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	<title>Comments on: Bilal Hussein update: Military details collaboration, MSM still in denial</title>
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		<title>By: Media Mythbusters Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The &#8220;Silly Hat&#8221; Hit Piece &#38; Journalist Ethics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Mythbusters Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The &#8220;Silly Hat&#8221; Hit Piece &#38; Journalist Ethics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] telling you. Can we trust the MSM on anything anymore? They use insurgents to report on stories in a war zone, they use pseudonyms for sources without letting their readers know they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] telling you.&#160; Can we trust the MSM on anything anymore?&#160; They use insurgents to report on stories in a war zone, they use pseudonyms for sources without letting their readers know they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d like to say that the media will examine their coverage of the war after a decent interval but they don’t want to know how badly they screwed up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When your brother offers you the kool-aid, just say no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’d like to say that the media will examine their coverage of the war after a decent interval but they don’t want to know how badly they screwed up.</p></blockquote>
<p>When your brother offers you the kool-aid, just say no.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarryD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re long past the point were we have a strong, if mostly circumstantial, case that the AP &lt;em&gt;et al&lt;/em&gt; have knowingly participated in anti-American propaganda &lt;em&gt;during a time of war&lt;/em&gt;.

Since all the evidence is from open sources, a legal case could (and I think should) be brought.  At a minimum, the AP should be declared a hostile organization and de-legitimized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re long past the point were we have a strong, if mostly circumstantial, case that the AP <em>et al</em> have knowingly participated in anti-American propaganda <em>during a time of war</em>.</p>
<p>Since all the evidence is from open sources, a legal case could (and I think should) be brought.  At a minimum, the AP should be declared a hostile organization and de-legitimized.</p>
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		<title>By: IdiotCroissant</title>
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		<dc:creator>IdiotCroissant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s not surprising that the MSM is willing to dull the edges on this story.  Indirectly, Bilal Hussein is their employee.  The Associated Press is a “non-profit” cooperative owned by 1,500 daily newspapers across the country.  Directives to the Associated Press come from the Board of Directors (which includes representatives from the most widely read dailies).  

This particular piece (New York Times) is missing some key points as Michelle points out.  Then again, Mary Jacobus is on the Board of Directors of the Associated Press, and she holds the position of  President and Chief Operating Officer of the New York Times Regional Media Group.  

In short, there are very few newspapers (or media conglomerates) that can report this story without a conflict of interest since they participate, benefit, and depend on the Associated Press to exist.  I think the thing that bothers me beyond the fact that their pieces are void of facts is the failure to acknowledge their relationship with the Associated Press so that it is up front and personal…
Cheers,
IC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not surprising that the MSM is willing to dull the edges on this story.  Indirectly, Bilal Hussein is their employee.  The Associated Press is a “non-profit” cooperative owned by 1,500 daily newspapers across the country.  Directives to the Associated Press come from the Board of Directors (which includes representatives from the most widely read dailies).  </p>
<p>This particular piece (New York Times) is missing some key points as Michelle points out.  Then again, Mary Jacobus is on the Board of Directors of the Associated Press, and she holds the position of  President and Chief Operating Officer of the New York Times Regional Media Group.  </p>
<p>In short, there are very few newspapers (or media conglomerates) that can report this story without a conflict of interest since they participate, benefit, and depend on the Associated Press to exist.  I think the thing that bothers me beyond the fact that their pieces are void of facts is the failure to acknowledge their relationship with the Associated Press so that it is up front and personal…<br />
Cheers,<br />
IC</p>
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		<title>By: coffee260</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffee260</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, You thought I haven&#039;t been up to par with regard to your coverage of this story. You wrote: &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I don’t think you’ve been folowing my coverage closely.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

However, I have been following this story closely. I&#039;ve read your coverage along with many other blogs. 

You&#039;re not the only person reporting on this story who&#039;ve pointed out the dubiousness of using foreign stringers. Too be dubious doesn&#039;t necessarily mean there is malevolence involved. In my opinion, there is malevolence involved.  

Let me explain it like this. 

I&#039;ve read extensively on Bilal Hussein. And every time I do my blood boils. But let&#039;s be clear, he&#039;s the enemy. It&#039;s to be expected from him. My blood boils because of the deceptive actions of our guile media. And by contemporaneously blaming and excusing them [the media] by implicitly insinuating that foreign stringers are the best they can do, gives my righteous resolve a moment of reprieve towards them. It&#039;s sort of a &quot;who can blame them?&quot; moment. 

I&#039;m informed on the subject. Those who are coming in late to this story will be more likely to excuse such cunning buck passing. Besides, they [the media] don&#039;t understand the culture, or so they&#039;d presume.[sarc]   

The ultimate blame for such artifice lies solely with Western media outlets. No question. But when all is written those same Western media outlets are given an out for their deceitful cleverness. 

It isn&#039;t that I don&#039;t agree with you wholeheartedly. It&#039;s that I want the full gauntlet to come down on these weasels. And by letting them have the &quot;trump card&quot; that &quot;it&#039;s the stringers fault&quot; makes them less likely to have the introspection that&#039;s needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, You thought I haven&#8217;t been up to par with regard to your coverage of this story. You wrote:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;I don’t think you’ve been folowing my coverage closely.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>However, I have been following this story closely. I&#8217;ve read your coverage along with many other blogs. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not the only person reporting on this story who&#8217;ve pointed out the dubiousness of using foreign stringers. Too be dubious doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean there is malevolence involved. In my opinion, there is malevolence involved.  </p>
<p>Let me explain it like this. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read extensively on Bilal Hussein. And every time I do my blood boils. But let&#8217;s be clear, he&#8217;s the enemy. It&#8217;s to be expected from him. My blood boils because of the deceptive actions of our guile media. And by contemporaneously blaming and excusing them [the media] by implicitly insinuating that foreign stringers are the best they can do, gives my righteous resolve a moment of reprieve towards them. It&#8217;s sort of a &#8220;who can blame them?&#8221; moment. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m informed on the subject. Those who are coming in late to this story will be more likely to excuse such cunning buck passing. Besides, they [the media] don&#8217;t understand the culture, or so they&#8217;d presume.[sarc]   </p>
<p>The ultimate blame for such artifice lies solely with Western media outlets. No question. But when all is written those same Western media outlets are given an out for their deceitful cleverness. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t that I don&#8217;t agree with you wholeheartedly. It&#8217;s that I want the full gauntlet to come down on these weasels. And by letting them have the &#8220;trump card&#8221; that &#8220;it&#8217;s the stringers fault&#8221; makes them less likely to have the introspection that&#8217;s needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/18/bilal-hussein-update-military-details-collaboration-msm-still-in-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-198780</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line; no one knows who these guys are.

I talked to Michael Totten at Blogworld Expo and asked him about this. He just shook his head and said that the Iraqi “journalists” would often be relaying 3rd hand information - the Iraqi reporter talked to someone who spoke with an eyewitness to an attack. He also said there’s no way you can vet these people.

How true. But hiring former Saddam era reporters? THey all did it. And when you consider how much the big outfits depended on these guys, you know that the normal fact checking and editorial control went out the window in the constant need to hit deadlines with an interesting story.

I’d like to say that the media will examine their coverage of the war after a decent interval but they don’t want to know how badly they screwed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line; no one knows who these guys are.</p>
<p>I talked to Michael Totten at Blogworld Expo and asked him about this. He just shook his head and said that the Iraqi “journalists” would often be relaying 3rd hand information &#8211; the Iraqi reporter talked to someone who spoke with an eyewitness to an attack. He also said there’s no way you can vet these people.</p>
<p>How true. But hiring former Saddam era reporters? THey all did it. And when you consider how much the big outfits depended on these guys, you know that the normal fact checking and editorial control went out the window in the constant need to hit deadlines with an interesting story.</p>
<p>I’d like to say that the media will examine their coverage of the war after a decent interval but they don’t want to know how badly they screwed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey brooklyn red

I sure hope it does set a precendent..this is war.

You want to put our troops in danger be prepared to pay the piper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey brooklyn red</p>
<p>I sure hope it does set a precendent..this is war.</p>
<p>You want to put our troops in danger be prepared to pay the piper.</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn red</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/18/bilal-hussein-update-military-details-collaboration-msm-still-in-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-198746</link>
		<dc:creator>brooklyn red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang him? Hmmmmm, could set a precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang him? Hmmmmm, could set a precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/18/bilal-hussein-update-military-details-collaboration-msm-still-in-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-198745</link>
		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your December 9th post this section caught my eye.  It seems this Bilal Hussein character had attracted our troops attention in 2004.  Our guys began to keep an eye on him...

&lt;blockquote&gt;This team was comprised of US Public Affairs and Intelligence personnel &lt;strong&gt;as well as a Special Ops unit to exploit any actionable intelligence gathered. &lt;/strong&gt;It was an extraordinary measure and only the fact that Hussein and several others were acting as de facto terror press agents prompted it.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Maybe we should begin to refer to that disgraced news agency as AQ Press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your December 9th post this section caught my eye.  It seems this Bilal Hussein character had attracted our troops attention in 2004.  Our guys began to keep an eye on him&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>This team was comprised of US Public Affairs and Intelligence personnel <strong>as well as a Special Ops unit to exploit any actionable intelligence gathered. </strong>It was an extraordinary measure and only the fact that Hussein and several others were acting as de facto terror press agents prompted it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe we should begin to refer to that disgraced news agency as AQ Press.</p>
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		<title>By: Twas the Tuesday before Tuesday before Tuesday before Iowa &#171; Obi&#8217;s Sister</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/18/bilal-hussein-update-military-details-collaboration-msm-still-in-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-198717</link>
		<dc:creator>Twas the Tuesday before Tuesday before Tuesday before Iowa &#171; Obi&#8217;s Sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that oozes from either of the Clinton orifices as the gospel truth while either ignoring or misrepresenting anything [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that oozes from either of the Clinton orifices as the gospel truth while either ignoring or misrepresenting anything [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/18/bilal-hussein-update-military-details-collaboration-msm-still-in-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-198684</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang him high!! I believe Iraqi&#039;s will be the jury and I believe they have been known to hang traitors....could ya please?

in other news from Iraq, Blackwater killed the NY Times stringers dog.
That&#039;s what happens when your dog attacks a superior bomb-sniffing dog.

It&#039;s not nice but it was necessary.  It will also be necessary to make Bilal Hussein pay for attacks on the fine men and women of the United States Military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang him high!! I believe Iraqi&#8217;s will be the jury and I believe they have been known to hang traitors&#8230;.could ya please?</p>
<p>in other news from Iraq, Blackwater killed the NY Times stringers dog.<br />
That&#8217;s what happens when your dog attacks a superior bomb-sniffing dog.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not nice but it was necessary.  It will also be necessary to make Bilal Hussein pay for attacks on the fine men and women of the United States Military.</p>
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		<title>By: puhiawa</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/18/bilal-hussein-update-military-details-collaboration-msm-still-in-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-198669</link>
		<dc:creator>puhiawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The denial is because they knew full well what was going on. Just like Reuters fauxtography. Drag this guy&#039;s supervisors in for questioning. Pull every email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The denial is because they knew full well what was going on. Just like Reuters fauxtography. Drag this guy&#8217;s supervisors in for questioning. Pull every email.</p>
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		<title>By: trinitytim</title>
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		<dc:creator>trinitytim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP -- &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Always Prepared&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; 

to capture the IED detonated on their command and to aid in the escape of a wanted sniper. They have American blood on their hands and as far as I&#039;m concerned, any soldier injured in any attack related to this clown ought to sue the AP for all their worth.

The AP -- &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Anti Patriots&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP &#8212; <em><strong>Always Prepared</strong></em> </p>
<p>to capture the IED detonated on their command and to aid in the escape of a wanted sniper. They have American blood on their hands and as far as I&#8217;m concerned, any soldier injured in any attack related to this clown ought to sue the AP for all their worth.</p>
<p>The AP &#8212; <em><strong>Anti Patriots</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Boomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the dinosaur media is they no longer have anyone with the guts to go out with the troops and take the same risks they take.  From what I have heard from folks that have served in Iraq most stayed in the comfort and relative safety of the “Green Zone” instead of risking their butts on the firing line.  Now they turn to enemy collaborators and enemy propagandist to get their news stories such as the Associated “with terrorists” Press.  They claim to be neutral, but always seem to come down on the side of the enemy when crafting their news stories.  

Just enough to know this stringer was standing by someone setting off an IED to ensure he got the picture is enough to call him an “unlawful enemy combatant” in my book.  I really believe the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) needs to be applied to treat the enemy the way they treat the Americans that have been taken prisoner.  Oh wait they have  tortured, murdered, and mutilated American prisoners of war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the dinosaur media is they no longer have anyone with the guts to go out with the troops and take the same risks they take.  From what I have heard from folks that have served in Iraq most stayed in the comfort and relative safety of the “Green Zone” instead of risking their butts on the firing line.  Now they turn to enemy collaborators and enemy propagandist to get their news stories such as the Associated “with terrorists” Press.  They claim to be neutral, but always seem to come down on the side of the enemy when crafting their news stories.  </p>
<p>Just enough to know this stringer was standing by someone setting off an IED to ensure he got the picture is enough to call him an “unlawful enemy combatant” in my book.  I really believe the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) needs to be applied to treat the enemy the way they treat the Americans that have been taken prisoner.  Oh wait they have  tortured, murdered, and mutilated American prisoners of war.</p>
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