Anyone truly rational about it would have to make certain conclusions about the existence of matter (according to scientific law, it does not exist by itself, it cannot (in our material realm) be created or destroyed, and that eventually all matter degenerates in form rather than improves), and with regard to our own ethical and moral laws pertaining to human behavior within a civil society. If you exclude God from either one or both, and you try to force others to reject him also, then you are behaving irrationally, and illogically.

Hitch is in your face telling you God is bad. Libs might rant and rail about the religious right, they might denounce the Pope for opposing birth control, they might want the school to be secular (no X-max pageant), but they do not denounce belief in God itself.

LGM,

Everytime you open your mouth in here, you proclaim the fact that you will lie ad infinitum to defend your liberal cohorts. I live in a liberal college town, and I see and hear PERSONALLY the pachouli stinking so-called “enlightened” liberals telling me and my fellow Christians every day that God does NOT exist and that we are idiots for believing otherwise. While I know not nearly all liberals are atheists, your contention that none of them are telling us God does not exist is completely laughable. You aren’t on the receiving end of it, so you have no idea what you are talking about.

And BTW, Xopher Hitchens is about as conservative as you are. Conservatism at it’s core starts with a belief that you serve something higher than yourself. A belief Liberals will never understand. Your idiotic statement makes that clear.

Merry Christmas, Michelle.

Hitch is in your face telling you God is bad. Libs might rant and rail about the religious right, they might denounce the Pope for opposing birth control, they might want the school to be secular (no X-max pageant), but they do not denounce belief in God itself.

I take it back.You spend WAAAAAYYYY too much time under your bridge. I cannot believe that you actually made that statement. you cannot for one minute believe that. you can’t You must be sayiong that just to provoke me or others into an arument. You honestly cannot believe that Liberals and others on the Left do not attack, belittle and berate Christians and others just because they believe in Jesus and God. Are you really that stupid? Or are you really just that sheltered and don’t read much? I have always understood you to be a person that has never been one to go out and find out things for yourself and to only parrot what you hear, so I would not be surprised one ipta to find that you are the latter.

As I told you to do, all you need do is to go to HuffPo, DU and Kos, read their posts…pick a freakin day…ANY day…ANY POST….ANY FREAKIN SUBJECT….and you will see them going off on the attack against the Christians and how stupid and lame they are for believing in God and Jesus and how stupid they are for being Jesus freaks etc., stc.

The simple fact that you can even make that claim, not once, but twoce, shows an amazing amount of ignorance towards what your own party and it’s members do to Christians ON A DAILY BASIS IN MASS NUMBERS. This is not some fringe group we are talking here. This is seen on many posters in rallys and protest marches. this is seen every time Bush speaks and they are protesting against him. this is seen everywhere. Christians are mocked constantly in the media, in cartoon strips in the daily newspapers, on television, on prime time TV shows…EVERYWHERE…for believing in “A make believe deity” etc.

Yes, you support people and defend them for doing a great many evil and wrong things. What is worse, is wither you are just plain ignorant of it or you are playing dumb to try to get =out of guilt by association or to hide your guilt. Either way, you stink of this guilt. You lay with the skinks, you wake up with the stink. And buddy, you can be smelled from 10 miles away.

Freedom of my wallet.

Xofer can write whatever he wants.

And I can choose to ignore him. Giving him neither thought, money or even advertising hits.

I feel the same way about atheists as I do Buddists, Jews and Catholics. It’s their choice. As long as they aren’t hurting anyone, then it’s none of my business.

Muslims on the other hand….

Sadly, I think he’s leaning towards the ladder but I pray he ends up in the former.

Atheists – considered so “progressive” – are really just rehashing the same tired, fruitless arguments raised by *all* anti-Christian groups over the course of the past two millenia. They’ve literally offered NOTHING new in the way of rhetoric or insight.

So we must fight against them.

lgm: If you denounce those who believe in God, you are denouncing God. Period. And I’ve met far more liberals who are secular humanists and atheists than conservatives. Hitchens is the exception, not the rule.

“A national holiday, in this country, cannot have an exclusively religious meaning. The secular meaning of the Christmas holiday is wider than the tenets of any particular religion: it is good will toward men — a frame of mind which is not the exclusive property (though it is supposed to be part, but is a largely unobserved part) of the Christian religion.

The best aspect of Christmas is the aspect usually decried by the mystics: the fact that Christmas has been commercialized. The gift-buying … stimulates an enormous outpouring of ingenuity in the creation of products devoted to a single purpose: to give men pleasure. And the street decorations put up by department stores and other institutions—the Christmas trees, the winking lights, the glittering colors—provide the city with a spectacular display, which only ‘commercial greed’ could afford to give us. One would have to be terribly depressed to resist the wonderful gaiety of that spectacle.”