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		<title>By: There is NOT Always Parity. &#171; Lemur King&#8217;s Folly</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-371480</link>
		<dc:creator>There is NOT Always Parity. &#171; Lemur King&#8217;s Folly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin on Iran and the NIE. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ray Robison:  Pointing out the obvious to the oblivious</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-192544</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Robison:  Pointing out the obvious to the oblivious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New NIE determines Mars has stopped its&#039; plasma weapons program...&lt;/strong&gt;

Because somebody had to do it:...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>New NIE determines Mars has stopped its&#8217; plasma weapons program&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Because somebody had to do it:&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Iran Wins this Round &#171; Axis of Right</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-188200</link>
		<dc:creator>Iran Wins this Round &#171; Axis of Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] remember any significant events in the Mideast that took place in 2003?  Hmm&#8230;  Oh yeah!  The Iraq War began!  So apparently, not only did Libya give up their WMD program that year, but Iran allegedly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] remember any significant events in the Mideast that took place in 2003?  Hmm&#8230;  Oh yeah!  The Iraq War began!  So apparently, not only did Libya give up their WMD program that year, but Iran allegedly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jamesgreenidge</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187794</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesgreenidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;It&#039;s not A Direct Attack From Iran We Ought Worry About&lt;/strong&gt;

Iran slipping nuke bombs or materials to terrorists under the table &quot;no fingerprints!&quot; style is the greatest threat here, not direct action via missiles, because there are so many players who also would love to put us away to get lost in -- including Russia and China, who I wouldn&#039;t put above to turning their backs on alerting us if they did find out about such a terrorist plot.

James Greenidge
Queens New York</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It&#8217;s not A Direct Attack From Iran We Ought Worry About</strong></p>
<p>Iran slipping nuke bombs or materials to terrorists under the table &#8220;no fingerprints!&#8221; style is the greatest threat here, not direct action via missiles, because there are so many players who also would love to put us away to get lost in &#8212; including Russia and China, who I wouldn&#8217;t put above to turning their backs on alerting us if they did find out about such a terrorist plot.</p>
<p>James Greenidge<br />
Queens New York</p>
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		<title>By: Shimshon 9</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187647</link>
		<dc:creator>Shimshon 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;There must be more to the US backflip on Iran...&lt;/strong&gt;

The new US National Intelligence Estimate on Iran,  realistically ends any possibility of military action against the Islamist nation and also undermines the movement for tough sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program&#8230;.
In effect Washington has...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>There must be more to the US backflip on Iran&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The new US National Intelligence Estimate on Iran,  realistically ends any possibility of military action against the Islamist nation and also undermines the movement for tough sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program&#8230;.<br />
In effect Washington has&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A NEWT ONE</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187579</link>
		<dc:creator>A NEWT ONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blue Handed...&lt;/strong&gt;

Every time I think nothing will surprise me anymore, the Leftinistra, such as Matthew Yglesias, manages to take my breath away all over again....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blue Handed&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Every time I think nothing will surprise me anymore, the Leftinistra, such as Matthew Yglesias, manages to take my breath away all over again&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Iranian Intentions &#171; The View from Alexandria</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187551</link>
		<dc:creator>Iranian Intentions &#171; The View from Alexandria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4, 2007 by philo    The newly released National Intelligence Estimate claims that Iran gave up its efforts to obtain nuclear weapons in 2003&#8212;not coincidentally, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187437</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty solid intel when you intercept a phonecon between two Rev Guard generals who reference a shuttered nuke program.

You can&#039;t look at this as just another attempt by administration opponents to undermine policy. If you read what&#039;s been declassified, I think the conclusion they reached was reasonable - Iran stopped those parts of their nuclear program dealing exclusively with bomb making while they continue other parts that are very useful to both running a reactor and building a bomb.

BTW - this is probably what we would see if they were close to being able to build a weapon. If they already have a design for a bomb, for instance, they don&#039;t need a bomb design department active anymore. Once they learn how to enrich uranium on an industrial scale to weapons grade levels, all they have to do is take the design department out of mothballs and within a couple of months, they have a bomb.

What looks like an inactive program may actually be a program just waiting for Highly Enriched Uranium to complete the project.

But this scenario is for later when they get a lot closer to perfecting the fuel cycle. Right now, the Iranians probably shut down the aspects of their program dealing exclusively with bomb making prior to perfecting any design or delivery system. This is the basis for the extended time period for when they would be technologically capable of making a bomb. 2011 sounds better than 2013 if only because they&#039;ve come a long way in centrifuge technology.

We do have time and should put it to good use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty solid intel when you intercept a phonecon between two Rev Guard generals who reference a shuttered nuke program.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t look at this as just another attempt by administration opponents to undermine policy. If you read what&#8217;s been declassified, I think the conclusion they reached was reasonable &#8211; Iran stopped those parts of their nuclear program dealing exclusively with bomb making while they continue other parts that are very useful to both running a reactor and building a bomb.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; this is probably what we would see if they were close to being able to build a weapon. If they already have a design for a bomb, for instance, they don&#8217;t need a bomb design department active anymore. Once they learn how to enrich uranium on an industrial scale to weapons grade levels, all they have to do is take the design department out of mothballs and within a couple of months, they have a bomb.</p>
<p>What looks like an inactive program may actually be a program just waiting for Highly Enriched Uranium to complete the project.</p>
<p>But this scenario is for later when they get a lot closer to perfecting the fuel cycle. Right now, the Iranians probably shut down the aspects of their program dealing exclusively with bomb making prior to perfecting any design or delivery system. This is the basis for the extended time period for when they would be technologically capable of making a bomb. 2011 sounds better than 2013 if only because they&#8217;ve come a long way in centrifuge technology.</p>
<p>We do have time and should put it to good use.</p>
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		<title>By: blacktygrrrr</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187357</link>
		<dc:creator>blacktygrrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name of the report is the NIE, not the NIC.

NIE = NI ESTIMATE.
NIC = NI CERTAINTY.

Anybody that thinks this report should be used to engage in useless protracted diplomacy is fooling themselves. 

Norman Podhoretz understands that it is an issue of who will bomb who first. I prefer to live.

Respectfully,

eric www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name of the report is the NIE, not the NIC.</p>
<p>NIE = NI ESTIMATE.<br />
NIC = NI CERTAINTY.</p>
<p>Anybody that thinks this report should be used to engage in useless protracted diplomacy is fooling themselves. </p>
<p>Norman Podhoretz understands that it is an issue of who will bomb who first. I prefer to live.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>eric <a href="http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187356</link>
		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A common theme here: if a national intelligence estimate disagrees with my theory, its the national intelligence estimate that&#039;s wrong.  That failure probably is the result of liberals and America haters within the intelligence community.  

That attitude might work for you, but think how it looks to others.  Think about libs who refuse to believe Iraq is getting less violent despite all the reports that it is.  You want them to believe intelligence estimates you like, but you refuse to believe intelligence estimates they like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common theme here: if a national intelligence estimate disagrees with my theory, its the national intelligence estimate that&#8217;s wrong.  That failure probably is the result of liberals and America haters within the intelligence community.  </p>
<p>That attitude might work for you, but think how it looks to others.  Think about libs who refuse to believe Iraq is getting less violent despite all the reports that it is.  You want them to believe intelligence estimates you like, but you refuse to believe intelligence estimates they like.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Podhoretz&#8217;s &#8216;Dark Suspicion&#8217;: Intel Community Trying To Sabotage Bush With NIE</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187147</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Podhoretz&#8217;s &#8216;Dark Suspicion&#8217;: Intel Community Trying To Sabotage Bush With NIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Malkin: &#8220;What&#8217;s not making headlines (the certainty that Iran indeed had a nuke program) is as telling as what is making news (the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Malkin: &#8220;What&#8217;s not making headlines (the certainty that Iran indeed had a nuke program) is as telling as what is making news (the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-187048</link>
		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the Israelis will do the jobs Americans won&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least the Israelis will do the jobs Americans won&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-186944</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;N-I-E&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;No Idiot Excluded&lt;/strong&gt;

How many times does the misnamed intellegence community have to miss the elephant in the tent before
a) we all finally wake up
      or
b) they actually gather correct info

The CIA regulars have been at war with our president since the beginning. How convenient that the NIE says Iran is no threat. 
&lt; waiting for the mushroom cloud over Israel... 5-4-3... &gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>N-I-E</em></strong><br />
<strong>No Idiot Excluded</strong></p>
<p>How many times does the misnamed intellegence community have to miss the elephant in the tent before<br />
a) we all finally wake up<br />
      or<br />
b) they actually gather correct info</p>
<p>The CIA regulars have been at war with our president since the beginning. How convenient that the NIE says Iran is no threat.<br />
&lt; waiting for the mushroom cloud over Israel&#8230; 5-4-3&#8230; &gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Blind_Mule</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blind_Mule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;brooklyn red said: 
OK, Iran has fuel but no bombs. The North Koreans have the technology to make bombs but have supposedly stopped making fuel. They both have missile tech.

Where could Korean bombs &amp; Iranian fuel hook up? I don’t know, maybe Syria?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve been thinkin the same thing since Isreal bombed Syria.

The Iranians have the missle tech their missle&#039;s don&#039;t fly around in circle&#039;s and crash into the sea.
The Korean&#039;s know how to and may have warheads.
Marrie the two in Syria and what do you have?
Answer: The total annihilation of Isreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>brooklyn red said:<br />
OK, Iran has fuel but no bombs. The North Koreans have the technology to make bombs but have supposedly stopped making fuel. They both have missile tech.</p>
<p>Where could Korean bombs &amp; Iranian fuel hook up? I don’t know, maybe Syria?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinkin the same thing since Isreal bombed Syria.</p>
<p>The Iranians have the missle tech their missle&#8217;s don&#8217;t fly around in circle&#8217;s and crash into the sea.<br />
The Korean&#8217;s know how to and may have warheads.<br />
Marrie the two in Syria and what do you have?<br />
Answer: The total annihilation of Isreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; President Bush faces the press and Congress; Update On NIE: &#8220;They had the program, they halted the program&#8230;and they could restart it;&#8221; Update: Bush botches Saudi gang rape question</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/03/iran-and-the-nie/comment-page-1/#comment-186844</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; President Bush faces the press and Congress; Update On NIE: &#8220;They had the program, they halted the program&#8230;and they could restart it;&#8221; Update: Bush botches Saudi gang rape question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conference at 10am to discuss spending battles and other legislative conflicts with the Dems. The Iran nuke NIE will also be a hot topic. Stay tuned for the show. (Update: All the dinosaur networks will be [...]</description>
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