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	<title>Comments on: Taliban apologist Yvonne Ridley speaks at UC Irvine</title>
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		<title>By: Leatherneck</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/23/taliban-apologist-yvonne-ridley-speaks-at-uc-irvine/comment-page-1/#comment-180852</link>
		<dc:creator>Leatherneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmooooooo!</description>
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		<title>By: Prime Director</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prime Director</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Mujahideen became the Taliban, a simple name change.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Math-boy, you must know enough about set theory to realize how ridiculous that statement is.

Just because the mujahideen and the taliban have some elements in common, does not mean they share the same identity.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They didn’t target Russian civilians in Afganistan because there weren’t any.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shamil Basayev didn&#039;t target russian civilians in Chechnya either.  He targeted them &lt;em&gt;in Russia&lt;/em&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They certainly targeted Afgan civilians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To what end would they do so?

The focus of the covert US intervention was to supply arms and training to a cadre dedicated to defeating the Soviet army and driving them out of Afghanistan.  Civilian massacres did not further this goal.

The provision of advanced technology and tactical support did.  The Stinger missle, an anti-aircraft weapon, was one of the decisive weapons of the Soviet-Afghan War, and as far as I know, afghan civilians generally don&#039;t fly helicopter gunships.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And don’t forget the Contras who had no qualms about killing civilians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The contras were &lt;em&gt;targeting&lt;/em&gt; civilians? This was proved unequivocably, according to which &lt;em&gt;unbiased&lt;/em&gt; source?

Human Rights Watch?

The communist Sandinista government was a greater human rights violator than the Contras ever were.

Regarding the Sandinista-Contra War:

Many American Indians know how bad the Sandinistas were.

I&#039;ve met quite a few members of the American Indian Movement.  Some of my own family belonged to AIM at one time or another.

One AIM leader used to come to the sweat lodge in my mother&#039;s backyard.  When his people heard that the Miskito Indians were being murdered by the Nicaraguan communists, AIM soldiers went down to Nicaragua and murdered them back.

I honor them, and the fact that they killed communists in defense of the Indian community means AIM will generally get the benefit of the doubt in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Mujahideen became the Taliban, a simple name change.</p></blockquote>
<p>Math-boy, you must know enough about set theory to realize how ridiculous that statement is.</p>
<p>Just because the mujahideen and the taliban have some elements in common, does not mean they share the same identity.</p>
<blockquote><p>They didn’t target Russian civilians in Afganistan because there weren’t any.</p></blockquote>
<p>Shamil Basayev didn&#8217;t target russian civilians in Chechnya either.  He targeted them <em>in Russia</em>.</p>
<blockquote><p>They certainly targeted Afgan civilians.</p></blockquote>
<p>To what end would they do so?</p>
<p>The focus of the covert US intervention was to supply arms and training to a cadre dedicated to defeating the Soviet army and driving them out of Afghanistan.  Civilian massacres did not further this goal.</p>
<p>The provision of advanced technology and tactical support did.  The Stinger missle, an anti-aircraft weapon, was one of the decisive weapons of the Soviet-Afghan War, and as far as I know, afghan civilians generally don&#8217;t fly helicopter gunships.</p>
<blockquote><p>And don’t forget the Contras who had no qualms about killing civilians.</p></blockquote>
<p>The contras were <em>targeting</em> civilians? This was proved unequivocably, according to which <em>unbiased</em> source?</p>
<p>Human Rights Watch?</p>
<p>The communist Sandinista government was a greater human rights violator than the Contras ever were.</p>
<p>Regarding the Sandinista-Contra War:</p>
<p>Many American Indians know how bad the Sandinistas were.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met quite a few members of the American Indian Movement.  Some of my own family belonged to AIM at one time or another.</p>
<p>One AIM leader used to come to the sweat lodge in my mother&#8217;s backyard.  When his people heard that the Miskito Indians were being murdered by the Nicaraguan communists, AIM soldiers went down to Nicaragua and murdered them back.</p>
<p>I honor them, and the fact that they killed communists in defense of the Indian community means AIM will generally get the benefit of the doubt in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: MrFreeman07</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrFreeman07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lgm #39. You still miss the point entirely. Jesus doesn&#039;t say any of this as a way to subjugate women. The whole premise is based on love. First, love for God, and, love for one another, as husband and wife. My wife and I are Christians and we live this principle, but it never means that my wife falls over herself to please me &quot;no matter what&quot;. It&#039;s not about me always telling her what to do, being right, or repressing her, and it&#039;s most certainly not about me being smarter!  It is about loving each other enough to know that someone has to, ultimately, accept, responsibility for how our family functions. lgm, this has absolutely nothing to do with the view of the American woman&#039;s place, it has everything to 
do with how much husbands should love their wives and respect them as partners in this thing called life.  I love my wife as much as Christ loves His church, and am willing to die for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lgm #39. You still miss the point entirely. Jesus doesn&#8217;t say any of this as a way to subjugate women. The whole premise is based on love. First, love for God, and, love for one another, as husband and wife. My wife and I are Christians and we live this principle, but it never means that my wife falls over herself to please me &#8220;no matter what&#8221;. It&#8217;s not about me always telling her what to do, being right, or repressing her, and it&#8217;s most certainly not about me being smarter!  It is about loving each other enough to know that someone has to, ultimately, accept, responsibility for how our family functions. lgm, this has absolutely nothing to do with the view of the American woman&#8217;s place, it has everything to<br />
do with how much husbands should love their wives and respect them as partners in this thing called life.  I love my wife as much as Christ loves His church, and am willing to die for her.</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Prime Director&lt;/strong&gt; sais (#41)

&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s fuzzy history. Why don’t you pedal your *ss over to the library and pick up a history book?

Hey, when did Reagan promote the targeting of russian civilians by mujahideen?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Mujahideen became the Taliban, a simple name change.  They didn&#039;t target Russian civilians in Afganistan because there weren&#039;t any.  They certainly targeted Afgan civilians.  And don&#039;t forget the Contras who had no qualms about killing civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Prime Director</strong> sais (#41)</p>
<blockquote><p>That’s fuzzy history. Why don’t you pedal your *ss over to the library and pick up a history book?</p>
<p>Hey, when did Reagan promote the targeting of russian civilians by mujahideen?</p></blockquote>
<p>The Mujahideen became the Taliban, a simple name change.  They didn&#8217;t target Russian civilians in Afganistan because there weren&#8217;t any.  They certainly targeted Afgan civilians.  And don&#8217;t forget the Contras who had no qualms about killing civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Magna Carta for women&quot;? She&#039;s right. Islam does for the average woman today what the Magna Carta did for the average woman in 1215.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Magna Carta for women&#8221;? She&#8217;s right. Islam does for the average woman today what the Magna Carta did for the average woman in 1215.</p>
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		<title>By: Prime Director</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/23/taliban-apologist-yvonne-ridley-speaks-at-uc-irvine/comment-page-1/#comment-179309</link>
		<dc:creator>Prime Director</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Reagan supported the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afganistan when they were fighting the Russians.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s fuzzy history, math-boy.  Why don&#039;t you pedal your *ss over to the library and pick up a history book?

Hey &lt;em&gt;professor&lt;/em&gt;, when did Reagan promote the targeting of russian civilians by mujahideen?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t know much about this woman, but she doesn’t seem dangerous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She eulogizes Shamil Basayev, the architect of the Moscow Theatre Hostage Crisis and the Beslan School Massacre and she rationalizes his actions.  She&#039;s an apologist for islamic terrorism.  Is islamic terrorism dangerous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Reagan supported the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afganistan when they were fighting the Russians.
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<p>That&#8217;s fuzzy history, math-boy.  Why don&#8217;t you pedal your *ss over to the library and pick up a history book?</p>
<p>Hey <em>professor</em>, when did Reagan promote the targeting of russian civilians by mujahideen?</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t know much about this woman, but she doesn’t seem dangerous.</p></blockquote>
<p>She eulogizes Shamil Basayev, the architect of the Moscow Theatre Hostage Crisis and the Beslan School Massacre and she rationalizes his actions.  She&#8217;s an apologist for islamic terrorism.  Is islamic terrorism dangerous?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Reagan supported the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afganistan when they were fighting the Russians&lt;/em&gt;

I am constantly amazed at your ignorance, LGM.

The Taliban were a scattered bunch of tribesman during the Soviet occupation. They were eventually funded and trained by the Pakistani ISI in the early 1990&#039;s, long after Reagan left office.

As for Reagan &quot;supporting&quot; Bin Laden, Osama bought most of his own arms with his own money and spurned the help of the CIA in the 1980&#039;s. There is no credible evidence linking Bin Laden and the CIA - ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Reagan supported the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afganistan when they were fighting the Russians</em></p>
<p>I am constantly amazed at your ignorance, LGM.</p>
<p>The Taliban were a scattered bunch of tribesman during the Soviet occupation. They were eventually funded and trained by the Pakistani ISI in the early 1990&#8217;s, long after Reagan left office.</p>
<p>As for Reagan &#8220;supporting&#8221; Bin Laden, Osama bought most of his own arms with his own money and spurned the help of the CIA in the 1980&#8217;s. There is no credible evidence linking Bin Laden and the CIA &#8211; ever.</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Prime Director&lt;/strong&gt; (#37) Reagan supported the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afganistan when they were fighting the Russians.

&lt;strong&gt;MrFreeman07&lt;/strong&gt; (#28) and &lt;strong&gt;Redog70&lt;/strong&gt; (#34): I don&#039;t see how the longer quote changes my point.  The Bible tells Women to be the followers and men the leaders, just as Jesus is the leader and his followers, well, are the followers.  The woman submits to her man, who is supposed not to take advantage of her.  

This is not the modern American view of a woman&#039;s place.  Women and men are equal in marriage.  They have the same rights and responsibilities.  If most American Christians have evolved beyond a literal interpretation of their scriptures, American Muslims can too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Prime Director</strong> (#37) Reagan supported the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afganistan when they were fighting the Russians.</p>
<p><strong>MrFreeman07</strong> (#28) and <strong>Redog70</strong> (#34): I don&#8217;t see how the longer quote changes my point.  The Bible tells Women to be the followers and men the leaders, just as Jesus is the leader and his followers, well, are the followers.  The woman submits to her man, who is supposed not to take advantage of her.  </p>
<p>This is not the modern American view of a woman&#8217;s place.  Women and men are equal in marriage.  They have the same rights and responsibilities.  If most American Christians have evolved beyond a literal interpretation of their scriptures, American Muslims can too.</p>
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		<title>By: Radiojoe1470</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radiojoe1470</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting is what you don&#039;t see in the video. No flying pies, or hecklers shouting her down. Not from the left, because she&#039;s the enemy of their enemy, and not from the right because we actually support the right to free idioc...I mean speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting is what you don&#8217;t see in the video. No flying pies, or hecklers shouting her down. Not from the left, because she&#8217;s the enemy of their enemy, and not from the right because we actually support the right to free idioc&#8230;I mean speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Prime Director</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/23/taliban-apologist-yvonne-ridley-speaks-at-uc-irvine/comment-page-1/#comment-179128</link>
		<dc:creator>Prime Director</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for whom she supports in Chechnia, your hero Reagan supported much worse in Afganistan. In both cases fighting Russians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I missed the part where Reagan supported the massacre of russian civilians, which she in fact has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for whom she supports in Chechnia, your hero Reagan supported much worse in Afganistan. In both cases fighting Russians.</p></blockquote>
<p>I missed the part where Reagan supported the massacre of russian civilians, which she in fact has.</p>
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		<title>By: MrFreeman07</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrFreeman07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, brainwashing aside, what better way to get us dumba** westerners to begin believing the &quot;religion of peace&quot;, than to subject the weak minded to treatment that is totally opposite of the expectation. Then plant them in the weak minded segment of society, that would be our schools, and have them spew their nonsense. One thing strikes me as kind of odd, however. She said that her translator was extremely afraid of the pious, light emitting, religious guy. If, as Yvonne says, he was such a nice guy, why should the translator be so afraid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, brainwashing aside, what better way to get us dumba** westerners to begin believing the &#8220;religion of peace&#8221;, than to subject the weak minded to treatment that is totally opposite of the expectation. Then plant them in the weak minded segment of society, that would be our schools, and have them spew their nonsense. One thing strikes me as kind of odd, however. She said that her translator was extremely afraid of the pious, light emitting, religious guy. If, as Yvonne says, he was such a nice guy, why should the translator be so afraid?</p>
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		<title>By: Laree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conversion at the end of a sword, this is what it looks like. What more proof does the Left need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conversion at the end of a sword, this is what it looks like. What more proof does the Left need?</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne Ridley, una malvada de izquierdas que adora a los talibanes! &#171; NUEVA EUROPA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yvonne Ridley, una malvada de izquierdas que adora a los talibanes! &#171; NUEVA EUROPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Jawa Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Jawa Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Something to Watch (If you want to throw things at your computer)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Both Ace and Michelle add context to this video of Yvonne Ridley apologizing for the Taliban. She would have made a great spokesperson for the German Bund. Another lesson from &#039;The Greatest Generation&#039;:With the start of World War II most......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Something to Watch (If you want to throw things at your computer)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Both Ace and Michelle add context to this video of Yvonne Ridley apologizing for the Taliban. She would have made a great spokesperson for the German Bund. Another lesson from &#8216;The Greatest Generation&#8217;:With the start of World War II most&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Redog70</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redog70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said MrFreeman07 #28
lgm #23 shows much ignorance.
It is amazing how often people quote small parts of that passage whilst ignoring the  &quot;Inconveniant truth&quot; of the context.
We get this all the time over here in the UK. They defend islam by saying Christianity is just as bad, and then roll out the quotes from the bible that let you know they haven&#039;t actually read it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said MrFreeman07 #28<br />
lgm #23 shows much ignorance.<br />
It is amazing how often people quote small parts of that passage whilst ignoring the  &#8220;Inconveniant truth&#8221; of the context.<br />
We get this all the time over here in the UK. They defend islam by saying Christianity is just as bad, and then roll out the quotes from the bible that let you know they haven&#8217;t actually read it!</p>
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