Blue-on-blue catfight: Kos turns on Harry Reid; Update: Dodd stymies Reid on FISA bill, nutroots cheer
Update 9:30pm Eastern. This isn’t getting much attention outside of the lefty blogs, but tonight Harry Reid withdrew the FISA overhaul bill after Kos champion Chris Dodd threatened to filibuster it over telecom immunity provisions. The bill has bipartisan support. It is now tabled until next month.
More details:
Facing divisions among Senate Democrats, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has postponed debate on reauthorizing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act until January.
Although Reid won a cloture vote earlier in the day allowing the FISA debate to begin, he still faced heavy pressure from his own Caucus on amendments that could be offered to the base bill, which was a version of the legislation approved by the Intelligence Committee. Facing these concerns, Reid decided to delay final action on the legislation until the Senate returns for the second session of the 110th Congress, which means no work on the FISA bill until at least mid-January.
“I’ve spoken to a number of senators [involved in the FISA debate], and everyone feels it would be to the best interests of the Senate that we take a look at this when we can come back at the first of the year and resume this,” Reid said on the floor Thursday night.
Update: More lefty piling on. Dirty Harry manages to unite the left and right against him.
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Mwrrrrooowr. Nutroots King Kos has turned on Harry Reid–yes, the same Harry Reid who brought down the house at the Kos convention last year.
See the blue-on-blue break up here and here. Spits Kos:
In short, “holds” bottle up legislation if Republicans place them. Not so much if Democrats do.
And here I thought Reid was the Democratic majority leader. I’m done with him.
Dodd for majority leader!
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Ha ha!
I love it when they eat their young.
So Kos finally shows their true colors. All they care about is having pot legalized. Because everyone smoked wee *dude* there’d be no wars *dude*
That’s all good and well, however the right blogosphere has turned on just about every single Republican I can think of as well, so at this point it is a draw.
Technically, blue-on-blue means that both sides are Friendly or American/Coalition. Strictly speaking, I would classify this incident as Red-on-Red.
Kind of matches the whole communist thing, too…
Good point. OPFOR fighting OPFOR or orange on orange.
I like the poll - as many of those fruitcakes like him as are undecided - weird group.
Reid has to be the best ‘trojan horse’ we could have hoped for.
Almost sounds like a friendly fire exchange. Those of use with Military backgrounds know “friendly fire” is anything but friendly. Reid deserves the scorn of us all he has given aid and comfort to the enemy while trying to demoralize our troops in the field.
ArmoredCAV hope your sector continues to be quiet and calm. Stay safe over there!
If we were filming a comedy, I’d say put them in a chain-link fenced off area, give them both a bottle of whiskey and nerf bats and then just deal with one that’s standing tomorrow.
Awwwwwwwwww
The sacrifices Dodd is making?
*tears up*
Poor little guy…
Reid will resign as majority leader so that he can spend more time searching for Tommy.
Almost worth signing up at KOS just to get in the mix and have some fun.
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Don’t do it bro.
Jane Hamsher is touting the petition by Glen Greenwald in support of Dodd as well
Soap, I think getting tazed would be a better option than signing up for KOS, though you do get a free ACLU card.
Calling this a catfight is an insult to good wholesome cat fights that have come before it
I think it’s better to title it Pink Vs. Pink or Yellow Bellies vs. Yellow bellies.
The liberals aren’t loyal to anything or anyone.
Ever.
This is more of a kitten fight. Besides, everyone knows Moveon and Soros are the true evil Overlords and Mastrs who hold the puppets strings. Kos was nothing but and upstart and a kiddie usurper trying to play in big-boy pants. He doesn’t have the money to back up his rhettoric the way Soros and his cronies and minions do, so Reid could care what Kos has to say.
This is a clear case of pinkos punking ‘Pinky’
Evidence Kos is a nobody follower cowing the Townhouse email talking point of the day pretending it’s an original thought.
The Nutroots have been saying this for weeks and King Kos just parrots the line like he made it up.
Group thought trying to be original.
lay down with dogs; wake up with fleas!!!
I’m thinking more Stink on Stink. Kinda like two skunks backin into each other.
Thanks for the mental image there AJ. You need some coffee and I need a brain douche.
More like dumber and dumberer.
I followed the link to the Kos leadership vote regarding Reid’s job in the Senate. As of now, 91% against. And that’s on the nutroot’s site. Harry’s parents must be very proud
Nanny Nanny Boo Boo –
Stick Your Head in Doo Doo
Blue on Blue. Are they all holding their collective breath? Let’s hope so! Problem is, they will pass out and start breathing again. Nuts.
Yeah singing in two part harmony with Mother Sheehan who wants to impeach Pelosi even though that legal procedure does not exist in the law.
He’s a uniter, not a divider…
Right now Dodd has his head up his butt in that he is suggesting that the whole internet is being stored away by the NSA.
Would anyone care to calculate just how many times the entire world production of hard drives that would be required to store even one hour worth of that traffic?
You have to understand even Dodd is saying it was selective in what they pulled out.
Also due to the optical nature of the transmissions this is a capability that was already required under the CALEA legislation.
Lay down with firedogs, wake up with firefleas.
If you buy into Dodd’s premise the NSA would need bandwith equal to the entire backbone structure of the internet to feed it back somewhere for storage.
That capability simply does not exist.
ajmontana said:
“I’m thinking more Stink on Stink. Kinda like two skunks backin into each other.”
lol….that’s good. Had an experience like that this summer, only it was under the back porch & the STANK! lasted well into the fall. Drove the Coons off for awhile.
ROFLMAO… As a life long Connecticut resident all I can say is bring it on Chris Dodd is Connecticut’s Ted Kennedy.
You constantly say Kos is on the liberal end of the Democratic party. Why should he occasionally not be disappointed with what the mainstream of the party does? You have no problem criticizing Republican party decisions (Hariet Meyers, drug benefit, illegal worker amnesty proposal, …).
Dodd is now arguing about checks and balances aspects.
What is totally missed like the forest for the trees is that the FISA legislation as a whole is a total intrusion on the intelligence gathering authorized by the constitution to the Commander in Chief.
Let us speculate how much congress would love being required to have a staff member of the cabinet sit in on all their hearings and have to approve all their actions, yet they seem to have no issue with congress inserting the judicial branch into the intelligence gathering by the executive branch.
I doubt they would like Supreme Court staff sitting in on their actions either.
Congress has oversight, the FISA law as a whole is to me an unconstitutional intrusion into the prerogatives of the Commander in Chief.
Heh.
Harold Schaitburger, the General President for the IAFF, the Fireman’s Union, gave the full support of the Union to Dodd for Pres. I am still trying to figure out why. Four years ago it was for Kerry. THis time for Dodd. The kicker is, we have a majority of Republicans in the Union. He is constantly saying that he takes a poll of the membership and that is how the decision in made, yet I , nor anyone I know, have ever received said questionaire.
Everytime I hear Dodd speak, or hear of something he has said or done, I am constantly reminded of the choice that the largest representative of North American Firefighters has made to lead the Free World. Yes, Schaiburger, in his quest to be Labor Secretary has once again sold out the membership, only this time, sold us out to a real NUTJOB.
Oh well, could have been worse, While he threw us under the train of an anti-American nutjob, at least he didn’t put us on board the train with the engineer like Kucinich
Even if we had the technical capability to gather up the whole telecom steam, just how many analysts would it take to figure out the whole mess to start with.
I voted NO in the poll, it was 91% you don’t have to join to vote.
Unless the NSA has some storage means like a technology transfer from area 51, just the data center would have to cover a few counties just for the computer data farm.
Plus they would probably need their own nuclear power plant just to provide the electricity to run the place.
#35 no doubt you recall when Teddy K. and Dodd made a sandwich with an unwilling waitress in the middle?
I recall lots of blog junkies saying they never met a Mormon who was not personable and friendly. Perhaps Reid is the exception to the rule? And of course the stories of kickbacks, nepotism and such gain no traction in the dinosaur media.
The DUmmies were saying the same thing this morning.
Except for a nap this afternoon I have been watching Cspan 2 with the FISA debate all day.
Someone needs to give these clowns a lecture on Internet 101.
Wow
Reid finally has a little sense.
He is shelving the FISA debate until after the xmas recess to get on with the other bills that are in the lineup that need to be passed before the recess for xmas.
why should we care who Kos is puking on today?
it will be different tomorrow.
but bear, anytime Tommy Reid eats a lawn sausage it’s most excellente news….
IMHO of course.
Reid was never been the kossack’s first choice, anyway. He’s too meek for their taste. They want a firebrand who’s willing to totally disregard the senate’s longstanding tradition of decorum, someone who will take off his shoe and bang on the lectern like Kruschev did at the UN.
FireDogLake is supporting the Glenn Greenwald petition in support of the Dodd amendment.
aj #48 - “lawn sausage” - never heard that before - ROFL!!
When you play with skunks, you’re gonna get that stink on you.
Hey Harry, how’s that smelling now?
On my soap box,
Nothing’s worth that kind of torture…
Jim C
Next year is fine Mr. Weasel Reid…why I do believe it will be election season and this bill will be an excellent reminder to Americans why Democrat candidates are unworthy of being in office.
The ads showing all of the Democrats voting every time against the protection of the American public will be wonderful all year long.
Mamma used to say they were so ugly you had to tie a
pork choplawn sausage around their necks to get them to play with each other. I never knew she was speaking about liberals - until now.Kos and the rest of the far left blogs are celebrating the pushing back of FISA into next year in the hopes they can gain support by then to stop the telecom provisions.
They had all year and now they figure they can change it all by next month.
It’s a shame that the Right-wing blogosphere is so flat-footed on this issue. If amnesty is bad for migrants who break the law, why isn’t amnesty bad for telecom companies who break the law? I’d argue that the concept of amnesty for things that are still considered crimes should be universally repugnant to people who believe in the rule of law. It only encourages more lawbreaking in the future.
vote for Dodd!!!
Champion of the oppressed.
/ sarc tag
Harry Reid reminds me so much of Uriah Heep…..
What’s really funny is to read the comments on Kos! I really love watching them eat their own.
Just so you understand…
The FISA overhaul bill doesn’t provide amnesty for the telecoms. It provides immunity from civil suits arising from the telecoms role in cooperating with the government in the protection of our nation.
It would be a beautiful thing if the trial lawyers were to bring their resources to bear on illegals, but don’t hold your breath waiting. The illegals’ pocket aren’t that deep.
My cat strongly disagrees with the characterization of the Kos-Reid festivities as a “cat fight”. He feels that the antics of the dhimmicrats are not representative of the standards and practices of his species and breed. Further, he states that his first reaction on encountering either individual would be to bury them in his litter box with the rest of their politics. He calls on Michelle to apologize to him and all felines for this foul slur or he will turn around and show you all his Hukkabutton…
I did it. What is Conservatism?
My idea was to find any gaps in my own arguments. A handful of people had inteligent responses, but the majority suffer from severe BDS. You can’t use logic to argue against someone only using emotion.
Cooperation which was
illegal. Amnesty, immunity — whatever you want to call it. The bottom line is that they’re being given protection from repercussions related to their illegal activities. It’s a rewarding of lawlessness.
They could sue Mexico, for encouraging illegal migration. And if Congress sought immunity for the Mexican government for their illegal migration promotion activities, the Right would be (rightly so) crying foul.
KaosKlerik, I was intrigued by your post on Kos and applaud your efforts… Had a lot of thoughts regarding their responses but didn’t wish to take this thread too off-topic.
Thanks.
My actual point was that we shouldn’t be afraid to go into the belly of the beast and occasionally respond over there. Always politely!
The regular nuts over there won’t be swayed, but polite reason might find root in the mind of some of the more moderate readers.
For instance, I’d be willing to bet not one person over there has brought up that it’s civil immunity, not criminal. It would prevent the trial lawyers from suing them and syphoning off millions of dollars, mostly for the trial lawyers.