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The racial hate crimes the Left doesn’t want to talk about, continued

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 31, 2007 10:30 AM

You’ve read the story here before: Innocent black residents of Los Angeles being targeted by violent Latino gangs. The race-hustling reverends have had nothing to say about it. But at least some in the press are paying more attention. The AP takes a look at F13’s racial “cleansing” campaign:

In a murderous quest aimed at “cleansing” their turf of snitches and rival gangsters, members of one of Los Angeles County’s most vicious Latino gangs sometimes killed people just because of their race, an investigation found.

There were even instances in which Florencia 13 leaders ordered killings of black gangsters and then, when the intended victim couldn’t be located, said “Well, shoot any black you see,” Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said.

“In certain cases some murders were just purely motivated on killing a black person,” Baca said.

Authorities say there were 20 murders among more than 80 shootings documented during the gang’s rampage in the hardscrabble Florence-Firestone neighborhood, exceptional even in an area where gang violence has been commonplace for decades. They don’t specify the time frame or how many of the killings were racial.

Los Angeles has struggled with gang violence for years, especially during the wars in the late 1980s and early ’90s between the Crips and the Bloods — both black gangs. Latino gangs have gained influence since then as the Hispanic population surged.

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  1. #1
    On December 31st, 2007 at 10:47 am, conservativesRus said:

    When are we going to get it through our national collective skull that there is no such thing as a race crime, a hate crime, etc. A crime is a crime is a crime. Doesn’t matter one iota if it’s blue eye on blue eye or size 6 shoe vs. size 7.

    OT - but has anybody heard the recent ads of the NY Times? “We support diversity”. Not “we support good journalism” or “we’re a good place to work”.

  2. #2
    On December 31st, 2007 at 10:48 am, ACHefty said:

    Silence of the leftist lambs….anyone surprised?

    [chirp, chirp, chirp]

  3. #3
    On December 31st, 2007 at 10:52 am, bloghooligan said:

    only whites can be racist. so this doesn’t fit the definition of a “racial hate” crime.

  4. #4
    On December 31st, 2007 at 10:58 am, gandolphxx said:

    Democraps think invaders are great, let them vote and destroy our culture - democraps take the black vote as a given so they can swoon over the invaders.

    The MSM thinks democrap liberals are the second coming or something like that hence you will never see this kind of betrayal in their pages.

    The news would be that racist whites are hurting the opportunities for the poor maligned invaders.

  5. #5
    On December 31st, 2007 at 10:59 am, John Ansell said:

    Thanks Michelle. I live in Torrance. CA. and the problem is far worse than being told. The L.A. times buries more stories than a dog does bones. They hardly do stories on Tortilla X Flats, 18th street gang and others just in this part of the town. We need to send these people (rats) packing, I’d I’m not talking about their bongs.

  6. #6
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:00 am, geminicontender said:

    Where’s the outrage. Where’s ACLU, NAACP, Pelosi, Boxer, La Raza…..donde esta? Lying hypocrite all of them. Doesn’t serve their agenda because white people aren’t figured into the mix.

  7. #7
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:01 am, coldfront said:

    The race-hustling reverends have had nothing to say about it.

    & they have nothing to say about Black African Slavery @ the hands of the muslims there! nothing to see here, move along…

  8. #8
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:01 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    These murders don’t fit the lame stream media’s template for racism (whites attacking any other person of color). Move along! No racism here.

  9. #9
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:02 am, katieanne said:

    Selective outrage from the left. No surprise. If it doesn’t fit their agenda, they just don’t care.

  10. #10
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:03 am, tim zank said:

    Where’s the outrage. Where’s ACLU, NAACP, Pelosi, Boxer, La Raza…..donde esta? Lying hypocrite all of them. Doesn’t serve their agenda because white people aren’t figured into the mix.

    Pelosi and company won’t touch this with a 10 foot pole. Waaaaay to muddy of water for HER to wade into.

    She’ll follow the lead of the MSM “nothing to see hear, move along”

  11. #11
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:05 am, DesertLover said:

    conservativesRus

    In most crimes I agree that there is no such thing as a race/hate crime … that a crime that occurs where the individuals involved happen to be of different racial and ethnic backgrounds does not in and of itself make it a race/hate crime.

    I think, however, that we do have to acknowledge that when established gangs are the source of the crimes that race motivated hatred can be an influence.

    These organized gangs are generally racially restricted as to their members, and are often in direct competition with one another over control of neighborhoods and streets.

    In these situations I believe that at least a portion of the problem becomes racially motivated. I say this because they reach a point where they are out to eliminate others based on their being of a particular race and not just the members of another rival gang.

  12. #12
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:12 am, beenthere said:

    I never thought I would see the day when the murder of innocent black people is a media yawn, but by the logic of Liberalism, that day has arrived.

    Then again, perhaps I am being unfair. Perhaps a liberal media person would grab me by the collar at this point and explain: “White boy — it’s people of color killing people of color. So it’s not a big deal. Got it, racist?”

    These incidents of urban warfare are a likely preview of what is to come. Along the way, I suspect the riot initiative will be taken over by people of Latino heritage as African-Americans (one hopes) move on. This kind of transition has happened before in the nation’s history.

    Note to white people: it’s still always okay to kill you.

  13. #13
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:14 am, gollumclone said:

    I see red when I hear local liberals lamenting fact that there aren’t enough blacks running things. “Obama as President will end the racial unrest. Not enough black senators” yada yada. Yes, let’s have racial quotas and arrest more whites or go along with that twerp Lani Guinier’s idea that blacks should have more votes per voter. Meaning a “black vote” would count as 5 or 10 votes each to ensure we make up for past injustices. Clinton wanted that cretin on US Supreme Court. Imagine Hillary making USSC appointments? Maybe the first black Pres. would get a lifetime position in which to pontificate?
    I know that not that not that far from me are a number of vicious latino gangs, many really evil, murderous scum from El Salvador, here illegally of course. Lock them up and throw away the key. Let them bust rocks in the hot sun with chain gangs and such. Maybe England had the right idea or the French with Devil’s Island as seen in Papillon?
    Really bugs me that criminal “juvies” can slaughter people at whim and if ever caught and sentenced will eventually be “rehabbed” and released to commit crimes again and again.
    Even Rev. Jesse Jackson said he felt safer seeing white boys coming down the street vs. blacks who have a propensity for crime.

  14. #14
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:24 am, Ralph Gizzip said:

    With Global Warming happening Greenland should be habitable. Let’s ship all the criminals there and turn them loose. Those that make it, make it. Those that don’t, don’t. Either way we rid the country of a violent criminal element.

  15. #15
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:24 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

    Maybe we’ll all get lucky and the Crips, Bloods, F13, TXF, 18th St., and all the rest will just kill each other off.

    Save the government (see: taxpayer)the money that would have been spent incarcerating them, defending them, paying for their appeals, lawsuits, etc.

    Wishful thinking…

    Unfortunately, they never seem to aim straight and wind up taking innocent lives with them in their shooting orgies.

  16. #16
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:32 am, conservativesRus said:

    Desert…#11. I agree - however, I don’t care what the motivation is/was. It’s still a crime and deserves to be treated accordingly.

    I should be no more outraged by a “racial” killing than any other killing. The victim is equally dead.
    If the intent was to kill, then regardless of “why”, the perpetrator IS guilty of murder (legal system notwithstanding).

  17. #17
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:34 am, Lars said:

    We need a Charles Bronson character to take a few late night walks.

  18. #18
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:35 am, DesertLover said:

    conservativesRus

    No argument about a crime is a crime … just pointing out that in the gang related crimes there can be an underlying racial motivation … it is still a crime that needs to be addressed and the perpetrators must be brought to justice.

  19. #19
    On December 31st, 2007 at 11:41 am, brooklyn red said:

    #15, a lot of the new breed of gang members actually have military training courtesy of the Mexican government & they can shoot pretty good. (again, our tax dollars at work)

    Maybe we need to start firearms training in our public schools to even the playing field a bit…

    or then again, we could just close the borders.

  20. #20
    On December 31st, 2007 at 12:03 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    No whites involved. Move along.

  21. #21
    On December 31st, 2007 at 12:19 pm, greenfairie said:

    Meanwhile in Baltimore, one of the teenage thugs who beat the white woman on a bus filed charges against her victim! The poor victim is going to be put on trial!

  22. #22
    On December 31st, 2007 at 12:24 pm, Boomer said:

    I guarantee if this was the work of a white gang this would be splashed all over by the MSM 24/7/365. It does not meet their template of a hate crime (which any violent crime really is anyway). When stationed in Southern California back in the 90s I was exposed to the nightly news broadcasts of running gun battles by these can’t shoot straight gangs. It seemed the only ones every getting shot was some poor innocent rarely ever associated with a gang.

    Gang infested areas throughout the country would be a great place to send our troops for a little house to house training clearing this filth from our streets. Anyone that pledges their loyalty to a gang should be stripped of their citizenship (if they are here legally) and then deported to a country of my choice. I would love to see how they get along in the “Magic Kingdom” of Saudi Arabia, but I am a cruel SOB. I would love to do the same to any and all members of the ACLU and anyone else that aids and abets this danger to public safety too.

  23. #23
    On December 31st, 2007 at 12:39 pm, zorro said:

    The national press, California’s elected officials and the racist reverends are all negligent. Ignoring these stories leads to inaction and status quo. More innocents are murdered because there’s no money in stopping the carnage.

    Thank God for the Second Amendment.

  24. #24
    On December 31st, 2007 at 12:43 pm, mnmike said:

    Is it therefore a none story when blacks or hispanic militants beat down whitey?

  25. #25
    On December 31st, 2007 at 1:11 pm, Rusty said:

    I never thought I would see the day when the murder of innocent black people is a media yawn

    That day has been here for a long time. I live in a majority black city and any black person that’s murdered gets a mention on page B-2 of the Post.

    But when a white person is killed in Georgetown by four black men, it’s on the front page of the Post and forces the city to declare a “crime emergency.”

    The fact of the matter is that unless white people are involved (either as attackers or victims), people don’t care. It’s a total shame.

    Is it therefore a none story when blacks or hispanic militants beat down whitey?

    Note to white people: it’s still always okay to kill you.

    The latter quote gets points for being especially weird and paranoid, but, no. It’s debatable that whites as victims get less play than whites as attackers, but both get way more press than no whites involved at all.

  26. #26
    On December 31st, 2007 at 1:27 pm, blues said:

    C Rus:100% right.Crime is crime no matter who perpetrates it against whom,or why.The race baiters don’t care about the people they claim to be defending.If they did they would assert that we(the fair-skinned people of European decent)are not the enemy,and are not the cause of racial prejudice.It is very easy to direct your anger at imaginary enemies,rather than real ones,because the real ones hit back.It is well past the time when we stop looking for “root causes “of abhorant behaviour and get back to dealing with it.It really doesn’t matter why someone commits a heinous act,what matters is the fact that the person committed the act.Acceptance of negative behaviour for the sake of “cultural diversity”does nothing but destroy the existing culture.In other words-if these people want to live like rabid animals,they should be treated as such.

  27. #27
    On December 31st, 2007 at 1:28 pm, nbarry said:

    I would pay the Russians to warehouse these gangsters in Siberian gulags.

  28. #28
    On December 31st, 2007 at 2:05 pm, ArmoredCAV said:

    Boomer

    I love your idea. Got to admit I have thought of it myself before, but it would be nice. It would be good sustainment training in order to prep for deployments. When we breached the front door, they would have no clue what hit them.

  29. #29
    On December 31st, 2007 at 2:07 pm, deepdiver said:

    The liberals and democrat party have long histories of destroying blacks in this country and blocking their progress at every turn. That they would not talk about this is not surprising. Essentially it would be a case of liberals in the MSM saying, “Ok, here is how one set of liberal policies we touted and supported didn’t work and ran headlong into another set of liberal policies that didn’t work that we supported and touted, leading to the deaths of a lot of people we have convinced to vote for liberals by lying to them for nearly 50 years as to which party actually defends their rights and wants them to be equal in the same way that Martin Luther King, Jr. wanted them to be equal.” Yeah, the MSM has many reasons to stay clear of this story.

    Or put another way: The MSM isn’t reporting this as they haven’t yet found a way to lie and tell people this is the Republican’s fault.

  30. #30
    On December 31st, 2007 at 3:03 pm, Republican (By Default) said:

    Now that football season is almost over, maybe someone should start an “It’s Whitey’s Fault” pool. To win you have to pick the first race hustler (Jesse, Al, etc.) blames whitey for these crimes and which week he does it.

  31. #31
    On December 31st, 2007 at 4:18 pm, ProudGulfWarVet65 said:

    Slightly off topic, from the NY Slimes:

    Even by the low standards of presidential campaigns, the issue of immigration has been badly served in the 2008 race. Candidates — and by this we mean the Republicans, mostly — have been striking poses and offering prescriptions that sound tough but will solve nothing. They have distorted or disowned their pasts and attacked one another ferociously, but over appearances, not ideas — over who can claim to be the authentic scourge of illegal immigrants, and who is the Lou-Dobbs-Come-Lately.

    These people are clueless.

  32. #32
    On December 31st, 2007 at 6:56 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    greenfaire-
    can you provide a link for it? If its true, then its just a matter of time before the Jena 6 file charges against Justin Barker.

    GSP

  33. #33
    On December 31st, 2007 at 7:24 pm, Mookie said:
  34. #34
    On January 1st, 2008 at 2:44 am, Prime Director said:

    It is well past the time when we stop looking for “root causes “of abhorant behaviour and get back to dealing with it.

    I couldn’t disagree more. Its ALWAYS to look at root causes. How do we ever expect to avoid negative social outcomes if we don’t take the time to consider what causes them?

    Look at 9/11. I mean, everyone with a attrophied brain and a bleeding heart knows that the root cause of terrorism is American imperialism; likewise, the cause of black on white crime is white racism. So whenever something bad happens to someone, you have to look close and find a way to blame the supossed victim, who probably brought it upon himself. To do any less is to turn your back on the whole concept of social justice.

    So we need to be brave enough to ask ourselves: what did the black community do to make the latinos hate them so much? How is the black community responsible for driving these poor latinos to murder them? How can the black community atone for getting in the way of the latinos’ bullets?

    I think a good first step would be for the black community to apologize to the latinos and promise to stop doing whatever it is that fills the latinos with righteous anger and murderous rage.

    Only then can the healing begin.

  35. #35
    On January 1st, 2008 at 3:08 am, Army said:

    On December 31st, 2007 at 2:05 pm, ArmoredCAV said:

    Boomer

    I love your idea. Got to admit I have thought of it myself before, but it would be nice. It would be good sustainment training in order to prep for deployments. When we breached the front door, they would have no clue what hit them.
    Lordy I’ve always wanted to det-cord a door. Could have used some of this additional train-up prior to getting here :)

  36. #36
    On January 1st, 2008 at 3:09 am, Army said:

    Oh poop, missed the quote tags! I suck at blogging!!

  37. #37
    On January 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 am, infidel4life said:

    The race-hustling reverends have had nothing to say about it.

    Silence of the leftist lambs….anyone surprised?

    [chirp, chirp, chirp]

    They wan’t blacks to remain politically ignorant. If and when the majority of black voters become aware of how open borders policy is damaging the black community, they might just (*gasp!*) start voting conservative.

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