The search for Yaser Abdel Said
The manhunt continues for the father suspected of murdering his two teenage daughters in Texas. His son called on the man to surrender–and he denies that the suspected honor killings have anything to do with religion:
The brother of two teenage girls who police believe were killed by their father this week pleaded Thursday night for his dad to surrender to authorities.
“I never thought this would happen,” said Islam Said, 19. “Tell him to turn himself in.”
Yaser Abdel Said, a 50-year-old cabdriver, is being sought in the deaths of Amina Yaser Said, 18, and Sarah Yaser Said, 17. The Lewisville High School students were found shot to death in a taxi at an Irving hotel Tuesday night.
Islam Said and his mother appeared at a candlelight vigil in honor of the girls outside the high school Thursday night. Dozens of students and teachers gathered around pink posters decorated with pictures of the smiling sisters and signed with messages for the girls, described as well-liked students who played tennis and soccer and excelled in Advanced Placement courses.
Mr. Said also disputed widespread rumors and media reports that his Muslim father’s religion may have been part of the motive.
“It’s not religion,” he said, declining to speak in detail about a possible motive. “It’s something else. Religion has nothing to do with it.”
Federal officials are part of the manhunt, but there are no leads and no progress. Said may have left the country.
I’ll leave you with this:
Zohair Zaidi, a close friend of Sarah’s, said she told him her father had recently threatened to harm Amina when he discovered she had a boyfriend.
“Her dad has always been oppressive with her and her sister,” said Mr. Zaidi, 18.
“She said that one day when she came home – the day he found out about Amina’s boyfriend – he told Sarah, ‘I’m going to put a bullet through Amina’s head, and you better get used to her because she’s not going to be around much longer.’ ”
One of the sisters called 911 from a cellphone around 7:30 p.m. Tuesday. She said she was dying, according to an Irving police report. Police traced the call to O’Connor Road and Riverside Drive, where police initially did not find the caller.
An hour later, police received another call about two unconscious females in a taxi at a service entrance of the Omni Mandalay Hotel. Police located the vehicle and found the sisters, who died of multiple gunshot wounds.
“The victims’ mother provided information that pointed to the victims’ father as the suspect,” the Irving police report said.
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faux news alert:
Yaser Abdel Said, the father suspected of murdering his two teenage daughters in Texas was recently spotted riding the ferry in Seattle.
Seattle P-I reports he is planning to turn himself in as soon as anti-muslim sentiments diminish.
Naw, he has food stashed everywhere!
Update: $10,000 Reward offered
Per DallasNews.com
Sorry. The semi-tyrannical, benevolent-dictatorial father of 13 in me came out for a few minutes. Sometimes, we all need to just go to our corners and relax for a short spell.
My apologies, especially, to Michelle, for usurping “parental” authority on her site. Michelle, if you forgive me, please say so.
Now, anyone who is able to be nice can come out of their rooms and enjoy the weekend. (Oops. Dad’s taking over again!)
Thanks for the link atxcowgirl. Schepp’s dairy is really great about offering
rewards. I just wish there wasn’t a reason to do so.
Raisedright. I do not remember the case or the judge’s name. I just remember
that we were all outraged about the judge’s remarks and frankly, I was just
becoming aware of nambla, etc at the time and wondered if he was possibly a
member. It didn’t stay in the public eye for long and I was not on line, nor did
I work with computers as yet, so, I didn’t keep up with it as I should have and
that is my shortcoming.
Granite #87, you may be onto something here — though I’ll defend myself by saying I was taught that Muslims had contributed to many things in public school. I do know there were some decent things built by the Moors, the Alhambra for example. And Muslims are credited with the invention of Algebra. I had not considered before that maybe they co-opted much of what they take credit for.
In the future I’ll add a disclaimer — This Commenter is a product of Public Education. (In Florida)
Of course it wasnt religion.
Maybe he was preventing the daughters from exposing the father and brother for sexually molestating them, or maybe he was just mugging his own daughters, or maybe his gun accidentally weant off multiple times and just happened to hit the 2 girls.
CAIR is full of scum. The 9-11 Mooselimb death squads are scum. Those honor murdering Mooselimbs, and those who support them are scum. Get the bloddy scum out of this country.
Go with them Rusty. I am confident you will have freedom of speech under the rule of scum, I mean moon god worship, I mean Satan worship. You get the picture.
ROPMA
Check out this article. It’s written by a Yemeni columnist and justifies violence by fathers and husbands against wives, daughters and sisters. It actually ridicules the idea of women going to the police and reporting violence against the. And the justification is the Quran and to “preserve the morals and principles with which Islam has honored us.”
http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=1117&p=community&a=6
Pretty appropriate given this topic. I got it from http://www.thereligionofpeace.com. Excellent site.
As has been already noted on here, if you have a problem with the Western lifestyle, why the frick do you come to live here?
I long for the days when I had no idea what Islam was.
The Omni where they found the girl’s bodies is probably less than 10 miles from DFW airport. That, and the fact that the feds are involved would lead me to believe he fled the State if not the country.
At this point, it sounds like the father planned this in advance. And that it was indeed an honor killing.
In Texas, that adds up to premeditated murder. I hope they catch the bastard and bring him back here for a trial.
Don’t hold back, Letherneck, tell us how you really feel.
As to what Rusty brought up earlier, the actions and words of groups like CAIR happen to add fuel to the thoughts of some of us on this site about the probable complicity of the son. We’ve seen them acting as apologists for terrible actions in the past, so if the son turns out to be scum, it wouldn’t be out of character.
That link is powerful Matty. I am a little confused as to why, when a man leaves
the marital bed, the wife gets a beating. Perhaps I need to go back and reread
that paragraph. I do know the author does not like our society and it does,
over and over, beg the question…what the hades are they doing leaving the
middle east if they want to continue living the same way they lived there?
Anyone with half a brain knows that young people are going to gravitate toward
their peers. I do know they dug up a female teenager in Dallas that goes through life all covered up and she came across as pious to the point of entering the church had she been Catholic. This is the unusual in teenagers,
not the usual.
I remember a reporter, I think, that tells of being in Palestine and having a
rather young teenager holding him at gunpoint. The kid then verbally
assails him with all that is wrong with the US. At the end of his harangue, the boy says, and when I get my visa I’m going to Michigan to study to be a
dentist. Pretty well sums the entire situation up. I have a friend that told me
her husband had been married three times to American women but their
marriage is the only one he considers lawful because they are both Muslims
and married through the Mosque. I asked her once if he ever beat her and
she said he had “when I needed it.” She seemed shocked that I was shocked
and told me not to worry about it because she no longer gave him reason to
beat her. I asked if he had beaten their daughter, who was 10 at the time and she said no, he was too crazy about her and besides, she told him she
would go to the police if he ever hit their daughter. In other words, he could
hit her but not the child.
#106 On January 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, SHoward said:
“…a product of Public Education.”
Hehe…no sweat, SHoward; I’m a public school alum and high school Harry myself – HS 1970; state university 1974…a few years after the goofy ideas had seeped into educationists’ mindsets, and before they’d had a chance to destroy public education.
I got a great education;
I was never impressed by preppies;
I was never impressed by Ivy League classmates in medical school.
Not saying that I was better prepared than they were; but, I am saying that they were in no way better prepared than I was.
Such a shame about public education today….
But, we’re a bit OT.
Yes, any bragging that present-day Egyptians might do about the Pyramids, or the Sphinx, or Luxor; or that present-day Turks might do about the archaeological digging at the site of ancient Troy; would be no different than Hitler’s bragging about the Eiffel Tower in 1940; nor than Lenin’s bragging about Tschaicovsky’s music in 1917.
Thanks, Rose. I’ve seen the topic of how husbands should discipline their wives discussed on several al-Jazeera shows translated by MEMRI (I think I’ve seen them at LGF). As I understand, the first steps of a husband trying to discipline his wife is to ignore her and leave the marital bed. How that’s a punishment for her, I’m not sure.
But after that, if she continues to screw up (insert your own definition of “screw up”) then he can move to “light” beatings.
I don’t care to follow a god that allows you to beat (or, you know, shoot to death )someone you supposedly love. I prefer a God who expects you to love and honor the person who helps you weather the trials of life. But what do I know?
I agree, Matty. I always thought that when you married, you became
partners and worked together. I can state that if my husband ever
decided that I deserved a good beating, whether the stick was as big
around as his thumb or not, he would not get out of the experience
unscathed. If nothing else, he would be in police custody which the
author of the article seems to find totally unnecessary or unsatisfactory.
You’ll find him in a small village in Egypt, receiving praise from the local cleric of the “religion of peace”. But, religion had nothing to do with it.
#115 On January 4th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, TXRose said:
I agree, Matty. I always thought that when you married, you became
partners and worked together. I can state that if my husband ever
decided that I deserved a good beating, whether the stick was as big
around as his thumb or not, he would not get out of the experience
unscathed. If nothing else, he would be in police custody which the
author of the article seems to find totally unnecessary or unsatisfactory.
Amen to that, TXRose.
I can tell you that, if I had ever raised a hand to my wife (now at 30+ years): never mind my father in-law, who would have clobbered me; but MY father would have kicked the living hell out of me.
He got help, I’ll bet. Likely another cab driving buddy got him to DFW in time for his flight to the ME.
Now I hear the Mother and the son are both in hiding. There may have been
threats made to him as well as Mom, and both daughters. This man may be
even more seriously deranged than it originally seemed he was. I wouldn’t put it
past him to have gotten help from another taxi driver because in the middle east,
taxi drivers often aid in honor killings.
You know, it’s not as if we don’t already have too many killings in this country, now they have to bring this sick @#$% here.
Knowing what we do about this man and the ROP, he’d probably enjoy that.
There.
The Omni may have shuttles to the airport, he may have hopped on one of those. If so there would be video. I think the Dallas police would know what to do with video as opposed to say – Columbia University.
I don’t like commenting on these murders which I am sure will be happening with increasing frequency as the “footprint” of Islam grows everr larger in America. The stories are just too depressing. But here is my take: not too long ago I read one of Robert Spencer’s pieces that stated honor killings are not mentioned in the Koran — one way or another. The implication was that honor killings were just one of those cultural things that was picked up at the time, like slavery, and that no one dared question, at least if they wanted to live, as Islam rapidly and violently grew from the 7th century onward.
The problem is that Islam is more than a religion — it is a religious and cultural and political program that is sold as encompassing every aspect of the believer’s thinking and actions. He need go nowhere else. There is the Koran and there are the supplementary works and traditions and that is all you will ever need in your life.
Now truly moderate, peaceful Muslims could attack honor killings without being disrespectful to the Koran. However, they would, as I am sure they are aware, come into conflict with other aspects of Islam. The risk is real but it has to be taken. Let’s face it: Islam is brutal towards women and children, and even if there are no verses in the Koran dealing with honor killings, there are plenty of others that would easily be interpreted as implying that such would not be reasonable extension.
It’s a terrible situation and I hope there are in fact moderate, peaceful Muslims who would work with the West to put an end to this barbarism. But as the power of Islam grows, one is ill-advised to hold one’s breath in anticipation.
Don’t let anyone kid you, but most moderate Muslims are scared to death to
speak out because they know just what could happen to them if more
fanatical Muslims turn against them. They know that they and their entire
families could be wiped out. I doubt if we will ever get very many to stand
against radical Islam..even here in the US.
Well, I am very late to this discussion. Very busy day but I must say AJ is right and Rusty should catch a flight to the Kingdom and spout his vile there. I’ve had it with this Religion of Peace. There are no moderate muslsims that I have ever seen.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Stop all muslim immigration, find the ones that are overstaying their visas and send them packing. We don’t need these scumbags here at all.
Just my opinion which I believe I am entitled to express at least until the Shari’a law is imposed. Right???
In my eyes the Religion of Pieces has an awful lot of problems and I would really love to see a 10-year moratorium on any more Muslims immigrating, or getting F, H or L visas – but these “honor killings” are a sad part of culture in the parts of the world where Islam is prevalent.
Wasn’t there recently a case in California where an East Indian killed his daughter because she married below her caste?
We need to pick our battlegrounds carefully folks.
It was either CA or Chicago. He killed her, her husband and their child.
I don’t know if that is an honor killing. It could be just one p@#$%d off
father.
We do need to pick our battles and battlegrounds carefully, but wherever
they are, they will be bloody.
Those who want to defend Muslims would want to live under Shari law. Remember Rusty I imagine the Muslims would outlaw posting comments here if we had Muslim law. I am only waiting for the partakers of that religion to start bombing public places and then the liberals well defend their motives for doing that. I will not be surprized and I will not submit.
But I don’t think any real change will come until these “moderates” rise up and protest. Problem in my mind is that I wonder how many moderates actually do disagree or if indeed there are any moderates. One read comments on this all over the world from Muslims and they make excuses for all kinds of beastly behavior from other Muslims.
I have to strongly disagree with Rusty and don’t understand why he railed on AJ as he did, especially since AJ’s views are held by most here.
Yasser Arrafat was not a terrorist he was just misunderstood.
(in english)
Osama Bin Laden is not a terrorist, He just want’s to give us a little love tap.(with a car bomb)
Saddam Hussien was not a brutal dictator, He was just working for world peace.(thru it’s destruction)
Give me a break, the religion of Satin has reared it’s ugly head once again, If you can’t realize this and give a low life and his son covering his father’s track’s the benefit of the doubt then you need to join up with them. The only information I need is two smart,beautiful girl’s assimilating to America murdered by there radical Muslim father and the son that hold’s his allegance to his father and not his sister’s. I would’nt doubt it if he drove his father to the airport. You can put what ever label you want on them, Silky Soft Muslim’s, Mellow Muslim’s, their is no difference they all read from the Koran the book of vile, death and destruction. Peice loving? yes they will love us only if we are all in piece’s.
I do know moderates. Unfortunately, they know radicals and know how radicals
react. As one friend said, ” I can’t have my children at the mercy of these people.”
I also suspect her husband is more radical than I have been allowed to see because
she wants to become a citizen and he won’t let her. He is a naturalized citizen
and votes but she cannot become a citizen and he says that if she goes against
him he will take the children and go back to Egypt and give them to his parents.
We don’t know what goes on in their households. We don’t have any idea what goes on in their Mosques. In other words, we have allowed them to come here and
live secret lives right in the middle of us.
She married Yaser Said when she was 15 and had tried to leave him several
times over the years but was afraid of him. The son said he wanted his
father to turn himself in because he has “really messed up the family.” This
will be on America’s Most Wanted tomorrow night.
TXRose I have great respect for your opinion and you may think you know them but the fact is if it came between you and their religion they would throw the last stone that would kill you. I know several converted Muslim’s to Christianity and all of them where raised from child hood in Muslim countries, came to the U.S. have seen the light of Jesus and who he really was (not just a prophet but the Son of God)and converted from this vile religion, I believe them when they tell me there is no difference, Islam, no matter what you call it, is evil and not of the Christian God. Their word’s not mine.
I don’t have any illusions, Blind_Mule. I would never put mine or my family’s
safety in their hands and I have quite a few converted friends (mostly Lebanese) who would rather they were all deported. I am just saying that
there are some who are not as radical as others. It may be that this is like
being a little bit psychotic….I do think that a couple of the women I know
would like to live differently but they were raised to obey men and won’t
divorce because I have a feeling there would be more honor killings if they
did. It is a vile way of life and my husband has always said that the next
world war will be in the middle east.
Now Britney’s lost her kids, again, and she’s on lockdown for the next 72 hours in the hospital.
No need to watch cable news since that pretty much sums up what you’ll be seeing for the next 3 days.
Religion had nothing to do with it,since he was not a devout Muslem.
Perhaps he did not look into his Koran and pray to Allah 5 times a day to give him the guidance to murder his children.
It probably was insanity–insanity brought on by indoctrination into a death cult,devout or not.
BTW-Islam is not a religion,it is a political entity,so religion could not have anything to do with it.Iguess what I’m really saying is -any one who accepts the precepts of Islam is already f***ing crazy.
trinitytim, what do you propose doing, if anything, about Muslims who are US citizens?
The latest from the Dallas News:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/010608dnmetfunerals.216ceab.html
Some observations:
The article more or less confirms that they mother fled the home with the girls on Christmas Eve because the father had threatened to kill the girls over who they were dating;
The differences reported in the eulogies is astounding. The Christian service talks of life and good. The Islamic service says that all things die, and that parents need to work to keep families together. In other words, s–t happens, and it is probably the mother’s fault for breaking up the household.
The silence from the Muslim community. Ironic that a small dairy here has put up a $10,000 reward and no Muslim group has contributed a dime.