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	<title>Comments on: War on Christmas showdown in Fort Collins</title>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-180514</link>
		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I agree completely. You never really can tell what is going to get insane culture warriors all riled up. Here is another example of the foolishness, RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: almeehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>almeehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and following the meeting the Task Force was taken out behind the woodshed and soundly thrashed.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and following the meeting the Task Force was taken out behind the woodshed and soundly thrashed.  <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177922</link>
		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The libs, stalinists, and demos who are offended by Christmas trees, santa clause,and other Non-Christian symbols of Christmas must be really offended at What Christ taught. He said He is the only way to heaven and that the world will hate Christians because they first hated Him. Its time to realize that the war on Christmas comes from what Christ teaches on repentance and that He is the only way to Heaven. As Rusty said we are fighting principalities of the war that are not seen and not flesh and blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The libs, stalinists, and demos who are offended by Christmas trees, santa clause,and other Non-Christian symbols of Christmas must be really offended at What Christ taught. He said He is the only way to heaven and that the world will hate Christians because they first hated Him. Its time to realize that the war on Christmas comes from what Christ teaches on repentance and that He is the only way to Heaven. As Rusty said we are fighting principalities of the war that are not seen and not flesh and blood.</p>
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		<title>By: elpresidente</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177757</link>
		<dc:creator>elpresidente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://slapstickpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/11/fort-collins-chooses-hybrid-holiday.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Audio of the citizens&#039; commentary&lt;/a&gt; at last night&#039;s City Council meeting is loaded (at last!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://slapstickpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/11/fort-collins-chooses-hybrid-holiday.html" rel="nofollow">Audio of the citizens&#8217; commentary</a> at last night&#8217;s City Council meeting is loaded (at last!).</p>
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		<title>By: Slapstick Politics</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177733</link>
		<dc:creator>Slapstick Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fort Collins Chooses Hybrid Holiday Policy...&lt;/strong&gt;

Avoiding another battle in the &quot;war on Christmas&quot;, the Fort Collins City Council ultimately decided on adopting the third, hybrid option recommended by the &quot;holiday display task force&quot;--keep traditions by retaining current policy, while adding a ne...</description>
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<p>Avoiding another battle in the &#8220;war on Christmas&#8221;, the Fort Collins City Council ultimately decided on adopting the third, hybrid option recommended by the &#8220;holiday display task force&#8221;&#8211;keep traditions by retaining current policy, while adding a ne&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slapstick Politics</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177731</link>
		<dc:creator>Slapstick Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hybrid Vehicle Survey...&lt;/strong&gt;

Once again, the educational activities of yours truly demand the participation of the dedicated readers of this blog to participate in a voluntary survey for my Marketing Research class.  The subject is hybrid vehicles:...</description>
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<p>Once again, the educational activities of yours truly demand the participation of the dedicated readers of this blog to participate in a voluntary survey for my Marketing Research class.  The subject is hybrid vehicles:&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vickisoup</title>
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		<dc:creator>vickisoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;meatpieandtatters said: 
I live here in the People’s Republic of Boulder, where Kerry/Edwards’ bumper stickers adorn most of the hulking SUVs and practically every Subaru.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I live in the People&#039;s Republic of Santa Cruz, and feel your pain, but I did see something funny yesterday. A car had four bumper stickers stuck on the liftgate of a van: &quot;Obama &#039;08&quot;, &quot;Hillary &#039;08&quot; and the third read, &quot;Edwards, &#039;08&quot;. The fourth? &quot;Proud to be a Democrat&quot;. I cracked up! This silly voter can&#039;t be decisive about anything, just like their candidates! 
Happy Thanksgiving, Everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>meatpieandtatters said:<br />
I live here in the People’s Republic of Boulder, where Kerry/Edwards’ bumper stickers adorn most of the hulking SUVs and practically every Subaru.
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<p>I live in the People&#8217;s Republic of Santa Cruz, and feel your pain, but I did see something funny yesterday. A car had four bumper stickers stuck on the liftgate of a van: &#8220;Obama &#8217;08&#8243;, &#8220;Hillary &#8217;08&#8243; and the third read, &#8220;Edwards, &#8217;08&#8243;. The fourth? &#8220;Proud to be a Democrat&#8221;. I cracked up! This silly voter can&#8217;t be decisive about anything, just like their candidates!<br />
Happy Thanksgiving, Everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: and Im all out of bubblegum</title>
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		<dc:creator>and Im all out of bubblegum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28 - &lt;em&gt;&quot;..why aren&#039;t you at your post?  Do you copy?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, with the whole Festivus reference here, I just had to.

Happy Thanksgiving, all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 &#8211; <em>&#8220;..why aren&#8217;t you at your post?  Do you copy?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sorry, with the whole Festivus reference here, I just had to.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving, all!</p>
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		<title>By: iowavette</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177638</link>
		<dc:creator>iowavette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unvarnished and selfish ignorance demonstrated by these miscreants is beyond description.  I&#039;m an agnostic but only because I was born without a spiritual bone in my body.  Having said that, anyone who has studied the New Testament with a trained theologian can only be astonished by the beauty and wisdom of the text.  Furthermore, a thinking individual cannot levy criticism against Christianity knowing so many intellectuals who also believe, e. g., G. F. Will, W. F. Buckley.  The MSM is complicit in debasing the character of one of the world&#039;s great and most long-standing institutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unvarnished and selfish ignorance demonstrated by these miscreants is beyond description.  I&#8217;m an agnostic but only because I was born without a spiritual bone in my body.  Having said that, anyone who has studied the New Testament with a trained theologian can only be astonished by the beauty and wisdom of the text.  Furthermore, a thinking individual cannot levy criticism against Christianity knowing so many intellectuals who also believe, e. g., G. F. Will, W. F. Buckley.  The MSM is complicit in debasing the character of one of the world&#8217;s great and most long-standing institutions.</p>
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		<title>By: huggybear</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177635</link>
		<dc:creator>huggybear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the [War on] Christmas season, perhaps more than any other time of year.  It&#039;s when all the drama queens come out and strut their stuff!  

CHRISTmas vs. Xmas - who will out-fierce who this year?  Sounds like Team CHRISTmas won this skirmish.  But the question remains - who will win the war?  Tune into Fox News tonight - and EVERY night until December 25 - for all the latest.  There may even be a book or 6 on the subject for you to buy!

PS - you know, we still have a giant Christmas tree with red and green lights, even in heathen/commie enclave San Francisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the [War on] Christmas season, perhaps more than any other time of year.  It&#8217;s when all the drama queens come out and strut their stuff!  </p>
<p>CHRISTmas vs. Xmas &#8211; who will out-fierce who this year?  Sounds like Team CHRISTmas won this skirmish.  But the question remains &#8211; who will win the war?  Tune into Fox News tonight &#8211; and EVERY night until December 25 &#8211; for all the latest.  There may even be a book or 6 on the subject for you to buy!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; you know, we still have a giant Christmas tree with red and green lights, even in heathen/commie enclave San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>By: dan708</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177502</link>
		<dc:creator>dan708</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wonder where people&#039;s priorities are when they waste so much energy attacking a cherished holiday like this. If the folks who try to neuter CHRISTmas would expend their energy on something useful (helping the hungry, joining the local CrimeWatch, etc), our society would be so much better off.
But no, &quot;COLORED LIGHTS ARE BAD!! THEY&#039;RE A SIGN OF OFFICIALLY SPONSORED RELIGION!!&quot; I&#039;m gonna puke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wonder where people&#8217;s priorities are when they waste so much energy attacking a cherished holiday like this. If the folks who try to neuter CHRISTmas would expend their energy on something useful (helping the hungry, joining the local CrimeWatch, etc), our society would be so much better off.<br />
But no, &#8220;COLORED LIGHTS ARE BAD!! THEY&#8217;RE A SIGN OF OFFICIALLY SPONSORED RELIGION!!&#8221; I&#8217;m gonna puke!</p>
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		<title>By: CommentGuy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/21/war-on-christmas-showdown-in-fort-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-177472</link>
		<dc:creator>CommentGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ryortho.com/NEWSSHORTS/volume2/issue34/10-20-06-NS-Fear.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is an example&lt;/a&gt; of her influence she tries to bring to the issues.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why? The senator says it’s because, as he wrote Leavitt, he’s “concerned that this appears to be a pattern of behavior by the Stryker Corp. that could increase healthcare costs throughout the region. Any time allegations of fraud or waste of taxpayer dollars are brought to my attention, I take them very seriously. Coloradoans need to be assured that same pattern of fraud that occurred in South Dakota did not occur in Colorado or any other state where Stryker Corp. is doing business with Medicare and Medicaid.”

What a public watchdog.

But wait.

Colorado Republicans used Allard’s letter to demand that Colorado Democrats return contributions from Pat Stryker, a “Fort Collins philanthropist.” Stryker is one of America’s wealthiest individuals. She and her brother Jon Stryker have contributed large sums to Democratic and progressive causes over the years. Bob Martinez, chairman of the state Republican Party, said the state Democratic Party received $21,000 from Stryker in the 2006 election cycle and should give the money back because it was “dirty money.”

According to a Kalamazoo Gazette story on October 15, the Colorado GOP claimed Patricia Stryker has a “controlling interest” in the company and her money is “dirty,”’ because they believe it’s tainted by the Medicare fraud case. A Michigan GOP press release said it was Jon Stryker who paid the Medicare fine. Republicans in both states are urging Democrats to give back Stryker family donations, claiming the two have operational ties to the company.

Jon and Patricia Stryker’s grandfather, Homer Stryker, founded Stryker Corp. in 1941. Neither works for Stryker Corp. nor serves on the company’s board of directors, a company spokesman was quoted as saying in the Gazette article.

Jon Stryker owns 7.8% of the company’s stock and Patricia Stryker owns 6.6%, according to the Stryker Corp. There also are shares in the Stryker Family Trust, in which Patricia and Jon Stryker are two of five trustees. A company spokesman said the heirs together own about a third of the company’s shares. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ryortho.com/NEWSSHORTS/volume2/issue34/10-20-06-NS-Fear.htm" rel="nofollow">Here is an example</a> of her influence she tries to bring to the issues.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why? The senator says it’s because, as he wrote Leavitt, he’s “concerned that this appears to be a pattern of behavior by the Stryker Corp. that could increase healthcare costs throughout the region. Any time allegations of fraud or waste of taxpayer dollars are brought to my attention, I take them very seriously. Coloradoans need to be assured that same pattern of fraud that occurred in South Dakota did not occur in Colorado or any other state where Stryker Corp. is doing business with Medicare and Medicaid.”</p>
<p>What a public watchdog.</p>
<p>But wait.</p>
<p>Colorado Republicans used Allard’s letter to demand that Colorado Democrats return contributions from Pat Stryker, a “Fort Collins philanthropist.” Stryker is one of America’s wealthiest individuals. She and her brother Jon Stryker have contributed large sums to Democratic and progressive causes over the years. Bob Martinez, chairman of the state Republican Party, said the state Democratic Party received $21,000 from Stryker in the 2006 election cycle and should give the money back because it was “dirty money.”</p>
<p>According to a Kalamazoo Gazette story on October 15, the Colorado GOP claimed Patricia Stryker has a “controlling interest” in the company and her money is “dirty,”’ because they believe it’s tainted by the Medicare fraud case. A Michigan GOP press release said it was Jon Stryker who paid the Medicare fine. Republicans in both states are urging Democrats to give back Stryker family donations, claiming the two have operational ties to the company.</p>
<p>Jon and Patricia Stryker’s grandfather, Homer Stryker, founded Stryker Corp. in 1941. Neither works for Stryker Corp. nor serves on the company’s board of directors, a company spokesman was quoted as saying in the Gazette article.</p>
<p>Jon Stryker owns 7.8% of the company’s stock and Patricia Stryker owns 6.6%, according to the Stryker Corp. There also are shares in the Stryker Family Trust, in which Patricia and Jon Stryker are two of five trustees. A company spokesman said the heirs together own about a third of the company’s shares. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: CommentGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CommentGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you deal with any issue in Colorado, not just this one, you have to look behind the scene a bit to see who is pushing the agenda to have their way with things.

In all things Colorado one of the prime movers is a very rich totally way off to the left lady by the name of Pat Stryker.

She is the sister of Jon Stryker the founder of AMWAY who tries to do his own funding a king making in Michigan where he is based.

They are hand in hand working on and funding a coordinated plan along with Soros funded groups to leverage and buy their agenda by flooding the area with one side of the issues and destroying any chance of fair and informed debate on any issue.

Look at most of their advertising efforts and position papers and you will see major efforts of pigs becoming prime cosmetic consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you deal with any issue in Colorado, not just this one, you have to look behind the scene a bit to see who is pushing the agenda to have their way with things.</p>
<p>In all things Colorado one of the prime movers is a very rich totally way off to the left lady by the name of Pat Stryker.</p>
<p>She is the sister of Jon Stryker the founder of AMWAY who tries to do his own funding a king making in Michigan where he is based.</p>
<p>They are hand in hand working on and funding a coordinated plan along with Soros funded groups to leverage and buy their agenda by flooding the area with one side of the issues and destroying any chance of fair and informed debate on any issue.</p>
<p>Look at most of their advertising efforts and position papers and you will see major efforts of pigs becoming prime cosmetic consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: TK-421</title>
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		<dc:creator>TK-421</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a Sec.... a &lt;em&gt;multicultural&lt;/em&gt; display for Christmas?... Must have slipped out in to the Twilight zone or something, last I remember The Greater Area where CO and MO are located had a low population with more cows than people, a single margin ethnic Minority Population and not too many Multi Culturalist. Then I remember that pledge that came from that region...  

What Happend? I mean massive ethnic move, a compleat 180 on politics in a couple of years, or what? If this is just a small number of single digited offended people its not there tradition, but on the other hand I see no one with a gun to there heads yelling Sing for Baby Jesus, allah, etc. They want no part of it or want a *insert religious Celebration here* Can&#039;t they just do it in the confines of thier homes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a Sec&#8230;. a <em>multicultural</em> display for Christmas?&#8230; Must have slipped out in to the Twilight zone or something, last I remember The Greater Area where CO and MO are located had a low population with more cows than people, a single margin ethnic Minority Population and not too many Multi Culturalist. Then I remember that pledge that came from that region&#8230;  </p>
<p>What Happend? I mean massive ethnic move, a compleat 180 on politics in a couple of years, or what? If this is just a small number of single digited offended people its not there tradition, but on the other hand I see no one with a gun to there heads yelling Sing for Baby Jesus, allah, etc. They want no part of it or want a *insert religious Celebration here* Can&#8217;t they just do it in the confines of thier homes?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnHolliday</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnHolliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#19 - Greyman - If a Christmas tree offends someone, don’t look at it. If someone doesn’t want to celebrate Christmas, fine, I expect to see them at work on Dec. 25th.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These are the same people that tell us that if we don&#039;t want our children to see all of the sex and violence on TV, just change the channel or turn it off. Why can&#039;t they take their own advice? If you don&#039;t like Christmas trees or decorations, just don&#039;t look.

It&#039;s obvious that the &quot;just turn it off&quot; mantra only applies to US and not to THEM. &lt;em&gt;Why, I am shocked, stunned, and amazed at this revelation.&lt;/em&gt;

And I agree with having them work on DEC 25. If they don&#039;t celebrate Christmas, don&#039;t take the day off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#19 &#8211; Greyman &#8211; If a Christmas tree offends someone, don’t look at it. If someone doesn’t want to celebrate Christmas, fine, I expect to see them at work on Dec. 25th.</p></blockquote>
<p>These are the same people that tell us that if we don&#8217;t want our children to see all of the sex and violence on TV, just change the channel or turn it off. Why can&#8217;t they take their own advice? If you don&#8217;t like Christmas trees or decorations, just don&#8217;t look.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that the &#8220;just turn it off&#8221; mantra only applies to US and not to THEM. <em>Why, I am shocked, stunned, and amazed at this revelation.</em></p>
<p>And I agree with having them work on DEC 25. If they don&#8217;t celebrate Christmas, don&#8217;t take the day off.</p>
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