The Religion of Peace Death for Apostates!
I’m sure the idiot women on “The View” will blame the victim in this latest sharia nightmare story. Do you think they even know what apostasy is–let alone the Koranic punishment?
The daughter of a British imam is living under police protection after receiving death threats from her father for converting to Christianity.
The 31-year-old, whose father is the leader of a mosque in Lancashire, has moved house an astonishing 45 times after relatives pledged to hunt her down and kill her.
The British-born university graduate, who uses the pseudonym Hannah for her own safety, said she renounced the Muslim faith to escape being forced into an arranged marriage when she was 16. She has been in hiding for more than a decade but called in police only a few months ago after receiving a text message from her brother. In it, he said he would not be held responsible for his actions if she failed to return to Islam.
Officers have agreed to offer her protection in case of an attempt on her life.
Last night the woman said: “I’m determined to live my life the way I want to because I should have that freedom in this country. “If you make the choice to come to this country, as my parents did from Pakistan, you have to abide by the laws of this country and that means respecting the freedoms of other people.
“I know the Koran says anyone who goes away from Islam should be killed as an apostate, so in some ways my family are following the Koran. They are following Islam to the word. “But I do not think every Muslim would act on that. “My situation is frightening, but I’m not going to let it frighten me to the extent I can’t live my life.
Paging the AWOL feminists:
A study this year found that 36 per cent of British Muslims between 16 and 24 believe those who convert to another religion should be punished by death.
In July an Iranian immigrant to Britain, who converted to Christianity, was saved from deportation after it emerged she would be stoned to death in her own country.
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and a madrassa grows in Brooklyn….
I saw this on LGF earlier today and the her tale of a mob of about 40 men trying to get to her led by her father to kill her for her crime of renouncing Islam was very sobering. This truly is a religion of pieces. This poor woman must always watch her back as long as she lives in the UK and even if she were able to escape to another country how long before she would also be hunted by the fifth column of Muslims slowing infiltrating Western civilized countries.
and folks worry about a Mormon running for President… Sigh.
Western civilizations War against Islam.
Win or Die
16? what a spinster!
Only 36%? I guess the others would only stand around to watch and applaud, which may be the only reliable definition we have of what behavior to expect from a Muslim moderate.
Maybe she can hook up with Salmon Rushdie.
Seriously, these people never fail to impress. They are 24/7, always on the go, ready to get the job done. Touch a hot button, unbelievably easy to do, and it will never be a case of “Humph! You a have wounded me, cad! I will never speak to you again!” No, writing letters to the editor is not going to work against these guys.
Too bad she isn’t in the USofA… we could issue her and order of protection!
They want to kill you for naming a teddy bear, would you expect anything less for leaving there so called religion. They want you DEAD if you are not a muslim,These people are sick.
Only the devil can create a religion like this, seems everyday they are outraged! I don’t think there are any moderate muslims, I think its a myth that they exist even though some may have freed up the British woman and getting her out of that hell hole. Being a muslim must be agony to be full of hate all the time. I can’t even imagine muslims making love or are they spewing hate during that time also?
brroklyn red:
You’re more right than many know. The “Holy Prophet Muhammad” (peace be upon his victims) took a girl of six as his wife and consumated that marriage when she was just nine years old. See:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/062.sbt.html#007.062.064
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/062.sbt.html#007.062.088
Concealed carry.
hey it’s all good…
“for they hated me before, they hated you”
and so it was written…
#9 I don’t think they make Love. I think it’s more you need to make me another suicide bomber…Now..we’re running low.
In the case of the mob going after her she would need a SAW and a couple of cans of ammo. Kind of hard to conceal even if wearing a burka.
garyt,
by the fruit that they bare??
twiggman, I don’t know for sure (I am a man) but I think it is kinda hard for a woman to make love after “circumcision”
I don’t know, jus sayin
The State Department continous to allow Islam to grow inside the United States. I wonder why.
BZO or DIE!
We still don’t know that the teacher is out of danger just because she is back in the
UK. Remember what happened to Van Gogh in the Netherlands. He was just riding his
bike when he was killed by a Muslim nut. The same or similar thing could happen in the UK.
The best thing this young woman could do is move to another country, say Australia
or New Zealand and change her name and always wear a kevlar vest among other
things because as long as she is alive she is marked. It’s Hades when your own family
is determined to kill you.
Be aware that this insanity will continue until the Islamic world outrages the civilized world enough to invoke a confrontation - the savages will discover that their tribal barbarism doesn’t last long against modern civilization betrayed.
Yes making love after circumcision would be difficult and I am trying to imagine the pain. Can’t these blood thirsty folks get a hobby to take up their time instead of trying to kill your own daughter?
Just amazing. I often wonder if the idiot (so much more could be said) women (or little girls by the way they act) on the view (no uppercase, they have not earned that) really listen to what they’re saying. How can they even begin to compare. And aren’t they all feminists (in theory). How does any HUMANITARIAN sit by and abide by this???
#18 - I though Van Gogh committed suicide in a mental hospital…
#20 - I suggest they “practice” suicide bombing in a vacant place.
Van Gogh jr.
#22 I think it was a grandson or somthing.
gandolphxx,
you are so spot on… too bad Iran will have N. Korean nukes on their missiles before that happens.
Ahhh - yeah, the brain is fried on Friday nights
When you are born “unworthy” to a Middle Eastern family, it is no great shakes to
mutilate or even kill said Unworthy. Only males are important.
As for female circumcision, I know several Muslim women who were born in the
Middle East and they aren’t circumcised. They have said that not all families follow that practice.
Denmark is closer to her. The Danes are standing against radical Islam- that little country has not lost its Viking spirit. They stood against Hitler by wearing the Star of David arm bands so the Nazis could not tell who was who. Now it is cartoons and a STRONG stand for freedom!
Holger Danske-Vagner.
If you’re packing a SAW, why worry about concealment.
The Danes can be a wonder. There is an old book called “A Night of Watching”
about the Nazis wanting the Danes in this one town to turn in all of their Jews.
The Danes declared that there were no Jews in that town, only Danes.
I have always hoped that it was a Dane in the Celtic family tree that gave me my
red hair. If anyone can stand successfully against Islam, it would be that country.
This young woman will never have a moment’s peace for the rest of her life. How horribly sad.
OK, Mom is a Dane… I remember being in a fishing town on Falster when a boat came in with a family of East Germans hidden under the Cod fish…
That make me more afraid of Democrats than jihadists!
“When Muslims are in the minority, they are demure;
when at parity, they are defiant; and
when at majority, they are deadly.”
Have always been more afraid of Jihadists than Democrats because I know what
is going on with the Islamists. They are operating purely on hate and the Koran as
taught in the Madrassas. The Dems on the other hand are wishy washy and you
never know which way they are going to swing, and they just don’t make sense,
because they constantly contradict themselves and they will cut off their noses to
spite their faces if for no other reason than to do the opposite of what conservatives want to do.
Darn! Got that backwards. Meant was more afraid of
Dems.
Little dog was helping me. She’s wanting to play.
Good one Dandapani.
little dog? is that an Edwards joke?
No. Real little dog. She is a 5# Papillon that has been sleeping in the corner of my
chair all evening and she has decided to wake up ready to play. She’s trying to
catch my hands as I type.
Oh, no wonder you dis pitbulls
My cat does that! He also likes to chase the mouse cursor while I’m playing Bookworm.
I did not approve the smiley face
welcome back mookie… i thought you might be in the er still
The only reason I dis pits is because so many of the owners have no earthly idea
what they have and what to do with the dogs. My dogs ( this is the smallest I have
ever owned ) have had a job even if it is just fly ball or agility to channel their
energy. A dog sitting in a backyard with nothing to do is going to get into
trouble.
My kitty passed last year. She was 24.
Hmmm…36%…Yeah, I guess that still qualifies as a minority all right. So that is how many of them would actually cut off her head, or shoot her, or stab her or beat her unmercifully until she were unrecognizeable all for the crime of leaving this, the peaceful religion that had just ruthlessly killed her for leaving it.
Now, what would be the percentage of “Moderate” Muslime that neither agreed with, nor opposed the killing of this woman for leaving the faith? I suppose that would be the definition of moderate in this case, with Liberal being the ones who would directly oppose her being killed and might actually hide her or do so,ething to stop it. What would they put those numbers at would you figure? How many moderates would see them killing her and just watch, not wanting to “get involved”? After all, can you imagine what would happen to them if they stepped in? Suddenly they would be forced to take a choice. They would be faced immediately with their convictions and would either have to join the mob, or would have to stand up to the mob and risk getting killed or maimed themselves as someone who supported this apostate, which in Islam is just as bad a crime against Allah.
Wow…I bet I can pretty much bet a whole months pay which way they would go. It wouldn’t take some Rusty thinking to tell me how the minorit would sway.
So, that brings up another question…how many minorities does it take to kill a 26 year old Apostate, anyway? What chance does this woman have when the minority is her own father and brother and the rest of her family, for Christ sake.
Now, one last question…I wonder if the Liberals…at least the Liberals on here, as I am not so egotistical as to think all Liberals everywhere read this site, let alone my own drivel, are beginning to see just how ridiculous and inane that entire pithy cry of “It is just a small minority of Muslims that are committing these acts” and “Only a small minority of Muslims are hijacking the relifion” sounds the more these stories come out. I wonder if they are understanding that it doesn’t matter how many of them it is, that the number is irrelevant to the ammount of actions.
I would also like to remind these Liberals on this, the 66th anniversary of our entering the Second World War, that the Nazi Party in Fermany was, and always remaind, a MINORITY PARTY in GERMANY. that’s right kids. When Hitler took over power in Germany, his Nazi party was in the minority. It remained as such, with the majority of the populace choosing to remain out of the Nazi party. Yet, look what this little corporal accomplished. You see, it does not take a majority to destroy the world, It only takes a few highly motivated people, and a way to create a deep seated fear and the means to carry out the threat. I do believe the are working very dilligently on all of that, and with the help of ostriches and appeasers and apologists such as Liberals in this country and others, they are rapidly approaching a goal in a way they have only dreamed about for 1400 years.
A dog sitting in a backyard with nothing to do is going to get into
trouble.
Hey! I resemble that statement!
We have heard these stories for years now. We know these imams mean what they say. And yet our own far left does not have the courage to speak out in protest of this barbarism. This lack of bravery (or overt display of cowardliness) will be their downfall.
The folks on the View will not condemn this practice. Not enough spine, for sure.
ER?
I know that NOW has been shamefully silent on this issue and the teddy bear issue. Has CWA issued any statements?
our left will fall, & the imams?
my bad mookie… you just answered the bell.
Barbara Walters made a gigantic mistake by having Sherri Sheppard take the conservative chair. You cannot tell me she was the best possible option.
Are you sitting in the backyard as we speak Red or do you have a dog out there?
Speaking of dogs…..did you know that Mothers in the Middle East commit almost
as many “Honor” killings as the men in the family? This woman is not safe even
with her own Mother…the person that (at least to my way of thinking should love
her absolutely unconditionally.
Rose, I am the dog in the back yard. Woff.
As for your “uncircumcised” friends they came here because?
they wanted to stay that way?
I am serious when I say the left think they can hold hands with the jihadists and
sing kumbaya and the world will become rosy, birds will sing, flowers will bloom,
butterflies will flit, earthworms will wriggle and my little girl dog will stop chasing
those @#$*&^%$ squirrels that are the bane of her life! Global Warming will be no
more and HRC will don an apron and cook dinner for Slick.
I wondered if the Koran ordered death for apostates or if it was only found in the Hadith. If it is only found in the Hadith then moderate Muslims are not bound by it. This Wikipedia article shows that the death penalty for apostasy is not in the Koran, yet it states that “All five major schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree that a sane male apostate must be executed.” I give up. Here are some articles by Robert Spencer that explain how radical Muslims use the Hadith and a couple verses in the Koran to order death for apostasy :
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17661
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={AFA5DD66-D14B-4DE6-B4A2-F8462AE5270C}
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001590.php
Ummmm just wait for what she wants to serve us…
They came here Red, for the opportunities. Some applied after being here in school and
others applied to come here because there were no opportunities for them in Palestine,
Algeria and Tunisia. Oh, some came with other members of their families.
We have a relatively large “moderate” Muslim population in North Central Texas. Most of
my Lebanese friends are Christian and that should tell you why they are here.
How do win a battle like this? No sarcasm implied, I’m asking that literally. Is it something that can even be defeated? How do you convince a fanatic to stop fighting?
You all know that just as someone can misinterpret what the Bible says, the same
can happen to the Koran. All it takes is one crazy old man with a sizable enough
and pliable enough audience to do some real damage.
It say a sane male apostate? Nothing about a sane (or even insane because she’s
female) female apostate?
I have read the Koran but none of the ancillary writings.
No offense meant… any one who goes any where does so cause it is better for them to do so.
I only wanted to sugguest that this is a better place.
You cannot Mookie. I have been on this earth long enough to know that a true
zealot is the most dangerous weapon around. One reason for that, I believe, is that
they can “infect” others with what they believe and it does not have to be true, just
believed, and acted upon.
The same goes for the far left. They are our zealots and we should view them that
way and treat them the same way. Never say that one of them could not justify
becoming a suicide bomber in this country.
By the way who heads NOW currently? They used to be always outraged when a pro life judge was appointed or confirmed by the GOP. There seems to be no outrage anymore except when they see abortion laws being threatened or aborted. Such hypocites even when Muslims won’t allow abortions and isn’t the abortion table their idol?
Mookie…”How do win a battle like this? No sarcasm implied, I’m asking that literally” . I suspect that you know better.
You either win hearts & minds, or you kill people & break things, but most likely a combination of both.
On December 7th, 2007 at 11:21 pm, TXRose said:
You cannot Mookie. I have been on this earth long enough to know that a true
zealot is the most dangerous weapon around. One reason for that, I believe, is that
they can “infect” others with what they believe and it does not have to be true, just
believed, and acted upon.
The same goes for the far left. They are our zealots and we should view them that
way and treat them the same way. Never say that one of them could not justify
becoming a suicide bomber in this country.
I feel the same way. I don’t think this is a fight that can be won by conventional means. Our soldiers fight for their country. Their “soldiers” are fighting for what they believe is their God. You can force a man fighting for his country to retreat. That’s happened since the beginning of time. You can’t do that with these people because you would need to convince them that their cause is unjust and that’ll never happen. When you have men and women willing to strap on a bomb belt and walk into a hospital or a market and kill themselves and others with the belief that they’re going directly to heaven, all the conventional rules go out the window. And how scary is that? It puts the most powerful nation in the world at a disadvantage.
Gary, the head of NOW is Kim Gandy. She’s been all over the talk shows this week, bitching about Imus.
Bear
You are so spot on. Those with the will, will overcome those without.
Rose is signing off for tonight. Ya’ll please solve all of the world’s, or at least the USA’s
problems while i’m gone. Night.
I don’t think hearts and minds will work.
You’re right Mookie, these people only understand power, they interpret negotiation as weakness and will never respect it. Negotiation will only work with them from a position of power.
From the “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” Department:
The BBC reports that Germany is preparing to ban the Church of Scientology:
How does Islam get a pass from German scrutiny?
The religion of maniacal freaks.
What am I missing here?? The police are protecting her, but why haven’t they arrested her father and all her brothers for making death threats?
Or is that not a crime in Merrie Old England?
And while they’re at it, get the pollsters to hand over to the police the names and addresses of the
and lock them up, too.
I’m also puzzled why this episode in Manchester didn’t warrant a neighbor calling the police (maybe just another typical Saturday night? Reminds me of a scene from Brooks’ “Young Frankenstein”):
SICK CULT.
When someone with the means and a perceived determination threatens your life, make sure you are either never around or - shoot first, shoot fast and shoot accurately.
Unfortunately for this woman, she is living in a society that outlaws self-defense.
EVIL CULT, aj
This is noy going away, even if most people stop looking!
She already has one hell of a
defense.
How do you convince a fanatic to stop fighting?
Is this a trick question or were you looking for a specific armament?
The reason Islam is not outlawed and Scientology is….Scientologists will go away
peacefully.
Same rationale about arresting or not arresting family making death threats to this
woman. Start arresting people for these threats and you are going to have riots and
Brits know this.
You cannot deal with the radical Islamists, and will never be able to do so nn
matter how often the left says you can.
Welcome one and all, to the 12th Crusade!
(applause..cheer)
Brought to you by Muslim Extreeeem, the favorite food-for-thought of the Jihad!
(applause)
Most of you will be glad to know, that 14 more islamic contestants in the Al Kut city limits were taken out of the game last week, due to injuries beyond allah’s control.
(laugh…clap hands)
Come back next week for another exciting episode of….The 12th Crusade!!
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You don’t. You kill them. I know that sounds crude, but it is true. Any honest psychologist will tell you that some people can’t be “fixed” to live in a law abiding, peaceful society. That is true with the prison population and radical terrorist types.
Think about it from the point of negotiations:
West wants: trade, peaceful existence, high standard of living
Radical Islam wants: Everyone who is not Muslim dead or enslaved
Let’s start negotiating:
Us: Ok, we will provide you with modern medicines and health services for your children.
Them: Ok, we want you to die.
Us: Well, how about we throw in free trade and we will allocate billions of dollars to build infrastructure and industry in your countries so that your people will be gainfully employed, be part of the world economy, and enjoy the same standard of living as the west, ie good sanitation, potable water, electricity and telecommunications.
Them: Ok. Now we want you to all die.
Where is there even a point to begin a negotiation? If someone wants you dead no matter what you offer them, you can’t co-exist with that. If you give them anything they will only use it to improve their ability to kill you. And you can’t bomb them back into the stone age because most of them already live at about that standard of living. You have to kill the provocateurs and their willing soldiers. Then the unwilling soldiers, those who follow because they have no other alternative or because they were coerced into it are free to be redeemed socially and live a productive free life with everyone else. It is the same with terrorists, gangs and dictatorships.
This is why the War on
TerrorIslamofascism is so very important. It is also why it is very important that we kill them over there rather than here. What we are seeing in Anbar and other places is that we are killing off the leaders and most radical followers which allows those coerced into fighting to have real alternatives. It is not by any case that everyone in the Middle East wants us dead or that all Muslims want us dead. It is a case that a significant number of radical leaders and willing soldiers do and they have enough influence to intimidate others to follow them or die themselves.Does anyone really think that we rolled over the Iraqi army ONLY because we were that much better? If they had all stood their ground and fought us like the Russians fought the Wehrmacht I’m not sure the public would have had the stomach for what we would have had to do to win. The fact is that many of the Iraqi soldiers just didn’t fight. I think that had to do as much with psychology as overwhelming force. I don’t think many of them wanted to fight for Saddam Hussein. When they realized that we were going to really take him out this time, they were good with stepping aside and letting us do it. I do not intend to diminish the bravery or ability of our armed forces, I’m just pointing out that we could have had a much tougher fight on our hands.
We have to be committed to killing the leadership - the radical Imams and their most loyal followers. Al-Sadr should have been sniped years go as should anyone stepping into his place. Yes you will create a power vacuum for a time, but during the lull, if you can convince the population that we will continue to destroy any radical leadership, only the most radical will stay loyal. And those you can identify and kill as well. It takes time, but eventually society polices itself. We have similar problems in the US with gangs. They behave in the same way.
If they can’t blame Bush, you won’t hear a peep.
*sigh* I think you are more right than you know. If things don’t change, genocide is inevitable. The question is: theirs or ours?
Will western civilization die a death of a thousand cuts, or will we defend civilization from silos in South Dakota? Paradoxically, standing up to the madmen could actually save them!
Isn’t this a hate crime? Does England have any laws on the books to prosecute these people? Isn’t this assault?
It’s really time to turn the tables on these haters. What they are doing is absolutely wrong and twisted.
Europe is now in now under attack by these people. The fundamentalists are very clear. They want to take over our civilization and institure their own laws. This atack is all part of the process. Evil like this cannot go unchecked. My prayers this holiday will go for all those being persecuted by the Muslum crazies.
A backwards religion for backwards people.
You know what is frightening. Their civilization wasn’t that backwards at one time.
Mathematics and science flourished, among other things, until Islam became so
overwhelming and they began to fall deeper and deeper under the influence of these
old imams that want to control the world.
I thought at one time Christianity had gone bonkers with the inquisition but it was
nothing like this where a woman who has been raped will be killed for “being with
a man who is neither her husband or a relative.” In other words, even if he breaks
into her home, beats her almost to death and rapes her, it’s her fault.
This is a corrupt, rancid religion.
If it comes down to genocide, it won’t matter to me if it is us or them, there will be as many of them taken out by me as i can until I run out of 9mm and .00 buck…and I have been stocking up for quite a while now.
Working towards 30/30 and .357 too. (gotta have my western stuff. Yee haw)