Comments on: Phoenix moves to repeal illegal alien sanctuary policy

By: doppelganglander

doppelganglander — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:10:10 +0000

Here's some news from the southeast: Illegal immigrant arrests in South quadruple

Immigration agents in the southeast who specialize in tracking fugitives arrested four times the number of illegal immigrants in the 2007 reporting year as they did last year. That puts their Georgia/North Carolina territory third out of 24 teams in the nation that focus on fugitives, behind only Los Angeles and Miami, according to federal agents.

It's great that they're arresting these lawbreakers, but it's really disturbing that they're even here in the first place.

By: MirCat

MirCat — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:48:41 +0000

On December 4th, 2007 at 8:03 am, meatpieandtatters said:
How ironic that ground zero for illegal Islamists would rescind the stupid sanctuary policy? Is McCain starting to apply some heat to gain in the polls?

I was thinking the same thing. This happens, what, a day after ‘he got the message’?

I tell you, I’m surprised about Anchorage being a sanctuary city. Considering all the flights in from China, there’s how your spys are getting in.

- The Cat

By: Hannibal

Hannibal — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:03:23 +0000

#71- Possibly 20 million illegals now in this country and the best you can do is find an article on someone who appears to have come here legally and now is getting grief from the government bureaucracy for bad paperwork. The man is serving the U.S., has legal representation, has the military on his side, and appears to have other government departments helping him. It doesn’t appear that he is being hung out to dry. To infer that this has a lot to do with illegal immigration in general is pathetic. Also, since you do not personally know the character of those posting here, you should not presume to judge who has more love for this country than others.

By: TXRose

TXRose — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:23:57 +0000

The MSM don’t want people to know what is going on
on the borders. They want you to think these people
are simply walking in from Mexico without any hardship or without adversely affecting the U.S. in any
way. If there are hardships (on the illegals) it is all Our
fault because we are not furnishing food and water at
the border. We are not building highways and bridges
that would make it easier for them to come across.
Where we lived on the border, they could wade across
without getting wet above the knees, unless they fell down and for the longest time I couldn’t figure
out why they were called wet backs.
No, what is happening on the border is not in line with the MSMs idea of what illegals are and what they are doing and how they are impacting the U.S.

By: Laree

Laree — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:09:57 +0000

TXRose,

That is what I meant in my comment #55 There is nothing compassionate about human trafficking, not from start to finish. If people were really wanting to be humane, they would never let fellow human beings be exposed to some of the most monsterous practices…that don’t get reported on enough in the MSM. Remember we had a tractor trailer full of people, outside of Victoria, that were locked in and left to die. Those folks went to prison but it didn’t stop anything.

This is the Indian Reservation, I was referring to, this is a report about a 1 year ago. I don’t see any current news on what steps are being taken about any of this Tribes concerns. Their concerns – concern all of us. Talk about people burying their heads in the sand. Arizona is John McCain country what is he doing?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20061022-9999-1n22tohono.html

By: TXRose

TXRose — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:58:57 +0000

I thought it was a name that I could not pronounce.
I could be wrong. I do know that the Arizona border
could not look any worse than the Texas border. It is
such a mess in places down there where they have set
up their tent and box, etc “citiies” and also on the
property on the border where they cross and just dump everything they don’t want. They also will kill
livestock and take a chunk out of the body to eat and
leave the rest there to rot. One of my cousins has that
problem on his land. He has had to electrify as much of his fence line as possible and they still get
through. He also has found bodies, some of them
small children (especially little girls that have been
gang raped) and babies. It is so horrible that the US
government and Mexican governments should put a stop to it for humane reasons.
One night he caught Mexican army personnel on his
land and they all played, “Quines mas macho,” with
their guns. By the time they were through he said he was sweating bullets because he knew he was
outgunned, but he and his three teenaged sons, with his daughter and wife in the house, were not
going to back down.

By: Laree

Laree — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:57:42 +0000

It was so long ago I can’t remember if it was this Indian Tribe representatives, that were on the Factor. Does anyone else remember that segment? This link below is from 2004

http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_pictures/invasion_tohono.html

By: Laree

Laree — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:36:04 +0000

TXRose,

The Pima reservation? Isn’t that the Indian Tribe. I remember representatives on the Factor, so long ago I couldn’t remember the time frame, complaining that the tribe, had like 25 law enforcement, and that they complained to the Federal Govt for help.
The Federal Govt., is the part of the Govt involved with Indian Afairs.. The same Federal Govt., that isn’t enforcing our laws, in the first place. The gist of the interview amounted to them complaining, showing photos of the distruction of the desert, the huge amount of garbage left behind. They said, all the Federal Govt., did was give them some money to clean it up! I don’t think it has been cleaned up yet? Even if they did clean it up, more will come through and create more waste. There were members of the tribe living on both sides of the border. Still that doesn’t make Mexicans or “ANYONE” else coming in through the reservation legal. The ANYONE else is who I am really concerned about so were people who were representing the tribe. They were not just complaining about the garbage they were complaining that the human trafficking was so heavy, there was no way they could police it all by themselves. To this day I don’t know if they have gotten any help from their Govt., that they sent a warning out to..which amounted to me, as an SOS a distress signal.

By: TK-421

TK-421 — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:33:25 +0000

Not all Illegals are out to cut off your head and rob you, I agree many of them need to be sent back, but our immigration needs a full overhaul. Some people DO want to be Americans, some have no Criminal Record, but because of stupid un-needed procedures, many simply can’t affoard to do it, and must live in fear. People like those in CA that cut our flag down and placed up the Mexican flag need to go back, now a family that comes here, have kids, pay there dues, yet can’t affoard the bill, yet are pro american and have a child here should stay. Or even if its someone that lives here, and is loyal and not using Goverment programs. Of course, hell with em, pack em all up, place the kids where ever, END IMMIGRATION.

Before many of you get high and mighty on me, read this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2220866,00.html

, I doubt it will be on this site, but here we have a man thats fought with distiction for the US and due to Goverment BS he may be sent off. A man that has more honor, and more love for this Country than many “Citizens” even some of you.

By: TXRose

TXRose — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:57:19 +0000

I have read that part of Arizona’s problem is the
Tohono Odham (?) reservation which crosses the border of Arizona into Mexico. Supposedly a lot of
illegals come through that way and the border patrol
cannot stop them because it is reservation land. Now,
being part Cherokee, I do understand Indian rights, but, I also understand invasion, and this is exactly what is happening to our country.
It all started in the 60s with the first amnesty. Then, we had another amnesty in the 80s. Everytime there is an amnesty or talk of an amnesty,
here THEY come! Word does go out in Mexico and
Central America. However, Mexicans are just the
largest and most visible Ilegals. We have illegals from every country on earth in our country.

By: Laree

Laree — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:44:45 +0000

uhangtight,

The Commanchee were winning when they fought the Apache, and as history states, there wasn’t anything that compared to an Apache warrior in battle. I have heard on cablenews outlets maybe two American Indians, in blips, point out, that the people from the south, have invaded before. I guess the facts are not pertinent SMILE.

By: TXRose

TXRose — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:40:12 +0000

Sometimes I think that “they” are ignoring Mexican
history because “they” talk about European invaders
taking our country away from Mexico. Well, excuse me, but the last time that I looked, Spain was in
Europe and Mexicans are Spaniards + Mayan, Aztec,
etc. In other words, for Mexicans, as Pogo said, “We
looked at the enemy and it is us.” They are their own
invaders.
(I may not have quoted Pogo word for word..and older couple we know are always quoting him).

By: uhangtight

uhangtight — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:37:52 +0000

They were formidable opponents who developed strategies for fighting on horseback with traditional weapons. Warfare was a major part of Comanche life. The dreaded Comanche raids into

Mexico, going as far south as Central America, traditionally took place during the full moon, when the Comanche could see to ride at night. This led to the term "Comanche Moon," during which the Comanche raided for horses, captives, weapons, and simply to spread terror.[9]

By: uhangtight

uhangtight — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:22:32 +0000

as well as the apache..

By: uhangtight

uhangtight — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:21:27 +0000

Laree, #61 is right, the native indians in texas, new mexico, arizona and california have considerable differences as to ‘who was here first’. Without the Spanish (white men from Europe) they (Mexicans) would not have been able to come across. They would have to fight the Cherokee or the Commanchee, tough warriors all, which they could not before without the ‘tools’ of the Europeans. This blatant re-writing of history will hopefully not work much longer.