The beating on the Baltimore bus: What if the races had been reversed?
Victim Sarah Kreager Photo via The Examiner.
If the races had been reversed in this monstrous crime, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would already have booked their private planes on the first flight out to Baltimore. Via The Examiner:
As Sarah Kreager, 26, tried to sit down on a Baltimore City bus Tuesday, police say, a middle-schooler told her she couldn’t. When she attempted to take another seat, a middle-schooler wouldn’t let her. Finally, according to police, Kreager just sat down.
She was “immediately attacked” by nine students — three females and six males — from Robert Poole Middle School. They punched and kicked her at 2:59 p.m. at the intersection of 33rd Street and Chestnut Avenue, according to Maryland Transit Administration police.
Kreager was dragged off the bus and her boyfriend, Troy Ennis, attempted to get her back on, police said.
She sustained “serious injuries” and had to be transported to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to a police report.
Examiner.com Related Articles:Kreager suffered two broken bones in her left eye socket, police said.
“She had eye muscles that were damaged,” a police report states. “She had deep lacerations on the top of her head and another above her neck.”
Two seats and the bus’ rear glass were destroyed during the attack, police said.
The bus driver on the No. 27 line quickly called police, who responded and arrested the nine juveniles, said Jawauna Greene, an MTA police spokeswoman.
All nine suspects, ages 14 and 15, were arrested and charged with aggravated assault…
…The suspects in the incident are black. The victim is white, according to the police report.
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9 versus 1 Ouch, I don’t think even Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee could survive that kind of beating.
And just think, the Jena 6 thugs were regarded as victims while the MSM didn’t even mention the victims name (BTW it is Justin Barker)
I hope these 9 kids are expelled from their school and spend the rest of their free time in a juvenille detention facility.
GSP
How soon do the protests for the Baltimore Nine begin?
But Jackson and Sharpton will be flying in - the 9 perps were black and in their [Jackson & Sharpton] eyes were owed this, at the very least should be released and apologized to for being detained.
Al and Jesse will be booking their private planes - for that last sentence being printed.
Sarah Kreager sounds like a white Rosa Parks…except Rosa Parks never received a beatdown for her choice of seats.
Gosh, this is sick. I don’t understand her boy friend. Why was he trying to get her on the bus? Was he traveling on the bus with her?
Tell me this isn’t a hate crime.
If Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton come out for this, it’ll be to try to rationalize this act of violence and why the perpetrators deserve leniency.
Silly Michelle…. of COURSE Jesse and Al will be flying to Baltimore ASAP. Ms Kreager simply fell down the steps of the bus. The nine kids had nothing to do with it. They’re only guilty of “riding a bus while black”.
What do you think would have happened if she or her boyfriend tried to defend themselves instead of taking a beating from 9 dysfunctional kids??
They better throw the book at these punks — otherwise, they’ll be back with an even greater criminal assault, possibly murder.
We have to severely punish such kids who have no respect for authority or for their fellow human beings.
Please Lord, don’t let them come before some leftist judge!
She shouldn’t have been wearing the noose pendant around her neck.
Can’t you just hear the chants from Je$$ie and $harpton now?
“Free the Baltimore City 9!”
I feel for this woman. She did not deserve a beating let alone the severe beating so received. Of course, arresting the perps is a racial issue isn’t it?
GRRRR. If only I had been there – we all would have been hurt!
I’ll tell you right now, the msm won’t talk about this at all. END OF STORY !
Omitted in the excerpt from the Examiner article above:
Hey, Juwanna. Let me help you out on this one. YES!
I doubt justice will be served regarding all of this, not when the victim is “the root of all evil” because of her skin color.
I’m sure the perps’ lawyers will be able to spin a tale of victimization that explains their actions.
I can’t wait to hear the juicy rationalizations from the race baiters.
My bet is they will play the inner city poverty angle.
BTW why isn’t her so called boy friend all beaten up? I don’t know about others, but “pity the poor fool” who lays a hand on my wife while I’m standing there.
Who had her back? Doesn’t sound like her boyfriend(?)did.
I can see the Baltimore City 9 making all kinds of money out of this, can’t you? Suing the city and the transit authority for false arrest. They couldn’t help it if she got in the way of their swinging arms, now, could they? Then they’ll be on TV, waving hundred-dollar bills around, smiling and joking.
This woman will never be the same again - I suspect she’ll never get on a bus again for the rest of her life, and I foresee serious mental issues. She’ll be afraid of the dark forever. But the BC9 won’t care - they had their fun.
What kind of parents would allow 14-year-olds to pound someone to a pulp simply because she wasn’t allowed to sit where she wanted to on a public bus!?
Don’t answer that. I already know the
answersexcuses.But seriously, were there no other adults on the bus to stop this nonsense? Would no one come to the aid of another? This reeks of a pre-meditated gang incident.
Let this continue, and it will fester, grow, and spread to every city and community in the nation. May God Almighty help us.
The BC9 had nothing against her. They hate bus seats and windows.
Hate crime…absolutely. (All crimes that involve violence are hate crimes…duh) However, white people are allowed to be victims of hate crimes because white people deserve it. Actually that is encouraged.
I should say sarcasm off but there is an element of truth to that.
anarchy is common here in this great ole’ land of USA. rule of law has been diluted, thanks to the liberals ‘fuzzy’ perception of the constitution among other things.
when ‘entitlement’ means you can commit attempted murder and you are justified because you are the right ‘color’ of skin, well we are sinking fast into a state of no return. and, they do not want vigilante law, but it will return if the authorities allow this anarchy to continue.
There really is a disturbing trend of gang girl violence … witness this week’s youtube vid on the A train… I see these roving thugettes all over the place in NYC… they clearly feel “empowered” and are vicious when roused…
And, yes, when it comes to protecting my wife and children, I will defend their lives and health. Come what may.
I do not like the “hate crime” laws, but since they have them…this seems just like a hate crime to me.
Teh balck are always tough when its 9 on 1, 6 on 1…whatever.
This is a clear and simple hate crime! There is NO excuse for what those youngsters did…none what-so-ever.
They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, no plea bargaining allowed. Their parents, who are responsible for their actions, should be sued, and held to account. This “gang” style attack should not be smoothed over as just some kids who lost control.
Don’t parents teach their children the difference between right and wrong anymore? This is reprehensible!!!
Seventy-five years ago, I was raised around ‘em. They haven’t changed a bit…no fun bein’ one ‘less yo’ axts like one!
I do belive there is a guy in texas that has the right awnser.
Quick, someone sign those kids on a contract with BET.
There is no longer anything like absolute right or wrong - where have you been for the past 20 or so years? It’s all relative - what’s right for me may not be right for you, but who cares? I’ll do it anyhow, and to hell with you!
I can’t imagine ever having been allowed to get away with anything even remotely resembling this when I was growing up. If I had, I wouldn’t have been able to sit down for at least a week.
seems like we’ll see some deleted posts real soon.
You beat me to the noose, Soap. Are we sure this wasn’t a gang initiation? That’s what it sounds like,
and as to parents..this is what Bill Cosby has been
talking about. These children have no parents only
people that gave birth to them and use them to get
another welfare check. Sorry if I sound cynical but I
have heard time and time again, “the gov’ment pays
you for havin’ these babies.”
I agree with MTNEER. Where was this so called boyfriend? Hell, if it was some stranger getting beaten, you can bet I’d have stomped theses little cretins. But then again, I would have given up my seat, so it would have been ok.
Just wait, if anything they’ll be all sorts of talk about how its just a reaction because these kids are going to school in a “traditionally racist neighborhood.” (i.e. Hamden) When I was at Hopkins, I heard this all the time.
Let’s not get distracted by wondering what a boyfriend, or adult passengers did, or didn’t do. This is ALL about the actions of nine thugs, who don’t deserve to be free to roam around like a pack of wild dogs!
When these animals decided to attack an adult, they removed themselves from the protection the law affords children. This is an adult crime, so try them as adults.
Someone didn’t get the memo. Black on white violence is no longer considered illegal in most of the country. Certainly in Jena there are no laws protecting white victims of violent crime.
Those who wonder about the boyfriend? If he had so much as scratched one of the little urchins while defending himself he would spend the rest of his life behind bars. That is why I now carry 2 weapons at all times. My legally concealed handgun, plus one more to drop.
Best kept secret in America, black racism.
So, Rev.Al…maybe it’s time to address the lie that Tawana told that caused an innocent white man’s demise.
Not sure you could get away with that in Balitmore. You’d spend more time in jail than the Bmore9.
Too bad Travis got himself banned…I would’ve loved to have heard his justification for the beating.
It sounds like another group of young sociopaths from the hood just marking their territory. Just like the poor kid beat down by the Jena 6 this poor woman was probably just asking for it for being white. Had the roles been reversed there is not doubt the race hustlers would have been all over this stoking the flames of racial hatred, marching in the streets, and making someone fork over some cash to enrich the cult of the victim.
This is a very disturbing trend a lady I work with provided a refuge to a teenage boy 2 weeks ago fleeing a group of about 20 punks from our local high school that were bulling and picking on anyone their own age not part of their specific click. The kid was really shook up and was unable to contact his parents on his cell phone and resorted to knocking on the nearest door for help. Kid was so scared he didn’t have the sense to call 911, but when seconds count the Police are only minutes away. The kid hung out in their living room until the coast was clear and they made sure he got home OK. All the kids involved were white but, our community has a population less than 15,000 including the local Military population 10 miles from town so it is not just an urban issue.
The pack/herd mentality can be a dangerous thing and the loss of morals, common courtesy, and failure to hold people accountable for their negative behavior is starting to unravel the fabric of our civilization. It appears the liberal’s hard work in sabotaging our way of life is really beginning to work and American society is going off the tracks.
It sounds as if he was, and when the thugs dragged her off the bus, he tried to get her back on - presumably so the driver could shut the doors and drive off.
This is a nightmare.
Does Baltimore have a “Stop Snitchin’” policy like many neighborhoods here in Milwaukee? Hopefully witnesses on the bus will come forward and get these punk kids off the bus and off the street.
You better believe. I guess your not an NBA fan, as you’d know of the Carmelo Anthony (whose a Bmore native) incident.
Today’s definition of hate crime is exclusively: White attacks black.
…but as far as I know all the buses have surveillance cameras on them.
From the end of the article in the Baltimore Sun:
1. OK the ‘we were the victims’ story has been played by some of the 9. Question is, who arrives first, Jesse, AL, or the local NAACP president?
2. The ‘my kid has never done anything wrong before’ defense is on the table.
3. The fight is under review by the ‘School Police’. OH PU-LEEZE! This didn’t happen at a school.
4. The empty threat of taking away bus privileges is on the table. Nice CYA.
5. MTA officials and State Officlas are investigating. OOOOOOH I’m fraidy scared. More bureaucratic CYA.
6. It has been said that this is a rare and isolated incident…..except nobody has the stats to back that up and the Sun, bless their hearts, listed two recent other incidents with students out of control. UH-Huh….
It’s her own fault.
She should have understood the culture of the bus before she attempted to sit down.
/The View-think off
Well, the excuses has already begun
From the Baltimore Sun:
Justice Brothers AWAY!!!!!
…and then beat up the girl.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Beat me to it mixer
I suspect the boyfriend, realizing he couldn’t fight 9 and protect her at the same time was trying to get her back on the bus, which is probably what I would do. When the only way to get to her is through a single doorway, let those punks make another go at her. Like Segal says, “He could be the biggest guy in the world; you smash his kneecap and he’ll drop like a stone.”
This does sound like a gang initiation, or it could just be pack mentality gone wild. Either way these punks need to be slammed down HARD or next time someone is going to die.
Mixer14 #45
Interesting use of the English Language.
My rather bigoted St. Louis grandmother had a saying:
“Five on one is _____________ fun.”
In the wake of the Jena 6, and this new atrocity in Baltimore, does anyone want to guess what the missing word was?
More to the point. What happened to the bus driver?
Why didn’t the driver contact police or at least dispatcher for bus company.
You can bet the Right Reverends Jesse and Al are headed that way as we speak.
Can we stop with the racist comments and innuendos? It’s comments like these (#26, 28, & to a lesser extent 52) that help turn a valid critiscsim on hate crime legislation and the actions of the justice brothers intp a screaming match into whose the racist.
Reminds me of the Halloween attack in Long Beach where the black girls beat up a white girl. Little jail time and even less national coverage.
Reread the article. He did.
taylork #54
I second that.
They said they were not sure it was related to race….funny…of course it is.
Where oh where can we find a white race hustler oh yeah right there are none because that would make them racists right.
Sickening, I sure hope this woman heals that picture is painful to look at.
Hmmm. Sounds like projection. A white guy pulls a knife (!?!) and threatens girls. What are those odds? One in a trillion?
Of course Mama can’t believe her babies could eeeeeeeever do wrong.
Why is the meter on my BS detector pegging?
Where’s the video? I’m sure the bus had a camera.
What is wrong with this picture is the excuses already being made by some parents of these thugs. If any of my children had been any way involved in this beating, even as an onlooker, they would be severely punished by myself and their father. And there lies the problem, kids quickly cotton on to weak and ineffectual parenting, those thugs obviously had no fear of consequences.
Anyone remember shaking in your shoes after your mother said “wait till your father gets home”. I do and my kids do too.
Two words: Concealed Carry. Mitigates these three words: disparity of force.
Good thing you don’t live in MA.
What a shame. This girl was hurt badly, and anyone who’s involved should be criminally prosecuted. Thugs are thugs; color is only an issue because the race baiters make it an issue. It will be difficult for this victim to get justice; I fear she’ll be “Reginald Denny’d”.
On December 6th, 2007 at 4:23 pm, flmom said:
It’s always the same story. If the parents weren’t the kind that excuses their child’s bad behavior, the “incident” probably wouldn’t have occurred in the first place.
I blame Booosh.
Someone had to say it.
Taylork
I haven’t read any racist posts, other than the frustration at the disparity with which these situations are treated by the MSM et al. The woman is white, she was attacked by 9 black youths, there will be no media frenzy, there will be no activists flying in to take up her cause.
On further thought, you’re right I do see racism, but not the kind you mean.
This quote comes from WBAL TV and I believe it to be more accurate than whatever that left wing rag, The Baltimore Sun prints. They are quick to get the attackers justifications in print while they ignore the truth.
In MD, these juveniles will be tried in the juvenile system so that means the worst they could get is confinement until they are 18 years old. I seriously doubt that they will get that much time.
Remember this is the same city that shot and killed 3 cops in less than 90 days.
In ATL 9 black youths beating up somebody are referred to as “emerging rap artists” or “promising hip-hop entertainers”. You need the street cred if you expect to make in the hip-hop world. They will now get an agent, sign a record deal and before you know it they will be hosting the BET Music Awards.
I did read the article..after I asked about the driver.
This is what happens when people don’t discipline
their children. In my family, when we were kids and
teens..if we got into trouble at school or anywhere
outside the house..we were in Worse trouble when
we got home. There were no excuses made for our
actions because we knew how we should act. And,
no, we were not perfect..far from it.
Way to raise your kids! 9 more nominations for Mothers and Fathers of the year. Throw all their behinds in jail for a good long time. Insanity x 9+
“Can we stop with the racist comments and innuendos?”
Please give me a example of “racist comments & innuendos” made here so far. Or is even mentioning that the perps are black a “racist comment”?
Too bad she didn’t have a concealed carry permit and a pistol! I love to read stories about thugs getting acute lead poisoning when they commit a crime against an armed citizen.
On December 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pm, flmom said:
Which is the exact same rationale that the left & the race-baters use for their anti-White racism.
What we are all missing is that this isn’t news or newsworthy - we are wrong to dwell on this you know.
I have been on the receiving end of this mentality one. A kid backed into my car. No big deal. He is black and I am white. I approached him and he was scared to death. The first thing I did was try and calm him and tell him it was no big deal, insurance would take care of it – I was not mad. He was cool. Then, mamma jumps out of the car and says, “those dent already be there.” I just looked at him, shook my head and sent him on his way.
He learned a valuable lesson that day. I hope it was from me.
Let’s be honest NO PC here. There is more Black/Hispanic on White crime than the other way around.
On December 6th, 2007 at 4:37 pm, #73 Bogtrotter said:
The “insert the word game” in post #52 is a good place to start. The missing word is “nigger” if anyone didn’t catch it.
in #24 is another,
and then there is #26:
That enough for you?
If spitting is justification for a severe beating, can we get Geraldo and MM together?
I know it’s wrong, but couldn’t resist.
It’s time to start dispensing the Hate Crime Charges, and it’s time for Whitey to start collecting reparations from the race hustlers.
Concerned Citizen
LOL
This is the first time I’ve heard about this case and # 78, you’re right but the pc trolls will call us all racists for it.
If we lose the hate crime label and agree that all crime
is wrong, will that put the racism mongers that go by
Reverend out of business?
H
Just a minor point, but did the story identify the race of the boyfriend or did I miss it?
Yeah, those posts were in pretty bad taste.
My daughter lives in Baltimore and rides the bus on a regular basis. To say that this frightens me is an understatement. Sadly, discipline seems to be a thing of the past in some of these dysfunctional groups….I’d say families but somehow that word just doesn’t fit. Once there was discipline not only in the home, but in the schools. Now you can’t look cross-eyed at anyone without being threatend with ruinous law suits. If we don’t stop tip toeing around these little thugs and stop tolerating this kind behavior, it will only get worse. The legal system, the race baiters, the moral dereliction of our leaders all contribute to a decaying society. Those trying to raise their children to be respectful of people and property, and to become productive and useful adults are being undermined by the indoctrination by schools, media and other sources. We need to support these families and let our local, state, federal, and school officials know in no uncertain terms how we feel about these things.
Sure - nothing happening here. Move along now. Just a typical Baltimore beating - third one in as many weeks - nothing to see - no real problem here. Can’t we all just get along now?
/sarcasm off
Can we say Sarah Kreager has a black eye?
Just wondering?
Yeah 29 Victor, she had it coming.
I hope that works out for you.
So let me get this straight. A white guy gets on bus, looks around and sees that most of the passengers are black, pulls out a knife and threatens somebody and these guys and girls jump the girl to retaliate.
Let me know how that works out in court willya?
29 victor
Like I said, frustration. The problem is, that if there were activists who came to highlight that woman’s situation, all involved would be vilified for being racist.
A criminal is as a criminal does, whether they be black or white, and until the racist excuses are ignored for what they are and until we start punishing criminals appropriately REGARDLESS of color, that frustration will remain.
Akon is innocent.
You are all racists.
/sarc
soap
LOL
On December 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pm, willie peter said:
??????
This is one of the most ignorant things i have ever read on this blog.
Nothing in my experience of Black people bears this out. And the Black parents of students i know here in my community would never condone the beatdown of a white person or any other person who wanted to sit down on a bus.
Give the perpetrators their due process and find them guilty as charged.
If these kids hate white people, then maybe it’s time they get some treatment for their mental health being the sociopaths that they are.
They obviously do not belong in society- yet-.
But with the attitude reflected in the quote above, I don’t think the owner of those words does either. And the owner of those words has been in society the past 75 years. I pity the descendants.
Clean it up. You know what’s wrong and what’s right. So act like a man and deal with it.
I don’t care what SharpDum and Hi-Jackson are gonna do. I want to know what we stand for when this kind of poison rises to the top.
And it sure isnt the “wisdom” shared in the owner’s quote at the beginning of this post.
Sickening.
This is so upsetting. As a 40 year old white woman I cannot imagine how horrible it must have been and sickening.
What upsets me is the protection kids get for doing outrageous things. And they know they will get leniency. I think they need to be punished. After all, how else do bad kids learn to go straight? When they suffer!
I had a very stupid leftist friend once. We were talking about the Long Beach white girls who were almost killed by a mob of underaged black kids. The kids got off easy, were practically able to continue on their lives without a hitch while the girls were dealing with serious issues. This person I was talking to actually said “Well the judge had to choose ‘rehabilitation’”. I kid you not. This person I was talking to didn’t want the kids to suffer at all..because after all they would not “rehabilitate”. Morons. This is why you can never trust crime/punishment issues with leftists…they are totally lacking common sense and right and wrong. Total morons.
Thanks I feel better. : )
So, when will you lay out the stats on that one?
FBI reports are publically available for crimes.
Educate us, all PC nonsense aside.
Soap~
Interestingly, the Germans use the phrase “buntes Auge”. Literally, a “colorful eye”. Having seen the “buntes Auge” of my HS soccer team’s goalie after he got kicked in the face blocking the goal (about 20 years ago, in Germany), that is really a more accurate description. And these days, that would also remove any unintended racial overtones…
On December 6th, 2007 at 5:01 pm, flmom said:
I understand the frustration, but that’s no excuse for some of the comments here. The point of my previous response to you is that the other side always points to “frustration” as an excuse for their inexcuesable acts.
“Frustration” is the excuse for the crimes of the “Jenna 6,” and will probably be used as an excuse for the thugs in this case. “Frustration” is the excuse used for 9/11. “Frustration” can be used to excuse anything.
People who react in bigoted fashion because they are “frustrated” don’t accomplish anything except giving the other side something to point at and laugh. And if we use that excuse we can’t be critical of the “other side” when they use it too.
Bear…I don’t believe the poster was implicating all black people. It’s not “blackness” perse it’s more about inner city culture. We all know not all blacks are like this by any means but a culture of them (and other races) ARE. I believe it was that culture, that speaks like that, was what he was referring to.
You could also say she has ecchymosis.
Actually, I don’t think I can say “ecchymosis.”
Brent, #74:
While I’ll be the first to agree with your statement, I would imagine that had the victim or her “boyfriend” (and I use the term loosley) been carrying and had shot one of these “innocent children”, then the good Reverends would already be in Baltimore, drumming up support for more gun control laws and demanding monetary satisfaction in the name of the families.
It’s utter horsepuckey, but it’s still true. Mores the pity.
Hello????
Anyone who believes the Baltimore Sun report is either blind, ignorant, or both.
The TV report posted in #69 is the accurate piece. The Sun reporters will go out of their way to paint the victims in this case as the bad guys. Trust me on this.
I have a long history with the Sun and I know the area of this assault very well having been a cop about 10 miles from Baltimore. Many of my friends are still active duty cops in Baltimore and I speak with them quite often.
The entire Baltimore Washington corridor is one huge crime zone. Like it or not, race based crimes are a fact of life in that area and it is not racist to say that. It is a fact and it’s been that way for a very long time.
the shame is that no matter what the race, 9 ganged up on one and beat her to a pulp. whether it was getting caught up in the moment with their peers or not, it is obivous that there is no sense of right or wrong. just the narcissistic “i am right in everything i do because it made me feel ________”. (Fill in the blank to justify the moment.)
this mentatlity is on the left in bigger numbers, but i have seen in on the right as well. parents do not want to parent cause it is hard work. it is easier to be ‘cool’. some parents take it as a frontal attack on them if you mention their kids need correcting.
as i stated before, we are in a state of lawlessness. vigilantism (as seen in texas) will be the only thing that corrects this anarchy, at least I am afraid that is what it will take. the judicial system is full of liberals, unless we start impeaching them, these types will not be punished as they should.
changing laws helps, but these lib judges seem to find away around those as well. lawlessness prevails.
And if some Charles Bronson character/Bernard Goetz type had intervened, we’d be having race riots.
I note that a homeowner shot and killed two criminal illegal aliens from Colombia in war zone Houston. Heard the recent new law says you can defend yours and your neighbor’s property there. In any case, better to be judged by twelve jurors than carried by six pallbearers.
I’m sure the bleeding heart revolving door justice and welfare systems will ameliorate any future problematic behavior by these cherubs. Yeah, right. That’s why we protect the identities of criminal juvie scumwads, eh?
You missed nothing. I played the odds and made a statistical inference.
This is abhorrent. There is no justification for what these kids did.
I have a difficult time accepting that she spat in the face of one of these kids. That simply doesn’t make any sense, especially when you consider the fact that she tried sitting in another seat. Sounds like someone who was trying to avoid confrontation.
What is wrong with kids today? Rhetorical…
With all due respect, Soleil, you are being naive. That quote walks and talks like a duck. So i called it.
Also, if the owner of that quote was referring to “that culture” that is enough of a generalization about “blackness”.
It must also be pointed out, that unless you are in the head of the owner of that quote, you cannot speak to the motive.
The impact is: the owner of the quote made a sarcastic remark that was bigoted. Because there are millions of us out here who live with black folks and do not AGREE with that way of referring to our friends and loved ones.
And I would dare the owner of that statement to say those exact words in that same way here in the midst of my friends.
While you are busy addressing the intent of the owner of that quote, I am addressing the impact of it. The impact on me. And the people who will be reading that trash being spewed.
That matters. Doesn’t suggest the kids arent wrong and shouldn’t be punished. I was very clear that they should be tried and punished. And if there is a psych evaluation done properly that finds they “hate” white folks— then bring on the treatment. It’s all we have.
We disagree. My commentary on it remains as is, unammended. Thank you for your time.
PS: And for the record, I don’t believe that the owner’s comments that I quoted are any reflection on Michelle Malkin or the other enlightened people i like to refer to as my friends on this blog.
But it was flat wrong for TexasAC to speak that way here.
In all seriousness, does anyone here think either of the Justice Brothers are physically able to unconditionally condemn the actions of these 9 kids?
I doubt it.
bear1909~
I can’t excuse TexasAC’s comment. But, I can say, given the commenter’s reported age, it doesn’t necessarily surprise me. I remember, back when I was an undergrad, driving in San Antonio with my Oma (b. 1911) and her sister (Dad was still stationed in Germany), and when we drove by a youth center not far from the senior apartment complex in which they lived, and there was a group of minority youths (don’t recall if they were black or Hispanic), they said things indicating they assumed that group was up to no good. Did that racist mindset get passed down to the following generations? No.
And as for white on minority vs. minority on white crime, I don’t recall where, but I have seen those stats before somewhere, so xler8bmw wasn’t just pulling “facts” out of thin air.
Sahra needs a new boy friend, the one she has now is a punk.
#105 All one has to do to get a good picture of what you are talking about is watch that great show The Wire on HBO. Some really nasty suckers in the schools and on the streets. I imagine Philly and other urban areas are not much different.
Lots of Hispanic gang problems here in South Fla. And naturally illegal aliens play a major role, especially the violent punks from El Salvador.
I work in juvvy justice and it is indeed geared more toward rehabilitation than punishment. Yes, I think this is ridiculous. Rehabilitation is fine for a one-time shoplifter, not fine for thuggery such as this incident.
What I find especially appalling is how the MSM and the justice system has a double standard when it comes to these types of incidents. The Jena 6 gave the message that black kids have earned one free shot at any white victim due to past injustices that happened to other people.
This is the truth in 2007:
The most racist people in the US are (and have been for a generation) what are described as minorities. Plainly said, they are black, hispanic and muslim. Sometimes all three. (Have I missed any major category? I think not.)
In my entire adult life, there have been areas in every major city where a white person risks his life at the hands of ‘minorities’ aka ‘disadvantaged’ aka liberal label of the month. In spite of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton the reverse is hardly true. In fact, it has been never true.
Otherwise we would have run out of minorities decades ago.
The name Troy Ennis is not fully enough to garner racial identity was the reason I wondered and I checked all other stories available on google news via searching and only his name pops up.
In todays society interracial couples are very common.
ecchymosis (e-ki-ˈmō-səs) = bruise
I learned that as an undergrad from a nursing student friend of mine.
But, I don’t think that really does justice to describing that poor woman’s eye…
Innocent by Black
Actually Bear, you are correct, FBI stats clearly show that race based crimes are not anywhere near the majority. Most crime, including white collar, is committed by Caucasions.
At least that was the case during my entire law enforcment career and I doubt that it has changed since I retired. But, having said that, I can personally attest to the fact that this area is not an area where caucasions frequent so the likelihood that this was an unprovoked attack is high
If that character shot to kill?
There would be some explaining to do. We know that much without too much speculation.
What if somebody else on the bus was armed and started shooting back?
What would the speculation be about that scenario?
What if their weaponry was superior in caliber and say in number and your character was killed?
What use did it serve to make your comment in the first place?
I’m interested in knowing.
29 Victor
I take your point, and I admit to being ignorant of Americanisms from 75 years ago, I’ve lived herein this country for just 21 years.
But the majority of the opinions expressed in this thread have been about the double standard that is imposed by the MSM and the Jesse Jacksons of this world.
If only they could get as upset by the black on white crimes as they do for the white on black. These apologists only hurt the cause they are supposedly fighting for, and give reasonable people doubts as to their real intents.
Speaking of race on other race crime, there is a wonderful article by Jason Whitlock here about black on black crime.
It’s worth a read.
Yeah, I learned it in HS Sports Medicine way back when and it stuck with me.
I agree. They were a few stomps short of crushing her skull from what I gather.
trinitytim~
Please re-read what xler8bmw:
He did not say there were more criminal minorities than criminal whites. He said there was more minority on white crime than white on minority crime. I make the assumption these crimes fall into the category of “violent crime” as opposed to “white collar”.
#100
Okay, most of us get it…can we please get back to the subject?
Sociopathic teenagers, who happen to be black, attacked a woman, who happened to be white, removed her from the bus (hint: kidnapping), and stomped her.
Remove the caveats, and does it lessen the crimes that were committed? No. The “fact” that black youths committed the crimes on a white woman naturally adds a racial component.
Had the 26 year old woman been any other race, does anyone think this incident would have occurred?
Too bad the boyfriend wasn’t armed. My husband and I both have concealed permits and would have been able to defend ourselves.
flmom #122
And I agree with every single one of those.
I was citing very specific posts when I commented, only three or four, but three or four that don’t belong in a serious, civilized, intelligent discussion.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough.
#117:
Figure the odds of five black youths attacking the white girlfriend of a black man.
While I’ve seen no pictures of Troy Ennis, I’d hazard a guess that he’s not physically imposing.
I do too, greenfairie.
And that is how racism is a gift that keeps on givin to this great Nation of ours.
People with means, resources, education, a budget, and a microphone don’t understand the power of this force that is lethal.
And that kind of confusion is not limited to any one racial group.
Rather, they will exploit it and end up fueling the flames.
Violence of this magnitude and brutality is a wake up call: they are MIDDLE SCHOOLERS!
On December 6th, 2007 at 5:29 pm, trinitytim
Blacks are responsible for 51% of homicides in America and are 13 times more likely to attack a white than the other way around. They are close to a majority in aggravated assault. Info is easily available.
#131 -
Please cite your source.
Thank you.
To say that I am not surprised that once again, the Liberals of this site, such as Rusty and the bunch, are overwhelmingly silent on this subject, as they always seem to be, would be an understatement no matter how you would say it. To go back and read all that was posted from them about the Jena Six, how they felt about them, how they were just misunderstood youths and all the tripe that came out about them, and then the deafening silence uppon news of this viscious attack by 13 year olds upon a defensless woman who’s only crime was to sit down on a bus seat, is so telling as to their true character and their actual preconceptions that it would take more time and space than is alotted here to get into.
I would love to hear from the Liberals as to why there is no outrage towards this attack. I would love to hear how it is the Conservatives, or “whitey’s” or Republican’s, or whoever the scapegoat du’jour is’ fault as to why this pack of thugs felt the need to attack like primatives and do everything they could to destroy another human beiong. Where are the calls of “Hate Crime”? Obviously this woman was of not the same color as they were. Were the races switced, it would not have been longer than a nano-second before “Hate Crime” would have been uttered. Where is Geraldo? Why aen’t there wall to wall coverage on all the media outlets trying to figure out why there is such a problem with the race hatred between the groups involved? Is it because the victim was white?
I am DYING to know your guys’ take on this. The ball is now in your court Liberals. It has been shifted. While there were no nooses this time to supposedly “enflame” their delecate senses of injustice, this is all that more important to understand why such young people would turn so violent all because a woman wanted a seat on a bus.
the world is listening to your response, and your silence is deafening.
bear1909~
And no doubt you can see even earlier signs of this antisocial behavior. Such as first graders flipping the bird to their classmates, as I witnessed while subbing the other day. Conveniently, we were in the hall outsid