Impeachment Watch: Extreme BDS in Vermont

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 29, 2007 06:03 AM

Frustrated by the failure of the Dem leadership to carry through with impeachment, some Bush-haters in Brattleboro, Vermont want to subject President Bush and VP Cheney to arrest if they set foot in their town. Consider it sort of a do-it-yourself impeachment alternative:

President Bush may soon have a new reason to avoid left-leaning Vermont: In one town, activists want him subject to arrest for war crimes.

A group in Brattleboro is petitioning to put an item on a town meeting agenda in March that would make Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney subject to arrest and indictment if they visit the southeastern Vermont community.

“This petition is as radical as the Declaration of Independence, and it draws on that tradition in claiming a universal jurisdiction when governments fail to do what they’re supposed to do,” said Kurt Daims, 54, a retired machinist leading the drive.

As president, Bush has visited every state except Vermont.

The town meeting, an annual exercise in which residents gather to vote on everything from fire department budgets to municipal policy, requires about 1,000 signatures to place a binding item on the agenda.

The measure asks: “Shall the Selectboard instruct the Town Attorney to draft indictments against President Bush and Vice President Cheney for crimes against our Constitution, and publish said indictment for consideration by other municipalities?”

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment Friday. The press office did not immediately respond to an e-mail.

The state Senate in Vermont earlier this year approved an impeachment resolution. Guess there’s nothing else to worry about in the Green Mountain State.

Oh: Check out the Che Guevara beanie on Brattleboro BDS leader Kurt Daims.

FYI, Daims is looking for an “impeachment driver:”

This is a terrific chance to contribute to the impeachment movement. You could even make history. John Nirenberg has marched 300 miles from Boston. He is approaching Philadelphia and will be presenting petitions and letters for impeachment from all over New England to Nancy Pelosi in Washington D.C. John needs a new support driver for the first week or two of January.

The impeachment mob has quite the little racket going on. Earlier this week, Daims was hyped by a Huffington Post blogger Dan DeWalt, who likened the Brattleboro movement to the founding fathers forging the Declaration of Independence. DeWalt’s bio on HuffPo says he “authored the Newfane impeachment resolution passed in 7 Vermont towns in 2006.” (More here.)

HuffPo failed to disclose that Daims attempted to get the Brattleboro council to pass a measure that would:

…”for the sake of our nation and world, issue bonds and notes of $190,000 to hire two advocates who would attempt to impeach the president, and…
… that $30,000 to be awarded to Dan DeWalt of Newfane for his services….”

These people aren’t going away. As I’ve continued to report in my Impeachment Watch series, there’s a groundswell that will hit Washington after the New Year. It’s going to cause the Democrat leadership considerable heartache and headache. Many pundits are focusing on the supposed conservative crack-up. But keep your eye on the fissures spreading between the Dems and the extreme BDS left over this impeachment business.

Fireworks guaranteed.

***

What Nancy Pelosi has to look forward to via the Village Voice:

John Nirenberg would walk 500 miles. And it sounds like he would walk 500 more. But unlike the persistent pop tune by The Proclaimers, he refuses to be the man who falls down at Nancy Pelosi’s door.

Nirenberg, a hearty New York City native and current resident of Brattelboro, Vermont, intends to be standing when he reaches Washington, D.C. around January 10, at the conclusion of a scheduled 40-day walk that began in Boston on December 1. This fall, the 60-year-old professor of organizational behavior and Air Force veteran decided to traverse Route 1 on foot to implore House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to begin impeachment proceedings against President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

“It was about a whole collection of issues around the Constitution and the behavior of this administration,” explains Nirenberg, who finds that his sense of outrage and jogging background help him complete 15 miles per day. “Especially the torture issue, the spying, and an illegal war. All of this, at some point, was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I decided that I needed to do something different.”

In order to channel his frustration, Nirenberg founded the non-profit organization, March in My Name, where his trek can be followed on the Web site, www.marchinmyname.org

He hopes also that by collecting photos, testimonials and petition signatures, he can show Speaker Pelosi that popular support exists for her, at the very least, to allow the House Judiciary Committee to open a hearing into the behavior of the Bush administration.

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  1. #205311
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pm, right_on said:

    Hey, DL, are these berets still all made in China? I thought I read something about that several years ago.

  2. #205312
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:09 pm, DesertLover said:

    right_on

    I do not know where they are made … sorry …

  3. #205314
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:12 pm, RetFireman said:

    Thus why I have been calling their actions Seditious. It has been seditious in it’s very nature from day one. The members of the City Council or the Town fathers or whoever is in charge of this little fiasco in this burgh needs to be arrested forthwith for the crime of Sedition. IMMEDIATELY. This has all been done publically in the media and on the Internet. These people are wuite proud of what they are doing and, might I add, not only proud, but very smug. Thus, the Federal Prosecutor for this arrea needs to draw up the proper parerwork, the U.S. Marshalls office for this district needs to go in with as many Deputies as necessary and arrest every eingle person that has had a hand in or played a part in this act of sedition, or has committed any act of treason concerning this affair.

    Enough is enough. These people have gone well beyond simple Right of Free Speech issues. They are taking actions which directly affect the workings of this government and a sitting and lawfully elected President of their own country.

    If these acts do not constitute acts of treason and sedition, then there can be no such things as treason and sedition in this country.

    For Liberals to continue to get free passes to do whatever they want, to go where ever they want, to say and do whatever they want is just insane, and is teaching our future generations the wrong message. I would rather listen to these anti-American reasonous losers complain about how fascist we are from prison that to have them commit further attrocities against my country and my President one more day.

    What I want to know is what we, as a collective, can do? Is there a group letter we can all sign to the Federal Prosecutor to get him/her off their collective butts and to file a complaint? How can we get them arrested for sedition? how can we get this snowball rolling down this steep hill? Once it starts, it will be the only way to silence these anti-Americans and silence them once and for all, teach them a good and righteous lesson.

  4. #205318
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:18 pm, RetFireman said:

    DL…the original plan was dreamt up between Clinton and Schilinski in order that there would be “no class distinction in the military”, thus no hurt feelings.

    Scooter…shut the Hell up. You are boring the crap out of every one. You have nothing to contribute and you are what, 15? you weren’t even born when most of the stuff we are talking about was going on. Now go and play with the toys Santa brought you and let the grown ups talk. Mommy would be upset if she knew you kept interrupting, especially since you are on her computer.

  5. #205320
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:25 pm, DesertLover said:

    RetFireman …

    that is what I was referring to when I said “he had been lobbying for it for a long time” … all those UN soldiers with their powder blue and all those other euro-troops he spent so much time around … he just didn’t get to complete the change under Billy Boy … so he hit Rumsfeld with it immediately after the inauguration … January 20 – March 16 is not even long enough to be fully moved into an office … anyway … the link outlines the history of the beret in military all over the world …

  6. #205321
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:25 pm, calamityville said:

    Sadly BDS is quite prevalent in SWNH, where the ville is located, just across the river from Brattleboro. This area is largely responsible for NH turning blue. These people are driving me crazy.

  7. #205322
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pm, ttevolla said:

    One of My New Year Resolutions is to write as eloguently as RetFireman. You sir write monolouges worth memorizing.

  8. #205323
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:46 pm, RetFireman said:

    Well thank you. Mine is to restart my blog.

    Again though, how can we have every single one of these individuals arrested for sedition? If ever there was a cut and dry case, I would imagine that the actions of this town would fit the mold.

  9. #205324
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:49 pm, RetFireman said:

    I also want to thank for the reassurance about Vermont. It is a state I have always wanted to visit for its Hallmark card quality landscapes, and knowing that the whole place isn’t filled with escaped mental patients puts it back on my “bucket list”

  10. #205325
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:51 pm, scooter56 said:

    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:18 pm, RetFireman said:

    Scooter…shut the Hell up.

    first off…NO! I know you are real big on you being the one to decide who has the right to speak and who doesn’t but I choose to ignore those post of yours.

    All I did was point out it is a beret and not a beanie…….and that many fine people wear berets and are not Che worshipers….and then it becomes Bill Clintons fault because he wanted everyone in the army to appear gay (don’t ask, can’t tell?)……
    That said what I do find offensive in your comments is the

    used to lick the windows of the bus and the helmet got in the way

    and

    mentality of a short bus full of window lickers

    comments you make. Not because you directed one of those towards me (and some to others), but because of the terms themselves. You chose to pick on the weakest in our society.
    If you don’t include the dozen or so who live on this site every day, comment as experts on every topic, and the few who you banter with at the end of treads that turn into no more than chat rooms,You show very little respect to anyone else……and for yourself…….
    and as far as were the Armys berets are made….God I hope its Vermont!

  11. #205326
    On December 29th, 2007 at 3:57 pm, RetFireman said:

    OOOOoooo…looks like we found the trolls weak spot and I hit way too close to home. Good to know…especially since he, you know, ignored all my posts.

    A liar and a troll. Did I call it or what? Kinda fard to know all that stuff if you ignored my posts there skippy. Thanks for the ammo.

  12. #205329
    On December 29th, 2007 at 4:09 pm, RetFireman said:

    And still, you add nothing to the discussion, you add nothing to the debate, you add nothing period. You are a troll, pure and simple. You are now attempting to play the wounded innocent. Won’t work. You attacked the hostess of this site, first thing out of the chute this morning with your first post.

    YOU ARE A TROLL

    Don’t play the wounded innocent with us. Don’t oretend that you have feelings. If you can’t okay in an adult forum, I undersatnd Kos lets anyone post. You seem to be more their speed. Instead you are being a typical Liberal. You hurl salvo after salvo until someone gets a direct hit and then you play the victim and start in with the, “Your just an evil Republican” crap. It doesn’t work with me Skippy. Not in the least. I have used facts in every one of my postings, and have challenged you both today and in the past to disprove my posts using facts. You have yet to do so. Therefore, you are a liar and a fraud amongst a great many other things.

    Your game doesn’t work here. Period. You can try to do it, but this site has a large community of highly intelligent and well read individuals that will rip you to shreds intellectually, and that isn’t even counting the hostess that would leave you curled up on the floor in the fetal position wishing you had never heard of the Internet, let alone Politics.

    Now if you want to play, play nice, use your manners, and remember that Michelle is a lady and should be treated and addressed as such. When you start out with your rude, abusive crap like you did this morning, you can be damn sure that you will be treated accordingly by me and anyone else who sees it. It is not our fault that your parents did not teach you how to treat a lady or the females of our society, but it is never to late for you to learn.

    That goes for any other female on this site. You are here as a priveleged guest, just like the rest of us. Don’t think that it is a “right” of yours that you have. Stop abusing Michelle and we will stop abusing you. Stop acting like a troll and we will stop treating you like one. If you don’t like me, I frankly could care less. Believe me, I won;t lose sleep over it, for I would rather be friends with a rabid badger than someone who treats women and people the way you do. But you need to treat people here better and add to conversations, not just make smart ass little jibes and expect people to kiss you flabby butt.

  13. #205334
    On December 29th, 2007 at 4:21 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Psssst , don’t ask about pappa hugo :)

  14. #205336
    On December 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pm, Richard Romano said:

    This is pathetic — this old fool is nothing more than a self-loathing delusional leftist.

  15. #205344
    On December 29th, 2007 at 4:45 pm, DelosWorld said:

    Someone’s been eating too much Ben & Jerry’s Half Baked Arresting Nutcrunch imPeachment Moonbat Surprise ice cream.

    “This petition is as radical as the Declaration of Independence, and it draws on that tradition in claiming a universal jurisdiction when governments fail to do what they’re supposed to do,” said Kurt Daims, 54, a retired machinist leading the drive.

    Say, do you wonder if anyone in that town is pushing a petition to also have illegal aliens arrested in their town?

    Get me some non-Vermont ice cream – stat!

  16. #205349
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:07 pm, DanME said:

    Vermont is full of Fruit Cakes. Just look at their two US senators. Bernie Sanders
    is a outspoken socialist. It use to be a nice place, but it was invaded by all the far left liberals, greenies, etc.

  17. #205354
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pm, Laree said:

    What can we trade Canada for them taking Vermont?

  18. #205356
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:28 pm, Helene said:

    Hey, everyone needs a hobby. So John Nirenberg plans to walk to DC. He’ll get plenty of exercise and fresh (cough cough) air.
    He’s just another poorly informed angry person. Like the Hollywood weirdos he does not have the information to make an informed decision and has not been party to high-level decisions or information. My father used to say that it’s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
    It just boggles my mind that someone can get so amazing angry at someone they never met. Could you imagine living next door to this guy?
    Wowee.
    Glad I live in Maryland and he lives in Vermont.

  19. #205357
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pm, Texhoma said:

    Headlines that should be seen in tomorrows NYT and WaPo.

    NUCLEAR TESTING WILL RESUME IN 30 DAYS. VERMONT DECLARED AS NEW SITE FOR UNDERGROUND TESTING

    The PBS program AMERICA’S TEST KITCHEN will be testing new radiation cooking methods to reduce Green house gasses caused by cooking MEAT using Natural Gas.

  20. #205360
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    What will these nutbags do when GWB is no longer in office?

    Are they now going to suffer from Bush Derangement Withdrawal Syndrome?

  21. #205361
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:40 pm, docflash said:

    Retfireman,I like your post mostly,if I could get your email I will send you the real story of the black beret and why we wear it now.BTW mine was made in SriLanka.

  22. #205363
    On December 29th, 2007 at 5:52 pm, right_on said:

    Ahhh! Vermont’s lefties…a social(ist) experiment gone wrong!

  23. #205367
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:07 pm, Laree said:

    the 60-year-old professor of organizational behavior REALLY? what does that mean? he knows how to organize behavior?

    He is talking about a contract with history? The Constitution is a living document, he can go back to the Rev War Era. I am not walking that far back in time with him. He is talking about the colonies and the king? The Islamist do have something in common with this guy he lives in the ancient past too.

  24. #205368
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pm, right_on said:

    BlameAmericaLast nothing will change except their labels. They will go back to being referred to as dou**bags, dirtbags, scumbags, and scroats. They have become emboldened by the lack of judical willpower to prosecute their sedious anti-American behavior. As long as they have liberal allies in the media, and in congress, their affronts will go unpunished.

  25. #205373
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:15 pm, gayle said:

    News Flash in NC!

    Off topic, but important.

    The “new” law is…..immigrants brought to jails are to be asked IF they are legal or not. (proof?)

    If they say they are not, then ICE is to be notified. If ICE doesn’t respond, the illegal can pay his/her bond and set free.

    Of course, ICE doesn’t respond.

    CRAZY I tell you! I am so damnnnnnn mad. Is anyone listening in that hellhole in Raleigh?????????

    Help us out gang!!!!!!!! WRITE! CALL!

  26. #205374
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:19 pm, nyc123me said:

    Buy a little sh*tsplat island in the middle of nowhere, put a fence around it, drop the retarded lefties on it, and start training border guards there to make sure they stay in their own little world. They seem to despise everything, then let them do it on their own little space and stop bothering the humans.

  27. #205377
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pm, right_on said:

    Heh…we have Gitmo!

  28. #205382
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:36 pm, nyc123me said:

    bingo!

  29. #205383
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:39 pm, Laree said:

    I looked it up, professor of organizational behavior, there was a discription online.

    Organizational Behavior

    The organizational behavior group is dedicated to advancing research, teaching, and practice on the management of organizations. The group’s faculty research fundamental questions in organizational behavior, from both a social psychological and a sociological perspective, and publish their research in books and in the top management and social science journals.

    MBA courses in organizational behavior help students to understand behavior at both the individual and organization levels. Topics at the individual, or “micro” level, include: individual motivation and behavior, decision making, interpersonal communication and influence, small group behavior, and individual, dyadic, and inter-group conflict and cooperation. At the organization, or “macro” level, topics include organizational growth, organizational change, organizational learning, organizations and leadership, power, social networks, and social responsibility.

    More generally, the organizational behavior curriculum helps prepare students for their managerial careers, providing students with frameworks for diagnosing and dealing with the problems and opportunities that typically arise in organizational settings.

  30. #205384
    On December 29th, 2007 at 6:41 pm, Laree said:

    The above came from Stanford.

    http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/academicareas/ob.html

    This guy is a communicator, which boils down to he likes to hear himself talk.

  31. #205398
    On December 29th, 2007 at 7:32 pm, HeatherRadish said:

    The interesting thing I noticed when I was in VT in October was there were no American flags anywhere except post offices and other government buildings.

  32. #205399
    On December 29th, 2007 at 7:33 pm, foxforce91 said:

    On December 29th, 2007 at 12:02 pm, lgm said:
    Is it wrong to hate any President, or just this one? Think about your feelings for Bill Clinton. Maybe he should be impeached for minor actions unrelated to his duties as President. Oh wait, he was.

    Well personally I think he should have been impeached over burning 82 American men, women and children alive deliberately in Waco, TX – I don’t recall any peep out of your hypocritical pie-holes…? Nor do I recall any peep out of you people when the most corrupt administration ever (Clintons) was caught with over 400 personal FBI files of people guilty of disagreeing with Hillary “Cankles” Clinton, nor do I recall you being upset over White Water and the subsequent “suicide” of Vince Foster – but like it or not – using your authority to bully women into engaging in sex acts with you is called “sexual harrassment” in most places of work and purgery – you know – what Mr. Clinton was proven guilty of – is against the law. It’s why he was disbarred. You may want to read up on what is considered an impeachable offense – or on what impeachment actually is before you show us how ignorant you are of the facts. BTW: I voted for Clinton twice. THEY (the Clintons) made me a Republican for life.

  33. #205402
    On December 29th, 2007 at 7:39 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    We do have our strident wackos. re that I just e-mailed to Michelle a scan of the front page of today’s Rutland Herold, which not only carries this absurd idea being discussed in this thread on the front page, but takes it seriously! More to the point is an attempt at media manipulation graphically, and if Michelle sees fit to post it you can judge for yourselves. It’s pretty blatant.

    But hey, you do hundreds of thousands of good conservatives an injustice when you say Vermont is full of fruitcakes. Our fruitcakes are just more strident than most because they believe they live in isolation, meaning, of course, a dream world. conservatives are sensitive. Conservatives are sentimental for a purer time when God was held high by all and love and family were paramount. You’d love the Courier and Ives scenery right now. Magnificent. Every road in southern vermont is an interactive picture postcard. “Yum” doesn’t describe the half of it, the front page of the Rutland Herold notwithstanding.

  34. #205403
    On December 29th, 2007 at 7:39 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I took Organizational Behavior during my MBA program – it’s a fluff course – i.e., the easy “A” course.

  35. #205406
    On December 29th, 2007 at 7:44 pm, katieanne said:

    But hey, you do hundreds of thousands of good conservatives an injustice when you say Vermont is full of fruitcakes.

    Some of those conservatives need to speak out and attempt to bring rational discourse to the state. Many will start avoiding that state, as I plan to, when going up to Maine. Fruitcakes can do big damage in the long run.

  36. #205419
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:01 pm, 29Victor said:

    Impeachement drives are petulant, spoied Baby Boomer responses to issues that grown-ups used to settle at the ballot box.

    Since the Left cannot get popular support for their ideas they throw a tantrum and use these stupid, childish tactics to attempt to subvert the expressed will of the citizens of the United States.

    The guy walking to Washington D.C. might as well be threatining to hold his breath until mommy gives him what he wants.

  37. #205420
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:02 pm, 29Victor said:

    spoied=spoiled

  38. #205432
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm, Farmer_Joe said:

    I think Bush should go straight to Brattleboro and dare them to arrest him.

  39. #205437
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:37 pm, BOB said:

    I think I’m going to waterboard my Vermont Teddy Bear.

  40. #205438
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:42 pm, Rick Moran said:

    If this doesn’t prove that the left is a bunch of drama queens, I don’t know what will.

    If lefties don’t have drama in their life, they feel empty and usesless. This is why they exaggerate everything so fiercely. “Bush is tearing up the constitution” or Bush is a war criminal” coming from you or me would be seen as grounds for being committed.

    But coming from a lefty, that’s just they way they see themselves – saving the world from their imagined enemies.

    The country has neither the time nor the patience to put up with it which is why I suspect Hillary is running away from those folks and why Pelosi and Reid only give lip service to their agenda.

    Really pathetic when you think about it…

  41. #205439
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:42 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    On December 29th, 2007 at 7:44 pm, katieanne said:
    Some of those conservatives need to speak out and attempt to bring rational discourse to the state. Many will start avoiding that state, as I plan to, when going up to Maine. Fruitcakes can do big damage in the long run.

    I guess what you mean is if the conservatives don’t speak up then there is to be the improbable assumption that few or none actually exist – anywhere in the state – and so a wholesale boycott is in order. I make not one cent of my living from tourism in any way so it doesn’t effect me practically, but it does effect me emotionally because that hurts very good people.

    You infer that to be found acceptable the conservatives in this state need to speak out. Would you like to tell me how and where? The newspapers are entirely dominated by leftists (and you’ll see the extent if Michelle posts that pic- I hope she got it), and television, what little that originates from this state is mostly in Burlington which is entirely left-driven. So even if I spoke out, for instance, who would carry my voice far enough for you to hear me? I’m speaking to you now- as a conservative speaking up – but you’ll still skip this state. Even if thousands spoke up, you’d never hear about it, because at most it would be a dismissive blip on the local radar and the national mainstream media still wouldn’t hear of it, or pick it up if they did.

    This isn’t San Fran. I know San Fran and you could count the conservatives on a thimble. But this rugged, northeastern state has plenty of conservatives, but how to be heard?

    I’m open to suggestions.

    Othewise, let me give you a heads up: if liberals are the ones you want to hurt, then drive through and when you see a farm stand being manned by a family, rest assured they are almost certainly conservative. The liberals you can spot a mile away – old men with trendy beards, pony tails, you know, the typical liberal hippie remnent from the Triassic age. Have fun when you see one – drive by and shout, “support our troops” and then buy from the guy who looks like a hardworking American. There were some protestors on the street a few months back with signs reading “Stop the war”, so I called out, “Stop the middle-eastern terrorists!”. They just stood, flumoxed and gaping. True story. It was wonderful!In this state the chances are the kind of loonies you dislike can be seen a mile away – like all good “revolutionaries”, they wear their hippidom all about them. You can’t miss it.

    The fact is that there are plenty of hardworking conservatives in this state. And they deserve better than this.

  42. #205440
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm, Farmer_Joe said:
    I think Bush should go straight to Brattleboro and dare them to arrest him.

    If only Bush had the grapes. It’s a terrific idea. I can already imagine the glazed expressions and stammering. Too bad it won’t happen.

  43. #205442
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm, RetFireman said:

    Scooter Libby= Commits perjury allegedly and Democrats and Liberals all do flips and twists, call for his hanging in the public square, want to see him frog marched out of the office and that it is obviously a sign that there is deeper malfeasance going on in the White House, that Dick Cheney is dirty and so on and so forth.

    Bill Clinton= Impeached for Perjury, does not lose his job, does not go to jail, does lose his law license, Liberals and Democrats say how it is a nothing crime, how it is nothing but politically motivated, how there is nothing to it, that anyone will do it in court etc., etc, etc,.

    Now…where do we see the problem with this? Where do we see the liars and the people who are so dishonest that they cannot even keep their lies straight and their stories straight?

    Looks like the Democrats and the Liberals need to figure out which is it going to be, a serious hanging offense where there is obviously signs of other serious crimes where the person who committed the perjury (Scooter/Bill) is covering up other really heinous crimes, or that it is a nothing crime that they need to just ignore and no one should even bother with it and they should let them go, meaning noone should ever mention Scooter again, let alone Bush’s pardoning of him.

    What’s it going to be Trolls?

  44. #205444
    On December 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    Rick,

    That, by my experience and in my business I’ve known a truckload personally, a pretty accurate analysis. It is pathetic. But as long as they continue to angrily turn this country into something it was never meant to be, they’ll get no sympathy from me thanks. I just feel sorry for this state because alot of good people will suffer for the behavior of a nutty few (and it is only a few, they just seem like more because their media voice is so loud)

  45. #205451
    On December 29th, 2007 at 10:11 pm, RetFireman said:

    O/T:

    Go to netdisaster.com

    type in the name of a web site you think needs to have your wrath brought down upon it, say Hill-Dawgs, Kos or DU’s. Choose the manner of your wrath then choose auto or mouse and HAVE FUN.

    Yes, my 8 year old told me about this. Don’t ask.

  46. #205454
    On December 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pm, katieanne said:

    Mr. Conservative Cat, one of the few ways that an individual can make a difference is by making financial choices such as not viewing movies by Hollywood traitors, avoiding areas such as San Francisco, places where they do not support the military, cities that are sanctuary cities, etc. One small stand for sure, but it does make me feel better.

    Sorry, but I don’t buy your argument that conservatives in Vermont couldn’t fight back. If they wanted to be heard, they could be. You can make a difference here on MM. You can change perceptions. Many people read this site. O’Reilly would be up there in a flash if conservatives organized. There are plenty of outlets other than local rags to get opposing views from the state out. Also, if they couldn’t get their views out in the papers, take out an ad. It’s been done enough when editors won’t write fairly, but they will take your money for advertisements. Even the NY Times does that. It’s been done where I live, it makes a difference and people notice. Our local Republican clubs fight back all the time. Don’t tell me nothing can be done.

    Let me give YOU a heads up….don’t belittle others who sincerely respond in a negative way to the disgusting rot coming out of Vermont with your somewhat hostile sarcasm. The fruitcakes are destroying the state. Get mad at them. If the good people of Vermont do deserve better, than they need to fight for it. Silence only gives the illusion that the fools talking about impeachment and the other insane ideas speak for the majority. If that happens, the silent only have themselves to blame and will unfortunately reap what the radicals have sown.

  47. #205461
    On December 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pm, RetFireman said:

    DocFlash:

    Click on my name, we can discuss what you wanted to discuss.

    But I think the likes of Scooter-baby has proven that no one on here can trust having our e-mail given out. the last thing any of us needs is to have one of these low-life scum bags spamming us with their childish pranks or worse.

    Can you imagine what they would do if their moms left the house one day and didn’t take the computer with them? Man, they would go down into the basement, go onto the naughty sites that their dads claim not to go on and we would all be in trouble. They would probably try to blame us too once mommy found out, just so they wouldn’t have to get a spanking on their little po pos and go to bed without supper.

    I bet he can’t wait until he is old enough to sit at the big people table at Christmas and listen to the big people talk.Then, one day, he will get to shave, get to wear deodorant, get to drive…maybe even get to date. If only he knew what he will be dating. that must be difficult for him to be so cinfused. Must be where all that pent up rage comes from. I guess we should all be more tollerant for him until he is done with all his “experimentation” in the locker room at Jr. high.

    Don’t worry Scooter. By the time you get out of High School, you should have it all figured out. We’re pulling for you little man. grow up strong, one day, you’ll be a man too.

  48. #205471
    On December 29th, 2007 at 11:41 pm, MrArchieBunker said:

    Break out the bell bottoms and pachouli oil! These old meatheaded drama queens (your analysis was spot on Rick) basically want to relive their glory days when they brought a GOP President and the Pentagon to their knees. There’s no moonbat like an old moonbat.

  49. #205472
    On December 29th, 2007 at 11:44 pm, huggybear said:

    Didn’t Peggy Noonan sound the death knell for “BDS” a few months ago? At this point, it seems more like the ones who still support him are the ones who are deranged.

    He has betrayed conservatism and and tarnished it’s legacy. You should hate him for the same reason I hate the Clintons.

  50. #205475
    On December 30th, 2007 at 12:05 am, gollumclone said:

    Vermont’s own dem Attorney General said the petition drive is of very dubious legality. Hey mutant moonbats- how about a petition to support Jessica’s Law or to censure your lenient criminal asp-kissing judges?

  51. #205594
    On December 30th, 2007 at 7:48 am, sfcmac said:

    On December 29th, 2007 at 12:02 pm, lgm said:
    Is it wrong to hate any President, or just this one? Think about your feelings for Bill Clinton. Maybe he should be impeached for minor actions unrelated to his duties as President. Oh wait, he was.

    For the numerous FELONIES he commtted, he should be, along with algore and Janet Reno, under Leavenworth.

  52. #205596
    On December 30th, 2007 at 7:54 am, sfcmac said:

    On December 29th, 2007 at 10:11 pm, RetFireman said:
    O/T:

    Go to netdisaster.com

    type in the name of a web site you think needs to have your wrath brought down upon it, say Hill-Dawgs, Kos or DU’s. Choose the manner of your wrath then choose auto or mouse and HAVE FUN.

    Yes, my 8 year old told me about this. Don’t ask.

    I had fun nuking the DUmmies.

  53. #205616
    On December 30th, 2007 at 8:52 am, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    em>On December 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pm, katieanne said:
    Mr. Conservative Cat, one of the few ways that an individual can make a difference is by making financial choices such as not viewing movies by Hollywood traitors, avoiding areas such as San Francisco, places where they do not support the military, cities that are sanctuary cities, etc. One small stand for sure, but it does make me feel better.

    I’m sorry for you that things like that make you feel better. In a world with lots of grey areas I can’t appreciate that mindset.
    Per your suggestion, if i can get the word out I’ll be sure to tell struggling conservative farmers in Vermont that Katieanne from michellemalkin.com thinks their families should suffer because she sees everything in absolutes.

    Sorry, but I don’t buy your argument that conservatives in Vermont couldn’t fight back. If they wanted to be heard, they could be. You can make a difference here on MM.

    That’s exactly what I’m trying to do here but you don’t want to hear my views – I get the impression you think like many Dems; “free speech is great as long as you agree with me”. Kind of like when libs paint conservatives as intolerant, racist extremists. You know the type. Perhaps too well.

    You can change perceptions. Many people read this site. O’Reilly would be up there in a flash if conservatives organized.

    This is theone good idea expressed in this pile of vitriol you are putting forth as a reasonable post. It’s something to work with, and I think you’re right.

    There are plenty of outlets other than local rags to get opposing views from the state out. Also, if they couldn’t get their views out in the papers, take out an ad.

    Y

    ou clearly don’t know anything about this. It’s been tried, and the ads have been turned away. I thought everyone knew this. Learn the basics.

    Let me give YOU a heads up….don’t belittle others who sincerely respond in a negative way to the disgusting rot coming out of Vermont with your somewhat hostile sarcasm.

    This is extremely curious. Would you please quote me an example of this in my previous posts in this thread and describe how it qualifies 9there are other posts elsewhere,usually in response to people who struck first)? I’m interested in your take (I’m not talking about this post which is a response to your surprisingly vitriolic post). (Katieanne only, please, I have limited time for this board) I have a pretty good feeling that your response will start off with, “not in this thread but…” I cannot help but think additionally this is about another thread regarding sitting out the election of 08 and letting the democrats win out of some sense of misplaced conservative idealism. Am i right? Otherwise, your hostile post is bewildering. And please no “I’m not going to take the time to explain it” stuff. Please point to what you object to from me which qualifies as you have described it in my previous posts on this thread. This is a great opportunity for you to tear me apart if you’re so inclinded, so do it. Please explain succinctly.

  54. #205664
    On December 30th, 2007 at 10:28 am, katieanne said:

    I have no desire to tear you apart. I simply responded to the tone and rhetoric in your post to me. IMO, your first post to me was angry about a comment I had made that wasn’t even directed at you. I am not the only person at MM who has considered boycotting as a means to react to stupidity of the left yet it appears I am the only one you have chosen to attack. Apparently my views upset you. Too bad. Rail on.

    As I said before, take your anger issues out on the fanatics in Vermont, not me. They are the ones who have created this situation. And as I also stated, unless the conservatives in Vermont speak out, people will avoid the state. This started way back when O’Reilly was discussing the looney judges and trying to get Jessica’s law in Vermont. He asked why conservatives weren’t fighting back too. I am not alone in this observation. He offered his help. Sadly, the silence from conservatives in Vermont is deafening.

    I don’t waste my time going back and forth with people such as yourself. I disagree with your attitude and will not respond to you in the future. Find someone else to rant on. Is that succinct enough for you?

  55. #205725
    On December 30th, 2007 at 12:04 pm, pressto said:

    Some people really need to get a life and needs some counseling for this hate they seem to have for the President.

    The thing that really drove me from the Democratic party and turned me to more of leaning right was the hate that the party seems to embrace now from the fringe groups.

  56. #205731
    On December 30th, 2007 at 12:12 pm, katieanne said:

    It will be interesting to see how the Democratic candidates try to distance themselves from the hate groups that actually helped the candidates get where they are now. Those hate groups don’t play well with mainstream America. Despite differences of opinion, most Americans aren’t haters. I see next year as being a particularly vicious election.

  57. #205741
    On December 30th, 2007 at 12:24 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    Katieanne,

    You did exactly what I requested you not do, and a fair request it was: not to respond in generalities but to quote me and show me where I wronged you.

    Striking first and crying foul isn’t very conservative. Neither is letting loose another rant and then running away on the pretense of supeior thinking.

    If I wronged you I’ll apologize. Just show me where. Show the world conservatives are fair, Katieanne.

  58. #205791
    On December 30th, 2007 at 2:04 pm, katieanne said:

    Mr. CC, if you cannot understand my point of view from what I have already said, you never will. I do not have the time nor the inclination to endlessly debate an issue that will never be resolved. Let’s move on and agree to disagree.

    Happy New Year to you and yours and may God bless you all with health and happiness.

  59. #205804
    On December 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    I’m not on board at all with the first sentence of the first paragraph but I’m with you 110% on the second. God bless and all the best in the coming New Year.

  60. #205810
    On December 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    RetFireman said:
    Who the Hell woke the trolls up this morning anyway? Would someone go and wrangle those Billy Goats Gruff and put them back in the pen? Their “Trip Trap Trip Trapping” seems to have got these jokers all riled up. One of them has his panties all in a bunch over Michelle’s little Beret` joke

    Rick Moran said:
    If this doesn’t prove that the left is a bunch of drama queens, I don’t know what will.

    On-my-soap-box said:
    I am soooooo embarrassed for you lgm. Pull up your skirt your BDS is showing.

    This is why I love this site thanks to Rick and Michelle for letting me comment but you guy’s have to stop now I’m in trouble with my wife for interupting her movie “Your making to much noise” I turn and read another and LMAO and get the evil eye. LOL thank’s guy’s.

  61. #205966
    On December 30th, 2007 at 11:32 pm, jeanie said:

    Something similar is happening in NH. The liberal strongholds of Keene and Concord, Hanover(others?)seem to be coming into their own and I do not understand why much of the rest of the State is following along. Partly, here at least, the baby boomers and gen Xers seem to be the supporters of this “new age”. It isn’t just the people “from away”, it’s our own too. They don’t like the status quo apparently, but seem not to know that the alternatives they support are worse by a long way. Maybe it’s the property taxes? Maybe it’s the liberal tone our public schools teach? Maybe it’s just kismet? I wish I knew and I hope it goes away!!! It’s not that conservative voices aren’t speaking out, it’s that these groups just don’t want to hear.

  62. #206054
    On December 31st, 2007 at 9:15 am, mycroft69 said:

    For those who have expressed desires to move here but have changed their minds: please reconsider! Vermont was orginally conservative, as someone else in the comments has correctly observed. It only became leftist by people moving here and then taking control of the media. The only way to counter it is by a massive relocation of conservatives! Please come here and push the Marxist louts into oblivion!

  63. #206056
    On December 31st, 2007 at 9:34 am, max said:

    RF = the person i would most like to drink a beer with,

    Second that!

  64. #207081
    On January 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    On December 30th, 2007 at 11:32 pm, jeanie said:
    It’s not that conservative voices aren’t speaking out, it’s that these groups just don’t want to hear.

    BINGO!

    #153On December 31st, 2007 at 9:15 am, mycroft69 said:
    For those who have expressed desires to move here but have changed their minds: please reconsider! Vermont was orginally conservative, as someone else in the comments has correctly observed. It only became leftist by people moving here and then taking control of the media. The only way to counter it is by a massive relocation of conservatives! Please come here and push the Marxist louts into oblivion!

    Absolutely!

    2 great posts by people who know of what they speak!

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