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Another great stocking stuffer for the teenagers in our lives.
Thanks Michelle, your choice of stories to post and selection of gift ideas is as always, impeccable. If I were president, I’d award you the Medal of Freedom for your love of country and patriotism. And I’ll fight anyone who disagrees!
…to your liberal
friendsacquaintances. Most of us don’t have liberal friends – LOL!I’m waiting for the fundamentally un-American ACLU to intercede and stop people from mixing God with their country.
I’m sure this will be a great movie, and there are LOTS of wonderful stories thanks to soldiers – there are plenty of videos out there that show another reality too.
WHY are these soldiers posting such videos?
Teaching Iraqi kids to swear
8 Year Old Iraqi Girl Hot Boxin A Newport for candy
Want some water?
Everyone should buy one to donate to their local library and/or children’s school.
It’s in pre-order right now. I hope he plans on getting it on Amazon so people who don’t come here or to other conservative sites will come across it.
I am glad to see a movie supporting our troops. It’s about time.
snausage de palma
# 7, lmao, sausage is an idiot.
Too bad this movie isn’t playing at the local theatre though.
#4
Of course responsible, probing journalism shows both sides of a story. As goes God and Country’s positive message, so goes the Iraqi children mocked while they run for water vid. They both need to be seen to get the full dimension of the situation.
Hallelujah
Well, we’ve heard from the brain damaged section and gotten that out of the way. Thank you sausage and watershed. Now please go back to your training regimen for the special olympics.
I think this is a great idea, and I just purchased the DVD.
Hurray for a movie I want to see!
Just watch out for Golden Compass. It comes from a
trilogy written by an atheist.
Grow up. I guess Roots was antiAmerican.
Mock Watershed and Sausage if you will, but all sides and truths should be told. With the twisted logic some of you spew, there should never be movies about slavery, government corruption ect… That being said, I hope this movie does well, because it’s another artistic expression of “truth”.
truth is a true buckeye fan would be watching them play michigan right now, did d-kos take away your tv?
#11
Those videos are an unfortunate thing, and apparently it upsets you to the point of insulting your fellow Americans who simply aknowledge it as newsworthy. No one wants there to be bad news, but it must be exposed to show an entire story.
Supporting the troops means not ignoring when the bad apples are bad.
#4 #15
We get enough bad bad bad coming from the MSM. We really dont need to be reminded of it when something positive is shown. Do you protest as much when the negative is shown?
Its great to see something finally portray the real good men and women in our military and give them the credit they have deserved and is long overdue.
#16
No one is protesting this film. US soldiers do great work all over the world. That I simply acknowledge that there is excellent evidence that they sometimes do quite the opposite of good doesn’t mean I don’t support them. That’s your frame, not mine.
I read on Fox news website that there are quite a few protesters about the Boy Scouts and being stopped from collecting “care packages”. Anything new on that, Michelle?
I want a realistic, non-anti-American, non-anti-war, non-pro-terrorist movie from the book Lone Survivor, by Marcus Luttrell.
Universal Pictures has the movie rights, but who knows how the screenplay will differ from the book. After all, Tom Clancy’s Sum of All Fears was totally butchered by the Hollywood writers PC affliction.
Here is a part of the review of the book:
That’s the book. Now this plot summary excerpt is from the film’s page at imdb.com:
There you have it. Tom Clancy wrote it with the somewhat realistic scenario of Arab terrorists with nuclear weapons inciting the U.S. and Russia to destroy each other.
Hollywood buys the rights to do a screenplay, and all of a sudden the villians are white Austrian neo-Nazis, complete with an SS secret decoder ring.
Will Lone Survivor survive the Hollywood writer process intact, or will the SEAL’s be the bullies and the Taliban more sympathetic, with maybe a blame Darth Cheney element added?
We shall see.
Oh I’m watching, but I can only watch our idiot quarterback slip, fall and fumble so much, before I turn away and kick some knowledge to you folks. The people at the kos are just as foolish as some of the people here….just two sides of the same coin.
No one here has wished that Hillary be successfully killed in an Islamic terrorist suicide bombing attack. We simply debate people like you, with some well deserved mockery from time to time.
You are wrong there Bucky. Go Wolverines!
#21
No, you guys expose college students’ personal info and leave them open to death threats.
Give it up. Two sides, same coin.
Nope. Different coins, different currency.
No sale.
Take it from a guy from the the middle with no dog in the fight…”two sides, same coin”.
I’m a Bruin, so I’ve made an early mental transition from college football to college hoops.
ajmontana, check out this site:
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
I think you’ll recognize yourself quite quickly.
no thanks.
No, no,no,no,no. Kos and the Kossacks are completely worthless.
If Michelle’s reader community is so extreme and horrible, what are you honorable “moderates” even doing here? You know that your comments are not removed for ideological content, you are not cursed at and called Nazis or have awful death wished upon you. That is Kos.
Some people just can’t handle the truth.
a Bruin link, Trojan listen to a Bruin get real… lmao
I am impressed that someone can actually make a pro-US movie anymore. I hope it proves to portray or troops in the positive light they deserve. We really don’t like going to the theater anymore too many rude people that no longer know how to act in public. But it will find a place in our DVD collection.
#17 Exactly what do you do to support the troops? Gramma has an inquiring mind as well as a grandson in Iraq.
#26
I am mocked constantly on this site, simply because I disagree with the status quo here. No one group, left or right, has a monopoly on bad manners or behavior. That’s an absurd thing to say.
That’s it! You are all communists! I hope you get a very uncomfortable rash!
Just kidding:) I’m going to go watch this football game, you moderates with no dog in the fight have fun not standing for anything.
#29
May I ask why you ask me, instead of literally anyone else you could ask this question to on this board?
My patriotism has come into question already, a mere 30 posts in. This site is truly incredible!
A complete overreaction. She did not question your patriotism in any way, shape or form.
Better develop a thicker skin or a more convincing bluff.
RM
Yes, mockery is not the same as what the Kossacks do. You will be mocked from time to time, but no one here will say you are a KGB assassin, or that you deserve to die of colon cancer because of your opinions.
That is why the “two sides, same coin” doesn’t wash. Mockery is fine. You seem to keep coming back, so it can’t be that bad. Have a nice day everyone, it’s time for some football.
It’s funny how we can be in the middle and still believe strongly in certain issues and have values.
The UCLA B-ball team is primed for a big year. I haven’t seen your freshman phenom ,Love, play yet. Is he the Real Deal?
Brian72, you don’t really believe that do you? Being a “moderate” is actually pretty hard work. We don’t have the benefit of having a Rush or an Olberman tell us what to think. We actually have to do our research, analyze the issues, listen to all sides of the arguments, think critically, and then, God forbid, come to an independent conclusion without the benefit of a rigid ideology. Can you imagine?
aj, you being a Trojan explains a lot.
Roger that Buck I.
I’ve seen Love play twice this year, and have watched him play probably 10-12 times the last couple of summers in AAU ball. No doubt, he’s the real deal…we stay healthy, I’m calling banner number 12 heading up to the rafters. Unfortunately, Love’s likely a “one and done” guy.
Thank you.
I don’t think we as Christ followers should be celebrating militarism.
In fact, we should stand up to it and reject it wherever it stands.
You are confusing “militarism” with supporting and admiring the military.
The two are so different it makes me think you are deliberately trying to get a rise out of the commenters here.
RM
LMAO…no problem aj. SC, Angels…tough year.
Query aj: what model Beemer did daddy give you when you went off to that shining light of higher education that is the “University of Spoiled Children”?
Seriously, southernboy…your schtick is getting pretty tired.
lol, dakine saying southerboys schtick is tiresome, wish I had a nickel for every Angel put down you’ve tried, and please seriously, how many time do you think I’ve heard the spoiled children line? Angels Division champs …not bad. SC, Rose bowl maybe… nice try.
Two sides of same coin?
Please. Sarcasm is just people having fun.
I myself have been harassed on this site and called all kinds of names – bigot being my favorite (though dakine has led the charge of name calling towards me). I have thick skin and as far as I am concerned, get a sense of humor.
Our troll commentors are constantly coming here with their BDS and amking some terrible accusitions towards the POTUS.
Things may get heated here and I have done my share of nick-naming. I have been to the KOS sites and the liberal blogs and I can tell you without a doubt, this site IS NOT akin to those sites. Try throwing down the cussing they do there here, you will be gone. Try throwing down some nude photo links, you will be gone.
Please. I would say, if anything, this site is the flip side to the vile tripe on that other coin. (Sorry tripe)
People are mocked here because of the ridiculous bile they spew. This is not the place to drag your victim mentality and wear it like a badge of honor.
The US military has been very open about the abuses in the war zones and have zealously (sometimes over zealously) prosecuted the offenders.
There are 160,000 troops in the war zones. That is the size of a middle sized city. And in the 5 years our troops have been there, we have one rape and MAYBE 4 murders by US soldiers? And in that time, I would bet there have been many rapes and murders among the Iraqi and Afghani populations that are consistent with the crime rate in other countries.
How many cities in the US with populations around 160,000 have been limited to one rape in the last 5 years? How about murders?
When you look at the “bad” news you really need to put it in context. And I am sorry to say that the self loathing posters who blame America first have no sense of proportion or balance in their views. They thrive on bad news and bury any good news. They do everything possible to insure that their hatred of this country is not retarded by anything positive and good.
And let’s not split hairs here – I DO question your patriotism and I DO question your self loathing motives. Those people cannot ever view anything objectively since their disdain of the US or their outright hatred of President Bush leaves no room for facts. All we hear is an emotional diatribe time after time devoid of fact or logic the only value of which is to assuage notions and thoughts that have no basis in reality.
Some may call that ignorance. Others may call it stupidity, while still others may call it subversion. All, however, will call it annoying. So don’t act shocked and hurt when someone calls you onto the carpet for statements that bear no relation to reality.
If you want to continue to life in your bubble of hate, fine and dandy. Just don’t be surprised when someone here bursts that bubble or calls it what it really is.
Generally, I think it a bad idea to question anyone’s patriotism without some overt act that would give you reason to do so.
Jim may be strident but I have not seen anything that would make me question his patriotism or support of the troops. In fact, he has gone out of his way to differentiate between those troops who commit crimes and those who serve honorably.
That’s all anyone can do. And while a thread that celebrates the accomplishments of our troops may not be the smartest place to talk about it, Jim is not necessarily out of line for doing so.
Jim M.
I know you’re not referring to Watershed, Sausage, Dakine or myself on this thread.(Obviously I left Southernboy out). Your points just don’t match some of the commenters here. You have a pretty big diatribe up here, but I’m not exactly sure who you’re refering to with statements like unpatriotic and self-loathing. Similar to Retfireman, who accuses me of being unpatriotic and hating my country, there is no e.g. to cite to, so it just seems like a big blast at Mr. Strawman.
Yes, I agree that the majority of serviceman/women aren’t rapists and murderers. Maybe somebody might disagree(whoever you’re referring to I guess). Filmmakers are free to focus on the good or bad aspects of anything, no matter how big or small. I’m assuming you also dislike movies about corrupt cops and conservative politicians, or maybe I’m wrong. This unpatriotic and self loathing stuff is a little curious without a reference.
Wow!
aj, I busted your seeds maybe 2 or 3 times about the Angels…get over yourself.
soap, “leading the charge” against you. Narcissist and paranoia much?. I’ve called you out a couple of times on this site for what I viewed to be out of line comments. You call a female a “whore” and I’m going to call you out on it. You in partcular are pretty much the mirror image of many of the buffoons who post over on Kos.
Jim M., are your referring to anything in particular that has been posted on this site, or is your comment some sort of general, boiler plate diatribe against “liberals”? I’ve seen the mirror image rant against conservatives many times over at Kos.
Don’t be silly. In order to be a “mirror image” of Kos, the obscenities would have to flow fast and furious not to mention liberals would have to be banned if they disagree with anything,
Get a sense of proportion or keep your mouth shut.
RM
Buck I, you said it better than I did.
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Love to prove your point?
Jim
You said it better than I could have.
As for un-american, you will find only the trolls here who have BDS or post their vile comments about out fighting men and women.
And, dakine, if I choose to give a pet name to a “woman” who is screwing us while we pay her – oh well. You had a problem with Pillosi GaWhore but when I call another vile woman a witch, you throw in. So, what DO you have a problem with? I am on topic and get called out ny you and you do not make a comment about the topic. Now, this thread is down a road it was not ever meant to go and here I am again being called names by you.
GOD Bless our troops and to hell with the surrendercrats and the MSM that will not give them their due.
“Witch” is a far cry from “whore”. BTW, as I said before, I agree that Pelosi is an ineffective SOH and I disagree with her on many, if not most, issues. However, I’ve never really read or heard anything particularly negative about her as a human being on a personal level. You imply that she is “vile”. Where does that come from? Is every politician, pundit, etc. who disagrees with you vile? I suggested the following link for your buddy aj, and I think you’d find it enlightening as well (realizing that it’s hard for guys like you to get out of your comfort zone in terms of the kinds of things you expose yourself to):
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
Check it out…I think you’ll recognize yourself.
I’d like to say that just because I’m more conservative doesn’t mean I get my marching orders from Rush. I do actually think for myself and don’t just repeat what others say or think what I’m told to think. Just because some of you call yourself moderate doesn’t mean you are above any other outside influences.
As far as the movie “Redacted” goes, I
thinkknow it will be harmful to our troops overseas. I know I’m speaking selfishly now, but I have more interest in this than most people because my husband will be leaving tomorrow. Our friends are there or are going and they have enough to worry about. Does anyone remember what happened as a result of reports of a Quran being flushed down the toilet at Gitmo? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44472Now we have a movie which tells the story of something horrible happening (no one denies that), but will ultimately be used as propaganda. I am sure you all know of many more instances than this. These evil people who want to kill us actually call for the deaths of others who draw cartoons or make movies critical of their way of life. How many of you see postive stories about what’s going in Iraq or Afghanistan on your local news or any of the other MSM outlets? I’m personally happy to hear more than the negative.
No thanks on the link, again. but I will buy 5 copies of
“God and Country” and pass them out at Christmas for going off topic. I suggest you do the same dakine. have a nice day.
#43
Hyperbole, anecdotal evidence and strawman arguments do not a “patriot” make.
Your post is quite a lot of hot air (haha).
Again, responsible probing journalism examines every aspect of a story, giving a full three dimensional view. The good and unfortunately, the bad.
You can’t leave out the bad news simply because your bloated sense of patriotism deems it so. It doesn’t work that way.
See #43 above for my comment criticizing Jim.
You are missing the point of the film – and of criticism directed against you. I don’hear you taking “Redacted” to task for not “giving a three dimensional view” of the troops. If it did, then there would be a more positive spin to the film. The film above is not meant to be balanced but to celebrate the troops – just like redacted was created to do nothing except raise questions about our troops and the war.
You are making a dumb point in order to criticize any good news whatsoever about our troops and the mission. Recognize the film for what it is and judge it on those merits – not some fake “balance” you want to see enacted.
RM
I am not going to bother to waste my time citing specific examples. Frankly, it would do no good. If you are that immersed in your own loathing of this country not to recognize your own reflection, you are not about to listen to anything I have to say.
How many of the self professed liberals or faux moderates who post here have served their country? In ANY manner? You revel in the freedoms bought and paid for by partiots who are willing to lay down their lives to preserve our liberties and our way of life. You not only revel in them, you use them to condemn the very people without whom you would not have a free voice. I’d say think about it, but I realize rational thought is beyond your reach.
Redacted will kill American soldiers. Make no mistake about it. As for fil makers being free to point out the bad, I don’t they are free to blow one incident out of proportion to leave the world with the impression this is a daily occurrence. That is wrong. It is grossly irresponsible. And it is indeed unpartiotic.
To those who believe it is OK for Hollywood to release a film that is going to result in the deaths of American soldiers, you are indeed devoid of any love for this country and are among those that cannot wait to see the day it is destroyed.
Watershed
I have yet to see either you or dakine put forth any logoical argument to back up anything you have to say here. Instead, you lie in wait and attempt to ridicule and tear down the thoughts of others. Or, to attempt to claim some moral high ground in the abyss in which you dwell.
Faux intellectualism is easily identified here, as are your attempts to paint your anti American ways under the guise of “patriotism”. You can keep folling yourselves, but your not fooling anyone else here.
I think as followers of Christ we must reject militarism where it rears its ugly head. We will take criticism from people, but it will be the same inaccurate narrative, that by rejecting militarism and praising Him, that we are unpatriotic or we hate our country.
That is our critics’ right.
What country would Jesus occupy under false pretenses?
You just earned yourself a banning.
I was willing to believe your Christianity until this comment. You’re a troll in a clever disguise.
RM
Southernboy,
And you have reared your ugly head once too often here. Take comfort in the knowledge that your head would be among the first severed if our enemies had their way.
DaKine, Sausage, Southernboy, bucki,etc. you’re all a bunch of self righteous know it alls who wouldn’t do anything tangible to support your country. You wouldn’t wear the uniform of our military, our police officers, or our firefighters because you don’t have it what it takes. yet, you are happy to reap the benefits bought and paid for by someone elses blood. You just don’t get it and you never will
You whine, complain, and defend that which can not be defended. You criticize those that do the hard work so that you can sit at your computer and spout your vile comments and NO you do not know everything.
I have purchased multiple copies of this film and intend to make them available to others who can’t afford them. I have also adopted a Marine serving in the War on Terror. I challenge each of you to do the same.
Go to Soldeirs’ Angels, adopt your soldiers and let us know if you accept our challenge.
Southernboy,
You do not speak for Christ and I don’t think you have any kind of relationship at all with Him.
Any yes, your head will be one of the first severed if you and your ilk have their way.
#54
I say my country’s 1st amendment to the Constitution is my logic and my backup. And, unfortunately for you, you live in MY country.
I also say the founding fathers had people like you in mind when they wrote it. They were quite fearful of hindering and squashing information, for any reason.
You would do so, simply because you don’t like what the news is, or that the news doesn’t jibe with your absurd sense of pariotism.
But you live HERE, in America. And thank God for that.
Jim M. and trinity, thank you for making my point (like looking at Kos posts in a mirror)…nicely done. Navy BTW, you sanctimonious blowhards.
Good suggestion…I’ll look into it, but in the meantime I’ll continue to intimately support my brother-in-law and my oldest son’s best friend (like another son to me) who are both serving in harms way.
BTW, I never voiced any support for the movie Redacted. Won’t see it. Free speech comes with a price, and those of you who feel strongly about this movie are fortunate to live in a country where you can attempt to make Cuban pay such a price.
Christ said the peacemakers would be misunderstood.
I forgive all those who claim I support the terrorists because I pray for peace.
Forgive them, Father.
Watershed
You really are a moron.
Freedom of speech does not extend to yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. But it does do a good job at times of protecting cowards like you in allowing you to spew hate for this country.
I doubt the founding fathers would have had much tolerance for your type of speech. Ever read the section in the Constitution on treason? Free speech is great so long as it does not go down the path of advocating the demise of the US or providing aid and comfort to our enemies.
And no one is advocating “squashing” the dissemination of information. The issue here is creating something based on a half truth that is likely to cost American lives.
By the way, it is not YOUR country. Just what have you done to make it yours? As far as I can see, you are are merely a parasite that continues to feed off of the sacrifices of others while attempting to infect its host with your bile.
I’m not afraid of death, because it is not the end.
Dakine,
Your pompous and self righteous attitude is really amusing. The fact that you believe you are morally and intellectually superior to others here oozes from your posts.
You say you are a lawyer, but I have seen nothing that would come close to qualifying as logical thought. Flinging judgements out here and there is not a thought process – it is a bastion for those who have no thoughts.
Of course, with your clear passive aggressive personality, we should expect no better.
How about constructing a logical response using facts and logic to build your argument? For once.
We are not anything like Kos or you for that matter. You have your voice on this board and I have mine.
Just as you speak your mind, I will speak mine. The only difference between us is that I and many others on this board have fought for our country while you just sit around and complain.
By the way, If you can’t stand behind our troops please feel free to stand in front of them.
You’re projecting Jim.
Nice to see Jim M., Trinitytim, AJ and Soap holding down the fort.
This movie is indeed a great big breath of fresh air.
Michelle – shame on you for posting this without mentioning the horrors committed by our troops. And you call yourself a journalist… sarc off.
Since I get all of my ideas from Rush. I’ve gotta run, not sure what next to write…
#63
Your penchant for personal insults really do expose your level of communication. A shame.
Anyway…
The founding fathers LIVED AND DIED for my type of free speech. Again, thank God for that. They would hardly have thought that freedom of the press, or disseminating constructive criticism of a war or the administration waging it was “treason”. That’s your conflation.
When you start your own country, you can have everyone say only the things you want them to say. Till then, you have to deal with that pesky Constitution like the rest of us.
I’m afraid your goo-goo eyed notion of what our Founders considered “free speeech” is misplaced. Libel laws were much stricter back then as well as the idea that the peasants should be seen and not heard. And I’m sure you’ve heard of the Alien and Sedition Act?
Like everything else in America, free speech evolved into what it is today. And btw – no one is trying to stifle you or anyone who thinks like you.. You’re only raising the strawman of free speech because you are losing the argument on its merits.
Jim is out of line accusing you of “treason.” But you are out of line trying to play martyr.
RM
Hey Watershed,
Answer Jim’s question. What have you done for our country and please be specific?
Please explain in what way is Redacted constructive criticism?
You can’t even bring yourself to say that this movie may bring harm to troops who are already in harm’s way. You can’t even agree on that. Instead you suggest that someone is trying to suppress free speech.
Responsibility isn’t something that is grasped easily. It is taught…perhaps someone dropped the ball.
But it’s a very basic concept really, just because you can doesn’t mean you should. And you most certainly wouldn’t add insult to injury if you cared about the outcome.
You aren’t forced to comply. You are ask to think about those freedoms. There is some responsibility in that, whether you like it or not.
#71
Yes!!!!!
Watershed, we’re still waiting???
Once again I want to congratulate soap on his new
bubble.
Some of these comments sound like there are people
here that could use a timeout.
We all know that not everyone in the military is honest
and upright and that bad things do happen.
However, we also know that our American military for
the most part is head and shoulders and even rib cages above any other military on this planet. The only
ones that don’t get this are the liberals because they have bought the anything and anybody from
or about America is bad propaganda.
This is what is being used to try to get a certain
party elected pres. First, the MSM and pol consultants know that liberals love to gather in
clumps and all do the very same thing at the very same time! They also know that liberals believe in
osmosis. That just because she was married to a
pres that all of his experience rubbed off on her or
was absorbed by her! Hence, this vaaaaaast body of
experience she keeps yellng about! I read a really
good analogy today..if the CEO of a Fortune 500
Company either died or retired, would his wife be
a suitable replacement for him simply because she
was married to him? Uh, NO!
I think what we have in these comments today are
some people that came onto the site, posted their
comments and thought that we would be overwhelmed by the sheer brilliance of what they’re
saying and immediately convert. Ain’t no way.
trinity (re your comment #66), put down the donut, focus and try a little reading comprehension.
One more thought regarding your last comment Jim M.: the next original and/or interesting comment you make on here will be the first. Active/aggressive enough for you?
30, sorry for the oversight. I’m sure you get some of your stuff from Hannity as well.
Your accusing people of getting their “stuff” from Hannity is a lie. You know it’s not true, hence a falsehood.
Liars are banned on this site. Fair warning.
RM
I’m with trinitytim Watershed; put up or shut up.
I can read just fine and by the way I haven’t had a donut in more than 30 years, but thanks for your concern.
I will sleep soundly tonight knowing that you have my back. Ha! Ha! Ha!
wow, it’s getting ugly around here. Dakine Just wondering why you called me a blowhard, considering your problems with name-calling. I didn’t address you by the way(BTW). I never said anyone, especially you, supported the movie “Redacted”, so I can assume you weren’t writing about me. I just have a problem with the movie and the people producing, directing, etc.
Well, it looks like the trolls have left the area.
Figures. As soon as they get pinned down by asking for specifics, they turn off their computers and hide. Typical
Gee, I missed all the fun.
navywife91, I apologize if you thought I was directing my comment in your direction. Not at all. Your comments are rational and civil. trinity and Jim, on the other hand, are sanctimonious blowhards.
Well Dakine maybe you’re the one who needs to put down the donut and focus. Appears you can’t even remember what you wrote. Let me refresh your memory. See above quote.
And when you look in your Kos mirror what will you see? A sanctimonious blowhard perhaps. Seems likely.
Southernboy is gone.
His dripping sacracsm about religion is hateful and is deliberately meant to mock people of faith.
Buh-bye.
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Good luck tomorrow Rick, just not to much.
Everyone who has been throwing rotten tomatoes at one another in this post might want to go back and read some of the comments I’ve left underneath their own comment.
To the lefties: You are hypersensitive and misrepresenting much of the criticism directed against you.
To the righties: You crossed the line of decorum on occasion by questioning someone’s patriotism where there was no evidence to do so.
Let’s stop the personal attacks and try and keep it civil.
RM
At first I thought S-Boy was more intertaining than lgm. He got old fast and I am not sorry to say I hate to see him go. P.S. to all who think all I do is name call. It was suggested I call him SoB and I did not (even though he mocked me with every word).
Buh-bye.
I think I too will buy at least 5 copies of this movie. The first copy I will send to Pelosi – LOL.
AMEN Rick. Guilty at times. Working on it!
appreciate the correction Dakine
trinitytim Thanks for the help in clarifying that comment.
“Faux News Alert”
Candlelight Vigil
Due to time constraints tonights Candle light Vigil for Southernboy has been “CANCELLED” due to lack of interest and there is football on TV.
film at 11:00
Way Overdue!
Remember This? http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/jfk-inaug.htm
As I recall JFK was a Democrat. Reid, Pelosi, Durbin and his demented brother Drunk Teddy are just Punks and Pretenders. Silly Ba$tards still accept a substitute and keep them in office.
Amazing! Bad on Us!
Okay Rick, you’re right. I did get a little carried away.
I apologize to anyone if I questioned your patriotism without evidence. With more than 25+ years of law enforcement experience I should not have allowed those comments to get to me. I should have known better.
I did enjoy the spirited debate though and I look forward to future debates on this issue. Fair warning though, I will ask for specifics to back up your assertions and positions.
Rick,
Didn’t mean to stir things up to that extent, but I do believe it is fair to question people’s partiotism when they openly display a disdain for this country and openly support movies like “Redacted” as an exercise in free speech.
They are the same people who have no idea of what goes on in our military, and jump on one crime committed by a force of 160,000 troops over a 5 year period.
For those that care to listen, there is a reason behind the military’s zero tolerance when it comes to crimes in a war zone.
Having spent 20 years as an Army officer, I can tell you that there is no place anywhere in the chain of command for civilian crimes. It is not only contrary to the mission of winning the support of the people, it is a symptom of a clear breakdown in discipline. Unless you have strict discipline, you command structure will fall apart. Discipline is critical to the mission.
In ANY criminal act involving the civilian population, justice is open and swift. The criminals are brought to justice by a jury not of their peers, but by a panel of officers who fully recognize the importance of command and discipline. “Breaks” are not given, “slack” is not cut. And the troops know that.
When it is necessary to meet out a sentence, every troop in theater is well aware of the sentence. And for sentences over 1 year, the term is served in Leavenworth. The “Disciplinary Barracks” is no county jail nor country club prison. Prisoners are still in the service, and must follow orders just as if they were in a line unit. Everyone works. The labor is hard. And infractions are treated swiftly and without heart.
Although still in the military, all pay and rank are forfeited. It is not a desirable existence.
Like I said, the military hides nothing when it comes to prosecuting criminals. It is in the best interest of the armed services that all know about the incident.
How many cities of 160,000 people can compare their crime rate to our military’s in theater? None. We have the best armed forces in the world, and I would venture to say that our current soldiers, saliors and marines are the cream of the crop.
So when I see people condoning things like “Redacted” under the guise of freedom of speech, I will not sit idly by and allow them to go unchallenged. It is not freedom of speech, it is the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater, for it will surely serve as the rationale to kill some of our brave men and women. The reports about Abu Gharib launched many an IED attack against our troops. The first reports of the rape of the Iraqi girl served as the rallying cry to kill many of our troops. And the outright seditious tenor of Redacted will do likewise.
The First Amendment is not without its limits. And my point in raising the treason issue was not to accuse anyone here of commiting that act, but to illustrate that even in the Constitution itself, there is a limit on free speech. Interesting that the only crime actually set forth in the Constitution itself is treason.
I do not suffer fools lightly, especially when they swarm, buzzing the same tired emotional rantings one finds on the far left sites.
trinitytim I think these posts were very interesting, to say the least, but I think everyone definitely needs to watch some football and start over tomorrow.
Okay. To put this to sleep hopefully.
Dakine: Not one time in 12 comments (24, 35, 36, 39, 40, 45, 46, 49, 61, 67, 74, and 80) did you make a single comment ON TOPIC.
Of the 12, 10 times you made personal sarcastic remarks or just flat out called someone a name (24, 35, 39, 40, 45, 49, 61, 67, 74, and 80).
Twice you called people “blowhards”
So, now Rick has warned you about telling lies. I am petitioning everyone to treat you as Southernboy and ignore you until you can say something ON TOPIC and add to the thread.
Sorry, Rick. Venting is over with him and I promise I will not do it again.
Go Bears – if that helps – LOL!
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Suck up.
I’m with you on that navywife91.
Jim, I agree with you and have all night but I do think we let them get under our skin a little too much. I mean, after all, we should have anticipated their positions and given them enough rope to hang themselves which one did and another almost did.
Great job Jim.
OT
I’m done for tonight.
Go Clemson
See AJ, I’m not a suck up.
OT off.
Goodnight all. Thanks for the fun evening.
Southernboy is gone.
Oh Happy Day! Oh happy day!!
Luv ya AJ but, I know where my bread is buttered!
Funny isn’t it how the 1st Amendment seems to only
work for Liberals. When we practice it, it is called anything but Freedom of Speech.
God and Country will probably be called propaganda.
Personally, I think antiMilitary movies are propaganda,
myself.
And, Amen to that about our Military! No one else on
this little globe has a Military like that of the Good Old
USA!
Amen TX. All give some, some give all and some just will not SHUT UP!