The beating on the Baltimore bus: What if the races had been reversed?
Victim Sarah Kreager Photo via The Examiner.
If the races had been reversed in this monstrous crime, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would already have booked their private planes on the first flight out to Baltimore. Via The Examiner:
As Sarah Kreager, 26, tried to sit down on a Baltimore City bus Tuesday, police say, a middle-schooler told her she couldn’t. When she attempted to take another seat, a middle-schooler wouldn’t let her. Finally, according to police, Kreager just sat down.
She was “immediately attacked” by nine students — three females and six males — from Robert Poole Middle School. They punched and kicked her at 2:59 p.m. at the intersection of 33rd Street and Chestnut Avenue, according to Maryland Transit Administration police.
Kreager was dragged off the bus and her boyfriend, Troy Ennis, attempted to get her back on, police said.
She sustained “serious injuries” and had to be transported to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to a police report.
Examiner.com Related Articles:Kreager suffered two broken bones in her left eye socket, police said.
“She had eye muscles that were damaged,” a police report states. “She had deep lacerations on the top of her head and another above her neck.”
Two seats and the bus’ rear glass were destroyed during the attack, police said.
The bus driver on the No. 27 line quickly called police, who responded and arrested the nine juveniles, said Jawauna Greene, an MTA police spokeswoman.
All nine suspects, ages 14 and 15, were arrested and charged with aggravated assault…
…The suspects in the incident are black. The victim is white, according to the police report.
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Now that’s a thread count!!
500 “thread count”, that’s a good one.
But it wasn’t as soft and smooth as I would have expected.
Oh, and Pierre, every bigot that I ever met had stats and rationale to justify their bigotry, you are no different.
It would be nice to end this thread with you clearly stating what you think of black people instead of hiding behind FBI stats and IQ scores.
Just say it, you know you want to. C’mon, it’s not like anyone here is going to think less of you. Heck, if you managed to muster the testicular fortitude to say what you really mean instead of hiding behind your mama’s skirts, then we might just think a teensy bit more of you.
What do I think of Black men? I think that more of them commit murder than white men. More of them die of murder than white men.
Regarding IQ I think that if I see any obviously IQ challenged person walk up to me late at night when I am walking that I will be making sure my access to my weapon is unhindered.
Nearly all of my staff is black and a finer group of men and women I couldn’t ask for. They have a work ethic that puts nearly everyone else I have ever met to shame. They are loyal and deserve all my efforts to make sure that they are paid as well as I can manage.
You apparently don’t care that they are 6 times more likely to die of murder than whites. And you think you are a friend.
Btw the labels you throw around only work on the weakminded. While I am only average in intelligence even I am smart enough to know that sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt. The truth will set you free.
Hmmmm Pierre. That’s funny.
I happen to be of above average intelligence (at least that’s what the test scores say, test scores that you put so much stock in). So I guess that means (according to your posts above) that that you are more prone to violence than I am. I’ll watch out from now on, and if I see you approaching me on a dark street, I’ll make sure to lock and load.
It’s so wonderful that you care about “them” (apparently I don’t), and you imploy “them” too? Wow. You are so darn wonderful. I wonder if “they” would actually work for you if they knew what you thought of “them.”
They are a hard-working people aren’t they, and they have a darn good sense of rythm and man, can they dance. Too bad they’re so stupid and violent.
But I’m not worried about them. I know that as long as there are wonderful white men like you to take care of the poor brutes and keep them from killing each other, they will be just fine.
And, as far as “labels” are concerned, you’re calling certain people “black” aren’t you? Why are you doing that if you don’t like lables? Could it be because it’s what they are? Well, that’s why I call you a “bigot.”
And apparently you haven’t been paying attention. Several commenters here (including me) have acknowledged that blacks are more likely than whites to commit and be a victim of violent crimes. It’s just that those of us in the higer intelligence range see it as a cultural phenomenon instead of a genetic one.
You know that was obvious.
Well you should go into research and use that bigger brain of yours to disprove what others have already proved. Perhaps you think that you are even smarter than Dr. Watson?
The simple fact of the matter is, that if 9 13-15 year olld white boys and girls decided to start beating and kicking a black woman on a bus to the point that a bus window became broken, it continued out onto the street, the womans orbit was broken in several places which is incredibly difficult to do consodering the design of the bone structure of the orbit, and all done in front of other people including her boyfriend…and entirely different outcome would have occurred.
It is plainly obvious that there would be no doubt in anyone’s mind that there would be an outcry of “hate crime”. there would not be 500+ postings on this matter on this site discssing the pros and cons concerning race relations and whether or not blacks are genetically superior or inferior or whatever. We definately would not have been treated to the innerworkings of certain people’s prejudices towards both whites and blacks both. Yes, we have seen that there are those that post here on Michelle’s blog that deeply hate white peole as deeply as there are those that hate blacks and blame white for their problems as muc as there are those that blame blacks for crime. Both sets of people truly need to get help. I am fairly embarrassed for both of you. I am pretty comfortable in thinking this is nowhere near what our gentle hostess had in mind when she posed this question, but then when one asks a question related to race, what else will happen?
Anyway, this only goes to show what I have always said…a violent crime is always filled with hate. It is always a hate crime. This woman wanted to do nothing more than to sit down on a bus. These children would not allow her to and were being punks. Whether they were doing it to be just punks, or because they had been raised by their parents to treat all white people like they were dirt and to blame all their problems on white…as is common in a ghetto situation…remains to be seen, but the fact remains, she became the target of their daily fin, and they were looking for a target. In a “Rosa Parks” manner, she was tired and decided to ignore their ridiculousness and sat down anyway which, again in a Rosa parks style, changed her life forever. They pounced on her like animals. Not animals because they were black like some posters would like to believe, but because that is what people who would attack a truly innocent person are…rabid animals. Animals full of hate.
In my experience, I find it hard to imagine that the epithet “White Girl” or other types of terms like maybe “Cracka” or “honkey” or “snowflake” or similar types were uttered during the beat down. It would be nothing short of a miracle for that many enraged ethnic youths, with that much adrenaline flowing through their systems, who obviously use that type of street language all the time anyway, to not use it while beating this woman. As the mere use of the “n” word during the commision of a crime between a white person against a black person is enough to make it a hate crime, this would be more than enough to make this a hate crime in this case. However, I would imagine that the fact they used the intimidation of the sheer numbers of their group against her should also open them up to terrorism and intimidation charges as well. If anything, I would like to see them tried as adults with the hate crime enhancements.
Whether or not Weird Al and Jesse “Baby’s Momma” Jackson get invovled or not is irrelevant. Whether or not they speak out against the other kind of hate crime doesn’t matter to me. Obviously they don’t do it enough if at all. If they do and it is not carried by the networks or news stations, then it is hardly our fault for not knowing about it, but it definately is not because they are marching and rallying against it. The fact remains that they are not known for showing up and rallying against hate crimes against white people. Period. You can argue all you want about what they think and say, but actions speak louder than words, and they are sitting on their hands. Unless the person ahs a really great tan, they remain silent. There have been several attacks of this nature in the recent past. They have remained silent, as has the media. With the frenzy over the Jena 6 that included the BET appearance, the money donated and all the other foolishness, it is clear where the racism is. It is not with the whites. What I have read here has been a great deal of frustration mixed in with some real legitimate, down home, died in the wool racism. But there is some frustration as well.
Until such time as the PC police start treating such things as equal..either equating these “hate crimes” or abolishing the hate crime legislation all together due to the fact that it further separates the races and enhances istitutionalized racism at a fundamental level, or treats them equally, you will continue to get these types of reactions, and they will continue to get worse until there will be a huge backlash. Also, tthe media needs to report both types of attacks equally. They need to stop downplaying the black on white crimes and stop overplaying the white on black crime. The latter is done to enflame the public and the former to downplay it in order to hide the truth. Both are deceptive.
Again, everyone has a right to their opinion. Even those that are bigots and racists. In this country, you may not like it, but if someone does not like blacks or Mexicans or Italians or Martians, they have that right. Believe it or not, you do have to respect that. You may not agree with that, you may not like that, but as long as they are not out burning crosses or lynching people, you do have to respect them. It is called freedom. It is something we have men and women dying for right now. It is something you want them to respect you for. It is their opinion. Maybe they need to keep those opinions to themselves. However, they do not need to be thrown in jail for having them. I personally do not agree with those opinions. I personally find them repugnant. But hey, this is America, and until the Liberals hand it over to Islam, they still have the right to hate whomever they want…which is why I will continue to hate Liberals.
Retfireman
As usual, a very eloquent post that sums it all up perfectly. I went back to this thread in curiosity, I’m glad I did. Coincidentally, the reason I did was because, last night my son, who is at a college in a major city in Florida, called me, frightened out of his wits. He had been accosted by two black and one white youths, who were obviously looking for trouble. He was returning to his apartment from class at 8pm, going to have dinner with his girlfriend. The three youths started to beat on his car, and when he got out challenged him to a fight, he did the wise thing and got back in his car, but they gave chase and followed him to the girlfriend’s place, he got away, thankfully, without any more incident, but I dread to think what could have been. He told me he is afraid now to go out, this is another form of terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law.
From a Brit who has never even held a gun in her hand, I am seriously thinking of getting my son a gun and a weapons permit, it’s the only language this kind of thug understands.
That is the reason I purchased weapons.
I was held up by three Mexicans at gunpoint on Sunset at 4:30 in the Afternoon in Hollywood on a Sunday, placed behind a wall by the Warehouse record store with the gun to my head and a pregnant wife at home. I lived. I was jumped as a youth by three blacks at a mall and beaten and robbed. I was beat up down town when I was in my twenties by two blacks. I had my apartment broken into through my room mates window by a black uy while he was asleep in bed. And in May, my best friend was murdered by, what they believe to be, a Latino male and female.
Knock on wood, so far I have yet to have a reason to be prejudiced or racist towards white, and I do have reasons to be towards blacks and Mexicans/Latinos. I think I am doing pretty damn good in refraining from doing so. Basicaly, I have seen enough in my life both at work and off to realize people are just basically screwed up in general regardless of race and I have been in just as many dirtbag trashed up piece of filth houses with mattresses all over the floors that haven’t ever seen a vacuumm owende by whites as any other race. I think the cops on here can attest to that too.
It would be easier to either hate everyone or hate no one.
And hate takes up too much energy and time.
What is your point? That some mythical middle road is the way? That sticking your head in the sand about the predisposition of certain races towards violence is a better policy than being forwarned?
My point in all of this admittedly ugly talk is to point out some truths that are not widely known. What we do with that knowledge is another story but avoiding the knowledge seems to be very dangerous. The fact that blacks are 6 times more likely to die by murder than whites is a crucial fact. It should be widely known. Same same with the fact of blacks being 7 times more likely to murder. And many more times more likely to attack a white than a white is to attack a black man.
The moderate road of not talking about these sorts of statistics is not working.
If you had read any of my posts, you would have known my point. Instead, you cherry pick. You want to be a bigot and hate and be a racist, your choice. But if you want me to go along for the ride, you can take your littel red wagon and play elsewhere. You have a very narrow view of the world. You see only one side, and only choose to see only one side. My point is there are bad and violent whites, bad and violent mexicans and bad and vilent blacks. You just are focusing on one of them and the fact of these posts are that the media is only punishing whites. So, racist Pierre, we could talk about the French if you like…but then that would start an entirely different discussion. Now again, go peddle your wagon elsewhere, you won’t bait me into your world of hate. Read all my posts, or just go home.
I am white, and attended an 80% black High school in the mid to late 80’s… They had “white-out day”, which was traditionally the last day of school before any holiday or vacation. Any white that showed up on white-out day was beaten by as many blacks as could surround him (but no the white girls.. they all dated blacks, I guess for protection…) One white student, his first year, was going for perfect attendance. Didn’t believe us. Showed up on white-out day. He was chased all over the school by literally hundreds of students. THey ran him off the top of the gym… He died. Nobody ever heard about it. I wonder why?