The Annapolis photo-op; Update: A “joint understanding” unveiled
Update 11:40am Eastern. The first “peace talks” will take place on Dec. 12.
Update 11:06am Eastern. President Bush is now reading a statement agreed to by Abbas and Olmert…”joint understanding”…”We agree to immediately launch good-faith bilateral negotiations…engage in vigorous and ongoing negotiations…another roadmap promised…Congratulations for your strong leadership.” Abbas and Olmert grimace and shake hands…
Well, there it is.
It’s all downhill from here.
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More worldwide protests at Snapped Shot.
Meanwhile, in Palestine (via Yahoo! News)…
How awkward: Take a look at President Bush’s failed attempt at a group hug.
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Frank Gaffney calls the Annapolis folly a “gang rape.”
Bernard Lewis concludes: “If the issue is not the size of Israel, but its existence, negotiations are foredoomed. And in light of the past record, it is clear that is and will remain the issue, until the Arab leadership either achieves or renounces its purpose — to destroy Israel. Both seem equally unlikely for the time being.”
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The “Palestinian” “leader” should have been arrested.
Question:
What will happen if Israel gave 99% of Israel to the Palestinians and only kept 1% for themselves?
Answer:
The Palestinians and other Arabs will still send in suicide murderers to the 1% area until all the land is theirs and all the Jews are dead.
Give them nothing!!!!
Send the Israelis more weapons. Peace through victory!
I agree with #3
Errah what about my 8 million dollar deal and someone else has to write the bloody mess! I’m as giddy as a Idaho Senator in a stadium bathroom! Errah!
Attempting reason with an unreasonable people. Arguing logically with someone whose thoughts and actions are based on emotions. But hey, it made Jimmy Carter famous right? It makes me wonder what the point is in this fiasco or if politics are so far gone that logic and reason need not apply?
Oops, never mind!
What wonderful news! Peace is sure better than continual war and the loss of innocent life on both sides…
So, let’s see, 2 groups who have been fighting for roughly 1300 years, neither of whom negotiate from a Christian position. Now, take into account that one of the sides also has a religious mandate/allowance to lie cheat and steal if it will improve their position when negotiating with non-Muslims.
… how is there supposed to be any sort of value out of another Oslo Accord situation? After all, that one worked so bloody well …
Frank Gaffney’s got it right.
Just wait until all this plays itself out. The Israelis are swimming in the water with the sharks, they’re at the table with the barbarians, and Dr. Rice is chumming and serving up the snacks.
This is insanity. What is it that happens to folks in D.C? Our own leaders cannot recognize the monsters and invite them to dinner, to feed on Israel. History repeats itself. Remember Hitler and Chekoslavakia? Here we go again.
Cal Thomas has a good article on this latest Bush-Rice disaster. Piece Summit
Diplomacy works! Isn’t this “show” suppose to be proof of that?
Appeasement, Containment and Diplomacy. When these fail, as they most certainly will and have – what then do we do since war is not an option?
Pray tell what do we do?
The war is lost and it should end immediately, yet talks must continue with no end in sight. It’s the only way, they say.
What a joke.
I’ll take my chances with the men and women who are over there in the Middle East fighting for our freedom. That’s been the tried and true method. Their sacrifice is one that cannot be measured but I’ll stand with them against this enemy.
Screw the rest.
It would seem that every U.S. President since 1948 has wanted his legacy to be peace between Israel and the arabs. And every one has failed by repeating the same mistaken assumption that the arabs want peace.
Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result.
My grandpa used to say “never mud wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it.” The same could be said for negotiating with muslims.
I think we would make a lot more progress if we quit giving them money and weapons. Israel, with the backing of the U.S. (if not the entire free world)should shut down the borders, shut off the electricity and water and tell the arabs to take care of the paleostinians if it’s such a great concern.
I for one think we should be done wasting time and money trying to save a group of people that don’t want to be saved.
Captain Ed points out an interesting irony. The Arabs are meeting with Israel (a de facto admission of Israel’s existence), but they haven’t sent diplomats to Baghdad.
Well, the good news is that if Olmert offers a division of Jerusalem or leaving Judea and Samaria his government will fall and the Palis will have to deal with Netanyahu.
Can work both ways…
“I think we would make a lot more progress if we quit giving Israel money and weapons.”
Yeah….We wouldn’t want them to be able to defend themselves!!!!!! Idiot.
If we quit giving Israel weapons to protect themselves just how long do you think they would last?
Not only are the barbarians at their gate but they are inside ours.
I say turn Israel loose on them. It would be a short war. People underestimate Israel’s army and the desire of an Israeli soldier’s heart. It would be a mistake for any nation to think they can remove Israel from the earth. It has been tried many times and I am sure it will never happen.
Israel tried giving land for peace. I say let them take their peace by force.
This is just about as bad as when Clinton hosted that meeting and Arafat and Raben shook hands….yeah, that went SO well.
YOU CAN’T TALK TO TERRORISTS….THEY DON’T GET IT!!!
#15 Sausage: Other than giving up land won in defending itself, giving millions in aid, allowing Arabs to live in Israel and practice their religion as equal citizens (try that in Saudi Arabia), short of conceding everything to the arabs and committing mass suicide, what would you have them do to obtain peace?
The only time Israel has shown any agression towards the arabs has been in response to being attacked.
If the paleostinians would spend less time trying to destroy Israel and more time in building infrastructure and a sustainable economy (something Israel and the U.S. would gladly help with), they would live in peace and prosperity.
But they insist on keeping up the fight to eradicate Israel from the face of the Earth, and live in a shithole.
Look at how fast they destroyed the greenhouses in Gaza. From thriving business to trashpile in hours.
I keep remembering how often the news would report on another Palestinian suicide bomber blowing up Israelis then, Israel built a wall that everyone criticized and hated. I can’t remember the last time I heard about a suicide bomber in Israel so it seems to me that the way to deal with Palestinians is to keep them the **** away from you.
So today the “Abu Dhabi Investment Authority” bought up a good sized chunk of Citibank. The cost? 1.5 months of Iraq War budget. Do you think things like that don’t have longterm implications for America’s relationship with Israel, let alone the war on terror? With our low dollar, baby boomer entitlements and unabated (by taxes) oil consumption, why should the Arabs fight us when they can just buy us?
OK, Billy Goat…why don’t you find yourself a nice little troll and pick fleas off each other under a smelly bridge.
My PC comment for the day to you…You are hopeless. Why don’t you go BUY a life.
They should have issued a few ‘concerns’, and maybe ‘condemned’ something. Then they would have been just as useful as the UN!
walterc – I know what you are saying…. but let’s not doubt the army of Israel is vast compared to the other side…
I really do support Israel but there has to be a Palestinian state…. will the people there stand up and work towards it? I really hope so…war cannot answer this one….
#8: “neither of whom negotiate[s] from a Christian position”. Would that be the Christian position of unconditional surrender, as in World War 2? On second thought, that worked out pretty well for all parties.
#26: “there has to be a Palestinian state”. The Arab state of Jordan occupies about 77% of the British Mandate of Palestine, recognized as the Jewish national home in the Balfour Declaration, and to this day it is a capital crime to sell land to a Jew. Not enough Judenrein for you? Try Gaza. While about 20% of Israel is Arab, the Palestinian-Arabs couldn’t bear that 0.1% of the population of Gaza was Jewish.
“war cannot answer this one…” War answered slavery in America, and German, Italian and Japanese fascism. War will settle this quite well.