Flambée de violence: “Youths” now shooting at police; “This is war. There is no mercy. We want at least two policemen dead.”
Update 10:33pm Eastern. Latest description of the current situation on the ground…“Fragile calm”…guess the “youths” need a nap.
***
Flambée de violence
The poor, harmless misguided youth of unnamed ethnic origin in France are now peacefully demonstrating against oppression by…shooting at cops with hunting weapons. Scores of them. Some 80 police officers have been injured:
Rampaging youths rioted for a second night in Paris’ suburbs, firing at officers and ramming burning cars into buildings. At least 80 officers were injured, a senior police union official said Tuesday.
The overnight violence was more intense than during the three weeks of rioting in 2005, said the official, Patrice Ribeiro. He said “genuine urban guerrillas with conventional weapons and hunting weapons” were among the rioters.
On Monday night, youths were seen firing buckshot at police and reporters. About 30 of 82 injured officers were hit by buckshot, Ribeiro told The Associated Press. Rioters also hurled stones and Molotov cocktails at police, authorities said.
Police made six arrests, authorities said.
Wait a minute. Looks like the “youths” get a more detailed description. The wire editor must have forgotten to delete:
Youths, many of them Arab and black children of immigrants, again appeared to be lashing out at police and other targets seen to represent a French establishment they feel has left them behind.
“Police officers were targeted with hunting weapons; a certain number of them were wounded by lead shot,” said Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie. “This is totally unacceptable,” she said, adding there were six serious injuries, “people who notably were struck in the face and close to the eyes.”
The use of firearms added a dangerous new dimension to the rioting. Firearms are widespread in France, and police generally carry guns. Such weapons, though, were rarely used in the 2005 riots that spread to poor housing projects nationwide.
Here’s some video fresh from the battlefield. You don’t need to understand French to understand what’s going on:
Paris is preparing for more tonight:
Police were bracing for a third round of violence tonight. As the sun went down today in the town, a working- and lower-class suburb, an estimated 200 people marched silently through the main street past shops, bars and a housing project.
There were people of all ages, including some carrying babies. There was also a large contingent of youths, ranging in age from 10 years old to their early 20s. Some of these were carrying images of the two slain youths, and many of them blamed the police for their deaths. They vowed to continue their violent protest.
At around 5 p.m., rows of riot police vans moved into the town in preparation for what police said would be further violence tonight, and a police helicopter circled above the town near the site of Sunday’s collision. There were many people on the streets; other groups of local people were coming home from work and gathered on street corners.
Among the marchers, a young man who identified himself as Cem, 18, but who refused to give his full name, said: “This is war. There is no mercy. We want at least two policemen dead.”
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More coverage:
Gateway Pundit, Nidra Poller/PJM, Hot Air, Memeorandum.
Lawhawk notes: “Since the riots started two days ago, 120+ police officers have been injured, four of them seriously after being hit by buckshot from hunting weapons, according to police figures. In three weeks of rioting in 2005, 200 officers were injured. Many of those injured over the past two days have been hit by gunfire.”
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That’s what I do whenever I feel left behind–grab a gun and start shootin’! Anyone else?
Our police and government should take note. This is what can happen with uncontrolled immigration.
The article didn’t mention anything about the French people, but they should be armed so they can protect themselves from those violent immigrants who moved to France, but then want to change France to be like the place they left.
Any updated statements from Sorkozy? A good thing it’s not Chirac running things…
I think France should be the trial horse for all “civilized” countries in the west. Create a national “Marshall”(-type) law that states that anyone engaging in riotous behavior during a peaceful protest, or who engages in any type of assault, or who covers their face to prevent identification, shall be shot on sight.
All government employees under direction of those in authority shall be held harmless to any form of legal action. Those bringing legal action against lawful authorities who have carried out their lawful duty, shall be arrested, tried, and sentenced to a minumum of 10 years in jail.
Would this type of law short-cut anarchy, or encourage it?
From what I could observe (don’t speak a lick of French) it looked like the motorcycling youths hit the police car head on. The damage sustained to the police vehicle explains why these two did not survive. I guess it is time to send in the French Army to restore order obviously the police are not properly armed to counter these people of unspecified religious affiliation. Sounds like those darn Lutheran kids are on the rampage again.
As Michael Savage said……The Enemy within.
Keep bringing them in france!!!!!!!!
Eighty Police injured and six arrests? Looks like the “Youts” are running things.
“This is War” What I’m waiting for is both sides to believe this.
While the French political left can be pretty spineless most of the time, as a whole the native French will not tolerate a violent threat to their culture. There is also a deeply buried, but still very much alive, strain of racism in France.
If this kind of murderous rioting continues, I am afraid there will be a large scale and equally violent backlash against foreign immigrants in France. A good example of the intolerance that could be engendered by foreign rioters is what happened in Germany in the 1980′s with widespread violence against Turkish guest workers.
The “unnamed youths” should be very careful what they ask for; they just might get it.
Forewarned is to be forearmed. America’s arrogant open borders leaders need to take heed. We must close our borders to middle easterners until we get a handle on this outrageous invasion.
Where is Heraldo when you need him ?
Time to bring in the armed forces. Does France still have armed forces?
From the full AP dispatch:
A: Books, early education and cars
Q: Things that make a jihadi’s blood boil?
I fear the French army would be of no help either. To stop the violence they need to quell it…and to do that they need to confront it head on and not back down until the other side understands their way will not win. Of course the other side is doing the same thing and now we get to find out how much backbone the French have when it comes to protecting their country from outsiders trying to change it into their image. this is a scary prelude to what could happen here some day…
It will be interesting to see how the media portrays the story when the police and army decide they have been shot enough and start shooting back and killing the protesters.
Everywhere Islam goes, it is only a matter of time before their youths riot, murder, rape…
ROPMA
This is what it’s like when liberals have to defend a country. I’m sure that half the police force are in diversity training while the other half are getting shot at.
MTNEER, we can only hope for the backlash. Maybe France will finally understand the price of uncontrolled immigration by third world trash. And, then maybe the Liberals in this country will finally get it.
Stubby, don’t forget the invasion by Mexicans.
The French will take it for a bit, and then retaliate. There’s a history of this in Europe
Stubby,
You are right on the money. This is a preview of what we can expect right here in our streets if we don’t CLOSE the border and prevent the blame America, negotiate/appease, chicken s**t Democrats from totally taking over control of this country.
And by the way….aren’t the French one of our allies the Kerry and the rest of the idiots on the left keep screaming we are not working with to “solve” the War on Terror???? Hmmm?
Looks like they have things well under control.
damn yout’s !
Good luck, Mr. Sarkozy.
At a minimum, the police should cordon off the affected neighborhoods and let the “yout” destroy it. Then when there is nothing left to destroy, round them up and ship them back to the trash heap they came from.
I predict that it won’t be too long before we hear the order “fusils en haut” given to the French Army, assuming that this goes on for much longer.
Let’s hear it for the police who, in the midst of being shot at, are evidently steadfast enough not to mow down the mob. (Although they could use a good mowing down).
The lack of control is a good lesson for those willing to learn it, but I bet we don’t have a DC-ite with the book open.
The Fwench will do exactly what they did in 2005 and 2006 when the “youths” went on rampages and burned everything in sight in the suburbs of Paris. Wait for it to burn out. As long it is out of sight of the tourists the Fwench will just try to keep it contained to the local neighborhood. Local citizens and their property be damned, just don’t let the tourists see it.
Two days for the French Army and then it surrenders,
or have they built their new Maginot Line to hide behind. Our home grown Leftist crazies will never make the connection between the Mexican Invasion
here and what is going on in France because they
think that our illegals know the left loves them and
wants only the best for them. It’s only us nasty old
conservatives that want to send them back so that
when the Mexican Intifada that the Miami newspaper
seems to be trying to start, starts, we are the only
ones they will come after. Yeah, right.
In 2006 in Paris
and Here.
I’m not so sure about that. There’s a new sheriff in town. As the BBC reported:
As interior minister at the time, Mr Sarkozy was quick to crack down on the uprisings in the suburbs, causing controversy when he labelled the rioters “rabble”.
Should be interesting to see how the French government responds. I’ve been led to believe that Sarkozy has more of a spine than Chirac.
2005 was a banner year for the “youths” around Paris.
Where is monsieur Villepin to say, “Je refuse, Je refuse…”
Give em some more money and they’ll stop burning stuff after a few weeks. It’ll be okay. It’s their culture to pillage when they’re upset, whoever they are.
By the way, who are they? Oh, disaffected youths? Okay. That clears it all up for me.
The French could always outsource riot control to German authorities, I suppose. Would they welcome them with flowers and waving arms these days for some assistance?
Boomer said:
I guess it is time to send in the French Army to restore order obviously the police are not properly armed to counter these people of unspecified religious affiliation.
Heh… Boomer made a funny!
damnit… Meant to make that quotes… I try again.
Heh… Boomer made a funny!
The Immigrants of Perpetual Outrage took to the streets today to thank the French for their hospitality. As is their custom, they shared lead with their hosts, while remodelling a library and a car dealership.
“We are the religion of peace” one of their leaders said, “and we will kill you if you think otherwise.”
In other news, Nancy Pelosi announced she will be taking her vacation early, in order to partake in the Parisian festivities.
“At least if I’m going to have to wear a scarf, it might as well be Hermes” she said.
The French they are a funny race, parlez vous?
the French they are a funny race parlez vous?
The French they are a funny race…
fight with their feet and f#$% wit their face!
Hinky Dinky parlez vous!
Ugh, here we go again… I listened to a lengthy discussion on that show Megan Kelly hosts at 9AM about the “youths”.
But that was nothing compared to the lunacy of Marc Lamont Hill. First, he was the only person I ever actually heard say Petraeus is “betraying us” (live on Hannity & Colmes, Hannity dragged it out of him and Hill couldn’t restrain his hatred any longer), and now… Well, I can’t even give you one line, but if you DVRed Cavuto at 4, you’ll see. I only half listened and was as disgusted as… Ted Kennedy’s maid on laundry day.
This is what Eurabia is all about. At least the muslims are willing to state that they are at war against France. Sarkozy better deport a lot more than 25,000 of these people – or he is going to find that a very large number of historic French citizens will be departing.
How much MORE dangerous is Paris right now than Baghdad?
There are a total of 751 areas across France called ‘Zones urbaines Sensibles’ Basically, these are no-go areas where the cops are afraid to go. Get the popcorn ready, this may go on for a while.
While it is hard for me to have any sympathy for the French (especially their spineless government), as I work for Federal law enforcement, I do support my brothers in blue when they are under fire (they’re not like the Putin goon squad masquerading as police). But they shouldn’t hold their breath waiting for the French army to come to their rescue (they’re out reading their official publication “Soldier of Surrender”).
Funny, the “disaffected youths” in France often talk about jobs. Hey, I want a job in France. 38 weeks of work, strike any time, retire at 50, where’s my shotgun?
I thought a French gun was a gun that’s never been fired and only dropped once! Boy oh boy
This is all Bush’s fault!!! And global warming’s, too!!! Sign Kyoto!!! Impeach Bush!!!!
[/sarcasm]
Let them eat beouf jerkey!
put them in the French army!
Ok, maybe I missed something. But it seems to me that the most logical solution to the problem, when you’re being SHOT AT, is to SHOOT BACK. Hello?
A couple hundred misguided youths, of unnamed ethnic origin, won’t last very long in the face of retaliation with automatic weaponry by the authorities.
Problem solved.
The French need to move some of their battle-hardened Iraqi war veterans into Paris.
Oh, but then…
AlohaGuy said:
Yeah, maybe they’d have jobs if they actually learned French and assimilated with the French culture and society. That would be a start.
#48 – ex-actly.
We’re looking at our future, if things continue as they are.
Feebie — same goes for here in the U.S.
Not that bad of an idea. Do they still have the French Foreign Legion … as I remember they were mainly stationed in Africa and the Middle East … send them there and make it tough enough they all go AWOL … and make sure they can’t get back to France …
This is what happens when you coddle illegal aliens, criminals and anarchists. The same thing happened in the United States during the late 60s and early 70s.
Wow. What a brutally harsh statement. That ought to stop them!
Sarcasm off
Chief RZ its happing here in Santa Rosa, Ca. Huge groups of illegal aliens
demonstrate each Cinco De Mayo. They call us Racist and lot of other names.
It what happens when you a sanctuary county. You’re like a magnet for all kinds of problems.
#55 – is there ANYWHERE in Cali that isn’t a sanctuary city?
FNC reported that Nicolas Sarkozy as Interior Minister back in 2005 referred to the rioter as “scum”. Again, the rioters live up to that description.
Excellent point, and Jesse JackA$$ should accompany him.
twall, thanks for the mention. Glad in a way that I live in SC, where honesty is mostly recognized. The illegals/mexicans have been slowly playing their cards and now some places are at the point of “no borders.”
No, but you knew that. Is there anywhere in the USA that isnt?
The description of how the rioters ambushed the police last night – basically surrounding them and then letting loose with projectiles and gunshots – says to me that there is at least some organization to these “spontaneous” demonstrations.
That and the fact that police intel heard numerous warnings about when and where the attacks would occur tells me that there is method to all this madness and that it might be a good idea to cut off the head of this monster before it gets totally out of control.
Hmmm, what do you think? Hamas, Hezbollah? Interesting.
Sounds to me as if the monster is already out of control. They’ve been doing the same thing they’re
doing in the Middle East. They’re sitting around,
unemployed or underemployed, just thinking of things
to do. As Grandma said more than once, “Idle hands..”
Since the polizee are glorified traffic
cops and wont protect and serve…
I am rhetorically loading my Mariner590
shotgun..If they wanna see alah I will
be glad to assist…God Bless America
Sheriff Joe is doing a pretty good job with the outlying parts of Maricopa County.
I went to Del Amo mall in Torrance today and walked past a store called “Chicano Style.” It had a bunch of racial Mexican supremacist garb for sale. Tomorrow, I’ll take some pictures of it to put on my blog. Food for thought.
Mathematically Europe is finished in one maybe two generations, unless of course millions & millions of people either die or relocate. Scary to think, but it has happened before…
My concern is that we are not taking the necessary steps to prevent these things from occurring right here under our noses.
I just love all the dancing around people are doing as to who and what these little criminals are. there was even one of our favorite trolls who made a comment about it a few days ago. Why is it, when it is a Catholic or a Protestant or a Jew who is doing wrong, there is no hesitation at all in mentioning their religion as soon and often as possible, but when it is related to one of these Islamic thugs, their identity is hidden from the public? Just who are they protecting? Are they hoping that the problem will go away? After all, it is just a small minority, right Buck? Just a small minority that is holding the entire world hostage. that is keeping the entire world from functioning the way it should be, and keeping people from living in peace, or from traveling free from fear of having their plane explode beneath them, getting kidnapped off the streets, shot to death visiting the pyramids etc. Heck, can’t even visit London or now can’t even go shopping in Paris.
So where are the brave men and women of the French Resistence? Where are those brave souls who fought against the Nazi occupation 65 years ago? Where is their spirit, the spirit that refuses to allow these thugs to control the streets of Paris, telling them what they can and can’t do, where they can and can’t go, what kind of culture they can and can’t have? Why are the Gendarmes allowing themselves to be shot at? I understand the theory behind restraint when dealing with a riot situation, Lord knows I was sitting in an ambulance during one and just praying that the police showed it, but enough is enough, and when it comes between the men and women who protect and serve the public and keep the peace getting shot at and the thugs attempting to reign anarchy on the general populace, bending a country to their whim and changing it to the way they want it to be, I say enough is enough and you need to end it. If they use buck shot, you use regular rounds, they use regular rounds, you use automatic rifles etc…until you finally end it, bring down the insurrection and teach them that such a thing is not and will not ever be tollerated.
The fact that this went on for as long as it did last year is incredible and there is no excuse. All it did was give them permission to continue to do this, and to excalate it with each succesive time. Until the French get serious with them and take them out permanently, these thugs will continue to intimidate the populace until finally France no longer resembles the nation it once was. No worries though. Just a minority.
Yes he is, and I wish more were like him. Thanks for the reminder.
Sarko needs to step in and crush these rioters once and for all. Make an example of them. Give them no quarter. Round them up and deport them immediately. Shoot those that fire upon the police and shoot to kill.
Better get all of the artwork out of the Louvre and
other places in France and take a good long look at
Notre Dame, the Palace at Versailles, etc. because if
these unnamed rioters really get going all of these
precious things are going to be gone. Remember what
the Taliban did in Afghanistan. I still cannot figure out
how so much of the Egyptian relics managed to
survive Islam.
I feel very bad for the police. I hope it is stopped soon and those who caused it, contributed it are severely punished.
Sincere question for someone who might actually know and be in a position to provide a rational response (which excludes RetFireman by definition): Assuming that most, if not all, of the rioters are poor Middle Eastern and African immigrants, are these riots about jihad, poverty/crime/drugs/etc., or a combination of both?
How about they are just generally p.o.ed at the French and life in general and are being fed a culture of hate
by the Imams? How about the fact that they have found that they can get away with rioting? It doesn’t
make sense to us and probably never will but then I
never have understood why a people in the US would
riot and burn down their own neighborhood such as
Watts, etc.
Dakine: Or both. Most are followers, a few are leaders.
But pls don’t call them poor. They may have less, but they are not poor.
My husband: “You know what they need to do?”
Me: “Shoot back!”
And not with rubber bullets; the real stuff!
The jihad is alive and well and will be exploited.
Let me guess, they’re Amish youth.
Shooting creates martyrs…
Broken bones & prison terms creates losers.
Dakine, gee that was kind of a low blow you have ridiculed people in the past of doing. …hypocritical, much?
Its really hard to provide a rational answer to an irrational question, but I’ll humor you.
#1 – does it make a difference? does this justify shooting at cops and endangering others and destroying property? Really, does it matter? Seriously?
#2 – youth involved were quoted as saying “this is war”
#3 – i lived with a french girl in college for three years. I can tell you as of 2001, when she went home…there were places that were extremly dangerous to walk through….the persons involved in these riots seem to embody her description of the “unsafe” areas for non-muslims to walk through.
#4 – is it possible that their poor economic position is not so much about their religion or ethnicity, rather, their lack of assimilation into their new home country.
What say you, Dakine? You didn’t answer me a few days ago in a previous post….i don’t anticipate hearing from you now…but, I’ll give it a go???
Poor misguided youths forced at a young age to burn rape and murder because their, their..
culturereligion demands it?feebie, why is it an irrational question? I honestly don’t know the answer, and my question was asked in good faith…unloaded in other words. Some here (you included it seems) are making the assumption that these folks are all Muslim and the riots are “jihad related”. I’m curious to know whether that’s true or not. It may be that these riots are your basic garden variety class warfare nonsense. I’m making no apologies for the reprehensible actions of these people. I’m simply trying to understand the motives behind their actions. BTW, “low blow” maybe, but well deserved. RetFireman is full of hatred, irrationality and vitriol, and I’ll call him out on it every chance I get.
I will ignore the childish and hate filled statement by the tolerant Liberal who is always open to rational discussion. We know that Dakine is always there with such rational respones at any time, so I know it was meant in jest.
It depends on who you get the information from. It has been a mish mash of info aas to what they are rioting over. this time, it is due to perceived injustice of the police, though it was the youths fault when they were speeding and hit the police. The Imams fill the heads of the youth and college aged with lies saying how the French do not care about them and thus their plight becomes worse, they have no jobs and the like, and are told not to learn te language or assimilate into the society. The french have done nothing to set up anything in order to make assimilation any easier, and instead have let their well known rudeness towards foreigners transfer towards these new comers which has lead to ill feelings in a community which is well known to have a short fuse. When you combine a short fuse with non-assimilation and perceived injustice and lies told by leaders as well as nothing being done by the government to help, this is what happens.
However, the fact that it has become as bad as it has is purly a failure on the part of both the French government to crack down on the rioters, as well as the leaders of the immigrants to calm them down and tell them that this is no way to act wen they are essentially guests in a new land.
Now, I will accept you apology, or you can continue acting like a child. Your choice.
I think it may be time for Sarkozy to bring in the Military and isssue a shoot-to-kill order.
Texhoma: I am with you on that.
“This is war. There is no mercy. We want at least two policemen dead.”
The US in a major role liberated France twice in the last Century. Those that will not work, will not assimilate and promote Jihad and hate the US and the hand of the Government that feeds them can either be EXPORTED back to Algeria or Yemen or the Sudan to that Islamic Bung*ole of Origin or be given vactaions at that old French resort, Hotel Devil’s Island!
I have to disagree a bit. Assimilation is a big problem, but if there’s one thing the French insist upon is language. Any time you go to a French-colonized country, they speak French and they speak it well. I’ve spoken with French speakers from Martinique, Haiti, Pacific islanders and all over Africa – all speak the language w/ slight accents but properly.
Oops…It should read “upon IT is language.”
Also, RetFireman – Again, assimilation is a problem, but it’s not because the French are so rude to foreigners. I spent a good deal of time in Paris and elsewhere, and I only had two or three people be rude to me. It had nothing to do with my being American, they were just jerks. Granted, there is some open racism against Arabs/Africans, but it’s certainly not the majority.
I am by no means a “multi-culturalist,” but it frustrates me when Americans who go there take time to learn about their culture at all but expect to end up in America with an Eiffel Tower. 95% of the time he French are being polite, but polite in France is very cold and formal whereas in America polite is warm and open.
And we can’t get after them for wanting tourists to try to speak their language because we want people who come here to try to speak English (and I agree!). You might butcher the language, but if you at least try they will be very hospitable.
The French have plenty of things they could do better; let’s not go after them for something that’s not real.
Are these the French that Hillary whose opinion Hillary is so concerned about?
This latest “Republic” of theirs is less than 50 years old and is the longest-lasting government that they have had since they killed their king.
This is who the U.S. is supposed to be worried about impressing?
I heard that the rioters are primarily a bunch of welfair brats who are angry that their welfair is being cut off. Is this true?
Happened to stumble across the uncyclopedia’s entry for France. It’s got a few good one-liners in it, for example:
and
There is also a “John Kerry’s Foreign Policy” poster here.
I don’t know if their welfare is being cut off or not, but I would bet that most of them are on welfare. I met lots of immigrants in both France and Belgium who were on welfare and yet also had computers, internet, scanners, DVD players with huge TVs… Why work???
Dakine:
This is the most absurd sentance out of you yet. Really, are you joking?
Garden variety warefar..(he says nonchalantly) …ooookkkeey doookkkeeey.
Geez feebie, I might have to take back my compliment from the other thread…just kidding. It was a serious question. I don’t have any particular vested interest in the answer…just curious if folks had any more detailed knowledge. I lived less than 2 miles from the outer edge of the LA riots, so maybe I have a different perspective. If it’s angry Muslim kids waging their version of jihad, then so be it. I’m a big Christopher Hitchens fan, so you can be pretty safe in guessing that I’m not a big defender of Islam.
fair enough.
i wish it weren’t so (assuming the worst about Islam)…but they started it!!!!
Yeah, I figured you were too immature and childish to apologize. So be it. Return to under your bridge. At least you give credence to why you have no clue as to what is going on in the world and why nothing anyone says makes sense to you.
I hear ya feebie.
Why would I apologize to you RetFireman? You have no honor, and virtually all of your comments parrot the same tired diatribe over and over and over and over again. BTW, you are most certainly an extreme right wing authoritarian zealot, but you are in no way whatsoever a true conservative. I’ll repeat for you the fundamentals of true conservatism (which I wholeheartedly adhere to) as articulated by the late, great Barry Goldwater: (a) draw on the proven wisdom of the past; (b) do not debase the dignity of others; and (c) maximize freedom consistent with necessary safety and order. Read Senator Goldwater’s book, The Conscience of a Conservative…there’s an outside chance you might actually learn something.