Impeachment Watch: George McGovern, ACLU-Florida, and Viggo Mortensen bang the BDS drum

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 6, 2008 04:20 PM

The grandfather of all moonbats, George McGovern, dumps every last liberal grievance into the crockpot and produces an impeachment stew for the Washington Post. His BDS has been on slow cook for eight years–after which, he tells us, he has “belatedly and painfully concluded that the only honorable course for me is to urge the impeachment of the president and the vice president.” To justify impeachment, McGovern cites the usual litany of complaints about Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, and counterterrorism surveillance–as well as leaning on the wisdom of that great constitutional scholar, CNN blowhard Jack Cafferty, on Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina. So behind the curve is McGovern that he’s still using debunked Iraq war casualty figures by the Soros-funded propaganda machininsts at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health (see Carl Cannon and Neil Munro’s thorough dissection of the discredited study in the National Journal).

I’ve been chronicling the growing impeachment mob over the past few months. It’s reaching a crescendo. Joining McGovern, Denny K, Rep. Bob Wexler, the After Downing Street bunch, several city councils, Vermont activists, and the impeachment playwrights are ACLU chapters in Florida and Southern California:

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Florida has followed the lead of the ACLU of Central Florida, the ACLU of Monroe County Florida, and the ACLU of the Treasure Coast (Florida), all of which followed the lead of the ACLU of Southern California in backing impeachment and calling for the National ACLU to do the same.

The ACLU was a prominent supporter of Richard Nixon’s impeachment. In 2006 an ACLU panel argued for impeachment. In recent years, the national ACLU has lobbied against numerous offenses that appear quintessentially impeachable, but refused , despite intense lobbying by its members and others, to back impeachment. The national ACLU recently announced a new motto that many impeachment advocates view as a wish for the impossible (a reference to the current presidential administration): “One More Year, No More Damage.”

Richard W. Spisak Jr. of the ACLU of Florida reported that the state chapter met in Fort Myers at 1:30 p.m. on Saturday and passed a motion in support of impeachment hearings for George Bush and Richard Cheney. The motion calls on the National ACLU to urge hearings in the Judiciary Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives. Florida Congressman Robert Wexler, a member of that committee, has recently been leading a push for hearings to begin. Florida citizens have been pushing for impeachment for a long time.

Also on board: Lord of the Rings star and Kucinich booster Viggo Mortensen!

An Impeachment Town Hall Meeting sponsored by Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) will be held in Manchester New Hampshire this evening with Lord of the Rings Star Viggo Mortensen present. A discussion afterwards will feature panelists that will participate in a Forum on the Separation and Balance of Powers with Congressman and Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich, AfterDowningStreet, Democrats.com, PDA, ImpeachCheney.org activist David Swanson, John Nichols from The Nation magazine, and Mortensen. Online participants can watch the panelists and email questions at http://www.kucinichtv.com from 8:30 to 10:30 p.m ET

Acclaimed actor Viggo Mortensen (Eastern Promises, Lord of the Rings, Hidalgo) already a staunch supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, will be campaigning with the candidate today in New Hampshire. Mortensen will be present for a $50 fundraiser dinner for Kucinich this evening at Piccola Italia located at 815 Elm Street in Manchester, New Hampshire 03101, Phone 603-606-5100 from 5:30 – 7:00pm.

Retiring Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson made impeachment his swan song this weekend:

Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson used his last full day in office to submit a letter that calls on the House Judiciary Committee to investigate the Bush administration for abuses of power.

The letter was signed by 18 political and cultural figures. It asks House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers of Michigan to hold hearings on alleged violations of the law under President Bush.

The letter says those violations include kidnapping and torture, warrantless wiretapping, a war of aggression against Iraq and disseminating false propaganda to deceive the American people.

Mayor Anderson has called for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney at protests in Utah’s capital and the nation’s capital.

The nutroots will be putting pressure on leading Dems–and Democrat candidates–to join them in swinging the impeachment noose.

Watch Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama squirm.

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  1. #210509
    On January 6th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    Aragorn has betrayed Gondor.

  2. #210510
    On January 6th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, magicarb said:

    “The nutroots will be putting pressure on leading Dems–and Democrat candidates–to join them in swinging the impeachment noose.”

    Maybe McGovern hung the one at Columbia.

  3. #210511
    On January 6th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, bloghooligan said:

    do these people have any sense of pride? it’s one thing to be a renegade, it’s another to just look damn silly. McGovern’s day came and went…but, oh, that’s right…the liberals agenda is still back in the 60’s.

  4. #210513
    On January 6th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, Wes S. said:

    Acclaimed actor Viggo Mortensen (Eastern Promises, Lord of the Rings, Hidalgo) already a staunch supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich…

    So Aragorn turns out to be Grima Wormtongue in disguise? Crap.

  5. #210517
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, graysonret said:

    Yes, Aragon (Viggo) needs to remain in Middle Earth. George McGovern? He’s been a nobody since his disaster running for President. Some people are actually considering him worthwhile to listen to, these days? Take your aricept, George, and a swig of Geritol, and quietly relax and go fishing.

  6. #210518
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, DougT said:

    I’m still reeling about (and I’m sure you’ve covered many times) the notion that Dems want to restore and defend the Constitution.

    The casuistrimeter just pegged the needle and will have to be recalibrated.

    Oh, King Elessar, how far Men have fallen.

  7. #210523
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    The war is going badly for them. Wholesale illegal immigration becoming law has been slowed temporarily. The liberal Democrat congress is hapless and impotent(I like that word).They need some way to vent their frustration. Let them waste their time and money.

  8. #210525
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Yo, our 40 years in da wilderness is about over… till then can’t we live free of Mc(not)Govern…

    Que Jimmy Ca-tah in 3…2…1…

  9. #210531
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, Fasternu 426 said:

    Oh yeeaaaay! Another clueless actor thinks he’s enlightened enough to educate us. His inflated sense of self overpowers any logic that may or may not be present. So, when we are again attacked by islamofascists, what does the good actor think our response should be? Call an actor?

    Why do I believe actors are so goofy?
    They, nearly all, live a lie. Pretending to be people that are far greater than they could ever be. They live a fantasy where their enormous egos are assuaged by clinging onto things that make them appear to be intellectual or charitable. It does not fill the void left by them not being able to live up to the characters they portray. They pretend to be “above” things like Patriotism, God, Country. They all too often are fueled by their lack of real self and drown in their delusions and drugs, alcohol, casual relationships, and absurd politics. The world would be just fine without their “craft”. BTW, just how many awards shows do they need anyway?

    I pity them.

  10. #210534
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, SHoward said:

    I’d like to add just a little to your analysis, Fasternu.

    Most Hollywierd types do live a lie. In movies and fiction TV they can create whatever circumstances they wish. In fiction, all the problems in the world can be solved in 44 minutes.

    The problem with them is in the real world, things are a tad more complex. A feature length movie won’t quite fix 8th century attitudes, for example. Neither can it resolve conflicts between real world military powers.

    In the movies they can do whatever they want, but out here they can’t. That is why they fail to understand much in the real world.

  11. #210539
    On January 6th, 2008 at 5:55 pm, gollumclone said:

    Nah, the new revisionist conventional wisdom is that the patriotic dems, by winning both Houses in 2006, forced the neocons to change course in Iraq. If the media beats the drum for it, it must be so. The White House just wants to get along and likely will make little effort to correct the moonbat BS.
    Why don’t Cheney and Bush just resign and let Pelosi be first lady Prez? That way we can all see how incompetent and foolish she really is. Maybe she could appoint the most cretinous Wexler as VP.

  12. #210540
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    So, why is the ACLU not representing the President and VP? Seems that these Americans are under attack?

    Oh, silly me, politics before reason.

    I’ll go take my blinders off now.

  13. #210543
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:08 pm, SHoward said:

    DougT, the dems aren’t usually in too big of a hurry to restore and protect the Second Ammendment, why should we believe they really want to protect any others?

    You know very well that if Slick or the Pine tree were in office, the steps taken to fight terror would be “Necessary and Important for the Public Good.”

  14. #210546
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:15 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Actors should stick to acting. Mortensen should know that the Scourging of the Shire is a walk in the park compared to what terrorists would do to America – and what Islam has done to the environment in its strongest holds (think pollution and destruction).

    I believe actors are entitled to their opinion, but just because they get to make movies it does not make their opinions or their ideas any more influential or important than my own.

  15. #210552
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:21 pm, SHoward said:

    This is a bit OT, but I just realized an important corrollary to this business about actors thinking they can snap thier fingers and make things right in the real world.

    In the energy debate, we are constantly deluged with statements that indicate if we really think hard enough, we can magically conjure alternate energy sources to oil, coal and natural gas. I believe this, too, comes from living in a world of fiction.

    We have many great science fiction stories in TV and movies. I am a fan, and somewhat of a serious critic of science fiction. As a watcher all my life, I recall seeing many instances of energy being developed safely and cheaply. This involves things like diLithium crystals and naqueda reactors. The problem with these things is that they don’t actually exist.

    At present, we are decades away from useful Hydrogen power in transportation. (I work in the technical side of the car business. Challenge me if you wish.) We also have only one good viable alternate to stationary power, and since The China Syndrome, we havn’t been allowed by the leftists to use it.

    The left keeps saying how easy it would be to switch to alternate energy sources, but they say this after watching re-runs of Star Trek. We aren’t anywhere near. They live in fiction, and they think fiction has the answers to all the worlds problems.

    This rant may have steered away a bit, but I believe it is very relavent tomy previous posts about actors and the real world.

    Thanks for putting up with me.

  16. #210557
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm, JohnnyDilznik said:

    How about we impeach on the failure to execute the oath of office. I think an impeachment based solely on the illegal immigration debacle is something I could support.

  17. #210561
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, Boomer said:

    Why do all the people in Hollyweird think they can do so much better at running the world? Strider has just jumped the shark which will do much damage to his movie sales in the future. People do not forget or forgive what Hollyweird and their allies are doing to this country most people will not watch their leftist message at the theaters anymore and the writer’s strike has yet to affect those of us that actually work for a living.

    McGovern just needs to go to an old folks home before he destroys any positive legacy he has left. The ACLU rise up again to show they are a nest of traitorous vipers not seen since the Cooperheads trying to overthrow President Lincoln during the American Civil War. Bush has done much to betray his base, but besides failing to protect this nation under Article IV Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution I can think of no other crime he could be charged with. You know the moonbats will never use that one.

  18. #210569
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, lgm said:

    The President should not be impeached for official acts that are legal, no matter how wrong those may be. Replacing US attorneys for purely political reasons is bad but not illegal. Only actual violations of laws count.

    Torture is illegal. If Bush ordered someone to be tortured, that was a crime for which he could be impeached. Moreover, it is a crime far worse than Bill Clinton’s fib under oath because (i) someone actually got hurt, (ii) it brought far more shame on the US.

  19. #210571
    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:58 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    McGovern’s clock has been spinning in reverse for many years. Another charter member of the pantheon of liberal moonbattery, McGovern quacks and the faithful followers bleat their response of approval. And we’re all left to muck up after them.

  20. #210577
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, Armigerous said:

    Clearly geriatric senility has not been kind to George McGovern….if he wants to get down on his defeatist knees and worship at the altar of ‘world opinion’,well that’s just freedom of religion…but he invokes the same tired old memes….vague general references to violations of the Constitution and that old favorite ‘international law’, and as yet undescribed ‘lies’….the usual melange of donkey shit mixed with wishful thinking…”a tale told by an idiot…full of sound and fury,signifying nothing”

  21. #210580
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:10 pm, brooklyn red said:

    I will accept the impeachment of the President when the appropriate members of Congress are tried for treason. (Hint one has a death penalty.)Fair is fair.

    They cry impeachment, I dare call it treason. Yup, the big T, giving aid & comfort… and there is no statute of limitations here. Hey let’s enforce all of our laws. What do you say lgm, are we a nation of laws or not?

  22. #210581
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, RetFireman said:

    VIGGO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank goodness i already have “the Lord Of The Rings” both regular and extended versions already. unfortunately, I was going to go out and buy a new HDTV and Blue Ray HD DVD player this week, which means I need to get certain items again, which means I now can’t get THAT movie, which was going to be one of my first ones. That B****rd!!!!

    And now Kookcinich is out of the race, meaning he will have nothing but time to committ to his little trip down Loony Tunes Lane…

    Boy, I tell ya…I think I will enjoy burying myself in the movies the next few days and just not watching or listening to these idiots for awhile. They really just start to wear a person down. It gets to where you can’t figure out how anyone can be so stupid and still remember how to walk and talk.

    If breathing wasn’t an involuntary reflex action caused by the lower brain stem, these peope would just plain forget to do it. Honestly.

    And no, I am not affording this new big screen HDTV and Blue Ray because I went on welfare recently…although that would have been easier…some of us had to work, suffer and save to get our toys.

  23. #210596
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, garyt said:

    LGM I believe listening to rap music is torture. Should we make rap music illegal? Someone else’s torture is not the same as someone elses. If you feel strongly about Guantanamo then I suggest we release all the prisioners in your hometown? Would any liberal welcome the prisioners in their town?

  24. #210599
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:41 pm, DougT said:

    I really don’t have problem with actors supporting a candidate and speaking out politically. They only have power insofar as it’s granted by the sports and entertainment consuming cattle…er…masses…people…voters…whoever…sheesh.

    But for a guy that seemed fairly together and intelligent and thoughtful, well, supporting DK just doesn’t register with me.

    SHoward (#13), I agree that depending on who is making the decisions, they’ll be popular or unpopular accordingly.

    And in your comment (#15), my daughter and I were, coincidentally, building a solar powered/PEM cell model car (she’s 13) while my 10 year old son looked on. About midway through, they started bombarding me with questions about the viability of the model.

    My daughter started planning her experiment to compare the energy required to catalyse the water into component gases to the energy output by their recombination. (I wish someone in Washington would do this calculation with ethanol.)

    My son asked me what happens when there’s a drought (Would we ration it? Or would the price go way up?) or a deep freeze (”This is a cold reaction, Dad, so wouldn’t your fuel cell clog with ice?”)

    They’re kids and they recognize the basic challenges and question the assumptions. Maybe we should send these kits out to the SAG.

  25. #210605
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, dominigan said:

    On January 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, lgm said

    Wow, that strawman didn’t have a chance, did it!

  26. #210606
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:49 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    McGovern’s still alive?

  27. #210610
    On January 6th, 2008 at 7:52 pm, vsatt said:

    NOOOOOOOOOO!

    I always thought VM was such a hottie! Now he is forever ruined in my eyes. I’ve pretty much resigned myself that Hollywood actors will support democrats, but Kucinich???? Have you no shame, man?

    Thanks MM for blowing the fantasy to hell and back.

  28. #210619
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, SHoward said:

    DougT, I also agree that actors are people too. (Most of them, anyway.) They do have as much right to political speech as we do. The problem I was outlining is that they can make things in fiction always work out good if they want, but not so in the real world.

    I’m also glad that others realize that sometimes a transgression will be cast in a differentl light depending on who is doing the transgressing. (Scooter Libby’s perjury vs. Bill Clinton’s purjury.)

    I’m happy you have kids interested in more than pop stars, too. I want to state for the record that I am not at all against experimentation and innovation. I was pointing out that for both technical and logistical reasons we are a long way from inventing an all-clean-energy future. Even Ethanol poses more of a challenge than the green-people seem to realize. (My company produced it’s first Flex Fuel Vehicle in 2007.) Actors and lefists alike tend not to understand this when they pontificate about clean energy, because they do it all the time. On screen.

  29. #210629
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:09 pm, jegjr said:

    Hey Viggo, you’re short!

    OK, so I’ve resorted to name-calling.

  30. #210646
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, Speakup said:

    George McGovern, bobble headed loon in the 60s and a little looser bobble headed loon now.

    The grandfather of all moonbats, George McGovern

    Boy-howdy, modern moonbattery owes much to this closet Marxist, he wrote they’re playbook, designed the victim card, the hate card and the race card, jokers wild all.

    His only problem? An America that wasn’t (at the time) going for his pre Hugo rap, he took one state and he’s been revered as a hero by the left ever since, go figure.

    Got failure? No? Add liberals.

  31. #210652
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:19 pm, Paul said:

    Unfortunately lefties are so dysfunctional that they’ve come to believe their own propaganda.

    I’m for an impeachment proceeding. The oft repeated charges would be shredded and drained of their propaganda value.

  32. #210654
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:19 pm, DesertLover said:

    The last Hollywood celebs that had any influence on my thinking were Ronald Reagan and John Wayne … most of the “stars” in today’s entertainment industry have never had to deal with real life on a day-to-day basis … working a 40 hour week to support a family … worrying about the gasoline costs to get to that job … dealing with feeding and clothing their family … having to truly budget and manage their income like the rest of us do every day …

    They contract to make a movie or TV program and when it is done they may not “work” again for months … unlike the everyday citizen who is lucky to get his couple of weeks of vacation to rest and recuperate …

    Until they come down from their ivory towers and peel away the layers of insulation between their lifestyles and the lifestyles of the rest of the world their words are not even worth the time it takes to hear them …

  33. #210692
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:34 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Can anybody tell me – PLEASE – what lgm adds to this blog?

    Ummmm – troll – Clinton authorized a strike on Iraq. Why? The blue dress was so big he needed a distraction. Lied to a grand jury! Oh, it was just a little lie so it is okay. Oh, holy carp. You guys drink some funny water over in the left coast.

  34. #210705
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, ex-expat said:

    There is an artcile in this week’s Economist, “The 40 Year Itch’, which offers an explanantion on why in the sense of a bigger picture, George McGovern can get his stuff on the front page of today’s WaPo ‘Opinion’ section. And yes I groaned when I unfolded the paper this morning.

  35. #210733
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Can anybody tell me – PLEASE – what lgm adds to this blog?

    Well, it reminds us of what the other side is really like. And why we would never want to go there.

  36. #210739
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:56 pm, DesertLover said:

    Our resident liberals are a constant reminder of why we have to avoid giving in to the “Dark Side of the Force” …

  37. #210744
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Soap box, lgm adds a realistic view of what we are up against… lgm is a kick in the chest by your teacher… lgm is who owns your butt if you lose… lgm is the future.

    Are you angry yet?

  38. #210748
    On January 6th, 2008 at 8:59 pm, greenfairie said:

    With the elections, impeachment ain’t gonna happen. A protracted series of witch hunt hearings for an impeachment the majority of the public doesn’t want for an outgoing, lame duck president in his last 11 months of office will only guarantee the GOP wins back the legislative and retains the executive branches.

    Go ahead, moonbats, make my day.

  39. #210754
    On January 6th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, SHoward said:

    “lgm is who owns your butt if you lose”

    “lgm is the future”

    Thanks, Brooklyn, now I’m going to have nightmares all week.

  40. #210767
    On January 6th, 2008 at 9:05 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Well Howard, you could just say no.

  41. #210784
    On January 6th, 2008 at 9:09 pm, dan708 said:

    I was as shocked as everyone else to see Viggo supporting a Dem, but maybe we shouldn’t be. He works in Hollyweird and spent part of his youth in New Yawk City.
    I’m consoling myself by thinking that Aragorn is unlikely to appear in the forthcoming Hobbit films. But I’ve been wrong before.

  42. #210809
    On January 6th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, brooklyn red said:

    cuse me, do yall think bin landen gives a ratsass bout hobbit films?

  43. #210974
    On January 7th, 2008 at 12:23 am, mattymatt10 said:

    Why just tonight I watched a wreck of a film starring Viggo Mortensen called “Eastern Promises.” Said film featured scenes of ol’ Viggo making out with what appeared to be a 12-13 year old, raping a drugged-out prostitute and fighting and killing two assassins completely nude, with his bits-n-pieces hanging out for all the world to see.

    You’ll have to forgive me if I find suspect his judgement of what is appropriate or not.

  44. #210999
    On January 7th, 2008 at 2:17 am, Papa Louie said:

    #37 greenfairie, you nailed it.

    If the Dems want to take advice from a loser like McGovern, go for it! An impeachment circus would endear you to the far left, but would turn off middle America and cost you the presidency and your majority in Congress. (I’ll let you Dems in on a little secret: The far left impeachment nuts are not going to vote Republican even if you fail to impeach Bush or fail to bring the troops home from Iraq.) Hush, don’t let the secret out.

  45. #211002
    On January 7th, 2008 at 2:32 am, Mary Ann said:

    #26 vsatt

    Viggo who? There is Aragorn…only Aragorn.

  46. #211008
    On January 7th, 2008 at 3:16 am, RetFireman said:

    Can anybody tell me – PLEASE – what lgm adds to this blog?

    Absolutely nothing. Not even comedy relief. I personally wasn’t aware that embarrassing the country was an impeachable offense, but if that is the case, then i really don’t understand why they got all upset about billy Bob getting imprached. After all, if he was to go back and actually read what a laughing stock Clinton made this country back then, I would definately say we were pretty well embarrassed a great deal more than placing some panties on some guys heads, making them drink beer, having them touch women, walk around naked and do other things that equals a normal Rush Week at any major American University. And this whole “Waterboarding” thing that the Left is trying to turn into the equivalent of the Iron Maiden, the Rack, Strappado, Ducking Stool or any number of other Medieval Torture Devices, or anything like what was found in Saddam’s torture rooms, where finger nails were pukked slowly out, electricity was used on verious places, rubber hoses on feet, knees turned to jellow etc., etc.,…well since you guys have been so successful so far in the last few years of telling lies, misleading the public, telling partial truths and half truths over and over and over again until people in this country begin to believe it as the actual facts, and just by mentioning it, whther it is true or not, you have learned is enough to get our men and women lilled in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere…that really is all you need anyway and it doesn’t matter to you anyway, what the truth is.

    But you know what? The thing that drives you guys absolutely bat guano crazy, is when it comes right down to it, is that the vast majority of people in this country do not care what it takes to get the information from these murderous thugs if it means that it will prevent another 9-11 from happeneing.

    While you people are insane enough to let a few million people die by letting a nuclear bomb explode so that our “image” is not stained in waterboarding or whatever it takes to find out where a potential bomb may be planted, the rest of us will have the CIA, FBI or a Private in the Marines do whatever it takes to little Mohammed al-Mosab Ahmedabkab Ablablab even if it means hanging him by his itty little testicle and breaking his knee caps in order to find that bomb, save New york, L.A. or Indianapolis and to Hell with the title of torture.

    It isn’t that we are heartless. It is that we have no feelings for those that would murder humans on such a large scale without a second thought all for the backwards notion of a perverted sexual fantasy.

  47. #211029
    On January 7th, 2008 at 5:30 am, graysonret said:

    The problem with pop stars and movie stars is that people worship them, almost as gods and goddesses. They live vicariously through them. That’s why American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, etc., continue to be popular shows. All of this is promoted by the msm. Whatever opinion they have, becomes “gospel truth” to some people. They become obsessed with them. Now, in reality, who cares what Viggo says? His opinion is no more important than we people here. Yet, some people let these “stars” control their lives. I could probably make a fortune setting up “movie star” temples, so people could come and worship, leaving donations in a box. LOL. Working in a D.C. shelter(medical), I’ve met and worked with Martin Sheen twice (movie and play), had a one-on-one coffee talk with Katey Sagal, Met Cher, Cicely Tyson and numerous congressmen/senators. They are human just like us. No different.

  48. #211110
    On January 7th, 2008 at 9:47 am, LarryD said:

    Wagner’s politics were obnoxious too. Now days no one cares. Lord of the Rings will outlive Mortensen’s career.

    Technically, Impeachment being a political process, Congress can Impeach any officer of the US government for any reason both houses can agree on. Practically, they take into account their constituents, because they want to be re-elected, or at least be succeeded by someone in their own party.

    The Democrats don’t really want that called attention to, lest there be a drumbeat for the Impeachment of certain Justices. And with campaign season upon us, and Congress’s approval rating lower than Bush’s, they really don’t want this. And after the election’s over, Bush will have little more than two months left in office, which makes impeachment pretty moot.

    Also there’s the little matter of the Democrats having won nominal control of Congress by having replaced liberal Republicans with conservative Democrats.

  49. #211121
    On January 7th, 2008 at 9:57 am, lgm said:

    garyt said (#22):

    LGM I believe listening to rap music is torture. Should we make rap music illegal?

    People have died at the hands of US interrogators, and US courts have held that waterboarding is torture.

    SHoward said (#27):

    I’m also glad that others realize that sometimes a transgression will be cast in a different light depending on who is doing the transgressing. (Scooter Libby’s perjury vs. Bill Clinton’s purjury.)

    What’s different is the severity of the crime. Clinton lied about something personal unrelated to the subject of the investigation. Libby lied in order to obstruct an investigation of a national security breach.

    RetFireman said (#45):

    I personally wasn’t aware that embarrassing the country was an impeachable offense,

    Lgm wrote that ordering torture is an impeachable offense. Embarrassing the country (shaming, actually) was an unimpeachable side effect. If you would learn to read, you would embarrass yourself less.

  50. #211136
    On January 7th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Hannibal said:

    Obviously, some of you are disturbed by Viggo’s support for Little Denny K. but there is some good news here. The star of “Hidalgo”, “the horse formerly known as KT”, has issued a formal endorsement of fellow Texan Ron Paul. It all balances out in the end.

  51. #211155
    On January 7th, 2008 at 10:24 am, SHoward said:

    Let me get this straight lgm: if I were to kill someone over a sexual affair, it would not be as bad of a murder as if I killed someone over, say, the police pursuing a friend of mine.

    Since when was a crime less severe due to it’s motivation?

    Perhaps you should stop embarrassing yourself.

  52. #211178
    On January 7th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Army said:

    Curious…Congress and the Senate was made up of what, 95% Tort lawyers and Fred Thompson?

    Yet not one, not a single Congressman lawyer or Senator lawyer, has been able to bring a viable legal case for impeachment to any level of court system in the entire USA. They scream “Lies!”, they cry “Gitmo!”, they gnash teeth loudly over “Wire-taps!”, they consult Rosie-O’s engineering degree about “Structural steel!”, yet NONE (LGM, that means zero, or a negative) have brought an actual lawsuit against President Bush.

    Why do you suppose that is, hmmmm……?

    Could it be? Nah! But wait..what about? Nooooooo. Then again, though may be hard for them to believe……President Bush has not broken any US law, or lied to anyone?

    I know, I know. “Gasp” you say. Life still goes on regardless, and so does the winning ways of the war against islamic terrorism.

    God bless America…dammit!

  53. #211192
    On January 7th, 2008 at 10:53 am, SHoward said:

    BTW, lgm, what would you say if Boooosh had an affair with an intern half his age, lied to us on camera (and in a bold, in your face way) and then lied under oath. Oh, yeah, let’s add in the subornig of perjury where he convinces the intern to lie under oath to protect him. Would Boooosh be innocent in your eyes because it was all about sex?

    Let’s not forget that he would have done this while the sitting President of the United States, and is supposed to be above this sort of thing. And let’s pretend Boooosh were a board certified attorney, who is suppoosed to understand the seriousness of any kind of perjury.

    Now give us your answer, lgm. Go ahead, embarrass yourself some more.

  54. #211216
    On January 7th, 2008 at 11:20 am, max said:

    What I’d really love to see is all the radicals fems come out calling for Boooosh’s grapes in a jar if he ever got caught with an intern….

    Curiously though, they were quiet as library mice when Billy Jeff was caught fondlin’ in the Oval…

  55. #211219
    On January 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am, SHoward said:

    Hey Max, so was lgm.

  56. #211299
    On January 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, a crapweasel said:

    George McGovern’s Bucket List

    -Endorse Hillary
    -Try to seem relevant
    -Applesauce
    -Depends
    -Eggs
    -Milk
    -Honey
    -…

  57. #211302
    On January 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, lgm said:

    SHoward said:

    BTW, lgm, what would you say if Boooosh had an affair with an intern half his age, lied to us on camera (and in a bold, in your face way) and then lied under oath.

    I would say it’s payback time.

    We we both know this is unlikely. The Bush shortcomings aren’t personal in this way, they involve the country and the world.

  58. #211306
    On January 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    Damn…LOTR was a great trilogy.

  59. #211320
    On January 7th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, Chuck said:

    This is their last chance for revenge, folks. If President Bush gets out of office without an impeachment these people will completely melt down. The’ve been trying for over 7 years just to get even for Beelzebubba.

  60. #211348
    On January 7th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, SHoward said:

    There you have it folks. The dems attacking Boooosh has little to do with legal violations and everything to do with the fact that they are still mad about Clinton’s impeachment.

    If Boooosh did what I theorized earlier, he should be impeached for breaking the law. NOT because someone has an axe to grind.

    lgm is right — going after Boooosh is about payback, not right vs. wrong.

    Thanks, buddy. You did all the work for me.

  61. #211448
    On January 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, max said:

    SHoward said:
    Hey Max, so was lgm.

    SHoward… That’s a real shocka…

  62. #211470
    On January 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, SHoward said:

    Yeah, max, I was in a stunned state of disbelief, myself.
    /sarc off

    Of course, if you pay careful attention to lgm’s posts in this thread, it’s only in-character.

  63. #211526
    On January 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Army said:

    LGM, I read your quicky Bio, and I noticed your intense frustration with the liberal designed K-12 math studies. We Conservatives have battled the union led NEA for many many years, over just these same curriculum. And it isn’t just in Math, but History, Social Studies, even Physical Education. Has your local kiddie soccer team ever actually won a game with a higher scoring percentage than their opponents? Or did they not even keep score, so as to save their delicate little psyches from the rampages of life in general?

    Easy question here, take your time to answer (think about it): If liberals cannot add 2+2 without visual aids and fuzzy “feel good” results……

    ….how can they possibly grasp local and world politics?

  64. #212179
    On January 8th, 2008 at 3:21 am, RetFireman said:

    Lgm wrote that ordering torture is an impeachable offense. Embarrassing the country (shaming, actually) was an unimpeachable side effect. If you would learn to read, you would embarrass yourself less.

    Oh the embarrassment..the horror of my pure unadulterated embarrassment. How ever will I show my face again.

    What an absolute tool…you haven’t a clue what you are talking about, and the more you post to try and dig yourself out of the hole you made, the worse you make it.

  65. #212188
    On January 8th, 2008 at 4:21 am, RetFireman said:

    Oh, and for the record, troll boy, why don’t you head down to the book store at that hogh school you go to and pick up a thesaurus and look up “shame” and “embarassment”

    Maybe then you would not be so filled with wither on or both when you attempt to flame someoone.

    Usually…when someone attempts to flame someone by trying to appear more intelligent than their foe, they do so with something they actually know something about….not with two words that mean the same thing.

    Moron.

  66. #212854
    On January 8th, 2008 at 6:15 pm, ammo john said:

    After being stationed near SLC for 3 years, I was hoping I’d never have to hear about Rocky again. Gee, thanks, Michelle. LOL

    I like when Hannity calls him a part-time Mayor and full-time protestor.

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