surrender don’t you understand? Why isn’t winning apart of the equation?
What difference does it make where the money comes from if the likes of Dingy Harry and company refuse to provide the funding necessary to carry out this war? That’s what this is about. Not about Bush and who he may or may not have fired.
That money has DEFEATED AL QUEDA on the battlefield THEY CHOSE as the CENTRAL FRONT of the WAR AGAINST AMERICA.
AMERICA IS WINNING AND YOU WANT TO QUIT.
There has been no better way to fight terrorism than killing Al Queda where THEY DECIDED TO MAKE A STAND.
Do you want Bin Laden and Zawahiri defeated? How much is that worth to you?
GIVE ME AN AMOUNT AT WHICH YOU WILL AGREE WITH PRESIDENT BUSH AND GENERAL PETRAEUS.
Bonsai Billy,
How old were you when you were first dropped on your head?
Money does not equal freedom. The freest year of my life was after I got out of the Army. I made $9000 for the entire year. I lived in the mountains of Nevada and rode horses. I lived off the land, natural spring water and mule deer. And I had the FREEDOM to do so.
How much money should be spent on the War on Terror (which expands far beyond Iraq. This bill affects funding for our troops in Afghanistan as well)? As much as needs to be spent so our Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors can keep doing what they’ve been doing. Whether that’s building schools and hospitals, clearing sewer lines, disarming UXO and IEDs, or just some good, old fashioned shooting people in the face, give the men and women the money to do their job.
Contrast this with what Reid said almost 1 year ago:
And for a good laugh, read what he said last April:
Is this clueless clown a liar or just senile? In any case, he changes his position more often than a reed blowing in the wind.
I would have to agree with you. For some reason, most of America is scared to fight for freedom. That’s why they don’t mind their own civillian liberites being eroded at home, much less afar.
#36 tre
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I understand your sentiment. I joined the National Guard in 1981, but my legs gave out before I could make it through boot camp. All I can say is that for the brief time I was allowed to wear them, I was more proud of those army fatigues than any suit of clothes I’ve ever had. I would gladly pay any price to keep my country free. And should anyone ever get past the world’s mightiest military and invade this country, they would still have to get past on old country boy with a shotgun.
Jim,
That is B-Billy on the other thread where momma dropped him.
Really, how stooooopid can one be to suggest that we pay more taxes and add them to the funds the surrendercrats refuse to give to the troops?
BB=Moby-troll
David wrote “The additional fact is that we have a supposed intelligent and educated populace that does not see the absolute evil that is the Islamic theocratic goal of world domination at our cost of life, liberty and our pursuit of happiness”
That really sums up the problem on the left about the conflict in Iraq. How can they see and read about the sickening horrow of the things those animals do and not want to defeat them? Literally cooking children, sawing off the heads of innocent people on film, blowing up women and children for no reason, and on and on. Does any of this mean anything you you lefties?
In addition to the microwave society we have become (demanding instant results to difficult problems) I call it refusal deal with reality and facts. The left cannot do that on almost any issue. They live in an abstract universe without consequences and only hypothetical utopia. Neither of those concepts can actually be achieved. (Like…lets negotiate with our enemies…involve the UN….as just two stupid and useless suggestions from the left.)
Their only arguments are based on emotion not reality or logical thinking. There is of course the natural playbook tendencies like “raise taxes” as Billy Boy suggested to cover the cost. This is the survival of our country we are talking about. I forgot though, political power is or important to the left.
You nailed it, sir. Your post ought to serve as a format for a 527 ad this week. (Hello Move America Forward!!!) Find the video, put these comments together with his recent antics, and watch all the Democrats squirm in the heat!
Make Dingy Harry pay for this dearly.
#50 Bonsai Billy
I just ask again. Look at your children and ask yourself, how much is it worth to leave them a safe world.
See that Bonsai?…no mention of how much money he would need to be paid in order to protect his country. Just that he would at any cost. And he is not alone. This country is full of men like him.
Well, I quess Harry Reid is not the only Democrat who is senile. Pelosi, too, is having a mind freeze and can’t seem to remember her promise of just 1 year ago:
Contrast this with what she is saying now:
#59. John. I’m one who is with you on that. I’ve been privileged to have traveled and worked all over Asia (all in the corporate world). I’ve said since the first time I went to Taiwan that the USA could solve the Taiwan issue very easily. We could just announce some day that we recognized Taiwan as a sovereign country. The rest of the world would follow suit. What would/could China do? They would make a lot of noise, but I really doubt they would be willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. If the USA did it, it in fact, gives the leadership of PRC a way out. They could easily spin it that they had no control over it. If they “give” Taiwan away, they then would be perceived as weak.
Mind you – I was in China 3 weeks before Tianamen Square incident, and on Taiwan when it occurred. Have stamps in my passport from both places more than once right at the same time the USA was sailing aircraft carriers through the straights to “settle things down”.
The average man on the streets in PRC doesn’t care. The average man on the streets on Taiwan though cares quite a bit.
Yes Papa! Throw Pelosi in there too. Maybe one ad isn’t enough. We’ve also got Kerry, Durbin, Kennedy, Boxer, Clinton, Feingold, Schumer, Lehey, Rockerfeller. That’s just in the Senate. The real kooks are in the House, and there are too many of them to remember. Dennis the Menace comes to mind.
A series of 60 sec. ads with a national ad buy on FNC, CNN, MSLSD, NBC, C-BS, ABC. Run them all day for a month. Make them pay for holding our troops and our liberty hostage to an agenda that America doesn’t want. Make Shamnesty seem tame by comparison. Melt the phone lines on the Hill, explode fax machines and avalanche the e-mail servers.
Make them feel the heat.
CR #73, Thanks. You are exactly correct about the people in CHina and the people in Taiwan. I too, have been to both many times (wife is from taiwan but became a US citizen LEGALLY). So, I might be biased. None the less, Taiwan should be recognized by the U.N., after all, they recognize Hezbollah.
#69 Brian72, if you want a quote that the general public will pay attention to, here’s one for you from April of 06 when Nancy was vying to become Speaker:
A few months after Pelosi became Speaker of the House, gas prices hit an all-time high. I guess raising taxes on oil companies didn’t bring down the price of gas like they thought it would. If all their plans are as good as this one, we’re all in a heap of trouble if they win in ‘08.
Harry Reid is a one trick pony and a terminal BDS sufferer. Anyone who believes any of his tripe or voted for him should be sent off to a socialist republic of some sort. They will get what they want there and stop bringing my Country down.
Papa Louie, outstanding work! Simply outstanding.
Hey where’d Billy Bob go?
Ummm, my guess is, checking out peace oriented websites that have talking points against our arguments…..I hope!
I do love shooting ducks out of water at times….
HA!
Me too. It’s a beautiful thing.
I am no foreign policy expert. I do fancy myself as a person with simple answers, such as putting gas in the tank before adjusting the fuel injector.
When it comes to Taiwan, I agree that we as a nation should do more. Three quick steps:
1. Tell Red China that they either take our trade money and shut up — or simply shut up.
2. Encourage Japan and South Korea to get in on the action in helping Taiwan free itself.
3. Encourage a massive infusion (Singapore-style) of private business ventures with Taiwan. Get government restrictions out of the way, and let the freedom flow.
When you think about it, you can apply those steps with many countries dying to be free. Perhaps I am naive. But that’s my (slightly ignorant) take.
Here’s a suggestion….
Give California, New York and Massachusetts to the left so they can form their won little world. No federal assistance of any kind. You are ON YOUR OWN to run the places in the warped image of what you want this country to be. You can tax, spend, abort, and do whatever you want but not one dime of taxpayer money and no security help from the federal government or the rest of this great country you re trying so hard to tear down.
How long before there is total anarchy?
I was thinking specifically about the war funding issue right now, but that is certainly another good one.
There is a gold mine of idiotic statements that will be used to defeat these people in the Presidential race, and Congressional “Blue Dog Democrats” who were elected on a fraudulent platform of conservative values in the Democrat Party.
Right now, this week, the funding for the troops is the main thing. This isn’t all about the election to come for me. Right now they need to be knee-capped, forced to capitulate and give the troops the funding to do their jobs for us.
After we get the troops what they need, then widen the assault to more general issues where they disagree with 70-80% of the American people.
Hello RNC!
ACHEFTY #81, I like #1 the best.
Michelle, it pains me to have to correct the “boss” but you wrote your intro wrong. You said: Enjoy your Thanksgiving turkey, Harry.
Should be: Enjoy your Thanksgiving, turkey Harry.
These stupid, moronic dimocraps actually believe that the majority of those in the military (yes there are a few liberals) actually believe they support them and what they do. Again, I never see myself ever voting again for another dim as long as I live. These people are a disgrace.
found on Drudge report
Reid to Keep Senate in Session to Prevent Recess Appointments…
Those that question the long term strategy in Iraq need to do two things: First, answer the question whether long term stability in the middle east in in our strategic interests and, Second, get out a map.
As to the first point, one only needs to look at the source of the 10,000 terror attacks across the world since 9/11. The seeds and support for those attacks germinated in the middle east. And thanks to the Father of Jihad, Jimmy Carter, the terror movement was validated in 1979 and has grown from a regional issue into a world wide concern.
Got you map ready? Locate Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq is strategically located between Iran and Syria, two of the biggest state sponsors of terror. On the other side of Iran (look to the right) is Afghanistan. So having two stable governments on either side of Iran just may be a good thing in the long term.
Now if we cut and run, we open a very wide door to Iran and Syria to essentially turn Iraq and Afghanistan into countries that will be ruled by Hamas on steroids. The people that helped the US or otherwise resisted the terrorists for a independent Iraq or Afghanistan will be slaughtered. It will make the people killed under Saddam’s rule look like a picnic.
And it will result in a threat hundreds of times worse than we face today. Our generation may not see the full effect, but our children and grandchildren will pay the price of our apathy, selfishness and lack of foresight.
The Harry Reid’s of the world are willing to mortgage the future of this country to hang on to their positions of power. I am not.
Jim,
You forgot one thing. Liberals can’t see beyond the media spotlight, fund raising, or grasp/understand the concept of anything intelligent beyond the next 30 seconds. (Political power and elections notwithstanding.)
Remember Pelosi said, and got away with saying, AlQaeda wasn’t in Iraq. They keep sweeping under the rug all the reasons for why we are there. Your map suggestion would be too simple if anybody tried it and then they would be left to coming up with some other idiotic spin against the “Bush” approach. Just wait, when the notion of victory becomes more and more front page news, Reid, Peolsi, and the rest of them will come up with a reason that THEY deserve the credit or would have done it better.
Do any of these people own mirrors?
JA – #75. We can’t expect the UN to do anything constructive. It’s essentially the “external arm” of the democratic party (or maybe that is reversed which is the arm and which is the … oh never mind). Anyway, my point was if the USA took the lead, everybody would follow and China would get over it. AND the leadership in China would in fact breath a sigh of relief in that they were off the hook. Right now they are on the hook as a matter of saving face.
To any and all of the “we’re doing the wrong thing” crowd:
Which do you prefer? Convert, Submit, Die. Take your pick. It’s even a multiple “choice” in that you can pick convert and still get shot if you convert to the wrong kind of Muslim.
I submit, there is a fourth choice. It’s called fighting back NOW. But if you don’t take this option now, then #’s 1, 2 and/or 3 will be for you.
Rus,
You are being precise about this situation and spelling out REALITY. That doesn’t register to the left. Utopia can be achieved, remember?