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1. #1
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:02 pm, FloridaBill said:

   You have GOT to be kidding me?

2. #2
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:05 pm, Prime Director said:

   Vieyra promised them that the process — even in make-believe — would frustrate them.

   Unlimited immigration to the US should be frustrated. Foreigners have no right to immigrate to the US.

   Immigration is a privilege that should be granted to a select few whose presence will prove beneficial to the community. Immigration is a tool that should be used to further the national interests of the US, not the individual interest of each and every individual who dreams of a higher standard of living.

   Each applicant should be able to answer the question: what do you bring to the table, other than an appetite?

3. #3
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:06 pm, stonemeister said:

   Next, the students should be tasked with casing a bank, writing a “this is a holdup note”, finding and stealing a good getaway vehicle, coming up with guns and ammo, masks, sufficient accomplices.

   Just wanted to give the kids an understanding of how much work goes into robbing a bank.

4. #4
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:06 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

   I take it, that this is a class to learn how to speak Spanish. If it is, I thought the purpose is to teach Spanish, not illegal immigration procedures. Somebody’s money is being wasted.

5. #5
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:10 pm, FloridaBill said:

   Empathy?

   How about some empathy for those of us who have to foot the bill and deal with the problems caused by these people (gangs, murders, and etc.).

   Enforce the LAW.

6. #6
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:13 pm, zorro said:

   This is the fifth year that Vieyra has assigned this project to students in her Spanish V class. Each year someone, a teacher perhaps, maybe just a friend, cringes: “They say, ‘That’s such a hot topic. Are you sure you want to go there?’ ”

   She always answers yes. But she cautions that the point isn’t to sway the students, only to teach them a little empathy.

   This has been going on for FIVE years? That’s very hard to believe, where are the parents? And as for empathy, the USA is arguably the most generous and kind nation the world has ever known! Do we need that nitwit teaching our children HER interpretation of empathy? I think not.

7. #7
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pm, Boomer said:

   Why didn’t she just teach them to steal someone’s identity too while she was at it. Obviously the rule of law means nothing anymore in our Education system. It amazes me she has been able to get away with this for five years now. I am completely disgusted that US tax dollars are paying this woman’s salary. Fred is right the biggest threat to education in this country is the NEA.

8. #8
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:26 pm, CommentGuy said:

   It has been discovered there is an amendment in the omnibus spending bill that guts the funding or at least alters the requirements so that it would no longer be required to build the border fence.

9. #9
   On December 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pm, TK-421 said:

   I agree that the stardard way to come in is a bit, will over politicalized, but wow that woman gots all kinds of crazy. Though if the US Economically fails, and the Regions to our South become better off those kids will be way ahead of the rest of us in border jumping.

   And prime Director, I disagree with you 100%. What you bring to the table doesn’t mean your worth, your ability does. After all under your System only those with money would make it. Please note here in the homeland many “Poor dumb” farmers, and coal miners (children there of, and themselves) ended up doing great things in the technical field for this country. And in the case, such as the Vietnamese ammnesty we owed that to them, thanks to our weak wills, many died there that had trust in us.

10. #10
    On December 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pm, brooklyn red said:

    This is so wrong in so many ways. It is way past social, moral or political… it is criminal.

    Members of Congress & nationally syndicated media openly commit treason & encourage sedition on a daily basis.

    I for one want a candidate (for President)who will swear an oath to uphold our existing laws.

    Is that too much to ask? Damnit!

11. #11
    On December 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Reason #98548680854877334584867812151567245456468 to homeschool your kids.

    No liberal agenda disguised as “learning”…

12. #12
    On December 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    ‘humanitarian’ issue?

    This is what is wrong with our country. Our teachers are teaching CRAP. This is a SPANISH language class. TEACH SPANISH.

    She might as well have told them to try working to earn money for a car. Now go rob a bank. If you see the frustration, you will understand the issue of why people need to be allowed to rob banks.

    Spanish teachers need to teach Spanish, not politics and law breaking.

13. #13
    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Excuse me, but why are my tax dollars going to teach Spanish in the first place?

14. #14
    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pm, Speakup said:

    Vieyra promised them that the process — even in make-believe — would frustrate them.

    And yet…They come by the millions.
    Apparently there’s more to this issue than frustration.

15. #15
    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pm, donnab13 said:

    There are two other scenarios she forgot to include…she should have them imagine that they are people wanting to immigrate to this country and put them through the hoops, then have a line of other people just run by without regard or respect to what they have already been through…see what empathy they feel.
    Then she should have them work a job, earn their own money, set a budget with monthly bills, and have them go grocery shopping with what little they have left ,and check out behind non english speaking people who hand over a government card to get their groceries with the money that had been taken out of their hard earned tax dollars, and watch those people also get $250 in change. Lets talk empathy then.

16. #16
    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pm, brooklyn red said:
    Excuse me, but why are my tax dollars going to teach Spanish in the first place?

    All 5 of our children had to take two years of foreign language. English never made the list. School systems HAVE to provide spanish speaking teachers but the students are rarely required to learn english.

17. #17
    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:49 pm, allrsn said:

    Prision

18. #18
    On December 17th, 2007 at 10:52 pm, deepdiver said:

    When 3 sets of my paternal great-grandparents immigrated to the US early 20th century from Germany and Austria, they had to have a legal resident sponsor already here AND they had to prove that they were either educated or were skilled labor. Relatives of friends of theirs were denied admission because they were not skilled/educated workers. This according to my 2 great grandmothers who lived until my mid-teens. When they got to Ellis Island, part of the application process for admission, besides health screening, was to provide information and/or proof of employability.

    I agree with Prime Directive that before being admitted to this nation a person should still have to prove these things. I think that is what s/he means by “what they bring to the table.” There are good reasons for this. Primarily, we have an issue that new immigrants use more in social services as a group than they pay for in taxes as a group. If we are going to allow non-citizens to access our social services, we MUST ensure that those immigrants at least have the skills and/or education to be gainfully employed.

19. #19
    On December 17th, 2007 at 11:02 pm, Prime Director said:

    prime Director, I disagree with you 100%.

    How can you fully disagree with a position you don’t fully comprehend?

    What you bring to the table doesn’t mean your worth, your ability does.

    This in no way contradicts my position.

    We need educated workers, people with marketable skills, people with a demonstrable understanding of and appreciation for American history and culture.

    Our community does not have an unlimited capacity to absorb uneducated, unskilled immigrants. We should choose to admit those applicants who are judged to have the best potential to integrate themselves into American society and make positive contributions to the community.

    All limited resources must be rationed, so some criteria that maximizes the benefit from immigration must be employed in order to make it worthwhile.

    After all under your System only those with money would make it.

    You’re simply wrong.

    Being educated or possessed of marketable skills and having a demonstrable understanding of and appreciation for American history and culture doesn’t necessarily entail being wealthy.

    But even if it did, so what?

    Immigration is a tool that should serve the interests of our community. How does granting every poor foreigner a right to enter, reside, work and utilize institution resources in America serve the interests of the American people? I submit that it in fact it does not.

    Please note here in the homeland many “Poor dumb” farmers, and coal miners (children there of, and themselves) ended up doing great things in the technical field for this country

    Duly noted.

    So what?

    And in the case, such as the Vietnamese ammnesty we owed that to them, thanks to our weak wills, many died there that had trust in us.

    The vietnamese refugees represent an exceptional case, not a representative example on which to base a general rule.

    In the case of the Vietnamese refugees, we repaid a debt that our people incurred during the Vietnam War. To a large degree, their plight was the result of American foreign policy, so their guaranteeing their continued well-being was our responsibility.

    This is not the case with most prospective immigrants.

20. #20
    On December 17th, 2007 at 11:05 pm, shooter said:

    this is so maddening and ignorant I either have to say nothing, or write a novella on the idiocy.
    I don’t have the time for the novella.

    Glad I don’t live there.

21. #21
    On December 17th, 2007 at 11:08 pm, James Felix said:

    Vieyra promised them that the process — even in make-believe — would frustrate them.

    Newsflash for Ms. Vieyra…

    Breaking the law is supposed to be frustrating.

22. #22
    On December 17th, 2007 at 11:11 pm, James Felix said:

    Our community does not have an unlimited capacity to absorb uneducated, unskilled immigrants. We should choose to admit those applicants who are judged to have the best potential to integrate themselves into American society and make positive contributions to the community.

    That seems to work for every other nation on the planet. It’s a damn shame that such a position is even controversial.

23. #23
    On December 17th, 2007 at 11:21 pm, pakurilecz said:

    It’s obvious that she doesn’t know the first thing about the immigration process, she had them fill out the forms. but there is a structured process. did she forget the interviews that applicants undergo or did she just assume that all Hispanic applicants are automatically denied?

    the process isn’t meant to be easy

24. #24
    On December 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pm, CommentGuy said:

    The funding bill has listed 15 requirements that must be met for the funding for the fence to be released so the fence can be built.

25. #25
    On December 18th, 2007 at 12:10 am, Texhoma said:

    And then, after they spent days completing the actual paperwork from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, she took out her red ink pad and stamped a big, fat DENIED across every request.

    For some reason I would be willing to bet my hard earned money that this teacher never told her students that less than 1% of all those illegals have ever seen Immigration Forms, even less filled them out, and even less saw a form with the word DENIED stamped in RED on the form.

    These illegals didn’t want to go through the process of coming here legally. They had no desire to become legal United States Citizens. They only wanted to come here and make money so they can sent it back home.

26. #26
    On December 18th, 2007 at 12:13 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Now, she told the students, come illegally. Forge your documents, find a way across the border.

    And get your butts thrown right back out.

    OK, we can only hope. Wishful thinking.

27. #27
    On December 18th, 2007 at 12:57 am, old trooper said:

    This is just another example of folks that hold their Citizenship cheap and want to cheapen it for those who prize it.

    Forging documents, lying, breaking numerous Federal Laws are just a small part of their agenda. No respect for Law brings forth the promise of the inevitable destruction of this Nation.

    This teacher needs to be fired and get get her sorry a$$ out of the “indoctrination” business.

28. #28
    On December 18th, 2007 at 12:58 am, puhiawa said:

    This is what passes for normal among Democrats. I face it every day. They hate America enough to destroy it.

29. #29
    On December 18th, 2007 at 1:01 am, puhiawa said:

    On December 18th, 2007 at 12:57 am, old trooper
    exactly

30. #30
    On December 18th, 2007 at 2:01 am, Bogtrotter said:

    Of course, she is only trying to enlighten her students. The fact that learning about Frida Kahlo, the “militant communist” (according to the result of a google search), is just one of those things and has nothing at all to do with her own beliefs. Yeah, right.

31. #31
    On December 18th, 2007 at 2:11 am, SteveG said:

    She’s an idiot.

    Illegals come to the US and then buy forged documents. Getting caught at the border with forged documents gets you held over. So you buy them after you get here, in any major southwestern city (cheaper and more reliable closer to the border) along the way for $50.
    Every Mexican national you run into knows where to get them. And every Mexican throughout Mexico knows not to be caught holding false documents while crossing.

    Job application?
    You are kidding me.
    Mexicans are relentless networkers and will consistently ask everyone who even looks remotely in charge if they have jobs.
    Good workers will promise their cousin or brother will work just as hard and lobby exhaustingly for them.
    I-9 Form? si… application? no

    Bank?
    Please
    1% check cashing
    Picture ID (Mexican ID card OK). Fingerprint, photo entered into computer
    Send money orders home.
    The Syrian owned liquor store a few blocks away is packed on payday.
    Three registers ringing with one bilingual Mexican running the show.
    Then they their brothers back for the $5000 loan for the coyote.

    Place to live?
    Move in with your brother and 8 other extended family members.
    Pay cash.
    No rental agreement

    I could go on and on, but let’s leave it by saying the underground railroad has nothing over these guys.

    Another last thing.
    Hardly anyone comes here without support.
    “Pioneers” are rare and almost all Mexican transplants are taught the ropes by a friend or family member.
    Then word gets out there are jobs at even the most remote locations if you work hard and can take tough conditions.
    Next thing you know all the people shoveling snow in Sun Valley ID are Mexican, everyone slopping up after the meat cutters in Grand Banks NB is Mexican, Miners shoveling coal in Utah are Mexican… plus Mexicans are real competitive about working real hard for low wage at tough jobs… the first wave of workers isn’t there to screw around and they know they have to be cheap, fast, tough and make the “illegal” negative easier to explain away

32. #32
    On December 18th, 2007 at 3:28 am, CarpiJugulum said:

    Guess her teaching the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago is not high on her priority list.

33. #33
    On December 18th, 2007 at 4:50 am, graysonret said:

    Just shows the indoctrination of our kids into the liberal philosophy. 2 of the biggest lessons, kids learn (required for graduation) is: “I am not responsible”, and “I am entitled.” After that is open the borders, hate Bush/conservatives, punish mankind for global warming, America is evil, give enemies a “hug” and they will be nice to us. No wonder we have to look abroad for scientists/engineers.

34. #34
    On December 18th, 2007 at 7:54 am, orlandocajun said:

    The process was frustrating. That’s such a sad story. Another perfect example of liberals working hard to undermine America… Is there any school in the latino world that’s teaching kids to make their own country better so they don’t have to invade another? Now that would be foregign aid that I could live with.

35. #35
    On December 18th, 2007 at 8:09 am, Beaker1214 said:

    Too many times, teachers violate the trust placed upon them by their profession. They cross the line from education into indoctrination. This appears to be the case, here. She isn’t teaching “Spanish”; she’s teaching criminal activity. Since this is an advanced Spanish class, there would be a mix of Spanish language and culture in the curriculum. This is fine, as the Spanish culture is rich and long. It’s a shame; however, that she has to warp what should be a great cultural opportunity into a socio-political statement using using these young men and women as her pawns. This surely is a waste for the parents/taxpayers, a waste of a teacher, and, most importantly, a wasteful disservice for the students.

36. #36
    On December 18th, 2007 at 8:13 am, TexasTiger said:

    Have to love the school district’s mission statement, “Our mission is to facilitate maximum learning for every student.”

    What’s wrong with “Our mission is to teach”?

37. #37
    On December 18th, 2007 at 8:16 am, TexasTiger said:

    What say we hire an illegal to replace Erica Vieyra? The school could save money, promote diversity and have a snappier looking lawn.

38. #38
    On December 18th, 2007 at 8:22 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Words escape me.

39. #39
    On December 18th, 2007 at 9:46 am, Laree said:

    This is incredible, and nothing happens right, this stays in the cirriculum?

40. #40
    On December 18th, 2007 at 9:56 am, derel3433 said:

    another reminder as to why i homeschool mine.

    some reality they don’t need to know.

41. #41
    On December 18th, 2007 at 11:11 am, WarTip said:

    How is this any different than federally (Read: Taxpayer) funded teaching of Islam in our schools?

    How is any of this relevant to an education which will help students become competitive in an ever-expanding global market?

    But at least the teacher can feel good right?

42. #42
    On December 18th, 2007 at 3:00 pm, MrVIBEMAN said:

    Just sent this message:

    Dear Miss Vieyra,

    I read about your teaching activities on an informative and very respectable website today.

    Having been born and educated in Ohio, I can only say ‘Thank God’ that I moved and don’t have to subject my children to your warped vision of empathy.

    If you really want to know what people think about your ‘empathy instruction’ please visit this site:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/17/open-borders-101/

    Most sincerely,

    (My name here)
    Engineer, Disabled Veteran, Former Buckeye

    PS. I copied your local Board of Education, Alumni Association, Education Association, and Principal to ensure they are aware of what you are teaching in your classroom.

    Here’s a list of the email addresses for anyone who’s interested.

    erica_vieyra@olentangy.k12.oh.us
    teri_meider@olentangy.k12.oh.us
    brad_reynolds@olentangy.k12.oh.us
    barry_jamieson@olentangy.k12.oh.us
    scott_galloway@olentangy.k12.oh.us
    julie_wagner_feasel@olentangy.k12.oh.us
    jos@columbus.rr.com Mark_raiff@olentangy.k12.oh.us

43. #43
    On December 18th, 2007 at 3:42 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    Also according to her blog, her Spanish students watched and studied the film Volver. Oh, that’s rated R you say? And a teacher showed it to her class? I’m shocked — shocked I tell you!! Thank God for our small Catholic school.

44. #44
    On December 18th, 2007 at 6:55 pm, GaijinBob said:

    I wonder what would have happened if a student snuck into the school office, copied her personal information from their files, then returned to class featuring his forged documents complete with her social security number.

45. #45
    On December 19th, 2007 at 2:12 pm, JohnHolliday said:

    Here’s what I put in an email to the teacher. Doubt she’ll answer but it’s the truth.

    So, your students should have empathy for the illegal immigrants? What about the empathy for all of the hospitals that are closing because the illegal immigrants are using the emergency rooms as their clinic? What about the people put out of work by this? Are they entitled to your empathy? If not, why not? They are hard working U.S. citizens that pay the taxes that keep YOU in your job! Have you forgotten that?

    How about sending your students on a field trip to a hospital where the emergency room is crowded with illegal immigrants? Have them try to get seen by a doctor. Then have them do this role playing project: they have to “move” into that neighborhood, have kids and then have one get sick or injured and take them to that emergency room. Oops! Sorry, that hospital just closed because they went bankrupt. No money coming in because all the people they treat are illegal immigrants that don’t pay. However, not to worry; YOU still have YOUR comfortable government job.

    Despite what anyone may think, health care is not a right. You actually have to pay for it. Hospitals MUST be run like a business because if they aren’t, they will close. Then to whom do we turn? The government? If the government ran the health care system, no one would have adequate care. Maybe that’s the entire point of your agenda; overload the hospitals with illegal immigrants and have them close so socialized medicine looks good. Socialized health care is just that, socialism. Why don’t you tell your students this quote from Winston Churchill – The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

    How many hard working U.S. citizens have to be put out of work so your dream of socialist misery can become a reality?

    How about this for a role playing game for her students? They have to move to Guatemala and try to illegally immigrate to Mexico. She can have all of the girls go interview rape victims so they can understand what happens to the women that illegally immigate to Mexico. The boys can interview people freed from slavery so they can understand what happens to men that illegally immigrate to Mexico.

    My son was indoctrinated into this nonsense, too. In his art class (yes ART), he went to a “museum” that showed him the respirators the farm workers use so they don’t have to breathe the fumes from the pesticides. The “docent” used the term “undocumented workers.”

    Your tax dollars hard at work. Against you!