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		<title>By: Political Bloviation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michelle Malkin distorts Schiavo case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Bloviation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michelle Malkin distorts Schiavo case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/19/memo-to-abc-nytimes-terri-schiavo-was-not-brain-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-177520</link>
		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No i did not contradict myself.  If you go back to the start.  try actually knowing what the case is about.  There is no contradiction.  She was already on a feeding tube.  the Republicans were attempting to maintain the status quo...i.e. leaving the tube in.  it was the husband that was attempting to remove it.  Had he not interviened, she would more than likely still be alive today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No i did not contradict myself.  If you go back to the start.  try actually knowing what the case is about.  There is no contradiction.  She was already on a feeding tube.  the Republicans were attempting to maintain the status quo&#8230;i.e. leaving the tube in.  it was the husband that was attempting to remove it.  Had he not interviened, she would more than likely still be alive today.</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In this case, the Left is making the case that the Government was stepping in to prolong her life. On the contrary, it was the Government that had stepped in, in the guise of the courts, of the lawyers and such, to get her feeding tube pulled and allow her to painfully starve to death without her being allowed or able to beg for her life or to tell abyone of the horrors she was under going for those two weeks......

It was the Republicans that were attempting to allow things to remain the way they were.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You just contradicted yourself here...It is true that Republican members of State and Federal government did go to court to prolong her life(stop the State from removing the tube)..after the husband &quot;won the right&quot;, in court, to have the tube removed so that she would die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In this case, the Left is making the case that the Government was stepping in to prolong her life. On the contrary, it was the Government that had stepped in, in the guise of the courts, of the lawyers and such, to get her feeding tube pulled and allow her to painfully starve to death without her being allowed or able to beg for her life or to tell abyone of the horrors she was under going for those two weeks&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>It was the Republicans that were attempting to allow things to remain the way they were.  </p></blockquote>
<p>You just contradicted yourself here&#8230;It is true that Republican members of State and Federal government did go to court to prolong her life(stop the State from removing the tube)..after the husband &#8220;won the right&#8221;, in court, to have the tube removed so that she would die.</p>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by &quot;you&quot; I meant &quot;You&quot; as in everyone, not &quot;you&quot; the person who typed the quote.  I was not singling any one person in this reply out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by &#8220;you&#8221; I meant &#8220;You&#8221; as in everyone, not &#8220;you&#8221; the person who typed the quote.  I was not singling any one person in this reply out.</p>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/19/memo-to-abc-nytimes-terri-schiavo-was-not-brain-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-177233</link>
		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The moment the Gov’t starts to step in and say “you can’t do that”, they are half a step away from “you must do that”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The interesting part of this comment is that Government regulations, the ones that keep people safe as in drugs and food, are ways in which the Government tells us what we can and can&#039;t do.  So exactly where is it that you draw the line?  Is it all or nothing?  Or are there only certain points in which the Government is permitted to infringe on your or anyone else&#039;s life?  Personnally, if it means prolonging someone&#039;s life vs. taking it away, I go for prolonging it.  In this case, the Left is making the case that the Government was stepping in to prolong her life.  On the contrary, it was the Government that had stepped in, in the guise of the courts, of the lawyers and such, to get her feeding tube pulled and allow her to painfully starve to death without her being allowed or able to beg for her life or to tell abyone of the horrors she was under going for those two weeks.  It was the Republicans that were attempting to allow things to remain the way they were.  Don&#039;t let those pesky little facts get in the way though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The moment the Gov’t starts to step in and say “you can’t do that”, they are half a step away from “you must do that”.</p></blockquote>
<p>The interesting part of this comment is that Government regulations, the ones that keep people safe as in drugs and food, are ways in which the Government tells us what we can and can&#8217;t do.  So exactly where is it that you draw the line?  Is it all or nothing?  Or are there only certain points in which the Government is permitted to infringe on your or anyone else&#8217;s life?  Personnally, if it means prolonging someone&#8217;s life vs. taking it away, I go for prolonging it.  In this case, the Left is making the case that the Government was stepping in to prolong her life.  On the contrary, it was the Government that had stepped in, in the guise of the courts, of the lawyers and such, to get her feeding tube pulled and allow her to painfully starve to death without her being allowed or able to beg for her life or to tell abyone of the horrors she was under going for those two weeks.  It was the Republicans that were attempting to allow things to remain the way they were.  Don&#8217;t let those pesky little facts get in the way though.</p>
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		<title>By: swj719AWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>swj719AWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The right to life is in our Nation’s Birth Certificate. Any candidate that has abandon that birth certificate in favor of a philandering husband, will not get my vote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Government can kindly stay out of the following places:

My Book Case
My Movie Collection
My Video Game Collection
My Thoughts
My Home
My Hospital Room

The moment the Gov&#039;t starts to step in and say &quot;you can&#039;t do that&quot;, they are half a step away from &quot;you must do that&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The right to life is in our Nation’s Birth Certificate. Any candidate that has abandon that birth certificate in favor of a philandering husband, will not get my vote.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Government can kindly stay out of the following places:</p>
<p>My Book Case<br />
My Movie Collection<br />
My Video Game Collection<br />
My Thoughts<br />
My Home<br />
My Hospital Room</p>
<p>The moment the Gov&#8217;t starts to step in and say &#8220;you can&#8217;t do that&#8221;, they are half a step away from &#8220;you must do that&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we, regardless of our opinion here, take a little time to appreciate the awesomeness that is comment #112. Someone just built him/herself the biggest straw man imaginable.

Kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we, regardless of our opinion here, take a little time to appreciate the awesomeness that is comment #112. Someone just built him/herself the biggest straw man imaginable.</p>
<p>Kudos!</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coorect my sentence to read, would not have prolonged her life..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coorect my sentence to read, would not have prolonged her life..</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Again, feeding tube is not life support.

I am sorry for your loss as well. I am willing to bet that it did not take over two weeks either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She had to be fed via the tube becasue she could not swallow, so yes, it was a form of life support...Based on what I read in the autopsy, she could have handled sponged water in her mouth, but obviously not a cup of water, and I really don&#039;t think that giving her the water would have prolonged her life any..they took the tube as it was.  As was said earlier, they kill death row inmates with more kindness.

As to my Mom:  All legal paperwork was in place, with my Mother&#039;s stated wishes, which the doctors had in hand,  so there was no question that it was the right decision.  It was a heart breaking decision, but the right decision.

That&#039;s what we all should be dicussing.  I don&#039;t care how old you are, everyone over the age of 18 should have legal papers drawn up, stating their death/dying wishes, with a medical power of attorney given to a trusted person.

I would be curious to see how many people that responded to this post, actually have their own wishes legally written drawn up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Again, feeding tube is not life support.</p>
<p>I am sorry for your loss as well. I am willing to bet that it did not take over two weeks either.</p></blockquote>
<p>She had to be fed via the tube becasue she could not swallow, so yes, it was a form of life support&#8230;Based on what I read in the autopsy, she could have handled sponged water in her mouth, but obviously not a cup of water, and I really don&#8217;t think that giving her the water would have prolonged her life any..they took the tube as it was.  As was said earlier, they kill death row inmates with more kindness.</p>
<p>As to my Mom:  All legal paperwork was in place, with my Mother&#8217;s stated wishes, which the doctors had in hand,  so there was no question that it was the right decision.  It was a heart breaking decision, but the right decision.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what we all should be dicussing.  I don&#8217;t care how old you are, everyone over the age of 18 should have legal papers drawn up, stating their death/dying wishes, with a medical power of attorney given to a trusted person.</p>
<p>I would be curious to see how many people that responded to this post, actually have their own wishes legally written drawn up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People having regular surgery, having emergency procedures, being admitted into the ED and other routine medical issues in the hospital receive feeding tubes.  they are not &quot;extraordinary&quot; measures.  They are used on a regular basis in hospitals, convalescant homes, retirement facilities etc.  they are for people that either cannot or will not eat.  they are even used to feed those happy Freedom Fighters who are rebelling against the heinous treatment they get at GitMo such as not agreeing to what is on the menu, someone touching their koran, having a toilet facing East and other things that only became issues in prison and thus decided to go on hunger strikes.  their hunger strikes then lead to getting feeding tubes.  Again, they are routing medical apparatus, used to give patients such things as Ensure and other &quot;meals&quot; to make sure they have enough vitamins, minerals and calories to live.  It is the humane thing to do.  Many retarted individuals also have them.  Is it the Liberal contention that each and every individual who is incapable of feeding themselves, chewing or swallowing be removed from their feeding tubes?  Because to me, that appears to be the argument that is being made.

Well, there was another group that felt the exact smae way.  Nazi Germany had a similar policy towards the infirm.  Remove the tubes, remove the weak from society.  After all, they have and serve no purpose in the big picture.  Terri was worth nothing, and thus, none of these other people are worth anything either.

Where is it exactly do you people draw your distinction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People having regular surgery, having emergency procedures, being admitted into the ED and other routine medical issues in the hospital receive feeding tubes.  they are not &#8220;extraordinary&#8221; measures.  They are used on a regular basis in hospitals, convalescant homes, retirement facilities etc.  they are for people that either cannot or will not eat.  they are even used to feed those happy Freedom Fighters who are rebelling against the heinous treatment they get at GitMo such as not agreeing to what is on the menu, someone touching their koran, having a toilet facing East and other things that only became issues in prison and thus decided to go on hunger strikes.  their hunger strikes then lead to getting feeding tubes.  Again, they are routing medical apparatus, used to give patients such things as Ensure and other &#8220;meals&#8221; to make sure they have enough vitamins, minerals and calories to live.  It is the humane thing to do.  Many retarted individuals also have them.  Is it the Liberal contention that each and every individual who is incapable of feeding themselves, chewing or swallowing be removed from their feeding tubes?  Because to me, that appears to be the argument that is being made.</p>
<p>Well, there was another group that felt the exact smae way.  Nazi Germany had a similar policy towards the infirm.  Remove the tubes, remove the weak from society.  After all, they have and serve no purpose in the big picture.  Terri was worth nothing, and thus, none of these other people are worth anything either.</p>
<p>Where is it exactly do you people draw your distinction?</p>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Originally he said that she wanted to live.  It was not until years later, after spending time and money on rehab, doctors and treatments and getting a huge payout that he supposedly remembered this conversation he had with her where she allegedly said she didn&#039;t want to be on life support.  Again, feeding tube is not life support.

I am sorry for your loss as well.  I am willing to bet that it did not take over two weeks either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally he said that she wanted to live.  It was not until years later, after spending time and money on rehab, doctors and treatments and getting a huge payout that he supposedly remembered this conversation he had with her where she allegedly said she didn&#8217;t want to be on life support.  Again, feeding tube is not life support.</p>
<p>I am sorry for your loss as well.  I am willing to bet that it did not take over two weeks either.</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On November 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pm, RetFireman said:&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I am sorry for your loss.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Those of you who are claiming that Terri had a dignified death are nothing short of heartless and callous. There was no harm in allowing her to live. She hurt nothing but someone who wasn’t man enough to get a divorce and go without the money he felt he deserved&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was her wish to not live the way she did..And isn&#039;t part of the fued really just about the money?  That&#039;s what really started the ball rolling on this fight?  Neither side wanted it for Terri, it was each side thinking they should get the money..

P.S.

I just removed my Mom&#039;s tubes on April 25th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On November 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pm, RetFireman said:</p></blockquote>
<p>I am sorry for your loss.</p>
<blockquote><p>Those of you who are claiming that Terri had a dignified death are nothing short of heartless and callous. There was no harm in allowing her to live. She hurt nothing but someone who wasn’t man enough to get a divorce and go without the money he felt he deserved</p></blockquote>
<p>It was her wish to not live the way she did..And isn&#8217;t part of the fued really just about the money?  That&#8217;s what really started the ball rolling on this fight?  Neither side wanted it for Terri, it was each side thinking they should get the money..</p>
<p>P.S.</p>
<p>I just removed my Mom&#8217;s tubes on April 25th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#65On November 20th, 2007 at 10:34 am, englishqueen01 said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Thacker Agency - I would suggest giving her the ordinary medical treatment she deserves. Food and water are ordinary, life sustaining measures. There is no room for interpretation there - we all need food and water to live. I never said to keep her on life support, artificial machines, etc. Terri’s body was able to breathe and function inspite of her condition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The feeding tube?  Without that feeding tube, she couldn&#039;t eat on her own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#65On November 20th, 2007 at 10:34 am, englishqueen01 said: </p>
<blockquote><p>Thacker Agency &#8211; I would suggest giving her the ordinary medical treatment she deserves. Food and water are ordinary, life sustaining measures. There is no room for interpretation there &#8211; we all need food and water to live. I never said to keep her on life support, artificial machines, etc. Terri’s body was able to breathe and function inspite of her condition.</p></blockquote>
<p>The feeding tube?  Without that feeding tube, she couldn&#8217;t eat on her own.</p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not be surprized if the liberals and demos would favor Post Birth Abortion like say up to two years after a baby is born. If the mother decides the baby is too much trouble or if she wants to further her career she could post abort it and that would free her for more choices in life. This is the direction I see society is heading and I am sorry if I have offended some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not be surprized if the liberals and demos would favor Post Birth Abortion like say up to two years after a baby is born. If the mother decides the baby is too much trouble or if she wants to further her career she could post abort it and that would free her for more choices in life. This is the direction I see society is heading and I am sorry if I have offended some.</p>
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