Video: Anderson Cooper’s moment of shame — extended edition!

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 29, 2007 09:44 AM

Allah’s got the vid clip of CNN’s Anderson Cooper getting caught flat-footed as Bill Bennett calls him out on Plant Number 1, Hillary lesbian/gay campaign committee member and retired military officer Keith Kerr.

Also: CNN reportedly excised Kerr’s question from the rebroadcast of the debate in the wee hours of the morning.

Looks like they’ve got a lot more weeds to pull.

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  1. #182518
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:46 am, malkin_fan said:

    SHOCKED…..

    …I’m SHOCKED that there are gay Clinton operatives asking questions in this debate.

  2. #182520
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:48 am, MissMarciLyn said:

    It’s about time someone started noticing this stuff….if only we could have had this type of information available, oh say, in 1992 or 1996????

  3. #182523
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:50 am, reppac122 said:

    See, CNN is the Communist News Network. Just like the Soviets, they cut and paste whenever their “mistakes” are revealed. Gay General…what gay general??

  4. #182529
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:53 am, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    What I couldn’t believe is that they let the guy make a speech. As close as CNN is to the gay community and Shillary…they had to know who he was.

  5. #182532
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:56 am, optiksguy said:

    I agree with Eric. Regardless of whether or not he works for the Hillary camp, it was completely inappropriate to give him rebuttal time. He was a questioner, not a debater.

  6. #182533
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:56 am, wrcnossen said:

    This is an example of why I didn’t watch this debate. The questions are asked from the liberal standpoint, from people who are not republican or conservative, who have no intention of voting for anyone on the stage.

  7. #182535
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:57 am, taylork said:

    Good thing they excised from the repeats, so that the rest of the 10 people who saw the debate wouldn’t see the question.

    The thing is about all the plants is, is that none of the candidates really flubbed any of the planted questions (with the exception of Romney’s stumble), so who really cares.

    Yeah, it shows that CNN can vet worth a hoot, and we ought to be having Republicans asking questions in a Republican primary, but when it’s all said and done, our candidates ought to be able to answer all of the questions that are being asked, no matter who asks it.

    Whoever wins will get more hostile quuestions in the general election debates, sp if they can’t handle the ones gives to them now, what makes you think they can handle even more later? (Again, I thought they all handled them quite well).

  8. #182536
    On November 29th, 2007 at 9:58 am, taylork said:

    OT-but am I the only one that’s getting a bit tired my the Huckster’s comedy routine? It was cute at first, but now it’s just irritating, as he uses it to avoid thoughtful, measured responses on difficult questions. I’m voting for President of the United States here, not the contestants of Last Comic Standing.

  9. #182539
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:01 am, georgej said:

    The general’s video question is still available on CNN’s website. In fact, ALL of the videos are online, and there is no indication that some of these questions are from weeds.

    The way to deal with weeds is to defoliate them, as you said. In all future Republican debates, all questions and questioners must be vetted by the RNC before the show goes on. Questions from plants will not be asked.

    Suzanne Malveaux should be permanently barred from participating in any future Republican debates. Not only did she know about the plants, she aided and abetted them by not identifiying them as such.

    Next year, in the debates between the actual nominees, the Republicans should refuse to attend debate put on by CNN, unless the Democrats agree to debate on the FNC, first.

    In the mean time, you can address your outrage to CNN’s “IReport” feedback form.

  10. #182541
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:01 am, ajmontana said:

    Cooper is full of pooper and a Liar.
    I liked Thompsons response on the immigration fiasco we have here in the US while Rudy and Mitt were just arguing like 3rd graders over sanctuary Mansions Fred was specific. It appears the candidates have listened to public sentiment regarding sanctuary as a hot button issue against it yet we continue down the open border road. Bucket of questions my eye, they dont make miracle gro fast enough to keep up with their garden. :roll:

  11. #182545
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:04 am, DesertLover said:

    Eric_CharlotteNC

    Here is the link I posted on the other thread to show Gen. Keith Kerr appeared on CNN on Dec 11, 2003 … no way they did not know who this guy was …

    http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1932048/posts

  12. #182546
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:06 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    It amazes me that out of the thousands of submitted questions they could accidentally find these plants.

    Amazing!

  13. #182551
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:08 am, DelosWorld said:

    The “townhall” question debate format needs to become a thing of the past – especially when it inadvertantly becomes a campaign tool or is so easily manipulated by opposition political organizations or individuals. That type of thing would never happen to a responsible journalist or debate moderator… Heh heh heh, I said tool.

  14. #182553
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:10 am, max said:

    It appeared to me that CNN chose the angy dem questioners as part of its ongoing effort to convince America that there really are NOT ANY reasoning, thinking republicans out there at all…unless maybe they’re bad country western redneck jokesters like the geetar dude that kicked off the “hilarity.”

  15. #182557
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:13 am, MrScribbler said:

    There’s one simple solution to the “plant” dilemma: make the Dems answer the same questions during the next debate!

    They will all end up babbling and yammering in Ron Paul style.

  16. #182559
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:18 am, ajmontana said:

    I’ve had it on FOX News all morning and their just reporting one plant, they know darn good and well there were more. I wish just once they would report the entire story on these channels. :roll:

  17. #182561
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:19 am, ajmontana said:

    Great idea mr. scribbler. they avoid those issues like the plague.

  18. #182565
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:22 am, DesertLover said:

    aj … agreed they should out them all … but I think they are just naming the one that has a provable link to Hillary … the others seem to be declared supporters but don’t have a formal connection to the campaigns of a Dem candidate like Kerr does …

  19. #182568
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:24 am, wrcnossen said:

    MrScribbler, Great Idea! Get half the questions from left-coast moonbats, half from gun-tottin’ redneck sons of the south. Make each candidate answer all questions in video, without hearing the other responses. What a Hoot!

  20. #182569
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:24 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Boy, he’s lazy and sloppy.

  21. #182571
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:25 am, ajmontana said:

    DL, if you can find it read Mary Katherines article yesterday with Anderson Blooper at townhall.com.
    He’s just another crapweasel.

  22. #182575
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:27 am, DesertLover said:

    aj … I saw it and read it yesterday … I agree … but then being a crapweasel is a pre-req to getting a job at CNN

  23. #182576
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:27 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Dirty
    Emotionally
    Motivated
    Stooges

  24. #182578
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:28 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I like Glenn Beck!

  25. #182591
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:38 am, JammieWearingFool said:

    Anderson Vanderbilt is a disgrace to the business. Which is probably why he works for CNN.

  26. #182593
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:39 am, lgm said:

    I think the MM attack on CNN is misdirection. The most important issue is how the Republican candidates handled themselves. Let’s face it, even MM was not impressed. If she had been, the headlines would have been “Republican candidates shine at debate”.

    Rather than admit that they looked like 8 dim bulbs, she attacks CNN for supposedly pitching unfair questions. Well, if Romney or Rudy or Ron or Mike can’t answer a question posed by, heaven forbid, a Democrat, they are not up to the job of being President.

  27. #182598
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:40 am, ajmontana said:

    Troll Alert

  28. #182600
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:41 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    PLEASE
    IGNORE
    HIM.

    Gotcha back Soap.

  29. #182601
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:42 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Hey, Aj, you beat me to it.

  30. #182602
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:42 am, georgej said:

    lgm: go pound sand.

    CNN was dishonest. CNN did not disclose the fact that these were DEMOCRAT activists trying to sabotage the REPUBLICAN primary election.

  31. #182604
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:44 am, Rusty said:

    This “plant” talk is ridiculous. Should CNN have used a clip of someone who actively worked for HRC? No. Not without disclosing it.

    But the Edwards and Obama “plants”? That is ridiculous. Just because I support Sen. Clinton, that means I shouldn’t be allowed to ask the Republican candidates a question? That’s madness.

  32. #182605
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:44 am, DesertLover said:

    P.I.M.P.S.

  33. #182606
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:45 am, ajmontana said:

    8 dim bulbs, lol, better than the dems burned out used and thrown in the landfill 40 watt useless crapweasel dim wit variety.

  34. #182607
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:45 am, WORK949 said:

    What’s so ironic about this gaffe by Anderson Cooper and CNN is that Cooper was on the Glenn Beck radio show yesterday. Following the interview Beck was talking about what a stand-up guy Cooper is.

    I wonder if Beck is going to re-visit his opinion today now that Cooper got caught with his knickers down.

    Thanks, Michelle Malkin, for the hard work you do. Without you and your compatriots none of this trash we are being spoon-fed as honest public discourse would ever be exposed for what it is. I mean, who would reveal it? Dan Rather? NPR? CBS? NBC? ABC? Disney?

    Thank you ma’am. My hat’s off to you, again.

  35. #182610
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:46 am, ajmontana said:

    Who left the bridge down?

  36. #182614
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:48 am, pokenhorn said:

    For General Kerr, It’s like this: People in positions of leadership, be they scout masters or military officers, cannot be allowed to bunk, shower, and live around the clock with the objects of their sexual desires. If gay men are to serve in the military, they should bunk with the women soldiers. Gay women should bunk with the men.

  37. #182616
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:49 am, mytake said:

    Someone needs to go back and look at the Democrat U-tube debate to see if there were any Republican plants. This would be an interesting comparison in a great many ways. Examples: If there were none, it could mean they were eliminated after vetting or that Rebublicans aren’t interested in this sort of nonsense.

  38. #182617
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:50 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Rusty, I would agree with you if I believed that you would feel the same way had this been a Democratic debate and Republican “plants” were found to have infiltrated not only the debate but were chosen out of thousands to have their questions read. You can downplay it and claim it is a non-issue. However, the truth is you would be up-in-arms if the shoe were on the other foot.

  39. #182619
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:52 am, DesertLover said:

    5000 submitted questions … they use 33 on air (counting the dumb Yankees one at the end) … and so far going on 20% of those selected were from supposedly “undecided” voters who in fact have already declared their support for Democrat candidates … I am sure more will be uncovered as time goes on … that is total BS and manipulation of the so-called debate …

  40. #182621
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:52 am, ajmontana said:

    It’s as clear as troll standing on a freeway overpass, the dems and their cronies are a shady bunch of lying crapweasels.

  41. #182623
    On November 29th, 2007 at 10:54 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    trip, trap, trip, trap.

  42. #182646
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:13 am, bear1909 said:

    Good Morning!!!!

    Image: Bear1909 setting down his sock puppet bazooka and getting a good stretch before ringing up coordinates for cRusty and LittleGreenMeatball.

    Dhimmicrats and spontaneous grassroots anything are an impossibility. Now, if we want to talk: smear, lie, obfuscate, steal, murder, cheat, and engage in phony rehab dramas (Clinton’s sex addiction “recovery”)…that is a horse of a different color.

    Giddy up.

    :lol:

    Back in a coupla hours. Gots to go to the school to mediate a complaint against a moonLoon teacher who thinks it is good to use racial epithets in her 5th grade science class to illustrate how much certain words hurt Homosexuals.

    Oh. The science of “what”?

    OT. aJ!!!! Them tortillas didn’t survive the day. I think there was a teaspoon of salsa left when I arm-wrestled my brother-in-law for it.

    Yum-diddy! :lol:

  43. #182647
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:13 am, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    Thanks for the link DesertLover.
    I also thought the queestion about ‘every word of the Bible’ was trying to make a point as well as the muslum girl asking about our ‘image to the rest of the world’. Who by the way I would have told that I am more concerned about Americans image about America!
    Anyway, I thought the ‘young’ were way over represented…by a long shot.

  44. #182650
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:16 am, ajmontana said:

    lol, glad you enjoyed them, good to see you survived flying. 8)

  45. #182657
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:19 am, Rusty said:

    30 pcs of silver (#38),

    I would have absolutely no problem if a Rudy supporter asked the Dem candidates a question at the previous debate. None.

    Heck, if I had a problem getting flak from the other side of the aisle, I certainly wouldn’t be leaving comments here.

    BTW, the Republicans’ response to Keith Kerr’s question was absolutely shameful. Soldiers aren’t ready to handle gay colleagues? I guess I think higher of soldiers than the Republicans do.

    And who cares if they’re ready. A lot of people weren’t ready for blacks to integrate into white schools. But the right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless of whether people are ready for it or not.

  46. #182660
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:21 am, ajmontana said:

    rusty mitt answered honestly.

  47. #182661
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:21 am, bear1909 said:

    OT: Air Bear touched down at 630p last nite. I kissed the tar mac. Back in Gawdz Country. Land of the Feinstein. Home of the Cheese Boxer. Pond of the Pelosi, oil slick and all.

  48. #182662
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:22 am, ajmontana said:

    He said he would consult the military what would you do talk to code pink?

  49. #182668
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:26 am, bear1909 said:

    And who cares if they’re ready. A lot of people weren’t ready for blacks to integrate into white schools. But the right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless of whether people are ready for it or not.

    eh, cRusty? for once in your life, try to argue “gay rights” without co-opting the African American freedom struggle.

    Flattening out the argument to say “discrimination is discrimination” is flat wrong. Make the case on its own merits. Saying “it’s just like with blacks (or Indians or Mexicans). It isn’t. The case for gays in the military has not been made on its own merits.

    So make it. Or get lost.

    Your last comment shows you are woefully ignorant of Black viewpoints on what the “right thing” was and is today.

  50. #182678
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:32 am, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    Rusty said:
    30 pcs of silver (#38),

    I would have absolutely no problem if a Rudy supporter asked the Dem candidates a question at the previous debate. None.

    First of all, the Dem’s ask there own questions. Secondly, they will not even answer or even talk to Fox News. So I would say we have a problem with the hypocrisy. Lastly, the repub’s are trying to find their candidate so I’m sure they would like to ask the questions that they think are relevant.

    Heck, if I had a problem getting flak from the other side of the aisle, I certainly wouldn’t be leaving comments here.

    You have more courage than the dem candidates!

    BTW, the Republicans’ response to Keith Kerr’s question was absolutely shameful. Soldiers aren’t ready to handle gay colleagues? I guess I think higher of soldiers than the Republicans do.

    And who cares if they’re ready. A lot of people weren’t ready for blacks to integrate into white schools. But the right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless of whether people are ready for it or not.

    I care if they’re ready. They have their lives on the line and should not have to worry about ANYTHING else…like being politically correct.
    The answer is…yes they are professional enough to handle it but why should they have to.

  51. #182690
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:39 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I would have absolutely no problem if a Rudy supporter asked the Dem candidates a question at the previous debate. None.

    Pretenders. These people were pretending to be someone they weren’t, CNN’s vetting process or the lack thereof didn’t catch it, and you are downplaying this as if this was a just a simple Q&A. This people were plants. That’s the difference here.

    Heck, if I had a problem getting flak from the other side of the aisle, I certainly wouldn’t be leaving comments here.

    Please do not try to change the discussion. No one has complained about the “toughness” of the questions, if you can call them that.

    BTW, the Republicans’ response to Keith Kerr’s question was absolutely shameful. Soldiers aren’t ready to handle gay colleagues? I guess I think higher of soldiers than the Republicans do.

    The ban was signed into law by former President Bill Clinton. Take it up with him.

    And who cares if they’re ready. A lot of people weren’t ready for blacks to integrate into white schools. But the right thing to do is the right thing to do regardless of whether people are ready for it or not.

    You liberals love trotting out black people to prove a point. “There was a time when black people couldn’t marry white people” and to you liberals that somehow that equates with allowing gay marriage.

    Sexual Orientation is not on the level of civil rights.

  52. #182691
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:39 am, Blind_Mule said:

    Bill Bennett is great, he has no problem getting info immediatly after the debate but CNN did’nt have it before, c’mon he admits he had knowledge of him, “We knew that he was some kind of activist” The Great Democratic set up and CNN act’s as if they had no idea what was going on, that’s hilarious.

  53. #182702
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:46 am, bipartisancomplainer said:

    That is ridiculous. Just because I support Sen. Clinton, that means I shouldn’t be allowed to ask the Republican candidates a question? That’s madness.

    Um, time to get a clue. The primaries are for the members of the party, not for everyone. So why should valuable question time be wasted by those that can’t even be part of the voting? You get to consider the Republican candidate once they’ve been selected. Until then, it’s not your issue.

  54. #182708
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:49 am, Oink said:

    You can’t make me believe CNN didn’t know about these people! That General got more air time than Duncan Hunter. Ridiculous!

  55. #182716
    On November 29th, 2007 at 11:53 am, DesertLover said:

    Oink

    check out the link in my post #11 … CNN not only knew about the General he had appeared on CNN programs before …

  56. #182743
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:10 pm, Rusty said:

    You liberals love trotting out black people to prove a point. “There was a time when black people couldn’t marry white people” and to you liberals that somehow that equates with allowing gay marriage.

    Sexual Orientation is not on the level of civil rights.

    It’s not on the level of civil rights. It is civil rights. People should have the right to marry who they choose. People should have the right to defend the country they love. People should have the right to live without fear of harassment or violence. These are all civil rights that gays have yet to achieve.

    I’d be much happier if instead of kicking gays out of the Army we’d just kick out anyone who has a problem serving with gays. That would be much more fair and reasonable to me.

  57. #182746
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:14 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    30,

    Nice smack down of Rusty.

    Thanks for catching by back.

  58. #182753
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:17 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:10 pm, Rusty said:

    It’s not on the level of civil rights. It is civil rights. People should have the right to marry who they choose.

    So, if men want to marry 12 tear old boys, you are okay with that Rusty?

    Are you a member of NAMBLA or just a supporter?

  59. #182755
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:19 pm, Rusty said:

    Um, time to get a clue. The primaries are for the members of the party, not for everyone.

    Maybe in your state. But when I voted in the 2004 primary, I, a registered Democrat, voted for McCain in the GOP primary.

    Each state is different. So, yeah, I have a clue.

  60. #182757
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:19 pm, terrig said:

    Soap, pay no attention to Rusty. He thinks it’s outstanding that women have the right to kill their unborn children. He would be all in favor of people marrying 12 year olds if that was on the table.

  61. #182759
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:20 pm, Rusty said:

    So, if men want to marry 12 tear old boys, you are okay with that Rusty?

    Are you a member of NAMBLA or just a supporter?

    Minors in most states can’t make these types of decisions. Civil rights, like, say VOTING, don’t apply to minors.

    But thanks for dumbing the debate down, as usual soap-box.

  62. #182765
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:23 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Just trying to keep up with you there Rusty

  63. #182766
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:24 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    People should have the right to marry who they choose.

    Rusty, my brother, who is gay understands the sanctity and definition of marriage being between man and woman. It’s the way God intended it.

    You have a problem with that. Take it up with Him.

    People should have the right to defend the country they love.

    They do.

    People should have the right to live without fear of harassment or violence.

    I concur. This is something that all of us should have; however, as long as there are bad people in the world, well, you just have to roll with the punches. No pun intended.

    These are all civil rights that gays have yet to achieve.

    False.

    I’d be much happier if instead of kicking gays out of the Army we’d just kick out anyone who has a problem serving with gays. That would be much more fair and reasonable to me.

    So you prefer that we have no military…I got it.

  64. #182767
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:24 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Thanks Soap!

  65. #182768
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:25 pm, Rusty said:

    Soap, pay no attention to Rusty. He thinks it’s outstanding that women have the right to kill their unborn children. He would be all in favor of people marrying 12 year olds if that was on the table.

    Very clever, Terri. I hope you and Soap are enjoying tearing down the straw man you built.

    Let’s save the abortion debate for another thread and just focus on gays for now.

  66. #182775
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:27 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    So, Rusty, you are admitting you are hijacking this thread and making it about gays?

  67. #182786
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:31 pm, terrig said:

    Well Rusty, I think it’s incumbent for one to know where you come from. When one has no problem with killing well what’s left to have a problem with? Personally, I have no problem with Civil Unions but marriage should be reserved for a man and a woman. I would venture a guess you think that is wrong too. I served in the military with homosexuals and everything was fine until Clinton a dim, came in with the “don’t ask, don’t tell” nonsense. That policy has made things more difficult for gays who would like to serve. The clintons are clueless when it comes to the military, they loathe them.

  68. #182790
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:34 pm, Rusty said:

    Ugh. Rusty, my brother, who is gay understands the sanctity and definition of marriage being between man and woman. It’s the way God intended it.

    It takes some guts to ever dare speak for God. One thing God didn’t do was write our Constitution. (God may have inspired Leviticus, but I assure you you really don’t want to follow all the rules of Leviticus.) God also shouldn’t have a damn say in our policy decisions. Keep God out of it. If He/She wants to punish gays, that’s His/Her business, not ours. In the meantime, we owe it to our citizens to protect all of their rights. One of those rights is a right to marry.

    So you prefer that we have no military…I got it.

    If you’re suggesting that all Americans would have a problem with gay soldiers, then you hate the troops. Period. I assume that American troops have the capacity to deal with gay colleagues. You assume that they’re all homophobic. Please keep this in mind next time you accuse liberals of smearing our soldiers.

  69. #182793
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:36 pm, Rusty said:

    So, Rusty, you are admitting you are hijacking this thread and making it about gays?

    This is the best point you ever made. It’s closely related to the post since the “plant” was talking about this very issue, but point taken.

  70. #182811
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:43 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    It takes some guts to ever dare speak for God.

    Speaking for – no, referencing – yes. Nice try.

    One thing God didn’t do was write our Constitution. (God may have inspired Leviticus, but I assure you you really don’t want to follow all the rules of Leviticus.)God also shouldn’t have a damn say in our policy decisions. Keep God out of it. If He/She wants to punish gays, that’s His/Her business, not ours.

    You’ll have to take that up with the Founding Fathers.

    In the meantime, we owe it to our citizens to protect all of their rights. One of those rights is a right to marry.

    I missed that in the Bill of Rights. I’ll go back a re-read it. How did I manage to overlook that. Things to make you go hmmmm.

  71. #182812
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:45 pm, terrig said:

    Rusty, I am so tired of people like yourself who haven’t served persuming to know what those of us who have served think or do. Please spare me that you love the troops, you don’t. You probably think everyone in the military (since the implementation of an all volunteer force) is a neanderthal. No one is suggesting that there are homophobes in the military but you. Now, let’s get back to the point that CNN is nothing more than a dimocrap hack machine.

  72. #182817
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:49 pm, ajmontana said:

    How would you have wanted them to answer rusty? The way the good General asked the question was a tad rude in my book, and like I said Romney gave an honest answer. so, lets hear it I have an open mind.

  73. #182821
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    If you’re suggesting that all Americans would have a problem with gay soldiers, then you hate the troops.Period.

    I’m not suggesting that at all. Yeah, I’d like to see you prove that one…I hate the troops. You are too funny.

    Probably felt good telling a Republican that she hates the troops. I can guarantee you that you are the only person who knows me, who thinks that about me. Guarantee!

    “I assume that American troops have the capacity to deal with gay colleagues. You assume that they’re all homophobic. Please keep this in mind next time you accuse liberals of smearing our soldiers.”

    I concur. Again, I don’t have a problem with gays in the military. However, I am not in the military and I do not speak for those who are.

    I’d be much happier if instead of kicking gays out of the Army we’d just kick out anyone who has a problem serving with gays. That would be much more fair and reasonable to me.

    If you kick out everyone who had a problem with gays, perhaps not many people would be left. There is a reason for this being an issue. Hence, my comment regarding there not being much of a military left. It’s my opinion. I could be wrong…it wouldn’t be the first time. ;-)

  74. #182823
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:36 pm, Rusty said:

    This is the best point you ever made. It’s closely related to the post since the “plant” was talking about this very issue, but point taken.

    Not hardly – see post #12.

    Glad you got the point. I do not see anywhere where this post is about gays. You have a habit of building that “strawman”. As for the “strawman” I built, your words:

    People should have the right to marry who they choose.

    One of those rights is a right to marry.

    Well “people” belong to NAMBLA. Where do thier rights come into play? They are having sex with young boys and want to pass legislation to marry them. Do they not have the same “rights” as gays? The question was a set-up on my part to try and get past the fog in you head about “rights”. Sometimes “rights” harm people.

    Enough said.

    Now, would you like to debate about CNN and their clever ability to pick, out of thousands of posts, these plants?

  75. #182825
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:52 pm, ajmontana said:

    terri,
    let’s get back to the point that CNN is nothing more than a dimocrap hack machine.

    you left out the lying part terri….

  76. #182832
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:55 pm, Rusty said:

    No one is suggesting that there are homophobes in the military but you.

    Suggesting that military personnel, and 30pcs suggested ALL military personnel, would be uncomfortable serving with gays is the exact same thing as calling them homophobic.

    Please spare me that you love the troops, you don’t. You probably think everyone in the military (since the implementation of an all volunteer force) is a neanderthal.

    Yeah, my uncles, grandfathers, and friends are all total Neanderthals. Seriously, how dare you say those things? You’re inventing another straw man. I love the American military. And the soldiers I know are all wonderful people. (Granted, one uncle who served in Vietnam and Iraq is a little crazy.)

    As for the right to marry and this nonsense:

    I missed that in the Bill of Rights. I’ll go back a re-read it. How did I manage to overlook that. Things to make you go hmmmm.

    Loving v. Virginia. You knew I would respond with this, right?

    “Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.”

  77. #182841
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:59 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Rusty post #76 bottom:

    Proof he cannot read and just wants to argue – once again – the gay issue.

    Gay = the new race?

  78. #182842
    On November 29th, 2007 at 12:59 pm, Rusty said:

    Now, would you like to debate about CNN and their clever ability to pick, out of thousands of posts, these plants?

    The military plant was unacceptable. Unacceptable enough for me to actually use the word “plant.” The worst part is that surely someone else asked the same question (albeit probably less eloquently).

    The other people aren’t plants. They’re private citizens asking questions that matter to them. We should be applauding them.

  79. #182843
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:00 pm, terrig said:

    Rusty, again I know you may respect your family members and you love them (I would hope you love your family), but overall you have an obvious disdain for those who aren’t related to you who happened to be in or have been in. How dare you imply that there are homophobes in the military as you did.
    Again, this is supposed to be about the lying, dimocrap, hack organization who is in the tank for the dims (thanks # 75, I forgot to add the lying part :) )!

  80. #182844
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:01 pm, OldGuy53 said:

    You know I hear all this stuff about gays and the military, usually it comes up more during peace time than war because what it really is is social experimentation. It has little or nothing to do with anything else.
    But what the heck I’ll play.
    The military truly has only two purposes, to kill people and break things, any gay man or woman who wishes to do those things has a right to join and do so.
    What they don’t have a right to do is advertise their predilection.
    It seems to me that the thrust of the agenda here is forcing acceptance of a life style, not what is in the best interest of the military.
    Gay men and women seem more interested in promoting their own self identification and individualism.
    This flies in the face of cohesion and team work.
    There are lives at stake here, if individuals can’t conform to unit thinking they endanger their fellow soldiers.
    It seems to me gay men and women need to alter their perspective, not the military.

  81. #182848
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:05 pm, max said:

    Gay = the new race?

    as in “the new black?” :)

  82. #182850
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:05 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    “Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.”

    …”a person of the same gender.” I don’t happen to see that in there.

    I’m done indulging you. You could careless about the truth.

  83. #182853
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:07 pm, Rusty said:

    How dare you imply that there are homophobes in the military as you did.

    What!? I did the exact opposite. I am suggesting that the vast majority of service members would have no problem with gays in the military. That’s the gist of my argument!

    I said I would prefer gay service members to homophobic service members and 30pcs said that would leave no one. He’s the one you should have a beef with, not me.

  84. #182854
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:08 pm, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    Rusty:Maybe in your state. But when I voted in the 2004 primary, I, a registered Democrat, voted for McCain in the GOP primary.

    The dem’s way: vote early and vote often

  85. #182857
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:09 pm, Rusty said:

    And yes 30pcs I am aware that Loving deals with race and not sexual orientation. But the same Constitutional reasoning applies. “Because God said so” is an incredibly unconvincing argument.

    By the way, what are your feelings on the 13th Amendment. That amendment flies in the face of Leviticus, the same book where God denounces homosexuality.

  86. #182860
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:10 pm, terrig said:

    Rusty, as the Old Guy said the military is not a social experimental lab. We like to break things and if need be kill people. We’re not there to make gays feel good about themselves anymore than we are there to make people proud of what they have accomplished in their training and service to this country. Again, this is about CNN and their absolute joke of a debate.

  87. #182861
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:10 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Rusty – Firstly, I’m a She not a He.

    Secondly, I do not think that at all. I think you need to get a grip and quit using me to knock down an argument.

  88. #182868
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    And yes 30pcs I am aware that Loving deals with race and not sexual orientation. But the same Constitutional reasoning applies.

    That’s your interpretation. You’ll probably find some liberal activist judge who agrees but you both would be wrong.

    “Because God said so” is an incredibly unconvincing argument.

    That too is your opinion. The Founding Fathers argument didn’t do it for you either, huh? Well, I am not sure what will.

    By the way, what are your feelings on the 13th Amendment. That amendment flies in the face of Leviticus, the same book where God denounces homosexuality.

    Weren’t you warned about changing topics? Some people never learn.

  89. #182871
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:16 pm, Eric_CharlotteNC said:

    Rusty: I’d be much happier if instead of kicking gays out of the Army we’d just kick out anyone who has a problem serving with gays. That would be much more fair and reasonable to me.

    There are serious reasons for this rule and any half witt would know that no matter what side of the argument you are on.
    And you want to kick people out because of their opinion and thoughts. Yes, you are very concerned about civil rights arn’t you.

  90. #182872
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:17 pm, ajmontana said:

    30 pcs of silver said:
    Rusty – Firstly, I’m a She not a He.

    And a dang fine looking she indeed… 8)

  91. #182880
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:22 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Thanks AJ.

  92. #182885
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Rusty,

    It is obvious you no nothing about the Bible.

    1 Corinthians 6:9
    1 Timothy 1:10

    There are more.

    So, you stop giving us Your take on GOD!

  93. #182888
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Easy AJ, she is married.

    I do agree with you though!

  94. #182897
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:31 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Soap, exactly.

    Rusty said:

    Keep God out of it.

    But he comes right back with his usage of God and showcases his very limited knowledge on the Bible.

  95. #182899
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:32 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    That should have read “knowledge of the bible.

    thanks Soap!

  96. #182903
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:34 pm, gollumclone said:

    I love it. Every conservative site I’ve visited today has trolls defending CNN and chastising Pubs for faulting the choice of questioners. Can you imagine how shrillary’s thugs would react to anything planted by the VRWC?

    In other news my esteemed congressman L3 Wexler sent out questionaire today (your tax dollars at work)….Impeachment- Should Congress hold hearings on the Vice President?
    I know much of the general public here in Palm Beach county eats up the far left propaganda hook, line and sinker.

  97. #182911
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pm, rfbarker said:

    Hey, how about the John Edwards supporter planted among the “undecided” Republican voters who were in the focus group? Exactly how do you go from undecided Republican to John Edwards? Campbell Brown shares doofus honors with Anderson Cooper.

  98. #182934
    On November 29th, 2007 at 1:58 pm, bear1909 said:

    AC is a disgrace to the initials :lol:

  99. #182949
    On November 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    WB Bear.

    He is no you!

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