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		<title>By: 123456</title>
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		<dc:creator>123456</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ada828bb9a137dd51b29</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sfcmac</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-187236</link>
		<dc:creator>sfcmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shivv: Ever heard of common sense? Apparently neither has the TSA.</description>
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		<title>By: HeatherRadish</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-185987</link>
		<dc:creator>HeatherRadish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My concern is that too many people take out their frustration on the rank and file who are just trying to do a job and make a living.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just following orders?

Where have I heard that before?

Scorn for sheeple aside, there&#039;s something horribly wrong with a system that doesn&#039;t allow the &quot;rank and file&quot; to call in higher-ups who are empowered to make decisions when faced with a delicate situation, like an honor guard escorting a fallen comrade on his fallen journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My concern is that too many people take out their frustration on the rank and file who are just trying to do a job and make a living.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just following orders?</p>
<p>Where have I heard that before?</p>
<p>Scorn for sheeple aside, there&#8217;s something horribly wrong with a system that doesn&#8217;t allow the &#8220;rank and file&#8221; to call in higher-ups who are empowered to make decisions when faced with a delicate situation, like an honor guard escorting a fallen comrade on his fallen journey.</p>
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		<title>By: T J Green</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-185924</link>
		<dc:creator>T J Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment #18, 22 and 58 Follow-Up:&lt;/em&gt;
A happy-face grin is not required.  I recommend the classic &quot;don&#039;t even think about it&quot; stare - the antithesis of the &quot;It&#039;s a Small World After All&quot; Disney Happy Tourist face.

Regarding fake IDs, until there is some sort of verification process the notion of &quot;real&quot; vs. &quot;fake&quot; is illusory; current procedures offer no security.

At two airports women in my party were ordered to remove coats, sweaters or sweatshirts before the FIRST pass through the walk-thru metal detectors.  My modest daughter had to remove both coat and sweatshirt and was embarrassed to strip to her T-shirt.  My wife was also pulled aside and required to remove multiple layers of clothing.  I will never again allow my family to be split up into multiple &quot;inspection&quot; lines again in this fashion.  It is clear to me that TSA takes full advantage of people who appear to be malleable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment #18, 22 and 58 Follow-Up:</em><br />
A happy-face grin is not required.  I recommend the classic &#8220;don&#8217;t even think about it&#8221; stare &#8211; the antithesis of the &#8220;It&#8217;s a Small World After All&#8221; Disney Happy Tourist face.</p>
<p>Regarding fake IDs, until there is some sort of verification process the notion of &#8220;real&#8221; vs. &#8220;fake&#8221; is illusory; current procedures offer no security.</p>
<p>At two airports women in my party were ordered to remove coats, sweaters or sweatshirts before the FIRST pass through the walk-thru metal detectors.  My modest daughter had to remove both coat and sweatshirt and was embarrassed to strip to her T-shirt.  My wife was also pulled aside and required to remove multiple layers of clothing.  I will never again allow my family to be split up into multiple &#8220;inspection&#8221; lines again in this fashion.  It is clear to me that TSA takes full advantage of people who appear to be malleable.</p>
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		<title>By: Subsailor688</title>
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		<dc:creator>Subsailor688</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I will never fly on another commercial airliner, ever.</description>
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		<title>By: CowboyBebop</title>
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		<dc:creator>CowboyBebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a trainer and instructor for a private contractor that works under TSA at a major airport.  People are allowed two passes through the walk-through metal detector.

It is indeed easier to take the jacket and whatever else off than be hand wanded.  We have a lot of rules that plain don&#039;t make sense.  We have an SOP that is overwritten to the extreme and a lot of the directives we get are always to be &quot;respectful&quot; of other cultures and religions yet we don&#039;t get those type of directives with service men.

We&#039;re in a catch 22 really.  If we &quot;go easy&quot; on service men in uniform or grandmas, and then we fail internal covert tests using people in these areas then we get raked over the coals.  If we don&#039;t go easy on them, we&#039;re raked over the coals.

Frankly, when it comes to a government bureaucracy like this we&#039;re not allowed to use much common sense.  And we&#039;re always looking over our shoulders because we are constantly being tested.  Add to the fact that you have some people working for TSA that if you give them just the slight bit of power, it goes to their heads and abuse it.

It&#039;s not an easy job and a lot of TSOs get burned out.  I once worked a shift on the floor that I was literally cussed and sworn at SIX times on SIX separate occasions.  By the time the last two came around I just stood there and took it.  Yes, I could have called for a supervisor but what would have been the point?  The people were just upset about the rules.

Look at it this way:  I&#039;m a speed demon on the road.  When I&#039;m on the freeway I generally go a minimum of 80mph.  I think the 65mph speed limit is stupid.  But the rule is that if I get caught going that 80mph I&#039;m going to get pulled over and get a speeding ticket.  Do I think it&#039;s stupid and the fine exorbitant?  Yes!  But those are the rules.

And we&#039;re never going to confiscate anything from you.  We don&#039;t have that authority.  You always have the option of either abandoning it or taking it out to the unsecured area and doing with it whatever you so choose, unless of course it&#039;s something such as a firearm.  In that circumstance, the law enforcement will take over and decide what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a trainer and instructor for a private contractor that works under TSA at a major airport.  People are allowed two passes through the walk-through metal detector.</p>
<p>It is indeed easier to take the jacket and whatever else off than be hand wanded.  We have a lot of rules that plain don&#8217;t make sense.  We have an SOP that is overwritten to the extreme and a lot of the directives we get are always to be &#8220;respectful&#8221; of other cultures and religions yet we don&#8217;t get those type of directives with service men.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in a catch 22 really.  If we &#8220;go easy&#8221; on service men in uniform or grandmas, and then we fail internal covert tests using people in these areas then we get raked over the coals.  If we don&#8217;t go easy on them, we&#8217;re raked over the coals.</p>
<p>Frankly, when it comes to a government bureaucracy like this we&#8217;re not allowed to use much common sense.  And we&#8217;re always looking over our shoulders because we are constantly being tested.  Add to the fact that you have some people working for TSA that if you give them just the slight bit of power, it goes to their heads and abuse it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an easy job and a lot of TSOs get burned out.  I once worked a shift on the floor that I was literally cussed and sworn at SIX times on SIX separate occasions.  By the time the last two came around I just stood there and took it.  Yes, I could have called for a supervisor but what would have been the point?  The people were just upset about the rules.</p>
<p>Look at it this way:  I&#8217;m a speed demon on the road.  When I&#8217;m on the freeway I generally go a minimum of 80mph.  I think the 65mph speed limit is stupid.  But the rule is that if I get caught going that 80mph I&#8217;m going to get pulled over and get a speeding ticket.  Do I think it&#8217;s stupid and the fine exorbitant?  Yes!  But those are the rules.</p>
<p>And we&#8217;re never going to confiscate anything from you.  We don&#8217;t have that authority.  You always have the option of either abandoning it or taking it out to the unsecured area and doing with it whatever you so choose, unless of course it&#8217;s something such as a firearm.  In that circumstance, the law enforcement will take over and decide what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: leepro</title>
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		<dc:creator>leepro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;re: #16 beenthere

Everything is the environment, gender, or race– white men are hated — they are, for example, the only group that qualifies for capitol punishment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;...capitol punishment.&quot;

Would that be as in being forced to continue living there... in the &lt;strong&gt;capitol&lt;/strong&gt;?

Or were you referring to &lt;strong&gt;capital&lt;/strong&gt; punishment, as in death penalty?

:?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>re: #16 beenthere</p>
<p>Everything is the environment, gender, or race– white men are hated — they are, for example, the only group that qualifies for capitol punishment.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;capitol punishment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would that be as in being forced to continue living there&#8230; in the <strong>capitol</strong>?</p>
<p>Or were you referring to <strong>capital</strong> punishment, as in death penalty?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-185772</link>
		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Congress debated the unionization issue when it created the Homeland Security Department, which now oversees the Transportation Security Administration. But in the end, Congress didn&#039;t decide whether agency employees should have collective-bargaining rights. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shivv, you are correct.  I thought the democraps in the congress prevailed.

As for contacting our members of congress, I received a response this morning from an aid to Congressman Jason Altmire (D-PA), usually a champion of veterans affairs, the response was that if you quote something from Michelle Malkin do not expect the congressman to answer.  I guess democrap congressmen are only concerned with issues from democrap citizens.  Not conservatives or republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Congress debated the unionization issue when it created the Homeland Security Department, which now oversees the Transportation Security Administration. But in the end, Congress didn&#8217;t decide whether agency employees should have collective-bargaining rights. </p></blockquote>
<p>Shivv, you are correct.  I thought the democraps in the congress prevailed.</p>
<p>As for contacting our members of congress, I received a response this morning from an aid to Congressman Jason Altmire (D-PA), usually a champion of veterans affairs, the response was that if you quote something from Michelle Malkin do not expect the congressman to answer.  I guess democrap congressmen are only concerned with issues from democrap citizens.  Not conservatives or republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Shivv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shivv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to tell you Zorro, but the TSA is not unionized. 

Like I said in my first post, I hate being in the position to defend the TSA despite my employment with them. As an organization it can only be considered dysfunctional. 

My concern is that too many people take out their frustration on the rank and file who are just trying to do a job and make a living. If you have a problem with how things are done, go higher. Call and write to your Congressional representatives. Call DHS, and TSA Head Kip Hawley in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to tell you Zorro, but the TSA is not unionized. </p>
<p>Like I said in my first post, I hate being in the position to defend the TSA despite my employment with them. As an organization it can only be considered dysfunctional. </p>
<p>My concern is that too many people take out their frustration on the rank and file who are just trying to do a job and make a living. If you have a problem with how things are done, go higher. Call and write to your Congressional representatives. Call DHS, and TSA Head Kip Hawley in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: deepdiver</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-185741</link>
		<dc:creator>deepdiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On December 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pm, 1frozenmigra said:

Stop the PC madness…..&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That pretty much sums up the situation.

There is a lot more that could be said, but 90% of it could be reduced to that statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On December 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pm, 1frozenmigra said:</p>
<p>Stop the PC madness…..</p></blockquote>
<p>That pretty much sums up the situation.</p>
<p>There is a lot more that could be said, but 90% of it could be reduced to that statement.</p>
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		<title>By: 1frozenmigra</title>
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		<dc:creator>1frozenmigra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who attacked us?  Were they citizens of the United States?  So, who should we be looking for?  Non-Citizens, for the most part, right?  Do we have a HUGE illegal alien problem in the United States?  YES!  So, why not roll both problems into one and solve it?

&lt;strong&gt;SOLUTION:&lt;/strong&gt;  Station Border Patrol and ICE agents along with CBP Officers at ALL major airports....They will work at the metal detectors at the security checkpoints (the exact same way as they did after 9/11, yet, this time, we do not allow the INS upper management to ORDER them not to arrest illegals...even from Iran...)

The Agents will ask EVERYONE who passes or wishes to pass the same exact question.....So, no profiling.....No Imam lawsuits....

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;What country were you born in and what RIGHT do you have TO BE IN and REMAIN in the United States LEGALLY?&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;  

This will allow them to catch all those here as overstays, here illegally because they entered illegally and to find those who are out of status.....LIKE MOST OF THE 9/11 HIJACKERS were....have Immigration Judges at the airport, if they are to be deported, trade their ticket in for one to their home country, put them on the plane, and C-ya!

This would make air travel safer, take a huge burden off the TSA and will shut down the use of air by all illegal aliens....Now, tie that into a system that allows the DHS to issue federal warrants for ALL illegal aliens, all Non-Immigrant visitors the very minute their visa expires....So, local police can discover them on traffic stops...when they run a record check on the driver/occupants....

Stop the PC madness.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who attacked us?  Were they citizens of the United States?  So, who should we be looking for?  Non-Citizens, for the most part, right?  Do we have a HUGE illegal alien problem in the United States?  YES!  So, why not roll both problems into one and solve it?</p>
<p><strong>SOLUTION:</strong>  Station Border Patrol and ICE agents along with CBP Officers at ALL major airports&#8230;.They will work at the metal detectors at the security checkpoints (the exact same way as they did after 9/11, yet, this time, we do not allow the INS upper management to ORDER them not to arrest illegals&#8230;even from Iran&#8230;)</p>
<p>The Agents will ask EVERYONE who passes or wishes to pass the same exact question&#8230;..So, no profiling&#8230;..No Imam lawsuits&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;What country were you born in and what RIGHT do you have TO BE IN and REMAIN in the United States LEGALLY?</strong>&#8221;  </p>
<p>This will allow them to catch all those here as overstays, here illegally because they entered illegally and to find those who are out of status&#8230;..LIKE MOST OF THE 9/11 HIJACKERS were&#8230;.have Immigration Judges at the airport, if they are to be deported, trade their ticket in for one to their home country, put them on the plane, and C-ya!</p>
<p>This would make air travel safer, take a huge burden off the TSA and will shut down the use of air by all illegal aliens&#8230;.Now, tie that into a system that allows the DHS to issue federal warrants for ALL illegal aliens, all Non-Immigrant visitors the very minute their visa expires&#8230;.So, local police can discover them on traffic stops&#8230;when they run a record check on the driver/occupants&#8230;.</p>
<p>Stop the PC madness&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-185651</link>
		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not being cynical today, am I?</description>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/01/tsa-horror-story-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-185650</link>
		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop the military, stop gramma, stop jr., let the Middle Easterner thhrough.  Gotta keep sensitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop the military, stop gramma, stop jr., let the Middle Easterner thhrough.  Gotta keep sensitive.</p>
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		<title>By: How Many TSA Screeners Does It Take To Blow Up A Plane?</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Many TSA Screeners Does It Take To Blow Up A Plane?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malking:  I don’t think things can get more screwed up with airport [...]</description>
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