RetFireman, you have no idea what you’re talking about and your last comment is, frankly, embarassing.

No one is telling CAIR what to say and what not to say.

Savage is. Suing someone means “stop saying this.” Duh.

CAIR is attempting to force Savage out of a job, out of his career and his source of income for expressing something he said, for using his FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Yes. Which is completely fine.

Michelle Malkin urged a boycott of Miller for supporting an S+M rally and an immigrant rally. Miler has a right to support those things. They, and Savage, don’t have a right to be protected from blowback.

Therefore, they are being a bully, they are forcing their will upon a private citizen.

They aren’t forcing anything. They are pushing their agenda. Being a private citizen does not protect you from other people actively disagreeing with your views.

If some dude profits from espousing white supremacist beliefs, would you have a problem with the NAACP urging other to boycott him? If someone publicly demands the destruction of Israel, should Jewish groups not urge a boycott of anyone who supports that person?

Therefore, if the ACLU were to be true to their convictions and their creed, they would be coming to his aid.

Wrong. Quite the opposite.

however, because of what he has said about them in the past, they will not be offering him their sevices.

Yeah. That sure stopped them from publicly defending the great ACLU-defender Rush Limbaugh.

Then you go on to complain about CAIR. Which is fine. I don’t like them either. Their ties to Hamas are unacceptable.

But, your last line!

You are not exempt from having your feelings hurt. PERIOD!

I agree. No one is suing Savage to get him off the air. Savage is suing them because his feelings are gettng hurt. Ok, technically because of copyright issues. But what CAIR is doing is so obviously legal that this case won’t go anywhere. Savage is the problem.

RetFireman, honestly, your last post was fantasticly stupid. I hate to personally offend you (I don’t want to lose my comment privs), but, seriously! Look at what you wrote! It’s crazy and indefensible and you must know that it’s indefensible. You don’t have facts on your side and you don’t have reason. You just have a hatred of CAIR.

I get why some people are conservatives. I love getting to have respectful conversations with EnglishQueen for example. But I can’t debate with someone who just has no clue.

CAIR likes to bully people. CAIR likes to lable everyone who does not drop to their knees facing East 5 times a day as Islamophobic and sue them accordingly. It is their goal to make this an Islamic country, and to fund Jihadist organizations and governments along the way and remove anyone that stands in their way in this country, utilizing our own laws against us. Who is it that is there to lend them a helping hand every step of the way? The ACLU and fellow Liberals. Congrats with that.

I personally do not much care for Dr. Savage. I think he is shrill and screams alot and while I was trying to listen to a debate awhile back he wouldn’t shut up and he was the only one who had it on and it pissed me off. However, he has every right to be on, and if he wants to call them every racist name in the book, then by God, he has that right. There still are no thought police in this country, and you are still capable of turning the dial or turning it off. You are not exempt from having your feelings hurt. PERIOD!

#52 Aloha Guy
Am checking to see why Lambda Chi Alpha calls their publication “Cross and Crescent”

Interesting, no?

Check the frats ceremonial manual and you’ll see it is based on Christian beliefs. In the section discussing mourning and funerals, they post suggested prayers including kadish (jewish).

There is another translation for the motto “per crusem cresens” here:

“The Latin motto above our coat of arms is Per Crucem Crescens [Pare Krew'-kem Kress'-kanes],
“Growth through the Cross.” Let us pray. “

#24 Wade –
From NYT: “At least two of his major sponsors — Citrix, which sells remote access to computers, and Trusted ID, which provides protection against identity theft — have pulled their spots.”

More specifically, Trusted ID clarified their position here:

(A spokeswoman for Citrix would not discuss the reasons for the company’s decision; the chief executive of Trusted ID, Scott Mitic, said it had abandoned Savage’s program because his audience wasn’t buying the company’s product.)

Radio talk show host Michael Savage is filing a lawsuit against unindicted co-conspirator CAIR, something’s that they’ve been asking for for a long time now…

Oh, and don’t count of the ACLU to come to Savage’s aid.

Why would they? Free speech advocates should be siding with CAIR. No one has limited Savage’s ability to speak his mind. If Michelle Malkin says something crazy and people demand a boycott, it isn’t threatening her First Amendment rights. It’s just the consequences of saying something that others vehemently oppose.

If this case were Al Franken suing Focus on the Family and the basic facts were the same, you would see it my way and demand the ACLU defend Focus on the Family and I would agree with you whole-heartedly.

You’re being blinded by the fact that, to put it bluntly, CAIR sucks. But CAIR’s First Amendment rights are no different from any other non-profit with an agenda to push.

The price of exposing CAIR is too high here. This lawsuit is a disaster in the making.

Fair enough. The actual recordings of Savage’s broadcast will be heard in either contrast or comparison to how CAIR broadcast them, and the jury’s chips can fall where they may.

The fact that C.A.I.R has dropped lawsuits just before discovery phase before, and the way that C.A.I.R conducted the ‘Flying Imam’ fiasco, I’m not very impressed with their handling of legal matters. I guess we’ll just have to see how far Savage will push back.

You know…because they are a peaceful religion..THE peaceful religion.