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	<title>Comments on: The Iowa Democrat debate: Schoolmarm returns; Update: Schoolmarm is all giggles; Update: No &#8220;show of hands,&#8221; schoolmarm not amused by Hillary&#8217;s joke; Update: Obama gets the best one-liner&#8230;“Hillary, I’m looking forward to you advising me as well.”</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Nutroots go ballistic: We demand a stultifyingly dull debate! Or else!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Nutroots go ballistic: We demand a stultifyingly dull debate! Or else!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] you know you&#8217;re supposed to just let the candidates bloviate about Compassion  or Global Warming or Diversity or some other MSM-designated Important [...]</description>
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		<title>By: THE WORST DEBATES IN HISTORY &#171; D=S</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE WORST DEBATES IN HISTORY &#171; D=S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fred leads, Mrs. Clinton panders &#124; BitsBlog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/the-iowa-democrat-debate-the-schoolmarm-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-195570</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred leads, Mrs. Clinton panders &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat Tips:  Allah Pundit,Hot Air; Michelle Malkin. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/the-iowa-democrat-debate-the-schoolmarm-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-195546</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not holding my breath for Obama to win the democratic convention.  Remember this is the party that was violently opposed to emacipation.  And, when that happened, enacted the &quot;Jim Crow&quot; laws. This is also the party that had the filibusters in major Civil Rights legislation in 1946, 1957 (Thank you, Sen. Thurmond) and 1964 (Thank you, Sen. Byrd, ex-grand wizard of the KKK).  Once the filibuster was over, and Johnson signed it, they claimed &quot;victory&quot;.  I used to be a democrat...up to Carter when I was part of his inaugural staff (in a minor role). I saw the swing to the far left and left them in disgust. They haven&#039;t changed their tune, just hid it.  Support Obama until the convention, then shove him aside with some excuse.  They will keep showing Black people a list of promises, year to year, that will never be fulfilled.  And, Black people and the poor will continue to believe, year to year, that they will be fulfilled; instead of being kept as &quot;government dependents&quot;. The best Obama can hope for is the vice-presidency. Once in office, he will be treated like Truman under Roosevelt-kept in the dark on everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not holding my breath for Obama to win the democratic convention.  Remember this is the party that was violently opposed to emacipation.  And, when that happened, enacted the &#8220;Jim Crow&#8221; laws. This is also the party that had the filibusters in major Civil Rights legislation in 1946, 1957 (Thank you, Sen. Thurmond) and 1964 (Thank you, Sen. Byrd, ex-grand wizard of the KKK).  Once the filibuster was over, and Johnson signed it, they claimed &#8220;victory&#8221;.  I used to be a democrat&#8230;up to Carter when I was part of his inaugural staff (in a minor role). I saw the swing to the far left and left them in disgust. They haven&#8217;t changed their tune, just hid it.  Support Obama until the convention, then shove him aside with some excuse.  They will keep showing Black people a list of promises, year to year, that will never be fulfilled.  And, Black people and the poor will continue to believe, year to year, that they will be fulfilled; instead of being kept as &#8220;government dependents&#8221;. The best Obama can hope for is the vice-presidency. Once in office, he will be treated like Truman under Roosevelt-kept in the dark on everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev Snow</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/the-iowa-democrat-debate-the-schoolmarm-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-195515</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What do we do about entitlements?&lt;/strong&gt;

Hillary: &lt;em&gt;Bipartisan commission.&lt;/em&gt;

What an opening!  Was there no one there to slam her with the obvious rejoinder?

Hey, Hill, why not save time and just dust off the  &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9405EFDC1738F936A25751C1A962958260&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recommendations&lt;/a&gt; of the bipartisan commission your husband appointed to examine the matter more than &lt;strong&gt;ten freaking years ago&lt;/strong&gt; ?!

Clearly she still endorses the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fwut.net/press/2001/011211release.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Do Nothing Plan&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What do we do about entitlements?</strong></p>
<p>Hillary: <em>Bipartisan commission.</em></p>
<p>What an opening!  Was there no one there to slam her with the obvious rejoinder?</p>
<p>Hey, Hill, why not save time and just dust off the  <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9405EFDC1738F936A25751C1A962958260" rel="nofollow">recommendations</a> of the bipartisan commission your husband appointed to examine the matter more than <strong>ten freaking years ago</strong> ?!</p>
<p>Clearly she still endorses the <a href="http://www.fwut.net/press/2001/011211release.htm" rel="nofollow">Do Nothing Plan</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: i b squidly</title>
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		<dc:creator>i b squidly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just Mountain Standard Time CSPAN doesn&#039;t get? Two days in a row the DVR set to record per CSPAN&#039;s schedule and comes back the Agriculture debate in the Senate (no quorum if you curious). Sheesh!

Absent relevant input I&#039;l observe the school marm&#039;s backside rivals LBJ&#039;s which is but a tad smaller than PIAPS&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just Mountain Standard Time CSPAN doesn&#8217;t get? Two days in a row the DVR set to record per CSPAN&#8217;s schedule and comes back the Agriculture debate in the Senate (no quorum if you curious). Sheesh!</p>
<p>Absent relevant input I&#8217;l observe the school marm&#8217;s backside rivals LBJ&#8217;s which is but a tad smaller than PIAPS&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: BlameAmericaLast</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/the-iowa-democrat-debate-the-schoolmarm-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-195406</link>
		<dc:creator>BlameAmericaLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Hillary Cackle = Fingernails on a chalkboard.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, I heard it. But it&#039;s more like a hyena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Hillary Cackle = Fingernails on a chalkboard.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I heard it. But it&#8217;s more like a hyena.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought 16 year old girls could make adult decisions on their own… according to the left…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha jrl!  You&#039;re an adult if you&#039;re 12 and want an abortion, but a child if you are 24 and want S-Chip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought 16 year old girls could make adult decisions on their own… according to the left…</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha jrl!  You&#8217;re an adult if you&#8217;re 12 and want an abortion, but a child if you are 24 and want S-Chip!</p>
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		<title>By: Wonkette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wonkette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Two Go In, One Comes Out...&lt;/strong&gt;

 What is political poison on the first go round somehow turns into magic on the second. [Wizbang Politics] Debate? Blah Blah Blah Hate America. [Michelle Malkin] The Nobel board continues to demonstrate its good taste. [Think Progress] Hey, look......</description>
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<p> What is political poison on the first go round somehow turns into magic on the second. [Wizbang Politics] Debate? Blah Blah Blah Hate America. [Michelle Malkin] The Nobel board continues to demonstrate its good taste. [Think Progress] Hey, look&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Moe of MO</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/the-iowa-democrat-debate-the-schoolmarm-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-195246</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe of MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mainstream media is so generally mistrusted that the Register&#039;s charade debate for the Ds is apt to have little effect. It&#039;s not so much that people understand the partisan agenda -- Clinton needs help; the only way to help Clinton that might seem credible is go-easy on all Ds; thus, go-easy on Clinton might get lost in the shuffle. Mission accomplished = no further harm to Clinton.  
Instead, the larger public expects little from media debates, esp when the Ds are on stage, and bothers to pay attention only if someone does well eg Romney, Thompson, or a gaffe is made. But there won&#039;t be a D gaffe because it&#039;s all softball, except for the odd questions to Dodd and ?Biden (correct, I didn&#039;t watch, too predictable to bother.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainstream media is so generally mistrusted that the Register&#8217;s charade debate for the Ds is apt to have little effect. It&#8217;s not so much that people understand the partisan agenda &#8212; Clinton needs help; the only way to help Clinton that might seem credible is go-easy on all Ds; thus, go-easy on Clinton might get lost in the shuffle. Mission accomplished = no further harm to Clinton.<br />
Instead, the larger public expects little from media debates, esp when the Ds are on stage, and bothers to pay attention only if someone does well eg Romney, Thompson, or a gaffe is made. But there won&#8217;t be a D gaffe because it&#8217;s all softball, except for the odd questions to Dodd and ?Biden (correct, I didn&#8217;t watch, too predictable to bother.)</p>
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		<title>By: The Iowa Debates: The Democrats &#171; Axis of Right</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/the-iowa-democrat-debate-the-schoolmarm-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-195233</link>
		<dc:creator>The Iowa Debates: The Democrats &#171; Axis of Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bloggers watched the debate and had a few things to say about it.  But really, what hasn&#8217;t been said yet in the Democrat debates?  Bush is bad, raise taxes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bloggers watched the debate and had a few things to say about it.  But really, what hasn&#8217;t been said yet in the Democrat debates?  Bush is bad, raise taxes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: puhiawa</title>
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		<dc:creator>puhiawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans are fools to let this happen to them. If the forum is biased they must say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans are fools to let this happen to them. If the forum is biased they must say so.</p>
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		<title>By: donnab13</title>
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		<dc:creator>donnab13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;2:43pm Eastern. Hillary interjects. “Carolyn, are you going to ask us to raise our hands? ‘Cuz the Republicans didn’t do such a good job. We believe it is a problem!” Schoolmarm: “I’m not doing that today.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course she did not ask for the hand raising today...she is still stinging from the smack down Fred gave her yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2:43pm Eastern. Hillary interjects. “Carolyn, are you going to ask us to raise our hands? ‘Cuz the Republicans didn’t do such a good job. We believe it is a problem!” Schoolmarm: “I’m not doing that today.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course she did not ask for the hand raising today&#8230;she is still stinging from the smack down Fred gave her yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Salt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;jrlingreenbay said:
Salt -

“trolls” who have differing opinions and can hold an intelligent discourse are always welcome here.

Those that do nothing but spout talking points and demonstrate BDS and denegrate the rest of the board as well as our hosts are the ones who deserve a shellacking.. and usually get it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I concur with you on this.  So long as an argument is presented politely and has some real thought behind it, I&#039;m okay with it.  Rudeness should be ignored.

I suppose when the mantra of the other side is to coordinate attacks based on endless repetition we&#039;re not likely to get reasoned discourse very often.  So long as the shellacking is done with logic and well reasoned thought, I&#039;m all for it.  That&#039;s not always the case, but  typically is.

My overall point, however, was that while the media might believe they&#039;re helping the Democrats with these squishy questions, they might actually be setting them up for a big hurt when the real season begins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>jrlingreenbay said:<br />
Salt -</p>
<p>“trolls” who have differing opinions and can hold an intelligent discourse are always welcome here.</p>
<p>Those that do nothing but spout talking points and demonstrate BDS and denegrate the rest of the board as well as our hosts are the ones who deserve a shellacking.. and usually get it.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I concur with you on this.  So long as an argument is presented politely and has some real thought behind it, I&#8217;m okay with it.  Rudeness should be ignored.</p>
<p>I suppose when the mantra of the other side is to coordinate attacks based on endless repetition we&#8217;re not likely to get reasoned discourse very often.  So long as the shellacking is done with logic and well reasoned thought, I&#8217;m all for it.  That&#8217;s not always the case, but  typically is.</p>
<p>My overall point, however, was that while the media might believe they&#8217;re helping the Democrats with these squishy questions, they might actually be setting them up for a big hurt when the real season begins.</p>
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		<title>By: jrlingreenbay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrlingreenbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when do liberals consider 16 to be a &#039;little girl&#039;?  The Apollo program started in 1963....

I thought 16 year old girls could make adult decisions on their own... according to the left...

Another Clinton BS moment?

Nice catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when do liberals consider 16 to be a &#8216;little girl&#8217;?  The Apollo program started in 1963&#8230;.</p>
<p>I thought 16 year old girls could make adult decisions on their own&#8230; according to the left&#8230;</p>
<p>Another Clinton BS moment?</p>
<p>Nice catch.</p>
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