Benazir Bhutto assassinated

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 27, 2007 08:43 AM

Update Dec. 28, 10:30am. Bhutto buried.

Update 3:20pm. Photos of Bhutto’s coffin leaving a Rawalpindi hospital.

Update 2:30pm. Tough talk and a reality check from Andy McCarthy…

A recent CNN poll showed that 46 percent of Pakistanis approve of Osama bin Laden. Aspirants to the American presidency should hope to score so highly in the United States. In Pakistan, though, the al-Qaeda emir easily beat out that country’s current president, Pervez Musharraf, who polled at 38 percent.

President George Bush, the face of a campaign to bring democracy — or, at least, some form of sharia-lite that might pass for democracy — to the Islamic world, registered nine percent. Nine!

If you want to know what to make of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto’s murder today in Pakistan, ponder that.

There is the Pakistan of our fantasy. The burgeoning democracy in whose vanguard are judges and lawyers and human rights activists using the “rule of law” as a cudgel to bring down a military junta. In the fantasy, Bhutto, an attractive, American-educated socialist whose prominent family made common cause with Soviets and whose tenures were rife with corruption, was somehow the second coming of James Madison.

Then there is the real Pakistan: an enemy of the United States and the West.

Update: Video – President Bush condemns the murder.

Rather than blather about bringing the killers to “justice,” Wretchard at the Belmont Club asks what died with Bhutto:

Political murder kills not only the candidates, but the process to which they belong. Pakistani politics might not miss Benazir Bhutto as an individual, but it will surely want for the elections in general.

Elections have rarely been able in and of themselves to bring about stable democratic rule. Normally things are the other way round. It is the existence of the elements of democracy that have brought elections into existence. Whether those elements now exist in Pakistan is the question…The next few days will show whether the Pakistani Army — for it will surely not be the Taliban — can rededicate itself to electoral democracy. Pakistan needs its George Washington. Unfortunately it only has its Pervez Musharraf.

Update 10:48am: Naturally, the tinfoil hatters on the Left are out in full force.

Update 10:15am: The US presidential candidates are all angling to look presidential in the aftermath of the assassination. Mitt Romney gave a brief statement televised on Fox, condemning “global, violent, radical jihadism.” Huckabee and McCain have issued statements. So has Giuliani: “The assassination of Benazir Bhutto is a tragic event for Pakistan and for democracy in Pakistan,” he said in a statement. “Her murderers must be brought to justice and Pakistan must continue the path back to democracy and the rule of law. Her death is a reminder that terrorism anywhere — whether in New York, London, Tel-Aviv, or Rawalpindi — is an enemy of freedom. We must redouble our efforts to win the terrorists’ war on us.”

President Bush is scheduled to make a statement sometime in the hour.

Update: DAWN has constant updates. Police have fired tear gas on protesters in Peshawar.

Update: One report says al Qaeda is claiming credit

A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

It is believed that the decision to kill Bhutto, who is the leader of the opposition Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), was made by al-Qaeda No. 2, the Egyptian doctor, Ayman al-Zawahiri in October.

Death squads were allegedly constituted for the mission and ultimately one cell comprising a defunct Lashkar-i-Jhangvi’s Punjabi volunteer succeeded in killing Bhutto.

Update: Allah points to graphic photos and video of the assassination scene, including this one taken just seconds before she was shot as she stands in an open vehicle campaigning. More here.

And here’s a rundown from October of some of Bhutto’s enemies:

• Taliban fighters and other Islamic extremists who resent a woman who wants to keep religion out of government and who supports the U.S. war on terror. Bhutto inflamed the militants recently when she said she might allow U.S. forces onto Pakistani soil to hunt Taliban and al-Qaeda forces hiding along the rugged Afghan-Pakistani border. The Taliban threatened to greet her with suicide bombers — but denied responsibility for the bloodshed in Karachi.

• Militant supporters of her estranged brother Murtaza, who was gunned down by police in 1996 during Benazir’s second term as prime minister. Murtaza had emerged as a key critic of her regime and head of an armed left-wing Peoples Party splinter group. “He had die-hard supporters who blame her for his death,” Sehgal says.

• Members of the military establishment who undermined her two governments and who three decades ago overthrew and executed her father, the charismatic Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

More on Bhutto’s enemies.

***
They tried and failed when she returned to Pakistan in October. They tried and failed with a baby suicide bomber. Yesterday, they stopped a 15-year-old with a bomb packed full of nails trying to kill her. Today, they succeeded. Dammit, dammit, dammit:

Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Thursday in a suicide bombing that also killed at least 20 others at a campaign rally, a party aide and a military official said.

“At 6:16 p.m. she expired,” said Wasif Ali Khan, a member of Bhutto’s party who was at Rawalpindi General Hospital where she was taken after the attack.

A senior military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment, confirmed that Bhutto had died.

Her supporters at the hospital began chanting “Dog, Musharraf, dog,” referring to Pakistan’s president Pervez Musharraf. Some of them smashed the glass door at the main entrance of the emergency unit, others burst into tears.

Some reports say Bhutto appeared to have been shot–suffering bullet wounds to the neck or head.

According to a Fox News correspondent in Pakistan, the shots were fired immediately before the blast.

Residents of Bhutto’s hometown have gone on a “rampage.”

Now: WWMD?

What will Musharraf do?

***

Previous:

Nov. 9 – Reports: Benazir Bhutto placed under house arrest

Nov. 4 – The train wreck in Pakistan

Oct. 18 - Bloody (un)welcome: Assassination attempt on Bhutto

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  1. #203736
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:48 am, katieanne said:

    It is a horrifying reality that many people in this world believe murder is the way to deal with a difference of opinion.

  2. #203737
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:49 am, Timothy S. Carlson said:

    This is a sad day for Pakistan.

  3. #203740
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:51 am, EHeavenlyGads said:

    This is an even sadder for Democracy. Western civilization just lost a good friend and ally.

  4. #203743
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:53 am, Go_Fish said:

    It will take a long time for Pakistan to find another leader as selfless as Mrs Bhutto. We can only hope some good comes from this, perhaps in the way Iraqis turned on Al Queda after years of butchery. Rest in peace.

  5. #203744
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:56 am, Kendrick said:

    They just kept on coming after her. It was a matter of time. A truly courageous person was lost today. The terrorists finally got the idea to go to the one place we can’t invade and can’t rely on the government to keep control of. They got what they wanted and now we have who knows what kind of bloody aftermath to expect.

  6. #203746
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:57 am, swj719AWG said:

    Took longer than I exspected, frankly. I’d thought she’d die while under house arrest…

    Go with God, Benazir Shutto…

  7. #203747
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:57 am, swj719AWG said:

    Bhutto…

    Coffee, STAT!

  8. #203749
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:58 am, Jimbob said:

    These are the same people that some in this country feel that we can talk things out with. This is their idea of political discussion. Pakistan has lost a great citizen.

  9. #203750
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:59 am, Prime Director said:

    This is a terrible tragedy.

    God shed his grace on the peace-loving people of Pakistan. May he give them strength and protect them from their enemies.

  10. #203751
    On December 27th, 2007 at 8:59 am, WORK949 said:

    So, who’s going to claim responsibility? And if it’s the Talibanistas, how much longer does Musharraf have before they get him?

    Sorry for Mr. Bhutto and family, but I’m not surprised at this.

  11. #203753
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:00 am, steveegg said:

    Things are about to get very exciting, and not in a good way. We still don’t know which side of the fence Musharraf will come down on (that is, if he’s still on that fence).

  12. #203755
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:01 am, zorro said:

    A very sad day for democracy.

    May God the Father Almighty rest her Soul and comfort her family.

    Pray for Pakistan. The next few weeks will be a living hell there.

  13. #203759
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:09 am, steveegg said:

    As for what Musharraf will do, it depends on whether he and his boys had a hand in this.

    If they didn’t, Waziristan is going to be squeezed like an oversized pimple.

    If they did, I don’t even want to think of the consequences.

  14. #203760
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:09 am, katieanne said:

    FOX just said she was killed with an AK-47 before the bomber blew himself up. How does someone carry around an AK-47 without being noticed and stopped? It’s insane.

    This really makes me feel sick.

  15. #203761
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:10 am, jsr said:

    So the Christian right is the supposed moral equivalent of these assassins? We’ll probably see any condemnation of this on the left accompanied by a denunciation of all religious extremism. (i.e. people that take their faith seriously)

  16. #203763
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:11 am, cpodug said:

    katieanne said:
    It is a horrifying reality that many people in this world believe murder is the way to deal with a difference of opinion.

    And not all of them are in foreign countries. Unfortunately, we are about to find out the truth behind the saying, “things are never so bad that they can’t get a little worse.”

  17. #203764
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:12 am, rworks said:

    “It will take a long time for Pakistan to find another leader as selfless as Mrs Bhutto.”

    Go Fish, if by “selfless” you mean “corrupt, venal and hypocritical” then you’re right.

    Bhutto, for all her rhetoric, was a member of Pakistan’s high society, wealthy beyond the dreams of the people she supposedly cared about. Ghandi she was not.

    You can ask the people in my office, I basically gave Bhutto till January before either Musharaf or the Jihadists got to her. It seems that I was all too correct in my analysis. The 2nd half of my analysis now awaits: It will get worse now in Pakistan. Bhutto’s replacement in the Pakistan People’s Party is not nearly as capable as she was. Musharraf will be forced (again) to declare a state of emergency. Elections scheduled for January will be postponed or cancelled, further accelarating unrest. Be very surprised if Musharraf lasts till June 08. Military takeover very possible, and insurrection in the Northwest Territories will get worse.

    As for who killed her, I would not be too fast to blame the Jihadists or Al Queda. There were people in the government and military (if not Musharraf himself) who wanted her gone. Best to wait a bit before blaming specific targets.

    And before anyone reacts with the “how callous can you be, etc.”, I do feel bad that she’s dead. But the analysis of the situation is what it is. Its not right that the only thing her killers could do was blow her up. They couldn’t talk to her, face her with valid arguments, and that is why eventually the Jihadists will fail. They have no ideas that the common citizen (Muslim or not) can support as being “good” for their children. They can kill, but they cannot create. Remember that and we will win in the end.

    rworks
    24 yrs USAF Intel (ret)

  18. #203765
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:12 am, Surak said:

    I hope that this finally gives the government the spine needed to go into the Northwest Frontier Provinces and Waziristan and flatten those evil places to the ground – the lawless home of the madrasas and jihadism.

  19. #203766
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:12 am, ACHefty said:

    Look for Pakistan to begin its implosion. This has happened before. Assassinate the opposition only to watch it grow, then win.

    Think Philippines. Think Marcos vs. Aquino.

    Let’s hope Pakistan — and the overall region — recovers quickly and properly.

  20. #203767
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:14 am, radio relay said:

    Another “moderate muslim” pays the price for trying make a difference.

    I’m truly surprised she made it this long.

    May her soul go with God, and she rest in true peace.

  21. #203768
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:14 am, Blind_Mule said:

    This is a direct result of Musharraf’s inablity or refusal to eliminate radical Islam in Pakistan, He has let the situation spin out of control and this is the result. I like Musharraf but much like many political figure’s he has been thinking of his own power and prosperity. Bhutto would have been the balance to Musharraf’s government and possibly would have defeated him. A sad day for democracy in Pakistan.

  22. #203770
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:16 am, zorro said:

    As with all tragedies, this may be an opening for positive action. Whether Mushy is behind this or just a bystander, this assassination could give him justification to wage all out war on the lawless tribal areas, Taliban strongholds and radical islamist. Civil war may come to Pakistan. The only way out favorable to the West would be to neutralize those who wish to impose sharia law.

  23. #203771
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:17 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    I am grief stricken. What an honorable person. Some of our politicians could learn a thing or two thousand from her. RIP

  24. #203772
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:18 am, trinitytim said:

    Pervez may not have pulled the trigger but he sure didn’t do much to prevent it either. I believe that this will come back to AQ.

    Now, the problem becomes how do we prevent AQ and the Taliban from taking over and acquiring the nuclear arsenal. I’m sorry that Ms. Bhutto did not survive and I respect her bravery, but this was inevitable.

    Be afraid, be very afraid. Strong action is needed to keep us safe now, more than ever. God bless America.

  25. #203774
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:19 am, sfcmac said:

    This is terrible. She worked hard to reform a country full of misogynist, Islamofascist miscreants. Pakistan has formented terrorist scumbags and extremists for years. She knew her life was in constant danger, but returned to her home and courageously stood up to subhuman filth. For her efforts to bring democracy to Pakistan, she was rewarded with murder.

    To be sure, the Musharraf regime will blame the United States for brokering an agreement to let her back into Pakistan, and the moonbats on the Left will blame President Bush because everything is his fault, from their lousy childhoods to their miserable worthless adult lives.

    Expect a lot of rioting and more bombs. It won’t stop until all the muslim extremist pigs are dead, which means it won’t be any time soon.

  26. #203777
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:26 am, sfcmac said:

    Musharraf is probably glad that someone finally got to her. She was the biggest threat to the oppressive, corrupt regime. No one has yet claimed responsibility for this atrocity, but Musharraf, the Taliban, and Al Qaeda head up the list.

  27. #203781
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:32 am, swj719AWG said:

    Now: WWMF?

    What will Musharraf do?

    You mean WWMD, right?

  28. #203783
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:35 am, The Revoultion said:

    We should find out what the foreign policy expert Rsie Odonnell thinks should be done here. No doubt the first thing is to blame America for this.

  29. #203784
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:37 am, grumpy_old_soldier said:

    A voice in the wilderness…a very brave woman, of outstanding physical and moral courage, she will be missed.

  30. #203785
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:38 am, James Felix said:

    Go Fish, if by “selfless” you mean “corrupt, venal and hypocritical” then you’re right.

    Bhutto, for all her rhetoric, was a member of Pakistan’s high society, wealthy beyond the dreams of the people she supposedly cared about.

    And instead of living a soft life enjoying that wealth she persisted in a public life that she knew could get her killed. Sounds pretty selfless to me. In fact I feel pretty safe predicting that it was a lot more selfless and courageous than the life you’ve lived.

    Memo to the American Left: this is what “stifling of dissent” really looks like.

    Score one for the bad guys.

  31. #203788
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:42 am, Ronbo said:

    The bad news this morning is the assassination of a woman of courage in Pakistan, The Freedom Fighter Benazir Bhutto, whose “great crime” was a burning desire to bring liberty and justice to her country. As I type these lines I’m watching Fox News coverage in Pakistan and the mobs are running wild looking for revenge. I am reminded of that scene in Shakespeare’s JULIUS CAESAR when the Roman mob runs amok against Caesar’s assassins who flee Rome.

    The next scene may be civil war in Pakistan.

  32. #203790
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:43 am, tre said:

    Into your hands do we commit her spirit, oh God.

  33. #203791
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:45 am, steveegg said:

    AKI is reporting Al Qaeda is taking credit.

  34. #203793
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:48 am, franksalterego said:

    Democracy – Islam

    Oil – Water

    It’s futile

    After 1300 years, you’d think we’dve figured that out.

    [sigh]

  35. #203795
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:50 am, cf said:

    I just read the NYT coverage of the assassination, and they managed to get a number of digs in — moments after Benazir Bhutto’s death. I wonder what is wrong with those people. What can they be thinking?

  36. #203800
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:53 am, buckshot said:

    Say what you may but Bhutto is a true Martyr and I hope that this assassination and the recent Mosque bombings will cause the ordinary people to turn on the killers as the people of Iraq are doing

  37. #203801
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:53 am, swj719AWG said:

    AKI is reporting Al Qaeda is taking credit.

    Just the other day, one of FOX New’s military folks (The really old guy, I’m very sorry I can’t recall his name) said that we lacked the will to ignore Pakistan’s refusal to allow our forces to follow AQ across the boarder.

    I think now Musharraf might have a hard time telling us we can’t cross. He might have too much pressure to allow us freer movement.

    If that’s the case, AQ has once again screwed a pooch that did NOT need screwing…

  38. #203806
    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:59 am, Laree said:

    I have said it before, everything starts in Pakistan for example, the London, Bombers. If this is Alqaeda they start with an assasination, then there is are huge multiple attacks on a Western interest.

    If asked, Musharraf, refers to some of the Taliban as Pashtuns, he doesn’t even use the same terminology as everyone else concerned about their resurgence. I feel Musharraf is more interested in maintaining power, then fighting terrorist in fact, I think he uses the War on Terror as leverage with the West.

  39. #203809
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:01 am, Rusty said:

    Democracy – Islam

    Oil – Water

    It’s futile

    After 1300 years, you’d think we’dve figured that out

    It took Christians that long too. America was really the first modern democracy with a majority Christian population and we’re still relatively young.

    Don’t give up hope. That’s all too easy in the face of this terrible news.

    I admit I felt this was inevitable but it’s startling all the same.

  40. #203815
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:04 am, Mister P said:

    God bless her as her soul can now move on. She did what she felt is right, now the world has to deal with her killers.

  41. #203818
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:06 am, commonsensemom said:

    What a tragedy. My heart fell when I read the news. Definitely tough times ahead for Pakistan. Let this be a warning to the Lefties here at home about the reality of the enemy they seem to overlook and underestimate on an almost daily basis.

    WWMD, indeed…

  42. #203821
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:08 am, swj719AWG said:

    RUsty’s got a point.

    CHristians had our uber-violent period too folks. Crusades, the Inquisition…

    Islam is about as old as christianity was at those periods…

    This is just worse because we now have bombs and guns. It’s a growing spurt. In a couple generations I would expect it to all settle down.

    Not that we shouldn’t fight until then, mind you. Letting them play without fighting back would be silly…

  43. #203828
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:10 am, steveegg said:

    On December 27th, 2007 at 9:53 am, swj719AWG said:

    Would be real interesting if things turn out that way. Al Qaeda does have a history of pushing the envelope.

  44. #203830
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:13 am, ddhinnyc said:

    And I quote:

    “Fundamentalist Christianity is just as bad as fundamental Islam.”

    Rosie O’Donnell

  45. #203832
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:13 am, swj719AWG said:

    Well, not any more it isn’t…

    But back in the day, it was pretty damn nasty…

  46. #203835
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:16 am, gandolphxx said:

    Well once again ‘the bumper sticker’ became a reality – democraps hustling to get a piece of this – CNN reciting a litany of involvements by PIAPS, Obama and Richardson – guess Edwards gets thrown under the bus here.

    The existence of the safe zone in northeast pakistan is a cancer and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

  47. #203836
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:16 am, katieanne said:

    O’Reilly had on Jeanne Wolf last week and he was discussing the war on terror. Wolf said she and much of Hollywood thought the war should be fought with words not as it is now. Words. How utterly insane to think that the brutality such as we have seen today can be fought with only words.

    If this is what Dems and the looney left think will beat these Islamic butchers, God help us all.

  48. #203839
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:19 am, katieanne said:

    The violence of Christianity of long ago changed because Christians would not accept the brutality and rose up against it. It was because of them that change came. Until the moderates of Islam, if there are any, do likewise and rise up against the hideous brutality of Islam today, the bloody violence will continue. Right now, the silence from the so-called sane Muslims is deafening.

  49. #203843
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:25 am, swj719AWG said:

    The US presidential candidates are all angling to look presidential in the aftermath of the assassination.

    I wanna hear Fred Thompson’s take on this…

  50. #203844
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:25 am, Rusty said:

    It also helps to another continent to run off to. Leading by example is a lot easier when your enemies are an ocean away.

    Right now, the silence from the so-called sane Muslims is deafening.

    Well, her supporters are rioting. That doesn’t seem very silent to me.

  51. #203849
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:30 am, katieanne said:

    You totally missed my point or are deliberatly misreprsenting what I said.

    Rioting is not a sane counter to the current violence and murder coming in the name of Islam. That you can’t see the difference is no surprise to me.

  52. #203851
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:31 am, Mister P said:

    I can here John Mc Cain now. “Please Pakistan, dont waterboard the terrorists.”

  53. #203852
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:31 am, txvet2 said:

    CHristians had our uber-violent period too folks. Crusades, the Inquisition…

    It’s not as if this is just a phase. Islam is the violent religion of a violent people, and has been since inception. They are not going to be “modernized” out of their violence – modern Western culture is the current specific reason for it. And you should know that the Crusades came about as a result of the invasion of the Holy Land by Arabs, not the other way around.

  54. #203853
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:34 am, Rational Thought said:

    The US presidential candidates are all angling to look presidential in the aftermath of the assassination.

    And Queen Hillary, as we speak, is having her staff write a statement that will make her the “American Benazir” — a brave woman trying to stare down misogyny for the noble goal of…political power. Wait for the comparisons…. It will be most nauseating. (I wonder, will they also compare the corruption in the two families, Bhutto and Clinton?)

  55. #203855
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:36 am, Laree said:

    All,

    http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2007/12/pakisham.html

    From someone who has study Pakistan.

  56. #203856
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:36 am, Laree said:

    sorry studied.

  57. #203857
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:39 am, James Felix said:

    CHristians had our uber-violent period too folks. Crusades, the Inquisition…

    Comparing Christianity’s violence and Islam’s, implying that religions (like teenagers) can only be expected to have a violent phase doesn’t really hold water.

    First, during the times of the Crusades and the Inquisition the world in general was a brutal, nasty place. Christianity may not have risen above the violence, but neither did it sink below societal norms.

    In the 21st Century people should know better. They have access to information and legal systems that would allow them to settle their differences like civilized human beings. Instead, they choose to be butchers. They choose to be evil.

  58. #203858
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:40 am, ThackerAgency said:

    Musharraf was behind this 100%. He has done everything he could to stay in power over the past year. Why allow an election to take place and jeopardize his authority there? Think Lebanon with the Syrian assassinations a couple years ago.

    “We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English.

    Funny how this guy didn’t consider the MILITARY GENERAL OF PAKISTAN (Musharraf) as someone who ‘vowed to defeat the mujahadeen’. Isn’t Bush’s line, you are for us or against us? Musharraf was supposed to be ‘for us’. It speaks volumes that he considered this person more dangerous than Musharraf. We should have treated Pakistan like Afghanistan and Iraq from the word ‘go’. We need to get with India to join forces and clean house in Pakistan. The longer we wait, the more difficult it will be. . . and more bloodshed.

  59. #203860
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:40 am, sivapragasam said:

    The Aftermath.

    The only two leaders left in Pakistan are Nawaz Shereif and former Supreme Court Chief Justice Ifthekar Choudary

    Those who know the history of Pakistan will remember that it was during Nawaz Shereif’s rule when Musharraf took over the country in a military coup to become its chief executive. No way will Musharraf will allow Nawaz to gain prominence.
    The Chief Justice has a open grudge against the President owing to his rulings against Musharraf and his subsequent removal as chief Justice and house arrest.

    Musharraf imposed and repealed emergency and he will have all the temerity and tenacity to say “See, I told you so, now look what has happened”. The only way to salvage what is left of the country after this bloddy mess is to impose emergency again.

    Remember Pakistan is a nuclear nation. Musharraf has put in strict control over Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal and assured the US the it will not get into the hands of AQ. He will always use this threat to win US and the west.

    Also, the only way to unite Pakistan is to inflame anti India sentiments. That has been the sole factor uniting the geographically contiguous, culturally, ethnically diverse provinces that have become to form Pakistan.

    The result of this in the near future will be more insecurity in South Asia and more blood shed in India.

  60. #203867
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:42 am, swj719AWG said:

    First, during the times of the Crusades and the Inquisition the world in general was a brutal, nasty place.

    And the modern world isn’t?

    Lynchings of the early 1900’s, rampant abortion, ethnic cleansing in places like Darfur, school shootings…

    The world is alway a brutal place…

  61. #203868
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:43 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Way too much violence.

  62. #203872
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:47 am, Chuck said:

    katieanne said:

    It is a horrifying reality that many people in this world believe murder is the way to deal with a difference of opinion.

    This is all about power. The islamofascists are all about power. They bend the religion so that they are in supreme control of their subjects lives. Any challenge must be literally killed off. I mean, any ‘religion’ that puts out a death warrant if you leave the religion tells you all you need to know.

  63. #203875
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:47 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    And Queen Hillary, as we speak, is having her staff write a statement that will make her the “American Benazir” — a brave woman trying to stare down misogyny for the noble goal of…political power.

    She’ll probably come out and talk about Bush’s failed foreign policies, and how she would’ve prevented this whole thing in the first place.

    She’s “experienced” remember?

  64. #203877
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:48 am, Alaskan said:

    Interesting times ahead. If Pakistan slips into chaos, unrest will spread to India. At the other end of the band, Turkey has seemed a bit shaky and vulnerable recently. Meanwhile to the north there are a bunch of little known, somewhat Muslim countries that aren’t being held down by the Soviet Union anymore.
    The Assassins’ War has already begun.

  65. #203882
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:52 am, franksalterego said:

    The bottom line:

    Islamic Terrorism is one step closer to Nuclear Weapons.

    tick…tick…tick…

  66. #203890
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:56 am, gollumclone said:

    With all her flaws, the lady had a set on her and was very courageous. She put herself at grave risk for what she truly believed in. Meanwhile islamotrashwussOsama continues to hide in his cave. I’m kind of surprised Mushariff is still around in one piece and also that the terrorists haven’t managed anything against Western leaders.

  67. #203891
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:57 am, Rusty said:

    Christianity may not have risen above the violence, but neither did it sink below societal norms.

    I don’t want this to become a Christianity v. Islam debate. I made the point about Christianity because someone said that Islam and democracy were like oil and water. Which at one point was true for Christians as well. And in dealing with such a horrible tragedy, it doesn’t help to lose hope. This is a huge setback, but it’s not an endgame.

    Rioting is not a sane counter to the current violence and murder coming in the name of Islam. That you can’t see the difference is no surprise to me.

    Why isn’t it? When you live in a country with a sham government and your leader is assassinated by her opponents (either ideological or political), what do you have left? I’m not saying it’s right. I’m just saying it’s a response from the people you claim are being silent. Sometimes disobedience is necessary.

  68. #203894
    On December 27th, 2007 at 10:58 am, Rusty said:

    Islamic Terrorism is one step closer to Nuclear Weapons.

    Pakistan already has them.

  69. #203897
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:02 am, James Felix said:

    And the modern world isn’t?

    Lynchings of the early 1900’s, rampant abortion, ethnic cleansing in places like Darfur, school shootings…

    The world is alway a brutal place…

    You’re missing my point, perhaps willfully. The reason that shootings, lynchings and Darfur make news today is because that is not the way things usually are. Those are exceptions… not rare enough, granted, but exceptions nonetheless.

    In the world today there are entire continents where rule of law and respect for individual rights is the norm. Where true starvation is unheard of. Where the government lacks the authority to put your eye out for missing a tax payment. There was no so such place during the Middle Ages. And so the violence committed in Christ’s name was not peculiar to Christianity. It was normal behavior for the times.

    Islam today doesn’t even have that much of an excuse. Islam in today’s world is a uniquely violent cult, distinguished by its inability to peacefully coexist with anyone.

  70. #203899
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:02 am, swj719AWG said:

    Apparently there were attacks on some of the guy Musharraf ousted at the same time Bhutto was killed.

  71. #203908
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:10 am, MTNEER said:

    Strong elements of the Pakistani intellegence service, the ISI have been pro Taliban and Al Quaeda from the beginning. They helped set up the mujahedeen in the Soviet-Afghan war.

    It may be quite wrong to blame Musharraf for Bhuto’s asassination. He has much to lose in the resulting chaos. I don’t defend him, but I don’t condemn him out of hand either.

  72. #203918
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:18 am, Oink said:

    Ok, if AQ is taking credit for this, won’t this cause the Pakistani’s to unite against AQ? Seems to me that had Musharraf(sp) been killed instead, that assassination might have had more of a splintering effect.

  73. #203921
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:21 am, tony the tiger said:

    No mention in any of the 71 comments I read ahead of this about US forces which are “assisting” Pakisani security of their nukes… a prayer for them is in order, dontcha’ think?

    “This is the real Pakistan, and if we get democracy, this is the face of Pakistan the world will see, not the face of extremists who have thrived under dictatorships.” ~bhutto

  74. #203926
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:23 am, Oink said:

    Regarding my comment #72… I just heard that Bhutto was very pro-West. Apparently I just don’t understand the situation. Sorry. :(

    Very worrisome to put it mildly. That much I do know!

  75. #203929
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:26 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    MM was right, from this link:

    Daily Kos and the folks at Huffington Post (via Jammie) keep confusing who the real enemies are. They keep pushing the pablum that events in Pakistan are due to the Bush Administration,

    The left just can’t help themselves. This was Bush’s fault.

    They really need to give it a rest. It’s getting old.

  76. #203930
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:30 am, Laree said:

    I wonder if these two events are related. the taliban and alqaeda are drug dealers, thugs.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071227/ts_nm/afghan_expulsion_dc_7;_ylt=AvaTWKTiLhJ6.hEFrqKtuHcE1vAI

  77. #203932
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:30 am, gollumclone said:

    #71, #72

    I think Musharraf is doing the best with the hand given him. Something like 48% of Pakistanis actually are supportive of Al Qaeda and the Taliban on some level. So why would that large segment be hissed off if those terrorists killed Bhutto. It sure seems easy to get close to the leaders over and there and I believe Musharraf himself has survived numerous plots and attempts.
    Thank God that Bush has rounded up so many of the rabble dissenters here and put them in internment camps. So many DUers, Kos Kids, Code Pinkers and moron.org functionaries have been silenced. I expect that the Hollywood traitors will be rounded up soon.

  78. #203935
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:33 am, steveegg said:

    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:30 am, Laree said:

    Let’s make that link theme-friendly.

  79. #203936
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:33 am, Rusty said:

    They helped set up the mujahedeen in the Soviet-Afghan war.

    So did America.

    And re the Bush-bashing…the president’s alliance with terrorist coddling countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in the “War on Terror” has always been controversial and perhaps (probably) foolhardy. When things go wrong in countries that have the president’s support, people should be upset.

  80. #203939
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:34 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Rudy “Brought to Justice” Guiliani, ha. Saber rattling makes the hawks salivate.

  81. #203944
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:36 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Is this a pretext to another invasion and bombing (unstable nuclear Middle Eastern country on verge of collapse requiring preemptive strike to quell threat of further destabilization efforts launched by Iran)?

  82. #203952
    On December 27th, 2007 at 11:41 am, Laree said:

    Thank you Steveegg,

    I don’t want to call what happened to Bhutto a distraction but people in this part of the world play a whole different kind of political game, then the west. When your looking in one spot at a huge tradgedy, something else is going on unnoticed under everyone’s noses. The MSM gets manipulated all the time.

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