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		<title>By: Dr. Lead Based Paint</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/more-on-the-latest-tb-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-206097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Lead Based Paint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve got HUNDREDS of TB-infected illegal alien working at the Columbia Farms chicken plant in Greenville, SC.  The news story was squashed shortly after it was released.  Health officials have done nothing and they care nothing about the thousands of innocent people that have come into contact with these people since their contagious illness was discovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got HUNDREDS of TB-infected illegal alien working at the Columbia Farms chicken plant in Greenville, SC.  The news story was squashed shortly after it was released.  Health officials have done nothing and they care nothing about the thousands of innocent people that have come into contact with these people since their contagious illness was discovered.</p>
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		<title>By: 24Klady</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/more-on-the-latest-tb-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-205404</link>
		<dc:creator>24Klady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are thousands, upon thousands of Indian immigrants living in CA..If she was returning home to visit relatives she has some of the finest medical facilities in that part of the world to treat her.  For gosh sakes, millions of people are going to India on &quot;medical vacations&quot; for treatment of conditions the patients cannot afford in the U.S., Canada, Europe or Australia.  She would also have had a support base to take care of her if she were visiting relatives there.  If she was an ordinary tourist from the U.S. to India - perhaps that was the lynchpin to travel back so quickly.  Either way, there is way more to the story, and I&#039;m not giving her a pass until more is learned.

Next time you travel, think of all the surfaces your hands and face come in contact with while traveling - plus your shoes and bag (that is more convenient to sit on the floor than hold)?  This is something like a 16 hr. flight, just navigating the isles to and from the restrooms, sitting in passenger boarding areas at the terminals, restrooms with warm humidity levels, gift shops, restaurants - the list is endless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are thousands, upon thousands of Indian immigrants living in CA..If she was returning home to visit relatives she has some of the finest medical facilities in that part of the world to treat her.  For gosh sakes, millions of people are going to India on &#8220;medical vacations&#8221; for treatment of conditions the patients cannot afford in the U.S., Canada, Europe or Australia.  She would also have had a support base to take care of her if she were visiting relatives there.  If she was an ordinary tourist from the U.S. to India &#8211; perhaps that was the lynchpin to travel back so quickly.  Either way, there is way more to the story, and I&#8217;m not giving her a pass until more is learned.</p>
<p>Next time you travel, think of all the surfaces your hands and face come in contact with while traveling &#8211; plus your shoes and bag (that is more convenient to sit on the floor than hold)?  This is something like a 16 hr. flight, just navigating the isles to and from the restrooms, sitting in passenger boarding areas at the terminals, restrooms with warm humidity levels, gift shops, restaurants &#8211; the list is endless!</p>
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		<title>By: BlameAmericaLast</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlameAmericaLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is infectious -- just heard on Fox News. She was also being treated while she was in India prior to her flight home. 

She&#039;s in isolation now until she is no longer infectious.

This is a multi-drug resistant form, and people that flew on that long flight back should be concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is infectious &#8212; just heard on Fox News. She was also being treated while she was in India prior to her flight home. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s in isolation now until she is no longer infectious.</p>
<p>This is a multi-drug resistant form, and people that flew on that long flight back should be concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: leepro</title>
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		<dc:creator>leepro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: #26 right_on

Right on, right_on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: #26 right_on</p>
<p>Right on, right_on!</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/more-on-the-latest-tb-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-205043</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s just not enough info to panic yet. Even if she was infected, she would have to have an active case of TB - actually coughing, etc. in order to be contagious.

Andrew Speaker was never contagious and he was vilified by everyone. There are many carriers out there who never become sick and never infect anyone.

The greater concern should be illegals who are never screened for disease. That&#039;s where the increase in TB cases (and other diseases) is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s just not enough info to panic yet. Even if she was infected, she would have to have an active case of TB &#8211; actually coughing, etc. in order to be contagious.</p>
<p>Andrew Speaker was never contagious and he was vilified by everyone. There are many carriers out there who never become sick and never infect anyone.</p>
<p>The greater concern should be illegals who are never screened for disease. That&#8217;s where the increase in TB cases (and other diseases) is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TB is not as easy to contract as everyone is making it sound, although the recycled air onboard an aircraft does, indeed, help.  However, just coming into contact with an infected person is not enough to spread the disease.  Many health Care Providers test positive every year for exposure and NEVER actually contract this disease.

The spectre of TB has earned its place amongst the worlds scariest diseases, and we can actually thank Liberalism and heir acceptance of the heroin junkies and professional &quot;Residentially Challenged Urban Nomads&quot;, (bums and winos) along with their huge welcome mat they have out for all those &quot;Undocumented Citizens&quot; living in he shadows working all hose jobs Americans can&#039;t...I mean won&#039;t work for this super strain.  

While still caught the same way, it has mutated to show resistance to all previous treatments.

If you are  healthy individual, you generally need not worry.  It is spread from the water droplets of an infected individual into mucous glnds such as eyes, mouth, nose.  Don&#039;t have people cough on or near you.  Wash you hands and use hand saniyizer.  Keep clean and avoid recent immigrants or people who have returned from over seas with flu or cold like symptoms.

This health advisory brought to you today bby your Compassionate Conservative Paramedic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TB is not as easy to contract as everyone is making it sound, although the recycled air onboard an aircraft does, indeed, help.  However, just coming into contact with an infected person is not enough to spread the disease.  Many health Care Providers test positive every year for exposure and NEVER actually contract this disease.</p>
<p>The spectre of TB has earned its place amongst the worlds scariest diseases, and we can actually thank Liberalism and heir acceptance of the heroin junkies and professional &#8220;Residentially Challenged Urban Nomads&#8221;, (bums and winos) along with their huge welcome mat they have out for all those &#8220;Undocumented Citizens&#8221; living in he shadows working all hose jobs Americans can&#8217;t&#8230;I mean won&#8217;t work for this super strain.  </p>
<p>While still caught the same way, it has mutated to show resistance to all previous treatments.</p>
<p>If you are  healthy individual, you generally need not worry.  It is spread from the water droplets of an infected individual into mucous glnds such as eyes, mouth, nose.  Don&#8217;t have people cough on or near you.  Wash you hands and use hand saniyizer.  Keep clean and avoid recent immigrants or people who have returned from over seas with flu or cold like symptoms.</p>
<p>This health advisory brought to you today bby your Compassionate Conservative Paramedic</p>
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		<title>By: DragonHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>DragonHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure it is very difficult to find out you have such a disease when you are far from home. It still does not give you the right to expose others to your disease just because you want to be home with your family and medical facilities that you trust more.

Some people out there have compromised immune systems (transplant patients, kidney patients, people with diabetes, etc) who could be very easily killed by exposure to something like this.

I don&#039;t mean to be  disrepectful, but consider this: Would you still be trying to understand her &#039;side&#039; of things if it was your elderly grandmother that died because of her desire to be back home? How about a cousin with Diabetes? A sister in law that just had breast surgery to remove a cancer?

Think about it. She clearly did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it is very difficult to find out you have such a disease when you are far from home. It still does not give you the right to expose others to your disease just because you want to be home with your family and medical facilities that you trust more.</p>
<p>Some people out there have compromised immune systems (transplant patients, kidney patients, people with diabetes, etc) who could be very easily killed by exposure to something like this.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be  disrepectful, but consider this: Would you still be trying to understand her &#8217;side&#8217; of things if it was your elderly grandmother that died because of her desire to be back home? How about a cousin with Diabetes? A sister in law that just had breast surgery to remove a cancer?</p>
<p>Think about it. She clearly did not.</p>
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		<title>By: gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget the bigger threat.

Illegals crossing the borders every second of every day, infesting our country with diseases.

I blame our government for the many deaths to come due to once eradicated diseases - returning to the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the bigger threat.</p>
<p>Illegals crossing the borders every second of every day, infesting our country with diseases.</p>
<p>I blame our government for the many deaths to come due to once eradicated diseases &#8211; returning to the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Azygos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azygos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30,

Yes, she would have had some kind of positive culture (probably sputum) for them to know it was multi-drug resistant TB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30,</p>
<p>Yes, she would have had some kind of positive culture (probably sputum) for them to know it was multi-drug resistant TB.</p>
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		<title>By: katieanne</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/28/more-on-the-latest-tb-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-204919</link>
		<dc:creator>katieanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The woman, whose name has not been released, was reportedly diagnosed with multidrug-resistant TB while in India and was being treated for the disease before she returned to the Bay Area on Dec. 13.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t that mean she was actually infected, if she was diagnosed with TB and put into isolation upon her return?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The woman, whose name has not been released, was reportedly diagnosed with multidrug-resistant TB while in India and was being treated for the disease before she returned to the Bay Area on Dec. 13.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that mean she was actually infected, if she was diagnosed with TB and put into isolation upon her return?</p>
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		<title>By: Patchthebun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patchthebun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, #27.  Thats what happened to my hubby.  He failed the skin test and can never take one again.  He was exposed, not infected.  We do need to know if she was exposed or actually infected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, #27.  Thats what happened to my hubby.  He failed the skin test and can never take one again.  He was exposed, not infected.  We do need to know if she was exposed or actually infected.</p>
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		<title>By: katieanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>katieanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said right_on, #26.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said right_on, #26.</p>
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		<title>By: macerenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>macerenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been exposed to TB myself, and having taken the INH (pills) for it, I can testify to something that others who have not been through this ordeal do not know... Doctors do not always tell you the difference between being &lt;em&gt;exposed&lt;/em&gt; and being &lt;em&gt;infected&lt;/em&gt;. It is possible, though unlikely, that she thought that she had been exposed but was not a carrier of active TB. I know that when I failed my skin test, the doctor never told me the difference, only that I hda TB. I thought I was infected and tried to avoid spreading the disease to others, until a pharmacist informed me that I would not be taking that particular med if I was actually infected with contagious TB. Now, if the woman is actually from a place where a lot of people are exposed but never infected, then she probbly thought she was just exposed. In that light, it is probable that the blame lies with the doctor who failed to inform her that she was contagious. As an aside, I firmly believe that people that carry contagious TB, ebola, smallpox, etc should be quarantined immediately upon diagnosis... If I were diagnosed with such a disease, I would &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to be quarantined, where I could get immediate and constant medical attention until cured or until &lt;em&gt;the end&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been exposed to TB myself, and having taken the INH (pills) for it, I can testify to something that others who have not been through this ordeal do not know&#8230; Doctors do not always tell you the difference between being <em>exposed</em> and being <em>infected</em>. It is possible, though unlikely, that she thought that she had been exposed but was not a carrier of active TB. I know that when I failed my skin test, the doctor never told me the difference, only that I hda TB. I thought I was infected and tried to avoid spreading the disease to others, until a pharmacist informed me that I would not be taking that particular med if I was actually infected with contagious TB. Now, if the woman is actually from a place where a lot of people are exposed but never infected, then she probbly thought she was just exposed. In that light, it is probable that the blame lies with the doctor who failed to inform her that she was contagious. As an aside, I firmly believe that people that carry contagious TB, ebola, smallpox, etc should be quarantined immediately upon diagnosis&#8230; If I were diagnosed with such a disease, I would <em>want</em> to be quarantined, where I could get immediate and constant medical attention until cured or until <em>the end</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: right_on</title>
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		<dc:creator>right_on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cpodug

I do understand what you are sayng, but my point is, that once we try to &quot;see all sides&quot; in a situation which is morally, and ethically wrong, we sometimes fall into an emotional trap we set for ourselves. 

Trying to &quot;understand&quot; where this woman&#039;s thought process failed, or why, is a futile exercise. There can be no excuse for what she did. As human beings, we have free agency...that is, the freedom to choose what we do or do not do. She chose poorly...I feel sorrow for her, and her family, but I choose not to be compassionate towards her because of her inhumane decision to take others with her. 

Short of putting her in solitary detention to prevent her from leaving, how could any medical establishment, or government for that matter, be held accountable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cpodug</p>
<p>I do understand what you are sayng, but my point is, that once we try to &#8220;see all sides&#8221; in a situation which is morally, and ethically wrong, we sometimes fall into an emotional trap we set for ourselves. </p>
<p>Trying to &#8220;understand&#8221; where this woman&#8217;s thought process failed, or why, is a futile exercise. There can be no excuse for what she did. As human beings, we have free agency&#8230;that is, the freedom to choose what we do or do not do. She chose poorly&#8230;I feel sorrow for her, and her family, but I choose not to be compassionate towards her because of her inhumane decision to take others with her. </p>
<p>Short of putting her in solitary detention to prevent her from leaving, how could any medical establishment, or government for that matter, be held accountable?</p>
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		<title>By: cpodug</title>
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		<dc:creator>cpodug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right_on, I&#039;d like to think I wouldn&#039;t. I&#039;d like to believe that I&#039;m more honorable than that. I spent 22 years in the service of my country, which I love more than you could ever imagine. However, we are all weak. If we were to have to face such a decision, who knows? Everything in me tells me I would rather die than put somebody else in jeopardy. Faced with a life-or-death decision? Flawed thought process though it might be, we are all human, and at some point the survival instinct kicks in. I can&#039;t speak for this woman. I&#039;m not defending her. All I&#039;m trying to do is point out what might have been going through her mind. 

But, as I said earlier, I still fault the medical establishment just as much as I fault her. Why did they release her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right_on, I&#8217;d like to think I wouldn&#8217;t. I&#8217;d like to believe that I&#8217;m more honorable than that. I spent 22 years in the service of my country, which I love more than you could ever imagine. However, we are all weak. If we were to have to face such a decision, who knows? Everything in me tells me I would rather die than put somebody else in jeopardy. Faced with a life-or-death decision? Flawed thought process though it might be, we are all human, and at some point the survival instinct kicks in. I can&#8217;t speak for this woman. I&#8217;m not defending her. All I&#8217;m trying to do is point out what might have been going through her mind. </p>
<p>But, as I said earlier, I still fault the medical establishment just as much as I fault her. Why did they release her?</p>
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