Comments on: A closer look at those Halliburton/KBR gang-rape allegations

By: “Halliburton”, gang rape, and fear of arbitration: the Jamie Leigh Jones case

Mon, 26 May 2008 01:42:42 +0000

[...] Here is the EEOC Letter of Determination. Bill Childs provides many other court documents. A typical unskeptical adoption of the Public Citizen line can be found at Jezebel and many other blogs. Some Republican partisans are even more skeptical than I am. A more nuanced discussion is at Amber Taylor’s blog and Ben Domenech. (And welcome Malkin readers.) [...]

By: Chuck

Chuck — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:26:01 +0000

what the heck happened to this…????!!! suddenly its off the radar scope. If there’s really something here, why isn’t it headline news?????

By: Jon Swift

Jon Swift — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:40:53 +0000

Jamie Leigh Jones Undermines the War Effort…

If the terrorists wanted to undermine the war effort and destroy Western Civilization as we know it, this would be the perfect way to do it….

By: A More Professional Take on the Halliburton/KBR Rape Case « Mr. Skulduggery

A More Professional Take on the Halliburton/KBR Rape Case « Mr. Skulduggery — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:13:09 +0000

[...] regarding Jamie Leigh Jones’ rape/cover-up/hostile work environment allegations (thanks to Michelle Malkin for the [...]

By: Flopping Aces

Flopping Aces — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:33:51 +0000

The Perfect Story, Not So Perfect…

Michelle Malkin links to Ted Frank’s blog, OverLawyered, who looked over the gang-rape case against KBR and came away a bit skeptical, as I was and still am: In February 2006, Jamie Leigh Jones filed an arbitration complaint, complaining that,……

By: deepdiver

deepdiver — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:18:26 +0000

If the allegations are true, I’m good with the men responsible being castrated with a rusty hacksaw blade.

I am currently of the opinion that something happened untowards, probably illegal to the woman, however, there are some questions that pop to mind in the stories, but I am unable to determine if they are a product of the agenda MSM reporting or are actual inconsistencies.
As a preliminary position I would hazard that whatever happened has been exaggerated however, such exaggeration does not preclude that the actual event was heinous. I’m good with watching the story progress and seeing what the legal system finds and, if it gets that far, what a judge or jury decides.

By: countrybumpkin

countrybumpkin — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:41:09 +0000

Why do I think of the liberal TV gal that was mugged in NY recently?
The next story was that she fell walking her dog.
Then we settled for being drunk and falling on her face.
Anything like that here?

By: Ace of Spades HQ

Ace of Spades HQ — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:27:27 +0000

More on Jones/KBR “Gang Rape” Allegations…

Everyone’s dancing on eggshells about this, and I suppose that’s proper. Still, if one ventures a perfectly honest opinion, I think one has to say that frequently changing allegations are not generally taken to be a sign of veracity. In……

By: Bill DeFelice

Bill DeFelice — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:06:27 +0000

Has anyone out there know the biggest member of Halliburton’s board is Sen.Diane Funkstien’s hubby?No wonder she got herself chairman of the Military Construction Committee.There were some big bucks to make,on the backs of U.S.Taxpayers.And they cleaned up!

By: AlohaGuy

AlohaGuy — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:00:38 +0000

I’ve read part of the complaint, and it seems believable. That said, there are always two sides, but her story doesn’t sound fishy.

Aside – ladies, no job is so good you have to submit to pressure from a supervisor for sex.

By: 509th Bob

509th Bob — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:20:32 +0000

The rape is reported to have occurred in the Green Zone, which is not co-extensive with U.S. Embassy grounds. KBR maintained a place in the Green Zone called Camp Hope. The question then becomes (1) whether KBR was there in support of the U.S. diplomatic mission, and (2) if so, does that make Camp Hope land “appurtenant or ancillary thereto or used for the purposes of those missions or entities, irrespective of ownership….”

Good question Taylork!

By: right_on

right_on — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:16:30 +0000

James Felix said:

The same way that recordings of 911 calls are evidence.

911 calls from the “victim” (the act is happening, or has just happened) are used in evidence. However, I may be wrong, but how can a “third party” call, not to a law enforcement facility, but to a politician’s office, be evidence.

The call, as far as I can tell, was made way after the alledged assault, not by the allegded victim, nor someone in close proximity. That is why I believe, it is heresay…”She told me this happened…by these people…” The reports that the story has changed, from her mouth, would seem to me, make any recording by others on her behalf, an impeachment of her truthfulness.

Would it make a difference if it had been Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson making the call? How could that be evidence of a crime? (Tawana Brawley?)

By: 509th Bob

509th Bob — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:02:01 +0000

Taylork,

Good question. I know that there are connex living spaces within the U.S. Embassy compound, which is huge. I admit that I have assumed that the offense took place there, but I could be mistaken.

By: taylork

taylork — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:43:07 +0000

For offenses committed by or against a U.S. national on embassy grounds…

Is where she was allegedly raped considered embasy grounds?

By: 509th Bob

509th Bob — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:39:25 +0000

Why is everyone saying that there is no U.S. criminal jurisdiction for this offense (assuming that it occurred)? For offenses committed by or against a U.S. national on embassy grounds, federal criminal jurisdiction exists. 18 USC 7(9). Aggravated Sexual Abuse, 18 USC 2241(b), using a date rape drug and then having sex with that person, is a crime. The US Department of Justice has federal (non-military) prosecutors in Baghdad.

Why is this being handled as a EEOC matter? Not that this will prevent a possible criminal prosecution, mind you, but this is the aspect of the claim that bothers me the most.

I agree that there are some apparent inconsistencies in the story, but I am not prepared to dis-believe it – just yet.