Sedition in Olympia update: Who should foot the bill?
You’ll recall that I covered the seditious moonbat protests at the Port of Olympia extensively last month. Here’s a follow-up. The Olympian reports that the anti-military obstructionists cost the city of Olympia $112,168–and the tab is expected to grow:
The protests of military shipments at the Port of Olympia last month cost the city of Olympia at least $112,168, and the city should consider sending the bill to the port and other entities, City Manager Steve Hall said Tuesday.
Hall said most of the costs were for police overtime and compensation time. Also, nearly $4,000 in damage was done to police cars, and the city spent nearly $2,500 on equipment, including pepper spray, he said.
The tab likely will grow, Hall said.
“City time of other departments during the event and follow-up with regard to complaints, phone calls, allegations of misconduct, potential future claims and lawsuits could create significant diversions of city resources in the coming months,” he said.
The city is contemplating billing the Port for the costs.
You know who should be billed?
The vandalizing, truck-blocking, police car-damaging, concrete-pouring, baby-dropping protesters.
That’s who should get the bill.
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By what logic should the victoms of the violence (the port) be forced to pay the bill for damage caused by the perpetrators (the protesters)?! If this lunacy is allowed to stand, it will only incentivize these idiots to get even more violent. They would love nothing better than to jack up the costs on their intended victims.
Are there any sane people left in Olympia?
Agreed. Problem is, they weren’t even arrested, as I recall. This should be part of their fines/restitution costs.
Oh, but that would actually require personal responsibility on their part.
They’ve never heard of that. They probably don’t even have day jobs.
Send the $112,168 bill to TJ Johnson, he can pass the hat during their ‘next’ protest.
That’s the problem with libs, on one hand they proclaim any failure to be a victim…
but then they always blame the victim.
Makes ones head spin.
Here in Arizona we have what we refer to as “The Stupid Motorist Law” … you see … when we have heavy rains there are a lot of natural areas that become paths for the run-off of the rain down to the river bed … these low areas are plainly marked with signs saying “Do Not Enter When Water Is Present” … and they put up barricades on the streets leading to them … needless to say people go around the barriers … next thing you know they are being swept down stream in the rushing waters … so here come the rescue squads, often including helicopters, to pick them off the roofs of their floating cars …
Well … guess what … afterwards they get the bill for the rescue …
Should be the same for protesters that get out of control and cause damage to property … they should be made to pay for it …
Why are there no arrests??????
DesertLover is correct.
There should have been arrests, and those people should either be prosecuted and forced pay damages or fined - similar to the way it was described for Arizona residents.
If the city can’t require their Police to move forward with prosecution from the evidence, its their own damn fault and they deserve the bill.
The last thing they should do is get my tax dollars (from a Govt funded Port) to pay for damage caused by idiot moonbats.
Marshall Russ, arrests for Sedition??
Ha, ha … start with those in Congress.
This is insane!!!!! Even on liberal standards they have to even recognize this as insane.
The FBI should be there as well as the local police. The interference with these shipments should be a federal matter.
Video of TJ Johnson, Mayor Foutch, and Laura Ware, Olympia City Council Members as they spoke during a Council Meeting on November 20th about recent protests at the Port of Olympia:
(notice the upside down American Flag?)
Interfering with military supply shipments in a time of war. Oh that’s just a little sabotage…
The word TREASON comes to mind.
They have photos of these people.
Why don’t they go after them and sue them?
This is a really simple fix. Transfer the tax dollars funding social programs in Olympia to pay for the sedition and treason of its residents. Problem solved. After all the authorities failed to maintain order, protect private property, and allow the delay of commerce.
The moonbat liberal position is to go after the deep pockets of The Port of Olympia a major source of revenue to the state and local community. I would love to see the company that runs the port operations shut down for a while to teach the local economy a valuable lesson. Never happen, but would love to see it.
Let Starbucks foot the bill. They like to print all sorts of bizarre rhetoric on the sides of their cups, feigning their social activism, so let them step up and pay the tab for their coffee-swilling swine fellow Olympians!
Can’t imagine Rudy or Fred or Mitt allowing the U.S. district attorney to ignore prosecuting these loons.(With my apologies to the birds).
The tab should be paid fully by the city of Olympia, since it is their responsibility. Now, if they want to start enforcing the law, make arrests when the law is violated, and prosecute the perps, then they can have the courts add on restitution, long term probation restrictions, and maximum jail time. Otherwise, I would say that their inaction is contributing to the protess results, and they are responsible for the costs.
Yeah, let’s seize the profits from
oil companiesstarbucs!Yeah, that the ticket, these poor people are victims… they didn’t intend to commit treason, they were just over caffeinated!
Oooh, & a new federal coffee over-sight dept. Cool!
Brooklyn Red #18 LMAO, Let’s tax each cup of coffee $5. Refils too. Will name it the Hyper Hippie tax.
I say raise the taxes for the people of the city of Olympia. If the citizens want to put up with moonbats who hate this country, then pay up. Sedition isn’t free. The other alternative is to arrest seditious law breakers before they can cause the damage they are hell bend on causing.
mtn grandpa #11 Thank you for the link to the meeting-saw the upside-down flag and heard TJ Johnson-the mayor and mayor pro-tem - What a group of weaklings.They should be sued too.
Please don’t be too hard on Starbucks. I’m sending troop boxes to the brother of one of “my” baristas-Marine-second tour. The young people give their mark-outs and…..etc. You’ve got to love them and they are WORKING!!!!
I’ll bet the mother who dropped her baby and most of the anti-America protesters do not have jobs. In fact-the mother in question is not even working as a mother - the most difficult job of all.
The city of Olympia dropped the ball when the protestors weren’t arrested, so they could be fined appropriately to help cover the costs. If the city didn’t want to arrest them, the city should pay the bill. If they can’t do it out of the existing budget, raise taxes till the tax payers elect somone who will authorize the arrests. Citizens deserve the type of government they elect.
Maybe, just MAYBE, if the Port gets the bill, next time they’ll actual get some backbone and DO something about these freaks and arrest them.
Ah. Wishful thinking. Stupid me.
Hey…ain’t this all on film?
thanks, that video was quite telling. That TJ Johnson and Laura Ware are just too frail to walk out side on their own. When Ms. Ware blamed the military and Port Authority for scheduling movements three nights in a row and not just one night so the traitors and the city police would not have to work all those extra hours I just busted out laughing! What a fool!
I think all of you have really nailed it. Liberals don’t believe anyone should have personal responsibility, except conservatives, who should be responsible for everything from slavery to the great depression (those greedy stock brokers) to islamofascism.
Because true conservatives are pessimists, they are happier than liberals, for three reasons. First, pessimists are rarely surprised. Second, when they are wrong they are delighted to be so. Third, pessimists do not put their faith in princes – in government. They understand that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. Happiness is an activity; it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
– George F. Will
Pulitzer Prize–winning author and columnist Cup #258
Don’t know if any of you have ever read Barry Goldwater’s Conscience of a Conservative from 1963, but what applied then, certainly applies today (replacing the Soviet Menace chapter, which can now be reworked to the radical Islamic threat). The table of contents:
1. The Conscience of a Conservative
2. The Perils of Power
3. States’ Rights
4. And Civil Rights
5. Freedom for the Farmer
6. Freedom for Labor
7. Taxes and Spending
8. The Welfare State
9. Some Notes on Education
10. The Soviet Menace
Hmmm…how some things haven’t changed. This is a good short read.
$112,000
An ongoing protest, like this, is like a parade. It’s planned in advance. The “Participants” know who is going to be there and when. It’s a media “event” and should be treated as such.
To have a parade, the organizers have to have a permit, each float has to be inspected and, perhaps, permitted. A “responsible party” has to be named and an insurance policy provided to the city.
Perhaps, they should use a “Capitalistic” approach to these type of protests/events in future. Create an ordinance which, basically, says “Group Protests(ers)” (those affiliated with a “Group”), on public property or near same, shall be required to be registered with the city, individually, and shall be required to provide proof of insurance in an amount not less than $1,000,000 dollars”. “Individual Protesters” (those not affiliated with a “Group”)shall provide State issued ID. Any and all protesters shall have in their possession, at all times, a city issued permit. Any protester not regestered, or without permit, shall be removed from public property, expenses relating to same, up to and including attorneys fees and potential punititive damages, shall be the responsibility of the non registered protester.”
The city would then video tape the event and, in the event of problems or damage to public property, fine, prosecute or sue the offending party(ies).
/sarc off
OOPS! Sorry, 1st amemdment.
ACLU will sue and make us look pragmatic, or heaven forfend, Conservative and pragmatic…
In a perfect world they’d bill the seditionists. As if they had any money of their own…
Others here have already ID’d the best candidate to pay for the mess: the City of Olympia. If they just want to stand on the sidelines and let the seditionists run wild, then when it comes time to pay the check they’re the ones responsible for not putting a stop to it.
And the State of Washington should also pay its fair share. If they’re going to use state tax dollars to fund an institution of extremism that makes “Collegio Caesar Chavez” look like Harvard, then when the little darlings wreak havoc in the local community it’s at least part the state’s own fault for providing them with a nest in the first place.
From the standpoint of the city, I can see the temptation to bill the Port. The Port authority, after all, has the money and more importantly, isn’t going anywhere. It’s easy to invoice entities with infrastructure. You can always do something drastically stupid like block access until payment.
Logical, no? Utterly and completely wrong, as well.
There is another entity that fits all of the above conditions. It’s got infrastructure, controllable access, and service vulnerabilities, among other things. Best of all, it already subsists on the public tit.
I speak of the Evergreen State College, whose degree of involvement is exceeded only by that of TJ Johnson.
1)Many if not most of the protestors attend(ed) there.
2)Campus organizations were heavily involved in the protests.
3)Teaching staff assisted in planning the festivities.
The costs could be added to the already exorbitant tuition paid by the young termites who attend this institution, illustrating the relationship between freedom of speech, civil disobedience, and Responsibility.
Won’t happen.
The feds need to assign a federal marshall to escort the convoys to and from the Port of Olympia. When the “protesters” block the convoy he then orders them to disperse. If the “protesters” fail to obey his lawful order, they can be charged with a federal crime (interfering with a federal officer in the performance of his duties.)
There is no free speech violation involved. They can rant and rave and drop their babies on their heads all they want from the side of the road. Block the movement of military equipment to or from a war zone and go to jail.
NOW, if only someone could give G W B the cojones to actually do this!
Holding breath………….turning a pretty shade of blue…………..passing out…………………………………………………………………….
Dark Horse, It sounds like a perfect situation to apply the RICO statutes. The conspiracy was hatched and planned at this so-called institution of higher learning by the inmates and administrators. Federal seizures may be in order!
Assuming that we did actually live in a nation of laws, those that broke the law should have been arrested and held accountable for their actions. Since the people of the city and state are actively impeding the movement of supplies to and from a war zone they are no different than enemy combatants dressed in the guise of American citizens. What would we do if we caught a group of un-uniformed people disrupting the convoys in Iraq? There is no real legal separation here. While people would decry the actions, it may serve as a reminder that we are a nation of laws and we are at war. Protesting is perfectly legal so let them protest. If they want to actively seek out a means to destroy our supply lines, let them suffer the same punishment anyone in Iraq caught doing the same thing would suffer.
Political “philosophy” (Can liberalism actually be considered a philosophy? There does not seem to be any real search for any truth involved) be damned, these people are actively destroying supply lines.
Actually, that sounds like it should be the starting point for a nrw trend in law enforcement and all future “Civil Disobedience” Take the bill for all the police, fire, EMS, vandalsm, and anything else that occurs during said marches, rallys and other forms of protests, organized or otherwise, and send the bills to any and all identified organizations that are taking part in said protests or “Civil Disobedience” These culprits can be identified by the websites that advertise said ho-dows, people who put up flyers, the posters carried or the people who apply for the permits which must be applied for to make it all nice and legal.
I would be willing to bet that once these “people” start having to foot the bill for all the damage and all the man power that they force these municipalities to supply for their seditious love-ins, they will either become a great deal more infrequent, or at the very least, a great deal less violent and less prone to breakage, burning and vandalism. Man, I would love to see this happen and for the life of me now that it has been brought up, can;t understand why it has not been done in the past, especially in Seattle and Sacramento and instead the tax payors had to foot the bill for their violence and stupidity and “First Ammendment Rights”
Just like what was done to the klan in the 1980s. Hit them in their pocketbooks. The organizations and the individuals in those organizations who participated in the sedition without a marching permit should be fined, sued and their common property confiscated.
ROFL. So the councilman participates in this, runs up the charges and then after the fact decides to bill someone else. The voters of this area are the ones who elect these people and they are the ones who should foot the bill.
What, he would have prefered tazers and billy-clubs?
I know I would have…
Lot’s of comments about how the protesters probably don’t have jobs, or money, or other assets…
Wrong!
Many of the protesters are students at Evergreen State College, come from families in the outlying areas of Seattle and Tacoma… their parents own houses. If the port authority is hit with the bill for this they should sue the individuals that can be identified.
Since a member of the city council not only condoned, but participated in the protests, I don’t see a question here. . . it was a city sanctioned event and the city foots the bill.
No different than the trash collection costs after the Christmas parade, or the 4th of July fireworks display.
Since it was the perpetrators who caused the expense, they should be billied, both individually and collectively. Many states bill the individual when expenses are incurred or damage is caused by a person either accidently or on purpose. Knock down a road sign - you pay. Need an ambulance - you pay.
If the authorities do not have the testicular fortitude to bill the perpetrators, then the expense rightly falls with the local government - it is their choice, and the taxpayers there can either absorb the expense or get tough on these nitwits.
In no way, shape or form, should the expenses be borne by the Port. That is akin to having the police arrive at your home to arrest someone who just broke into your house and murdered a family member, billing you for their expenses in nabbing the culprit. That is called adding insult to injury.
“Dissent is Patriotic”
Does anyone have an update on this? Several weeks ago I emailed both the City Manager Steve Hall(shall@ci.olympia.wa.us) and Councilman TJ Johnson (tjohnson@ci.olympia.wa.us), the one who both participated in the protests and arranged for the meeting afterwards. To date, I have heard nothing from them. Has anyone else?