Comments on: The trial of Bilal Hussein http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:03:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Associated Press Still Reads Michelle Malkin’s Blog : Pursuing Holiness http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-460746 The Associated Press Still Reads Michelle Malkin’s Blog : Pursuing Holiness Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:36:42 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-460746 [...] knack for being at the right place at the right time to photograph terrorists, and a man about whom the military stated it “possesses convincing and irrefutable evidence that Bilal Hussein is a threat to security [...] [...] knack for being at the right place at the right time to photograph terrorists, and a man about whom the military stated it “possesses convincing and irrefutable evidence that Bilal Hussein is a threat to security [...]

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » Bilal Hussein update: Military details collaboration, MSM still in denial http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-198592 Michelle Malkin » Bilal Hussein update: Military details collaboration, MSM still in denial Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:04:18 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-198592 [...] I said on Dec. 9, “What you will not read in the AP’s coverage of itself (or in the coverage by its [...] [...] I said on Dec. 9, “What you will not read in the AP’s coverage of itself (or in the coverage by its [...]

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Iraq Phantom Count http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-197225 OneFreeKorea » Iraq Phantom Count Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:07:25 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-197225 [...] now at its lowest level since 2003 or 2004, it’s again possible to do some fact-checking of the Bilal Hussein version, which went unchallenged throughout 2004-2006.  And of course, media reports may well have [...] [...] now at its lowest level since 2003 or 2004, it’s again possible to do some fact-checking of the Bilal Hussein version, which went unchallenged throughout 2004-2006.  And of course, media reports may well have [...]

]]> By: Mark Jaquith http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191801 Mark Jaquith Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:40:30 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191801 <blockquote>Is it your position that, because this guy is under US detention, he’s entitled to the due-process/speedy-trial rights of a US citizen?</blockquote> No, he's entitled to the due-process/speedy-trial rights of an Iraqi citizen. <blockquote>He was helping crazy people kill other people, including US Soldiers. He deserves to be confined in any way without any due process.</blockquote> You don't know that for a fact. So you're as bad as the AP was when they were demanding that he be released without a trial. You'd have him sentenced without a trial. <blockquote>Let me get this straight. You are suggesting that they did not have evidence to arrest him/hold him? Or are you suggesting that the military release him, a suspected terrorist collaborator, in a war zone, before the Iraqi judge is prepared to hear the case?</blockquote> He was held for a year and a half without charge. It has nothing about a judge being ready to hear the case. It's about not holding people prisoner for long periods of time without charging them. <blockquote>How is it that he was prevented from making a case?</blockquote> He was not granted access to any of the evidence being used against him. He still hasn't. He was not told the charge that was going to be brought against him. So while they're working on their case against him, he's in the dark, in prison. By the chance he gets to start mounting a defense, the case will be two years cold. He has little chance of assembling witnesses or gathering evidence in his defense. He's not being accused of war crimes against the United States. He's being charged with crimes under Iraqi law.

Is it your position that, because this guy is under US detention, he’s entitled to the due-process/speedy-trial rights of a US citizen?

No, he’s entitled to the due-process/speedy-trial rights of an Iraqi citizen.

He was helping crazy people kill other people, including US Soldiers. He deserves to be confined in any way without any due process.

You don’t know that for a fact. So you’re as bad as the AP was when they were demanding that he be released without a trial. You’d have him sentenced without a trial.

Let me get this straight. You are suggesting that they did not have evidence to arrest him/hold him? Or are you suggesting that the military release him, a suspected terrorist collaborator, in a war zone, before the Iraqi judge is prepared to hear the case?

He was held for a year and a half without charge. It has nothing about a judge being ready to hear the case. It’s about not holding people prisoner for long periods of time without charging them.

How is it that he was prevented from making a case?

He was not granted access to any of the evidence being used against him. He still hasn’t. He was not told the charge that was going to be brought against him. So while they’re working on their case against him, he’s in the dark, in prison. By the chance he gets to start mounting a defense, the case will be two years cold. He has little chance of assembling witnesses or gathering evidence in his defense.

He’s not being accused of war crimes against the United States. He’s being charged with crimes under Iraqi law.

]]> By: The Jawa Report http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191733 The Jawa Report Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:41:32 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191733 <strong>Terror Propagandist & AP Photog Bilal Hussein Gets Hearing...</strong> AP photographer Bilal Hussein got his day in court. Unsurprisingly, the AP frames the event in such a way as to make him seem completely innocent. Just another victim of the U.S. military.An Iraqi investigating magistrate on Sunday convened the...... Terror Propagandist & AP Photog Bilal Hussein Gets Hearing…

AP photographer Bilal Hussein got his day in court. Unsurprisingly, the AP frames the event in such a way as to make him seem completely innocent. Just another victim of the U.S. military.An Iraqi investigating magistrate on Sunday convened the……

]]> By: MrArchieBunker http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191463 MrArchieBunker Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:29:08 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191463 The AP is at it again. From the crew at Newsbusters: NBC to Air Freedom’s Watch Ads, AP Seems Displeased.. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/09/nbc-air-freedom-s-watch-ads-ap-seems-displeased The AP is at it again. From the crew at Newsbusters: NBC to Air Freedom’s Watch Ads, AP Seems Displeased.. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/09/nbc-air-freedom-s-watch-ads-ap-seems-displeased

]]> By: RetFireman http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191417 RetFireman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:05:12 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191417 And on what basis should American rights be extended to non-citizens other than because some Liberal "feels" it should be? NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say so. In fact, the Constitution is pretty explicitin that these rights are extende ONLY to citizens of the United States, and CITIZENS ONLY. So, any Supreme Court Justice, or any Judge on any court anywhere, who decides to extend such rights to anyone other than to a citizen is, in fact, going directly against the Constitution. It is one of those things that is actually not open for interpretation...it is pretty well completely spelled out. Yet another reason why Liberals suck and can not be trusted in any court of law. And on what basis should American rights be extended to non-citizens other than because some Liberal “feels” it should be? NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say so. In fact, the Constitution is pretty explicitin that these rights are extende ONLY to citizens of the United States, and CITIZENS ONLY. So, any Supreme Court Justice, or any Judge on any court anywhere, who decides to extend such rights to anyone other than to a citizen is, in fact, going directly against the Constitution. It is one of those things that is actually not open for interpretation…it is pretty well completely spelled out. Yet another reason why Liberals suck and can not be trusted in any court of law.

]]> By: alamedaman http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191302 alamedaman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:31:42 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191302 no liveblog for the debate on Univision tonight? no liveblog for the debate on Univision tonight?

]]> By: bear1909 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191275 bear1909 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:45:42 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191275 <blockquote>On December 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pm, ajmontana said: OT- On my roadrunner home page theres a poll “Who would you least like to win in 08?” Right now Hillary leads the way with 46% No-one else even close…. I love it. </blockquote> A new bumper sticker for 08: <strong>HILLARY IS NOT THE ANSWER!</strong>

On December 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pm, ajmontana said:
OT-
On my roadrunner home page theres a poll “Who would you least like to win in 08?”
Right now Hillary leads the way with 46% No-one else even close….
I love it.

A new bumper sticker for 08:

HILLARY IS NOT THE ANSWER!

]]> By: Marshall Russ http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191262 Marshall Russ Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:05:40 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191262 RetFireman ,#29. Last week the questions from the conservatives on the SCOTUS(Scalia and Roberts) to the lawyers arguing for the enemy combatants were, "What precedent in US.law or back to English law is there for extending Constitutional rights to non-citizens? Namely access to US courts." BUT, the liberals(Breyer)on the court were asking questions that indicated they thought these rights should be extended. The fact that it could be a close vote either way is cause for concern. RetFireman ,#29. Last week the questions from the conservatives on the SCOTUS(Scalia and Roberts) to the lawyers arguing for the enemy combatants were, “What precedent in US.law or back to English law is there for extending Constitutional rights to non-citizens? Namely access to US courts.” BUT, the liberals(Breyer)on the court were asking questions that indicated they thought these rights should be extended. The fact that it could be a close vote either way is cause for concern.

]]> By: RetFireman http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191245 RetFireman Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:26:30 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191245 I love it when people think that everyone in the world are entitled to get our Constitutional Rights that are only guaranteed to American Citizens. Especially when they are screaming about giving them to the murderers in GitMo and other places. It just shows how ignorant these people are of the Constitution. Makes me chuckle a deep, low Santa-like chuckle. Ho ho ho. I love it when people think that everyone in the world are entitled to get our Constitutional Rights that are only guaranteed to American Citizens. Especially when they are screaming about giving them to the murderers in GitMo and other places. It just shows how ignorant these people are of the Constitution. Makes me chuckle a deep, low Santa-like chuckle. Ho ho ho.

]]> By: ajmontana http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191243 ajmontana Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:25:13 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191243 OT- On my roadrunner home page theres a poll "Who would you least like to win in 08?" Right now Hillary leads the way with 46% No-one else even close.... I love it. :) OT-
On my roadrunner home page theres a poll “Who would you least like to win in 08?”
Right now Hillary leads the way with 46% No-one else even close….
I love it.
:)

]]> By: bear1909 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191233 bear1909 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:01:46 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191233 May the case and the evidence against BHussein be airtight, well-presented, and carried through to successful prosecution. Perhaps it will send a message to the scum at AP, Reuters, and Al-Jazeera, that we are the United States of America--- not the Third Reich, the Imperial Empire of Japan, Saddam Hussein, Syria, Iran or any of the other putrid excuses for a dictatorship that have plagued the Earth. Stand tall American and keep playing by the rules. We rock. May the case and the evidence against BHussein be airtight, well-presented, and carried through to successful prosecution.

Perhaps it will send a message to the scum at AP, Reuters, and Al-Jazeera, that we are the United States of America— not the Third Reich, the Imperial Empire of Japan, Saddam Hussein, Syria, Iran or any of the other putrid excuses for a dictatorship that have plagued the Earth.

Stand tall American and keep playing by the rules. We rock.

]]> By: gunslingerpatriot http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191231 gunslingerpatriot Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:54:37 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191231 There is one possibilty that hasn't been brought up and that has to deal with the issue of intelligence. It stands to reason that before charging this broke back, that the US military would follow up any leads they may have found while questioning said named stringer. The other important point that has been brought up is that the AP wants this guy treated with rights given American citizens and not as an enemy combatant. Its situations like this that the articles of the Geneva Convention need strong review since the enemy we are fighting does not show the basic respect for the rules of war. If the articles indicate that a non-uniformed person fighting is to be executed, then lets do it-if not, its time to review it. As far as the AP is concerned they justify why the blogsphere is doing phenomal (sp?) job and while the hacks (msm, et al) just aren't cutting it. GSP "Got Sig?" :) There is one possibilty that hasn’t been brought up and that has to deal with the issue of intelligence.

It stands to reason that before charging this broke back, that the US military would follow up any leads they may have found while questioning said named stringer.
The other important point that has been brought up is that the AP wants this guy treated with rights given American citizens and not as an enemy combatant.

Its situations like this that the articles of the Geneva Convention need strong review since the enemy we are fighting does not show the basic respect for the rules of war. If the articles indicate that a non-uniformed person fighting is to be executed, then lets do it-if not, its time to review it.

As far as the AP is concerned they justify why the blogsphere is doing phenomal (sp?) job and while the hacks (msm, et al) just aren’t cutting it.

GSP
“Got Sig?”
:)

]]> By: Mark http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/comment-page-1/#comment-191228 Mark Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:43:14 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/09/the-trial-of-bilal-hussein/#comment-191228 Mr. Jaquith, How can the trial be a sham when it has not occurred? Did you mean to say that the liberal media will excoriate the US and the US Armed Forces if we don't follow their protocol -- charging him when THEY want us to do so? If so, then what's new about that? Also being "held without charge" in a war zone is normal. Ask any POW. Real ones. Mr. Jaquith,

How can the trial be a sham when it has not occurred? Did you mean to say that the liberal media will excoriate the US and the US Armed Forces if we don’t follow their protocol — charging him when THEY want us to do so? If so, then what’s new about that?

Also being “held without charge” in a war zone is normal. Ask any POW. Real ones.

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