Comments on: Open borders lobby loses in Arizona

By: Bhishma

Bhishma — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:58:44 +0000

Again, hate to sound like a broken record but the trend of pandering o illegal alienr/criminals comes down right from white house. with politicians or their parties having to pay little or no price at all. In a sane worls. Bush, Teddy, Chertoff would have been tried for treason and the illegal immigrants would not have sugar daddies in white house, senate and congress. But American electorate are so lame that they can’t even see there the real problem lies… with their pliticians.

Ironically, when a patriot like Tom Tancredo does something about it, he is labeled “anti-immigrant”. Which proves the problem with American electorate. No wonder criminals rape America while border patrol agents rot in prison.

By: WarTip

WarTip — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:19:38 +0000

Unless and until we can secure our borders all of this will remain meaningless. How many “crimes that Americans will not commit” have been committed by people coming back after having been “deported” sometimes a multiple number of times? One of the very few powers the federal government is actually given is to secure our borders. Why won’t they do it and how come they are not accountable to more than a vote when they are in violation of the constitution?

Of the people huh?

By: TXRose

TXRose — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:00:30 +0000

The flea markets they patronize have been raided again and again because that’s
where most of their fake documents come from.
How can you prove someone “knowingly” hired an illegal besides the fact that he/she can’t speak a single word of English.

By: dallas7

dallas7 — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:28:40 +0000

This law is essentially toothless. First, it’s not retroactive and applies only to new hires. Second, only those who “knowingly” hire illegals can be charged. I live in one of the areas in Phoenix that’ve been overrun by illegals. Just a few blocks away from my home is a street corner where, for a few bucks, just about any fake ID can be had – DMV licenses, passports, birth certs, etc. It’s out in the open, like a flea market, and it’s the vendors only who will stand to gain. Well, them and the businesses who won’t hire citizens.

By: TXRose

TXRose — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:46:51 +0000

I have an Uncle that lives in NC. Son and Daughter in Law lived in NC before moving
to VA. VA not any better than NC.
For some reason, the pols and the MSM and NYT cannot seem to accept the idea that
the majority of this country disagree with them. I listen to nuance when I watch the
news on tv and I hear a lot of approval for the illegals in the news readers voices.
When they say something about anti illegal immigration people you can hear the
disapproval. It’s the same thing when George W. Bush was running for president. I
quite watching two channels because of the way they behaved when talking about
him. It’s the same thing with illegals and anti illegals.

By: gayle

gayle — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:11:12 +0000

Here is a copy/paste of my email from Erskine Bowles regarding the above post;

“Thank you for writing and sharing your thoughts and concerns with me. I assure
you that I do read my own email.

All we have agreed to do is research the pros and cons of the issue of in-state
tuition. The UNC Tomorrow Commission asked the University to examine “whether
and under what circumstances, IF ANY, undocumented students who graduate from
North Carolina high schools and are academically qualified for admission to a
UNC institution should be charged in-state tuition.” They instructed us to
examine the legal issues, the economic and social impact on the state, and the
potential cost to the taxpayers of doing this, versus the economic cost to the
state of not doing it. We have not taken a position for or against this
proposal. We will do the research and provide this research to all who would
like to see it.

Erskine Bowles”

I wrote him back and again told him there is nothing to debate. Illegal means against the law. What part of this did those in power NOT understand?
I also told him that the citizens of this country are fed up with the freebies they get from our taxes.
Also, I stated that we are becoming a 3rd world country and we are not going to let it happen.

Please write to this man! Thanks!

ebowles@northcarolina.edu

By: BobJones-77

BobJones-77 — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:41:35 +0000

Since when do criminals here illegally have ANY rights? Their rights exist back across the border from whence they came.

Immigrant rights groups. Ha, rights for people who come here with their hand out for the dole. So much for the working schlub who pays the taxes for the entitlements for illegal aliens.

By: TXRose

TXRose — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:14:09 +0000

It is a mess all over the state. Seems that it is either Mexican names that we hear the
most lately when a crime is being reported. You see way more brown and black faces
on the news because we are now the minority in Texas.
No one is reporting on what is going on on the border. A friend and her husband just
moved back after 6 months on a job in Laredo. She said she kissed the ground in
North Central Texas when she got back here. That’s how awful it was for them.

By: Nobility

Nobility — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:06:19 +0000

TXrose;
Here in Tx the other border thing is the apalling amount of trash. Either the poverty is not quite so bad or Fox and the govt are paying them to take out the trash.

By: gandolphxx

gandolphxx — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:26:28 +0000

Let us not kid ourselves that this is anything but an invasion – plain and simple.

As to refiling when damages or harm can be proven – one assumes that the harm will be to citizens as opposed to invaders.

By: TXRose

TXRose — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:09:02 +0000

What on earth would Mexico do if the illegals came flooding back across the
border? They would probably station troops on border to keep them here because
there goes the money.
Standing is the magic word. In these lawsuits, some judges are looking (and rightly
so), at standing as in who is truly hurt by this law? If the persons bringing the
lawsuit aren’t hurt by the law, they don’t have standing. This could have been used
all along and also against ACLU suits.

By: Azygos

Azygos — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:09:18 +0000

Alfredo Gutierrez, a spokesman for illegal immigrant rights groups

There, fixed it

By: twoninerkilo

twoninerkilo — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:47:37 +0000

I like the idea of death, or life at hard labor.

By: NHMagenta

NHMagenta — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:51:50 +0000

Don’t forget folks, – Congress and the President define what is “illegal” and what is “legal”.
The immigration “reform” really needed is to go back to what we had prior to 1965 and start from there, along with abolishing birthright citizenship and full “rights” for non-citizens.

We should be allowed to hold aliens to a higher standard such as deportation for DUI, shoplifting and other misdemeanors as well as felonies.

Criminals who re-enter after deportation should get either the death penalty or life at hard labor.

By: Poison

Poison — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:31:20 +0000

I’d call it a not-very-well-hidden agenda.