Buh-bye to you as well.

Yasel Abdel Said, who murdered his two daughters as part of an honor murder, has been revealed by a relative to have abused them physically even before (H/T: Michelle Malkin):…

JUST

IGNORE

HIM,

and ended up feeding a troll.

(*sigh*) Mea culpa.

Further discussion would be worse than pointless, because:

135 will never – never – get it right…180-degree erroneous worldview, after all;

135 will only think of another insult to hurl at his/her interlocutor;

135 will be happy discussing endless theoretical fine points, and infinitely splitting hairs, and feeling smugly superior and vastly more intellignet than the hoi poilloi troglodytes; even as his/her house is being blown up, and/or his/her throat is being slit by Muslim jihadists.

To be blunt, 135 just does not get it; and, sadly, most likely never will, until it is way too late.

135: you can have the last word (my kids used to play that game when they were ~ 8 or 10; they’ve since grown up).
I’m outta here, as George Costanza said.

Buh-bye.

“granite, your last post goes a long ways toward proving my point. I’m pretty certain that you don’t have the slightest idea regarding what DougT is actually saying. Go back and read his pots very, very slowly (with a dictionary next to your keyboard) and you might begin to understand where he’s coming from.”

Just unbelievable.
If one were to comment about particular posts, one would have to describe post #133 as mind-bogglingly (if that can be an adverb) arrogant…and unjustifiably so.

However, if Muslims are reluctant to reform or to deny passages in the Quran, they must avoid a dubious approach to uninformed Westerners: they must never soft—sell or whitewash domestic violence and other violence in the origins and core of their religion, some of which, like jihad, Muhammad himself engaged in—not in the periphery of their religion, as Hathout and Ahmed Ali inaccurately assert or imply. An agenda to make Islam—flaws and all—seem acceptable to Westerners is wrong.

And Muslims should not be surprised if Christians challenge the claim that Islam and the Quran complete and fulfill Christianity and the New Testament. Christians are allowed to ask, without undergoing the accusation of being ‘misguided, misinformed or malevolent’ (Hathout’s words), whether God would send down a revelation that promotes domestic violence in a later sacred text, when their own New Testament rightly and justly omits this.

Therefore, hitting or beating wives in Sura 4:34 is a gigantic social and cultural step backwards and challenges whether God through Gabriel brought down the Quran in the first place so late in history, after the love of God was shown through Christ. He never said that husbands should hit their wives, and neither did the New Testament authors.

“Great stuff DougT…probably the most intelligent posts on this very complicated topic I’ve seen on this site. I do think that you’re over the heads of some of those you’re dialoguing with however. Many here are not accustomed to big boy discussions where issues aren’t assumed to be black and white and simplistic, but rather various shades of gray and complicated.”

Hey, everybody, it looks like Mr.(Ms.?) Smart is scolding us knuckle-draggers!

At least most of us seem to understand that, if we try to be as smart as him(her?), instead of defending ourselves, we’ll all be dead.

But, why should that worry an uebersmart(sorry, can’t do umlauts) person?

Just be sure you don’t get dizzy when you look down at us from way up there, Mr.(Ms.?) Smart.

Once again I believe we need an “Islamic Exclusion Act” even if we have amend our Constitution to do it.

We also need exclude from the USA any citizens of any country who give sanctuary to their nationals who commit serious, heinous crimes in the USA then scamper back home.

I betchya this Said fellow deeply planned this killing; he got as much money together as he could, wired most if (structured transactions to evade Currency Transaction Reporting requieme to Egypt, arranged for a flight to Egypt ,killed his daughters then got a cab to the airport and as I type this he’s probably back home in Egypt with enough money not to have to worry about food and shelter for quite a few years.

Should Said be found in Egypt the only way they’ll give him up is if Congress gets involved and puts a hold on a big “aid” package for Egypt – something I believe the GW Bush Administration would fight tooth and claw.

Also keep in mind the corrupting influence of Islamic oil-money!

Anyone care to hazard a guess as to how many TRILLIONS of dollars have been poured into the Islamic oil-patch?
We do know what the Iraquis did with *their* slice of that pie – arms, arms and more arms (largely courtesy of the Russians).

My take on Islam is it is the synthesis of the very worst barbarism that you can find of Jewish and Christian Tradition.

However do take a peek at Matthew Chapter 10:

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Like it or not the core logic of the Shariah comes straight from Deuteronomy and Leviticus.

The cruel twist of the Shariah though is it is static; it it believed not be be subject to change by humans.

Right there that is compelling evidence that Islam *as an ideology* is totally incompatible with ours.
We make our laws largly by consensus; the Islamics made their by consulting the Koran and the Ahadiths.
The Buhkari Hadith collection which is considered to be highly authoratative is 9 volumes in English and 18 in Arabic.
To understand Islam you must be aware of and understand the Hadiths and the Sunna (tradition) of Mohammed.

Yeah this is rambling …

And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee…
And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee…

I betcha Mrs. Said views Mr. Said as that ‘right eye’ and that ‘right hand’ right about now.

The Christian attitude towards a family member that has gone off of the tracks is shaped considerably by the Parable of the Prodigal Son. But part of the Sermon on the Mount also applies by analogy

Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32)

Matthew 5:29-30 “And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. “