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		<title>By: Political Vidication Radio Show Notes For 01/08/08 &#124; Political Vindication</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-212825</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Vidication Radio Show Notes For 01/08/08 &#124; Political Vindication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin &#8216;New Jersey abolishes the death penalty  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; New Jersey apologizes for slavery</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-212041</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; New Jersey apologizes for slavery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not sorry for repealing  the death penalty against the wishes of victims&#8217; families of all races and backgrounds, but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: madmaxine</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-207782</link>
		<dc:creator>madmaxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who talk about people who have been freed because of DNA evidence. To me this makes the case for the death penalty even stronger because DNA can give us conclusive proof of guilt.

Have the anti-death penalty advocates never heard of escape or parole? Charles Manson who was originally sentenced to death in California  along with the members of his &quot;family&quot; get regular parole hearings, and there are many others like him who were originally sentenced to death who lived in states that overturned the death penalty who now regularly get parole hearings. 

The death penalty may not prevent people from murdering others, but that is because it isn&#039;t carried out enough, nor does it have any real 
predictability people know getting the death penalty is like winning the Multi-million dollar jackpot.  If people knew that if they murder an innocent person they had a 50 percent chance of getting the death penalty they would think twice.
Instead we live in a country where you can rape a 16 year old girl to death, put a pipe bomb in her mouth to destroy any dental records and get out of prison less then ten years later.

I respect life, and that is why I feel people who take the lives of innocent people on purpose need to have their lives taken away, so they can never do it again, so people who haven&#039;t yet committed murder can see their future if they do, and so the survivors don&#039;t have to go to parole board meetings every few years and relive the day someone they love was brutally murdered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who talk about people who have been freed because of DNA evidence. To me this makes the case for the death penalty even stronger because DNA can give us conclusive proof of guilt.</p>
<p>Have the anti-death penalty advocates never heard of escape or parole? Charles Manson who was originally sentenced to death in California  along with the members of his &#8220;family&#8221; get regular parole hearings, and there are many others like him who were originally sentenced to death who lived in states that overturned the death penalty who now regularly get parole hearings. </p>
<p>The death penalty may not prevent people from murdering others, but that is because it isn&#8217;t carried out enough, nor does it have any real<br />
predictability people know getting the death penalty is like winning the Multi-million dollar jackpot.  If people knew that if they murder an innocent person they had a 50 percent chance of getting the death penalty they would think twice.<br />
Instead we live in a country where you can rape a 16 year old girl to death, put a pipe bomb in her mouth to destroy any dental records and get out of prison less then ten years later.</p>
<p>I respect life, and that is why I feel people who take the lives of innocent people on purpose need to have their lives taken away, so they can never do it again, so people who haven&#8217;t yet committed murder can see their future if they do, and so the survivors don&#8217;t have to go to parole board meetings every few years and relive the day someone they love was brutally murdered.</p>
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		<title>By: sfcmac</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-200978</link>
		<dc:creator>sfcmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Martini is awakened at 6:30 a.m. and eats breakfast in his cell. 

Each day at 8:30-10 a.m., 11:30 a.m.-1 p.m., 4:30 - 6 p.m., and 7:30-9 p.m., Martini and other death row inmates come out of their cells, two at a time, for quiet recreation. They can play cards, do puzzles, etc.

Every other day, three death row inmates at a time, can participate in recreational activities.  They can play handball or basketball, jog, do chin-ups and push-ups, etc.

Lunch at 11 a.m.

In the afternoon, a 15-minute shower is permitted.

Two phone calls a day are permitted. Attorneys can be called at any time.

Dinner between 4 and 4:30 p.m.

Window visits are permitted between 4 and 5 p.m.(one family/personal visitor in the unit at a time). Visits must be scheduled 48 hours in advance and can only be from immediate family members. 

Inmates are locked-in at 9 p.m. but there is no official lights out.

Friday is cleanup day on the unit.  Martini cleans and mops up his cell. 
 
http://www.fairlawnnews.com/2004/Spring/martini-past-13-years.htm&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wanna bet he has cable T.V.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Martini is awakened at 6:30 a.m. and eats breakfast in his cell. </p>
<p>Each day at 8:30-10 a.m., 11:30 a.m.-1 p.m., 4:30 &#8211; 6 p.m., and 7:30-9 p.m., Martini and other death row inmates come out of their cells, two at a time, for quiet recreation. They can play cards, do puzzles, etc.</p>
<p>Every other day, three death row inmates at a time, can participate in recreational activities.  They can play handball or basketball, jog, do chin-ups and push-ups, etc.</p>
<p>Lunch at 11 a.m.</p>
<p>In the afternoon, a 15-minute shower is permitted.</p>
<p>Two phone calls a day are permitted. Attorneys can be called at any time.</p>
<p>Dinner between 4 and 4:30 p.m.</p>
<p>Window visits are permitted between 4 and 5 p.m.(one family/personal visitor in the unit at a time). Visits must be scheduled 48 hours in advance and can only be from immediate family members. </p>
<p>Inmates are locked-in at 9 p.m. but there is no official lights out.</p>
<p>Friday is cleanup day on the unit.  Martini cleans and mops up his cell. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fairlawnnews.com/2004/Spring/martini-past-13-years.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairlawnnews.com/2004/Spring/martini-past-13-years.htm</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Wanna bet he has cable T.V.?</p>
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		<title>By: sfcmac</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-200961</link>
		<dc:creator>sfcmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsflash, ThackerAgency:
The death penalty was tailor made for miscreants like McDuff. The only problem I have is they die too easy. I&#039;m for killing them the same way they did their victims. Now THAT would be real justice. Save your sympathies for the victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsflash, ThackerAgency:<br />
The death penalty was tailor made for miscreants like McDuff. The only problem I have is they die too easy. I&#8217;m for killing them the same way they did their victims. Now THAT would be real justice. Save your sympathies for the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr_Conservative_Cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-198811</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr_Conservative_Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My home state continues to slide. Now watch homicides in depressed areas like  Newark, Paterson and Irvington rise like a rocket, causing thousands of times more death and heartbreak than that created by excecuting murderers would have done. I hope I&#039;m proven wrong, but I cannot help but think that future statistics will prove that massive heartbreaking tragedy in the long run will follow this decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My home state continues to slide. Now watch homicides in depressed areas like  Newark, Paterson and Irvington rise like a rocket, causing thousands of times more death and heartbreak than that created by excecuting murderers would have done. I hope I&#8217;m proven wrong, but I cannot help but think that future statistics will prove that massive heartbreaking tragedy in the long run will follow this decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great: New Jersey&#8217;s death penalty ban saves &#8220;Megan&#8217;s law&#8221; killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great: New Jersey&#8217;s death penalty ban saves &#8220;Megan&#8217;s law&#8221; killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] followed this story last week, noting some of the other killers that would be spared and noting this about New Jersey&#8217;s opinion of the death penalty.  A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NJ Abolishes Death Penalty. Was it Urgent? &#124; Vlad Zablotskyy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-196579</link>
		<dc:creator>NJ Abolishes Death Penalty. Was it Urgent? &#124; Vlad Zablotskyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: NJ Abolishes The Death Penalty- while I often read Michelle&#8217;s blog, I hate the fact that you need to registered user on her blog in order to leave a comment. Michelle, I see you are using WordPress as well if you have enabled the option where only registered users can comment, you should also enable the registration option. Just a suggestion. I have to completely disagree with you on this issue. Death penalty rarely if ever brings closure to the families of the victims.   Share this page with your friends: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: NJ Abolishes The Death Penalty- while I often read Michelle&#8217;s blog, I hate the fact that you need to registered user on her blog in order to leave a comment. Michelle, I see you are using WordPress as well if you have enabled the option where only registered users can comment, you should also enable the registration option. Just a suggestion. I have to completely disagree with you on this issue. Death penalty rarely if ever brings closure to the families of the victims.   Share this page with your friends: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: publiuswarmac9999</title>
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		<dc:creator>publiuswarmac9999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to be very careful about correlating releases from death sentences and assumptions of innocence.  In far too many cases, the release is as a result of some liberal judge determining that there was a procedural error or abuse - regardless of whether there was one or not.

As to DNA exonerations, great - if they can be correlated with other evidence.  But if the DNA confirms guilt, then there should be no change in the sentence other than to expedite its conclusion in the gas chamber, electric chair, or other means of execution.  Frankly, the argument that life in prison is cheaper than the death sentence is really a bogus argument.  Virginia has an expedited death sentence process and many of these vicious thugs go quickly to hell.  (The only reason for high costs is the payment of lawyers fees for an interminable number of bogus appeals.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to be very careful about correlating releases from death sentences and assumptions of innocence.  In far too many cases, the release is as a result of some liberal judge determining that there was a procedural error or abuse &#8211; regardless of whether there was one or not.</p>
<p>As to DNA exonerations, great &#8211; if they can be correlated with other evidence.  But if the DNA confirms guilt, then there should be no change in the sentence other than to expedite its conclusion in the gas chamber, electric chair, or other means of execution.  Frankly, the argument that life in prison is cheaper than the death sentence is really a bogus argument.  Virginia has an expedited death sentence process and many of these vicious thugs go quickly to hell.  (The only reason for high costs is the payment of lawyers fees for an interminable number of bogus appeals.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/13/update-nj-abolishes-the-death-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-196271</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Position That Might Surprise You...&lt;/strong&gt;

You folks know that I support the death penalty  indeed, my major criticisms are that it is not imposed fast enough or frequently enough. But upon reading of New Jerseys decision to do away with the death penalty, my......</description>
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<p>You folks know that I support the death penalty  indeed, my major criticisms are that it is not imposed fast enough or frequently enough. But upon reading of New Jerseys decision to do away with the death penalty, my&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al in St. Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al in St. Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On December 14th, 2007 at 8:26 am, 30 pcs of silver said:&lt;blockquote&gt;I live in NJ - we moved here after my husband accepted a position with a pharmaceutical company here. Lots of pharma in NJ.

Otherwise, we wouldn’t be here.

Our time here is numbered. We don’t plan to make this place our home forever. My husband is a country boy and I reckon we’ll be moving down south eventually. I couldn’t be happier about that prospect. &lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve heard that so long as you stay away from Camden, the south is a lovely place to live. So, just pick a place between Cherry Hill and Toms River, and you should be happy as a lark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On December 14th, 2007 at 8:26 am, 30 pcs of silver said:<br />
<blockquote>I live in NJ &#8211; we moved here after my husband accepted a position with a pharmaceutical company here. Lots of pharma in NJ.</p>
<p>Otherwise, we wouldn’t be here.</p>
<p>Our time here is numbered. We don’t plan to make this place our home forever. My husband is a country boy and I reckon we’ll be moving down south eventually. I couldn’t be happier about that prospect. </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that so long as you stay away from Camden, the south is a lovely place to live. So, just pick a place between Cherry Hill and Toms River, and you should be happy as a lark.</p>
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		<title>By: chow</title>
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		<dc:creator>chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
On December 14th, 2007 at 9:49 am, Rusty said:
Liberals cutting costs! I’m surprised more people aren’t hailing this as progress!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The only justifiable cost which should be expended to death row inmates is the cost of a .308 round. Any cost above that are costs incurred by the lefty&#039;s legal wrangling to postpone the finding of a jury of the criminals peers.</description>
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On December 14th, 2007 at 9:49 am, Rusty said:<br />
Liberals cutting costs! I’m surprised more people aren’t hailing this as progress!</p></blockquote>
<p>The only justifiable cost which should be expended to death row inmates is the cost of a .308 round. Any cost above that are costs incurred by the lefty&#8217;s legal wrangling to postpone the finding of a jury of the criminals peers.</p>
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		<title>By: James Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honest debate is important if we ever hope to accomplish anything. In that spirit I&#039;d like to clarify something. 

Being anti-capital punshishment does not necessarily translate into soft on crime. I do not for one second think that &quot;the misguided soul (should) be able to rehabilitate himself and maybe find peace and a hobby&quot;. Quite the contrary. I think the fact that inmates have access to gyms, videogames and educations that would cost me tens of thousands of dollars is an outrage. The fact that so many members of the criminal class consider a stretch of jail time to be a status symbol shows that it is not nearly a fearsome enough place. 

Being against the death penalty also does not necessarily mean I don&#039;t think &lt;em&gt;plenty&lt;/em&gt; of people deserve it. I have often read that something like half the violent crime in this country is committed by a mere 5% of the criminal population. Clearly the world would be better off if this group of hardcore recidivists was done away with. 

My opposition to capital punishment comes from only one source: I believe the fact is that our system is deeply flawed. Although I believe most people act in good faith it&#039;s undeniable that there are cops, prosecutors and judges who pursue their own agendas without regard to actual justice (I speak from experience here, my father is just such a person). History has also proven that the system is extremely succeptable to being influenced by money, or the lack thereof.  

I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s wise to give something so self-evidently inefficient the power to legally kill. As conservatives we are proponents of limited government, thinking (with good reason!) that government cannot be trusted with too much authority. How then can we trust it with the authority to kill its citizens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honest debate is important if we ever hope to accomplish anything. In that spirit I&#8217;d like to clarify something. </p>
<p>Being anti-capital punshishment does not necessarily translate into soft on crime. I do not for one second think that &#8220;the misguided soul (should) be able to rehabilitate himself and maybe find peace and a hobby&#8221;. Quite the contrary. I think the fact that inmates have access to gyms, videogames and educations that would cost me tens of thousands of dollars is an outrage. The fact that so many members of the criminal class consider a stretch of jail time to be a status symbol shows that it is not nearly a fearsome enough place. </p>
<p>Being against the death penalty also does not necessarily mean I don&#8217;t think <em>plenty</em> of people deserve it. I have often read that something like half the violent crime in this country is committed by a mere 5% of the criminal population. Clearly the world would be better off if this group of hardcore recidivists was done away with. </p>
<p>My opposition to capital punishment comes from only one source: I believe the fact is that our system is deeply flawed. Although I believe most people act in good faith it&#8217;s undeniable that there are cops, prosecutors and judges who pursue their own agendas without regard to actual justice (I speak from experience here, my father is just such a person). History has also proven that the system is extremely succeptable to being influenced by money, or the lack thereof.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wise to give something so self-evidently inefficient the power to legally kill. As conservatives we are proponents of limited government, thinking (with good reason!) that government cannot be trusted with too much authority. How then can we trust it with the authority to kill its citizens?</p>
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		<title>By: bloghooligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloghooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well considering nj hasn&#039;t used the death penalty in over 40 years I will not say this will result in higher crime.  What I will say is that this will do nothing for NJs budget which is how it&#039;s been sold.  This will save just money for our politcians to send 10 times more.  NJ is the most dysfunctional state in the union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well considering nj hasn&#8217;t used the death penalty in over 40 years I will not say this will result in higher crime.  What I will say is that this will do nothing for NJs budget which is how it&#8217;s been sold.  This will save just money for our politcians to send 10 times more.  NJ is the most dysfunctional state in the union.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That argument is all over this thread. People are speculating that NJ&#039;s murder rate will skyrocket. Which is of course crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That argument is all over this thread. People are speculating that NJ&#8217;s murder rate will skyrocket. Which is of course crazy.</p>
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