How lame can you get? The innocents were turned over by their own countrymen? For rewards? lgm, these cretins are not from the countries where they were picked up for the most part. In addition, we have tried to turn some of the 300 remaining detainees back to their country of origin. But you want to know a secret? Their countries will not take them!!!!!!!!!! Figure it out and pass it on to your fruitcake friends. These are bad people and they want to kill you. I know this from first hand meetings with them. Even as we gave them medical treatment and tried to save their lives they still wanted to kill us. I think you should have all 300 over as your house guests. What do you say to that?

Romeo13 said: “The battlefeild does NOT have forensic scientists”

I agree with all of your other points, but we actually do practice forensics on the battlefield.

We do not know this. In fact, it seems that a fair number of them were detained by locals and turned over to US forces for rewards. There seems to be little evidence against many of them.

Do you believe all the enemy’s paid PR firm’s propaganda? Tell us (as you seem to have researched this), of the 300+ detainees still in Gitmo, how many would you say were just foreign (to the country they were in) “charity” workers local authorities picked up and turned over to the US?

BTW, do you happen to know the classified evidence presented to the CRST boards or are you speculating having only heard the talking points from the likes of Mark Denbreaux?

My point is not to say you are knowingly espousing the enemy’s PR firms’ spin yet you are, like the rest of us outside of the arena, at a disadvantage. If we are to win this war, we need to have some faith in those on our side in the arena. We don’t and should not know the classified information that proves the detainees are a threat if released for if we did, the enemy will know it as well. And that is the same reason why bringing terrorists into the federal courts or providing them habeas corpus review, regardless of their locale, is reckless and dangerous.

Actually, let’s have an adopt a terrorist program. Liberals can sign up to have Gitmo prisoners stay at their houses with their families for 6 months at a time. I’m sure that the kindness the liberals would show them would easily turn them around and make them love Americans and quit trying to kill us. Then again, they may kill you and your wife and your children in your sleep because you picked up a Koran without washing your hands and putting on a pair of gloves first, but hey, at that point they will be legal residents so at least they will then be entitled to due process so the liberal will have died for a good cause.

Foxes in the hen house because the sheep on guard were busy throwing rocks at the penned up sheep dog.

Our prisoners at Gitmo were not picked up going to Sunday school. They are enemy combatants captured by our valiant soldiers, sailors, Marines and “others”.

We do not know this. In fact, it seems that a fair number of them were detained by locals and turned over to US forces for rewards. There seems to be little evidence against many of them.

To be fair, Shearman & Sterling isn’t the only law firm cashing in. Arnold & Porter, another D.C. firm, also reported $380,000 in lobbying fees on behalf of the “International Counsel Bureau”—which is nothing more than a P.O. Box in Safat, Kuwait—and “the Kuwaiti Detainees Committee.” Their FARA registration indicates that they “contacted members of Congress, congressional staffers, and media representatives, in an effort to obtain due process for the Kuwaiti detainees in U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay.” These lobbying efforts appear to be having a tremendous effect.

Our prisoners at Gitmo were not picked up going to Sunday school. They are enemy combatants captured by our valiant soldiers, sailors, Marines and “others”. The law firms stated above appear to be willing to take money from our enemies for the sole purpose of weakening our Republic. In my opinion, they dishonor our Country.

Should we treat these enemy combatants as if they are citizens? Heck no. Never. Holding these devils at Gitmo indefinitely is not inhumane and does not make us as bad as them. In fact it is more than they deserve. Just a reminder to our liberal friends, the enemies we are fighting do not keep prisoners long, just long enough to behead on video.

Within all this is the issue of non-uniformed combatants who are part of organizations which have stated their desire to kill Americans and destroy this nation. And we have plenty of democrats, even on this forum, not only unwilling to condemn them, but proposing using tax dollars seized from native citizens to do so. That’s like giving a rapist $600 for a new gun and ammunition, the key to your house, the security codes, and a list of times your wife is going to be home alone. Friggin’ genius!

We will try one more time: They are un-uniformed combatants – by all modern rules of warfare (including the Geneva Conventions) they get treated as spies, not POWs. Along with that we have the right to execute them by firing squad any time. We can shoot them. No trial required. No habeas corpus needed. No tribunal even need be considered.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why the democrats want to give illegal immigrants, terrorists, and un-uniformed combatants the same, or in the case of illegals, more, rights than American citizens. They would give all who wish to destroy us the simplest means to do so. *bangs head on desk in frustration*

I believe it goes to the heart of the practical debate, not over the issue of whether a reasonable interpretation of the Constitution does or does not give enemy combatants full access to our federal courts, but whether, in fact, it should. John Adams wrote in 1776 that “we are a nation of laws, not men,” but I would ask, who writes the laws and to what end?

What did Ben Franklin say about allowing (lawyers) people of title to make the law?

Wow! Brian72 actually covered my talking points pretty well.

Unfortunately what is not being discussed is the amount of money being funneled to politicians by way of lobbying and other special interest groups. Until we take away their financial incentive they will continue to betray we the people.

It never ceases to amaze me how many politicians who actually seem to have a pair willfully allow themselves to be fully emasculated when the almighty dollars are at risk!

Won’t anyone bring into question foreign governments financing the political parties and ignoring we the people?