<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Bush to veto defense policy bill</title>
	<atom:link href="http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/</link>
	<description>news and commentary from a conservative perspective</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:50:21 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mr_Conservative_Cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-217003</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr_Conservative_Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-217003</guid>
		<description>Well, after 7 years it&#039;s a tad late in the game, but I&#039;m glad W&#039;s administration lawyers have finally started reading the fine print on the final drafts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, after 7 years it&#8217;s a tad late in the game, but I&#8217;m glad W&#8217;s administration lawyers have finally started reading the fine print on the final drafts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Army</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-205488</link>
		<dc:creator>Army</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-205488</guid>
		<description>Hmmm, &quot;Justice for Victims&quot;. If that doesn&#039;t have John Edwards signature all over it....

I guess ArmoredCav and I will have to worry a few more weeks to see if we will be getting enough beans, bullets, and band-aids that enable us to keep these islamic cult murderers away from the USA and &lt;strong&gt;US military protected members of Congress.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Shukran&lt;/em&gt; Nancy, for making make this war a lot tougher to fight than it needs to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, &#8220;Justice for Victims&#8221;. If that doesn&#8217;t have John Edwards signature all over it&#8230;.</p>
<p>I guess ArmoredCav and I will have to worry a few more weeks to see if we will be getting enough beans, bullets, and band-aids that enable us to keep these islamic cult murderers away from the USA and <strong>US military protected members of Congress.</strong></p>
<p><em>Shukran</em> Nancy, for making make this war a lot tougher to fight than it needs to be.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ArmoredCAV</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-205251</link>
		<dc:creator>ArmoredCAV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-205251</guid>
		<description>As long as I get the back pay, and in its currently untaxed way, I am okay with this.  Looks to me like someone tried to be slick. I am all for crushing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as I get the back pay, and in its currently untaxed way, I am okay with this.  Looks to me like someone tried to be slick. I am all for crushing them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: iamsaved</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-205175</link>
		<dc:creator>iamsaved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-205175</guid>
		<description>It may also have to do with the slimy way Reid is holding the Senate in session to avoid President Bush making recess appointments.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush announced he would scuttle the bill with a &quot;pocket veto&quot; — essentially, letting the bill die without his signature 10 days after he received it, or the end of Dec. 31.

But that can happen only when Congress is not in session; otherwise, the bill becomes law without a formal veto in 10 days. And the Senate maintains it is in session by holding brief — sometimes only seconds long — meetings every two or three days with only one senator present.

The White House&#039;s view is that Congress has adjourned.

It was unclear how the executive and legislative branches would determine whether, in fact, Bush&#039;s lack of signature would amount to vetoing the bill or turning it into law.

&quot;My withholding of approval from the bill precludes its becoming law,&quot; Bush said in a statement of disapproval sent to Congress.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may also have to do with the slimy way Reid is holding the Senate in session to avoid President Bush making recess appointments.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Bush announced he would scuttle the bill with a &#8220;pocket veto&#8221; — essentially, letting the bill die without his signature 10 days after he received it, or the end of Dec. 31.</p>
<p>But that can happen only when Congress is not in session; otherwise, the bill becomes law without a formal veto in 10 days. And the Senate maintains it is in session by holding brief — sometimes only seconds long — meetings every two or three days with only one senator present.</p>
<p>The White House&#8217;s view is that Congress has adjourned.</p>
<p>It was unclear how the executive and legislative branches would determine whether, in fact, Bush&#8217;s lack of signature would amount to vetoing the bill or turning it into law.</p>
<p>&#8220;My withholding of approval from the bill precludes its becoming law,&#8221; Bush said in a statement of disapproval sent to Congress.</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: pressto</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204992</link>
		<dc:creator>pressto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204992</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hate to come anywhere near siding with the Dems, but it does strike me as odd that the White House wouldn’t have signaled its opposition to the provision so it could be fixed before the bill passed. There has to be more back story here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I am hearing is this was a little slip in measure that was not in the original bill and as was pointed out it got slipped in with the Senate version. It was a last minute change that was not noticed until they read the final version of the bill before signing it. 

What is strange is Rep. Pelosi talking about this, when it was the Senate that changed it and she also knew nothing of this provision until the President stated he was going to veto it. 

What this bill showed me is how the Democrats in the House and Senate are not working together. It is why they can not get any real legislation passed when they keep doing their own thing without informing the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hate to come anywhere near siding with the Dems, but it does strike me as odd that the White House wouldn’t have signaled its opposition to the provision so it could be fixed before the bill passed. There has to be more back story here.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am hearing is this was a little slip in measure that was not in the original bill and as was pointed out it got slipped in with the Senate version. It was a last minute change that was not noticed until they read the final version of the bill before signing it. </p>
<p>What is strange is Rep. Pelosi talking about this, when it was the Senate that changed it and she also knew nothing of this provision until the President stated he was going to veto it. </p>
<p>What this bill showed me is how the Democrats in the House and Senate are not working together. It is why they can not get any real legislation passed when they keep doing their own thing without informing the public.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204970</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204970</guid>
		<description>I think the &quot;back story&quot; is just poor staff work in the White House. Not unheard of but in this case, inexcusable.

Here they had this great victory and now they have to backtrack on it which gives the dems another bite at the apple. And this time, there&#039;s the excuse that the WH didn&#039;t do their homework - an opening for the Democrats to work a little mischief into the bill.

Someone&#039;s head should roll over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the &#8220;back story&#8221; is just poor staff work in the White House. Not unheard of but in this case, inexcusable.</p>
<p>Here they had this great victory and now they have to backtrack on it which gives the dems another bite at the apple. And this time, there&#8217;s the excuse that the WH didn&#8217;t do their homework &#8211; an opening for the Democrats to work a little mischief into the bill.</p>
<p>Someone&#8217;s head should roll over this.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mlog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204946</link>
		<dc:creator>mlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204946</guid>
		<description>It was obviously a bone tossed to the trial lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was obviously a bone tossed to the trial lawyers.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ProudGulfWarVet65</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204945</link>
		<dc:creator>ProudGulfWarVet65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204945</guid>
		<description>This actually might&#039;ve been a smart move, Michelle. I&#039;m being charitable here (tis the season, y&#039;know), but if the idea was to signal to Congress that the admin. is actually scrutinizing legislation and won&#039;t let them get away with cute stunts like this, more power to em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This actually might&#8217;ve been a smart move, Michelle. I&#8217;m being charitable here (tis the season, y&#8217;know), but if the idea was to signal to Congress that the admin. is actually scrutinizing legislation and won&#8217;t let them get away with cute stunts like this, more power to em.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ExCarMagGuy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204940</link>
		<dc:creator>ExCarMagGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204940</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s one bill (the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008) &lt;strong&gt;that had the litigation provision added in the Senate&lt;/strong&gt; (albeit in their special way, because all spending bills must originate in the House.) 

From the Thomas.gov link:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
There are 7 versions of Bill Number H.R.1585 for the 110th Congress
1 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Introduced in House)[H.R.1585.IH]
2 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Reported in House)[H.R.1585.RH]
3 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.1585.EH]
4 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.1585.PCS]
5 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Public Print)[H.R.1585.PP]
6 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.1585.EAS]
7 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.1585.ENR]&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one bill (the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008) <strong>that had the litigation provision added in the Senate</strong> (albeit in their special way, because all spending bills must originate in the House.) </p>
<p>From the Thomas.gov link:</p>
<blockquote><p>
There are 7 versions of Bill Number H.R.1585 for the 110th Congress<br />
1 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Introduced in House)[H.R.1585.IH]<br />
2 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Reported in House)[H.R.1585.RH]<br />
3 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.1585.EH]<br />
4 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.1585.PCS]<br />
5 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Public Print)[H.R.1585.PP]<br />
6 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.1585.EAS]<br />
7 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.1585.ENR]</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ctmom</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204905</link>
		<dc:creator>ctmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204905</guid>
		<description>Is this the omnibus bill or were two bills thousands of pages long?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the omnibus bill or were two bills thousands of pages long?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ExCarMagGuy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204894</link>
		<dc:creator>ExCarMagGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204894</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s wrong to say that it is worse than the last Republican Congress, or any Republican Congress in the past decade.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You may want to reconsider that opinion.

Unlike the current Pelosi/Reid clownship, the last Republican congress wasn&#039;t intent on demoralizing and cutting off funding for our troops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s wrong to say that it is worse than the last Republican Congress, or any Republican Congress in the past decade.</p></blockquote>
<p>You may want to reconsider that opinion.</p>
<p>Unlike the current Pelosi/Reid clownship, the last Republican congress wasn&#8217;t intent on demoralizing and cutting off funding for our troops.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lgm</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204877</link>
		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204877</guid>
		<description>So, it takes two (Congress and Bush) working together to not get anything done.  But before you go too far complaining about how this Congress doesn&#039;t pass important bills, the last Republican Congress didn&#039;t manage to pass a budget at all.  

It&#039;s correct to say that the Democratic Congress doesn&#039;t look good.  It&#039;s wrong to say that it is worse than the last Republican Congress, or any Republican Congress in the past decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it takes two (Congress and Bush) working together to not get anything done.  But before you go too far complaining about how this Congress doesn&#8217;t pass important bills, the last Republican Congress didn&#8217;t manage to pass a budget at all.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s correct to say that the Democratic Congress doesn&#8217;t look good.  It&#8217;s wrong to say that it is worse than the last Republican Congress, or any Republican Congress in the past decade.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ExCarMagGuy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204867</link>
		<dc:creator>ExCarMagGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204867</guid>
		<description>After a couple of minutes on thomas.gov, it looks like it was a Senate amendment. It was NOT in the engrossed House Bill.

In the Senate &quot;Public Print&quot;, the provision first appeared originally entitled:
&lt;blockquote&gt;SEC. 1087. JUSTICE FOR MARINES AND OTHER VICTIMS OF STATE-SPONSORED TERRORISM ACT.
       (a) Short Title- This section may be cited as the `Justice for Marines and Other Victims of State-Sponsored Terrorism Act&#039;.

      (b) Terrorism Exception to Immunity- 

            (1) IN GENERAL- Chapter 97 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 1605 the following:

`Sec. 1605A. Terrorism exception to the jurisdictional immunity of a foreign state

      `(a) In General- 

            `(1) NO IMMUNITY- A foreign state shall not be immune from the jurisdiction of courts of the United States or of the States in any case not otherwise covered by this chapter in which money damages are sought against a foreign state for personal injury or death that was caused by an act of torture, extrajudicial killing, aircraft sabotage, hostage taking, or the provision of material support or resources (as defined in section 2339A of title 18) for such an act if such act or provision of material support is engaged in by an official, employee, or agent of such foreign state while acting within the scope of his or her office, employment, or agency.

...snip..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the final &quot;Enrolled as Agreed to by both House and Senate&quot; version that went to the President, that section was further modified and renumbered to 1083.

This will take you to the various versions of the bill:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1585:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a couple of minutes on thomas.gov, it looks like it was a Senate amendment. It was NOT in the engrossed House Bill.</p>
<p>In the Senate &#8220;Public Print&#8221;, the provision first appeared originally entitled:</p>
<blockquote><p>SEC. 1087. JUSTICE FOR MARINES AND OTHER VICTIMS OF STATE-SPONSORED TERRORISM ACT.<br />
       (a) Short Title- This section may be cited as the `Justice for Marines and Other Victims of State-Sponsored Terrorism Act&#8217;.</p>
<p>      (b) Terrorism Exception to Immunity- </p>
<p>            (1) IN GENERAL- Chapter 97 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 1605 the following:</p>
<p>`Sec. 1605A. Terrorism exception to the jurisdictional immunity of a foreign state</p>
<p>      `(a) In General- </p>
<p>            `(1) NO IMMUNITY- A foreign state shall not be immune from the jurisdiction of courts of the United States or of the States in any case not otherwise covered by this chapter in which money damages are sought against a foreign state for personal injury or death that was caused by an act of torture, extrajudicial killing, aircraft sabotage, hostage taking, or the provision of material support or resources (as defined in section 2339A of title 18) for such an act if such act or provision of material support is engaged in by an official, employee, or agent of such foreign state while acting within the scope of his or her office, employment, or agency.</p>
<p>&#8230;snip..</p></blockquote>
<p>In the final &#8220;Enrolled as Agreed to by both House and Senate&#8221; version that went to the President, that section was further modified and renumbered to 1083.</p>
<p>This will take you to the various versions of the bill:</p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1585" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1585</a>:</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Alert:Because Of Dem Shenanigans, Bush Will Veto The Defence Bill</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204865</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Alert:Because Of Dem Shenanigans, Bush Will Veto The Defence Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204865</guid>
		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin: Hate to come anywhere near siding with the Dems, but it does strike me as odd that the White House wouldn’t have signaled its opposition to the provision so it could be fixed before the bill passed. There has to be more back story here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michelle Malkin: Hate to come anywhere near siding with the Dems, but it does strike me as odd that the White House wouldn’t have signaled its opposition to the provision so it could be fixed before the bill passed. There has to be more back story here. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BlameAmericaLast</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-204858</link>
		<dc:creator>BlameAmericaLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/bush-to-veto-defense-policy-bill/#comment-204858</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I have very &quot;few&quot; conservative lawyers as friends too...what I&#039;m referring to are the John Edwards types of the world...sue the &quot;big companies for everything they&#039;ve got&quot; kinds.

You know, big pharma, big insurance, etc., so the rest of us have to pay higher prices and higher premiums. 

Since there are billions involved in Iraqi money, what better way to make a fast buck than off the US government taxpayers right?

THAT is what I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have very &#8220;few&#8221; conservative lawyers as friends too&#8230;what I&#8217;m referring to are the John Edwards types of the world&#8230;sue the &#8220;big companies for everything they&#8217;ve got&#8221; kinds.</p>
<p>You know, big pharma, big insurance, etc., so the rest of us have to pay higher prices and higher premiums. </p>
<p>Since there are billions involved in Iraqi money, what better way to make a fast buck than off the US government taxpayers right?</p>
<p>THAT is what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

